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#51 chessmaster1989
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It has not won yet so why make a thread about it. Nor was it a flop.

of course it was a flop

95 MC is not a flop...

an 8 when it was hyped a 9 is a flop. A flop on GS/SW does not equal a bad game

Your definition of a flop is nonsense. Why would the score on one site be more important than an aggregate?

because this is system wars, and that is a flop in system wars. But once again, flop does not mean it's a bad game

That's a bad excuse. So you use a generally worse metric simply for the reason that others do as well?

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#52  Edited By blamix99
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only fanboys think it's a flop, but look what it did to GTAV and the others

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#53 foxhound_fox
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@chessmaster1989 said:

Your definition of a flop is nonsense. Why would the score on one site be more important than an aggregate?

Because an aggregate is objectively flawed (especally when they "weight" different opinions over others) and this is the Gamespot System Wars metagame, either one accepts it and has some fun, or they don't and move over to the Metacritic forums.

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#54 lostrib
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@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

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@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

It has not won yet so why make a thread about it. Nor was it a flop.

of course it was a flop

95 MC is not a flop...

an 8 when it was hyped a 9 is a flop. A flop on GS/SW does not equal a bad game

Your definition of a flop is nonsense. Why would the score on one site be more important than an aggregate?

because this is system wars, and that is a flop in system wars. But once again, flop does not mean it's a bad game

That's a bad excuse. So you use a generally worse metric simply for the reason that others do as well?

Only on system wars. Flop is simply a game that didn't meet the hype set forth by SW based on GS score. And not meeting hype does not make it a bad game. It's really not a difficult concept

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#55 chessmaster1989
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@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

It has not won yet so why make a thread about it. Nor was it a flop.

of course it was a flop

95 MC is not a flop...

an 8 when it was hyped a 9 is a flop. A flop on GS/SW does not equal a bad game

Your definition of a flop is nonsense. Why would the score on one site be more important than an aggregate?

because this is system wars, and that is a flop in system wars. But once again, flop does not mean it's a bad game

That's a bad excuse. So you use a generally worse metric simply for the reason that others do as well?

Only on system wars. Flop is simply a game that didn't meet the hype set forth by SW based on GS score. And not meeting hype does not make it a bad game. It's really not a difficult concept

So then you adopt a meaningless metric? Why?

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#56 lostrib
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@chessmaster1989 said:

@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

It has not won yet so why make a thread about it. Nor was it a flop.

of course it was a flop

95 MC is not a flop...

an 8 when it was hyped a 9 is a flop. A flop on GS/SW does not equal a bad game

Your definition of a flop is nonsense. Why would the score on one site be more important than an aggregate?

because this is system wars, and that is a flop in system wars. But once again, flop does not mean it's a bad game

That's a bad excuse. So you use a generally worse metric simply for the reason that others do as well?

Only on system wars. Flop is simply a game that didn't meet the hype set forth by SW based on GS score. And not meeting hype does not make it a bad game. It's really not a difficult concept

So then you adopt a meaningless metric? Why?

because this is the system wars forums...this is really not that complicated

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#57 chessmaster1989
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@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

It has not won yet so why make a thread about it. Nor was it a flop.

of course it was a flop

95 MC is not a flop...

an 8 when it was hyped a 9 is a flop. A flop on GS/SW does not equal a bad game

Your definition of a flop is nonsense. Why would the score on one site be more important than an aggregate?

because this is system wars, and that is a flop in system wars. But once again, flop does not mean it's a bad game

That's a bad excuse. So you use a generally worse metric simply for the reason that others do as well?

Only on system wars. Flop is simply a game that didn't meet the hype set forth by SW based on GS score. And not meeting hype does not make it a bad game. It's really not a difficult concept

So then you adopt a meaningless metric? Why?

because this is the system wars forums...this is really not that complicated

Is it being SW also why you are unable to provide a coherent response?

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#58  Edited By casharmy
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The game flopped...

but the stupidity of lemmings is mind blowing, we know that score that Tom gave. But we also konw that it is highly likely to be better than any other game released on any plantform this year and perhaps the generation.

