The Facts Regarding 3DO and PS3

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#1 gromit007
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The important ones anyway...

"Despite a highly-promoted launch and a host of cutting-edge technologies, the system's high price ($699.95 USD at release) and an over-saturated console market prevented the 3DO from ever achieving any real market penetration."

"For a significant period of the products life cycle, 3DO's official stance on pricing was that the 3DO was not a video game console, it was a high-end audio-visual system and was priced accordingly, so no price adjustment was needed."

Take that with a grain of salt as its from Wikipedia. Striking parallels, though.

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#2 snakeofsolid
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but this logic fails, since sony has penetrated the industry, and has planted roots, many, but some of those are starting to loosen, the 3D0  was a new company and new attempt on their behalf, sony has already placed themselves on the map.
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#3 deathmasterk
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ps3 is DOOMED!!!

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#4 Ibacai
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Well, the PS3 offers more features and is less expensive. Then you add inflation into the mix and the whole comparison goes down the drain.
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#5 Chu-Fye
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Yes, I actually see a second 3DO
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#6 machitocaliente
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PS3 = 3DO IS THE 3 CURSE
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#7 whoisryanmack
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i still think it is the next 3DO. been thinking that for awhile now. great product, not the the right time.
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but this logic fails, since sony has penetrated the industry, and has planted roots, many, but some of those are starting to loosen, the 3D0 was a new company and new attempt on their behalf, sony has already placed themselves on the map.snakeofsolid
I agree...
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http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3145154
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#10 meischris39
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The important ones anyway...

"Despite a highly-promoted launch and a host of cutting-edge technologies, the system's high price ($699.95 USD at release) and an over-saturated console market prevented the 3DO from ever achieving any real market penetration."

"For a significant period of the products life cycle, 3DO's official stance on pricing was that the 3DO was not a video game console, it was a high-end audio-visual system and was priced accordingly, so no price adjustment was needed."

Take that with a grain of salt as its from Wikipedia. Striking parallels, though.

gromit007
You could also draw huge parallels between the 360 and the dreamcast, remember how that turned out.
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#11 whoisryanmack
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[QUOTE="gromit007"]

The important ones anyway...

"Despite a highly-promoted launch and a host of cutting-edge technologies, the system's high price ($699.95 USD at release) and an over-saturated console market prevented the 3DO from ever achieving any real market penetration."

"For a significant period of the products life cycle, 3DO's official stance on pricing was that the 3DO was not a video game console, it was a high-end audio-visual system and was priced accordingly, so no price adjustment was needed."

Take that with a grain of salt as its from Wikipedia. Striking parallels, though.

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You could also draw huge parallels between the 360 and the dreamcast, remember how that turned out.

that really is a good point. i dont see 360 devs dropping out tho, at least not in the somewhat forseeable future. you think this is happening?
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#12 gromit007
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but this logic fails, since sony has penetrated the industry, and has planted roots, many, but some of those are starting to loosen, the 3D0  was a new company and new attempt on their behalf, sony has already placed themselves on the map.snakeofsolid

By your reasoning, then; Sony has no chance as they have thrust the PS3 into a fertile market at a higher price-point than its competitors. One of those competitors (ironically) is itself. The PS2 sells very well still. Sony cannot win in this market with the PS3 going against the (cheaper) Wii, PS2, and 360.

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#13 S0DA_POPINSKI
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[QUOTE="gromit007"]

The important ones anyway...

"Despite a highly-promoted launch and a host of cutting-edge technologies, the system's high price ($699.95 USD at release) and an over-saturated console market prevented the 3DO from ever achieving any real market penetration."

"For a significant period of the products life cycle, 3DO's official stance on pricing was that the 3DO was not a video game console, it was a high-end audio-visual system and was priced accordingly, so no price adjustment was needed."

Take that with a grain of salt as its from Wikipedia. Striking parallels, though.

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You could also draw huge parallels between the 360 and the dreamcast, remember how that turned out.

i agree except for the fact that the 360 is getting tons of multiplats with the PS3. No EA killed DC
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#14 Kizzle28
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There are some striking similarities, but that hardly means the PS3 will go belly-up like the 3D0 did. Sony has already established a market for the past decade, so it's not like Sony's game division will collapse because of the PS3. However, ties have been severed, trusts have been shaken, and now Sony is on the brink of losing their dominance in the industry...already. I personally thought it would take 2-3 years, but the way the Wii and 360 are selling, Sony is poised to lose alot of market share.