With that said lemming acting all happy because Tom put down an "8.0" regardless of the fact that nothing they have is even close to the qulaity or critical acclaim of this game shows how patheric how far away from being gamers they really are.

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#59  Edited By Daious
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@Mkavanaugh77 said:

Good game but its no GTA5

I never thought TLOU would be a game of the year contender with its score (although its one reviewer) but the TLOU did beat out GTA5 in the PS3 game of the year

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#60  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@casharmy said:

The game flopped...

but the stupidity of lemmings is mind blowing, we know that score that Tom gave. But we also konw that it is highly likely to be better than any other game released on any plantform this year and perhaps the generation.

With that said lemming acting all happy because Tom put down an "8.0" regardless of the fact that nothing they have is even close to the qulaity or critical acclaim of this game shows how patheric how far away from being gamers they really are.

The game is probably going to be nominated, but it won't win. The real battle will be between that handheld zelda game, Bioshock Infinite,GTAV,Super Mario 3D world and any other game they nominate.

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#61 lostrib
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@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

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@chessmaster1989 said:

It has not won yet so why make a thread about it. Nor was it a flop.

of course it was a flop

95 MC is not a flop...

an 8 when it was hyped a 9 is a flop. A flop on GS/SW does not equal a bad game

Your definition of a flop is nonsense. Why would the score on one site be more important than an aggregate?

because this is system wars, and that is a flop in system wars. But once again, flop does not mean it's a bad game

That's a bad excuse. So you use a generally worse metric simply for the reason that others do as well?

Only on system wars. Flop is simply a game that didn't meet the hype set forth by SW based on GS score. And not meeting hype does not make it a bad game. It's really not a difficult concept

So then you adopt a meaningless metric? Why?

because this is the system wars forums...this is really not that complicated

Is it being SW also why you are unable to provide a coherent response?

response to what? It's not complicated. Game didn't meet hype score, thus it flopped. But that doesn't make it a bad game.

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#62  Edited By chessmaster1989
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@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

It has not won yet so why make a thread about it. Nor was it a flop.

of course it was a flop

95 MC is not a flop...

an 8 when it was hyped a 9 is a flop. A flop on GS/SW does not equal a bad game

Your definition of a flop is nonsense. Why would the score on one site be more important than an aggregate?

because this is system wars, and that is a flop in system wars. But once again, flop does not mean it's a bad game

That's a bad excuse. So you use a generally worse metric simply for the reason that others do as well?

Only on system wars. Flop is simply a game that didn't meet the hype set forth by SW based on GS score. And not meeting hype does not make it a bad game. It's really not a difficult concept

So then you adopt a meaningless metric? Why?

because this is the system wars forums...this is really not that complicated

Is it being SW also why you are unable to provide a coherent response?

response to what? It's not complicated. Game didn't meet hype score, thus it flopped. But that doesn't make it a bad game.

You said the game was hyped to a 9. It got a 9.5. Are you unable to do math in addition to being unable to argue coherently?

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#63  Edited By Bazooka_4ME
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if TLOU does win GOTY, there will be chaos.... whats worse is Beyond Two Souls winning GOTY...lol

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#64  Edited By foxhound_fox
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@Bazooka_4ME said:

if TLOU does win GOTY, there will be chaos.... whats worse is Beyond Two Souls winning GOTY...lol

The funny thing is, BTS has a better chance at overall GOTY than TLOU. The only less-than-9 game that really ever took a GOTY award was Everquest, and that was not only when they have the 100 point system, but two GOTY's in a single year (one console and one PC).

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#65 chessmaster1989
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@Bazooka_4ME said:

if TLOU does win GOTY, there will be chaos.... whats worse is Beyond Two Souls winning GOTY...lol

The funny thing is, BTS has a better chance at overall GOTY than TLOU. The only less-than-9 game that really ever took a GOTY award was Everquest, and that was not only when they have the 100 point system, but two GOTY's in a single year (one console and one PC).

Ex-ante I might have agreed with this, but it seems unlikely that BTS has a better chance when it wasn't even nominated for Best PS3 game.

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The only game that had a chance to beat it was GTA5 (which was amazing). The best version of GTA5 is on PS3. TLOU beat it for GOTY. TLOU GOTY.