I don't think the PS3 will just die like the 3D0 did, but I do think that Sony will (and already has) lost alot of customers, developer support, and money. I still think the PS3 will sell a decent amount of units. But overall, it seems this generation is one of change and the Wii and 360 are the beneficiaries of this new fortune.
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#15 NVIDIAholic
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But overall, it seems this generation is one of change and the Wii and 360 are the beneficiaries of this new fortune.Kizzle28


I hear this time and time again but since when did the first year of next-gen establish anything? The Wii and X360 are doing very well and that's a fact. Another fact is that the PS3 is selling about as good as X360 did at this point in time last year (even without Europe). By that indication, the Wii is going to smoke the competition.

But what lies ahead is what determines the make-it-or-break-it. Price cuts and major exclusives. You have way over 100 million last gen gamers out there (and I know what the majority preferred) so don't tell me you can sit there and talk about beneficiaries of new fortune with roughly 15 million gamers on tap so far. It doesn't add up. Someone out there is waiting. For what? Only time will tell.
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#16 TekkenMaster606
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The 3DO sold about 6 million units and had less than 70 games during it's lifespan.

I'll be sure to let you know when the Playstation 3 breaks both of those barriers. Why, GameSpot even lists 242 games released for, in development, or announced for the Playstation 3.

So are you telling me that around 170 games are going to get cancelled? :lol:


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Let's not forget the fact that the 3DO was manufactured by companies that didn't even see any cash from the sale of games. Goldstar (LG) and Panasonic were not getting paid everytime a piece of software sold. They had to make their money on the sale of the hardware.

You should know that the 3DO continually sold at a price point above the cost to manufacture it.
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#18 castlevaniaX
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but this logic fails, since sony has penetrated the industry, and has planted roots, many, but some of those are starting to loosen, the 3D0  was a new company and new attempt on their behalf, sony has already placed themselves on the map.snakeofsolid
you are % 100 right. For Post creator, please..study the market before posting.
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#19 Nike_Air
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$699 would be like paying a grand today at least. And for what exactly ? I don't remember any games for that system other than that craptacular Zelda game.

I could probably list 20 reasons why the 3do failed and why the ps3 won't but I am sure it is pretty obvious to 95% of the people here so I won't bother.



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#20 zzzaaa
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Do you know how much $700 was in 1993?  Alot more than $600 is in 2007.
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#21 TekkenMaster606
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$699 would be like paying a grand today at least. And for what exactly ? I don't remember any games for that system other than that craptacular Zelda game.

I could probably list 20 reasons why the 3do failed and why the ps3 won't but I am sure it is pretty obvious to 95% of the people here so I won't bother.



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Craptacular Zelda was on the Philips CDi. Another crappy console.
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Topic Fails its 599 not 699
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#23 Truewiseblade
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the probem with that parallel is that the PS3 still has its name to rely on. the 3Do was an overpriced unknown that was simply ovrlooked because Nintendo and Sega just had much better reputations.
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#24 Tony_aaaa
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To me, the PS3 is not like the 3DO.

The PS3 (Cell media processor + Blue-Ray) is more a next-gen version of the NUON. 

Unlike Nuon, PS3 can play games well enough to succeed.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuon

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#25 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]$699 would be like paying a grand today at least. And for what exactly ? I don't remember any games for that system other than that craptacular Zelda game.

I could probably list 20 reasons why the 3do failed and why the ps3 won't but I am sure it is pretty obvious to 95% of the people here so I won't bother.



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Craptacular Zelda was on the Philips CDi. Another crappy console.

Hahahahaha ..... my bad. See , I didn't even know what crap system had which crap games.


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but this logic fails, since sony has penetrated the industry, and has planted roots, many, but some of those are starting to loosen, the 3D0 was a new company and new attempt on their behalf, sony has already placed themselves on the map.snakeofsolid
Yeah, isn't that obvious? Sony is SONY. They're ubiquitous. They were one of the most well-known and respected electronics companies for over twenty years before they stepped in to the console market -- and they made the two best-selling consoles of all time. There's no comparison -- none. Sony OWNS the console market. The ps3 may only be learning to walk, but the ps2 is still kicking MS's butt. So even though they're losing money on the ps3 they're making a killing on their old console, and they're not going to go belly up.