If GTA5 online wasn't gimped it would have a chance but honestly it's TLOU

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@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

It has not won yet so why make a thread about it. Nor was it a flop.

of course it was a flop

95 MC is not a flop...

an 8 when it was hyped a 9 is a flop. A flop on GS/SW does not equal a bad game

Your definition of a flop is nonsense. Why would the score on one site be more important than an aggregate?

because this is system wars, and that is a flop in system wars. But once again, flop does not mean it's a bad game

That's a bad excuse. So you use a generally worse metric simply for the reason that others do as well?

Only on system wars. Flop is simply a game that didn't meet the hype set forth by SW based on GS score. And not meeting hype does not make it a bad game. It's really not a difficult concept

So then you adopt a meaningless metric? Why?

because this is the system wars forums...this is really not that complicated

Is it being SW also why you are unable to provide a coherent response?

response to what? It's not complicated. Game didn't meet hype score, thus it flopped. But that doesn't make it a bad game.

You said the game was hyped to a 9. It got a 9.5. Are you unable to do math in addition to being unable to argue coherently?

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It got hyped 9 here at GS. It got scored 8 here at GS. It seems you failed to see that. That's cool and all it has a 9.5 or whatever at MC, but this isn't MC. Really simple concept.

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I lol hard looking at Mario ....lololol

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#69  Edited By deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@lostrib said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

It has not won yet so why make a thread about it. Nor was it a flop.

of course it was a flop

95 MC is not a flop...

an 8 when it was hyped a 9 is a flop. A flop on GS/SW does not equal a bad game

Your definition of a flop is nonsense. Why would the score on one site be more important than an aggregate?

28k posts and you are NOW debating the SW rules? leave if you don't like the rules.

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#70 GhoX
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So... the best exclusive on PS3 this year is a flop?

That's why I'm sticking to the earlier titles.

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#73  Edited By tormentos
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@navyguy21 said:

No way TLOU wins GOTY.

I dont get the logic of "if it beat GTA5 on PS3, it must be a better game"

That logic is flawed on so many levels. You dont know the methods they used to determine that. It could be most hyped/played game on that platform for all we know, in which TLOU would win.

Doesnt mean it is better than GTA5 as a whole or on both platforms.

My guess would be either AC4 or GTA5.

TLOU is no MGS4

Most hyped games don't win goty if they fail,this is the first time i see an 8 game beating other 9 scored games,including GTA5,most played no chance in hell GTA5 came after the last of US and more people have play GTA5 than TLOU on PS3 this is a fact baked by sales.

It would be an even bigger own for gamespot is GTA5 beat TLOU for GOTY,since that game is only on PS3 and 360 and already on PS3 it loss against TLOU,oh an GTA5 loss on 360 vs AC4 so basically GTA5 is out of the question for GOTY over all.


Hell AC4 was also beat by TLOU on PS3,so i don't see any of the 2 beating TLOU,Mario on wii u has a chance so does Zelda on 3ds.

@MBirdy88 said:

So let me get this straight.... the msot pointless award ever invented (GOTY) ... means that a 10 hour corridor zombie shooter.... will be better than any game on any system?

don't mind if I just laugh at the patheticness of using GOTY as ammunition. it will sit on peoples shelves collecting dust only to probably be played 1 or 2 more times for "the hell of it" later.... meanwhile people put hundreds of hours into many games that offer more.

and no, not because of time.... but because well.... they arn't just a corridor movie wannabe game... they are actual games.... with either competitive nature or are compelling enough to be played for 100s or 1000s of hours.

So what game should win in your eyes.?

GTA5.? Another sandbox real life wannabe game.?

AC4? Another sanbox middle age,now Caribbean pirate wannabe game.?

BF4? Another FPS of the ton one man army gun shooting movie like wannabe game?

Forza 5? Another racing game of the ton,real life wannabe game.?

You know what game won here last year for GOTY.?

It was Journey,it actually beat Halo 4 and several games for GOTY,that game i don't think last more than 2 hours,and is a PSN game.

Now please tell me who you think should win GOTY i am sure this will be good..lol

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an 8 when it was hyped a 9 is a flop. A flop on GS/SW does not equal a bad game

A score is representative of the quality of the game period,how many 5 games here have you see won GOTY because the score doesn't mean its bad..?

Yeah TLOU is basically the first 8 game to win PS3 GOTY here i think,and if it wins over all it would be the first,last year it was Journey which does has 9 here.

That 8 game is dropping 9 games like flies,not only it beat GTA5 and AC4,it also beat Ni NO Kuni which has 9 and Poppeteer which has 9 as well,oh and Beyond two souls also has 9.

MC Shea screwed up and gamespot is fixing it..

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#74  Edited By tormentos
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@super600 said:

@casharmy said:

The game flopped...

but the stupidity of lemmings is mind blowing, we know that score that Tom gave. But we also konw that it is highly likely to be better than any other game released on any plantform this year and perhaps the generation.

With that said lemming acting all happy because Tom put down an "8.0" regardless of the fact that nothing they have is even close to the qulaity or critical acclaim of this game shows how patheric how far away from being gamers they really are.

The game is probably going to be nominated, but it won't win. The real battle will be between that handheld zelda game, Bioshock Infinite,GTAV,Super Mario 3D world and any other game they nominate.

GTA5 already loss on PS3 and xbox 360,on PS3 vs TLOU and on 360 vs AC4 which also loss to TLOU on PS3...

So if any game Mario,Zelda or TLOU are the 3 i see with real possibilities.

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@chessmaster1989 said:

You said the game was hyped to a 9. It got a 9.5. Are you unable to do math in addition to being unable to argue coherently?

It got hyped 9 here at GS. It got scored 8 here at GS. It seems you failed to see that. That's cool and all it has a 9.5 or whatever at MC, but this isn't MC. Really simple concept.

And it should not even be nominated for GOTY,why because it has an 8 period score here are a measure for quality,is the reason why Ryse doesn't have a 10,or Killzone SF.

Games TLOU beat for Goty on PS3.

Ni No Kuni

Poppeteer

Beyond 2 Souls

GTA5

AC4

and i know there should be another multiplatform with a 9 on PS3.

So this 8 game beat all those 9 games,why in hell you even assign a score in the first place if you will put that 8 game to beat other higher rated games,the score MC Shea game was a reflection of the quality of the game,regardless of been call a flop,that is not the criteria MC shea use to review games,he actually score the game because for him quality wise the game was that an 8 and scores should reflect quality period.

TLOU should not even be nominated if not like the PS3 had a drought of quality games,this site say all the contrary it has several 9 games.

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#75  Edited By StrifeDelivery
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@tormentos said:

@StrifeDelivery said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

You said the game was hyped to a 9. It got a 9.5. Are you unable to do math in addition to being unable to argue coherently?

It got hyped 9 here at GS. It got scored 8 here at GS. It seems you failed to see that. That's cool and all it has a 9.5 or whatever at MC, but this isn't MC. Really simple concept.

And it should not even be nominated for GOTY,why because it has an 8 period score here are a measure for quality,is the reason why Ryse doesn't have a 10,or Killzone SF.

Games TLOU beat for Goty on PS3.

Ni No Kuni

Poppeteer

Beyond 2 Souls

GTA5

AC4

and i know there should be another multiplatform with a 9 on PS3.

So this 8 game beat all those 9 games,why in hell you even assign a score in the first place if you will put that 8 game to beat other higher rated games,the score MC Shea game was a reflection of the quality of the game,regardless of been call a flop,that is not the criteria MC shea use to review games,he actually score the game because for him quality wise the game was that an 8 and scores should reflect quality period.

TLOU should not even be nominated if not like the PS3 had a drought of quality games,this site say all the contrary it has several 9 games.

A flop is a flop, it is what it is. However, regarding GOTY choices, I believe that the game chosen is a group consensus. So sure Mcshea gave it an 8, maybe Carolyn would have given it a 10 and Kevin a 4. I don't know. Point is, reviews are done by one person but it seems like GOTY choices (and maybe I'm wrong) are group based.

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#76 StormyJoe
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@badnewsbarrage:

A flop is a flop.