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#1 Posted by Zelda187 (480 posts) -

Everyone keeps babbling on about Titanfall, Infamous, etc.

What about The Evil Within? When the hell was the last time we had a legit, old school survival horror game? Dead Space is the only thing that can even come close.

Resident Evil has turned into an action series over the past 10 years, Silent Hill is fucking awful now, and Alone in the Dark is dead and buried.

My two most anticipated upcoming gamed: The Evil Within and The Division

#2 Edited by Animal-Mother (26150 posts) -

Silent hill can be very hit or miss. While downpour was an interesting step in the right direction it miffed a lot of gameplay mechanics and other things.

Resident evil will always hold a special place in my heart but the series is in serious decline. Especially after the crap fest 6 was.

The Evil Within is Mikami kinda of returning to a place where I personally think he belongs.

He's learned a lot in the years past with Shadows of the damned and Vanquish. I'm sure the evil within will be really great. I know i'm looking forward to it.

#3 Edited by uninspiredcup (6515 posts) -

My friend, the sad news is, consoles can't do survival horror. Only the pc is capable of this thanks to indie gaming. And even old titles like Resident Evil, they are laughable compared to System Shock 2.

#4 Edited by Animal-Mother (26150 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

My friend, the sad news is, consoles can't do survival horror. Only the pc is capable of this thanks to indie gaming. And even old titles like Resident Evil, they are laughable compared to System Shock 2.

Yeah that's why they call mikami the grandfather of survival horror........ Also no sad news for me. I get to play an awesome game by an awesome developer.

Have fun missing out old man!

#5 Edited by uninspiredcup (6515 posts) -

@Animal-Mother said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friend, the sad news is, consoles can't do survival horror. Only the pc is capable of this thanks to indie gaming. And even old titles like Resident Evil, they are laughable compared to System Shock 2.

Yeah that's why they call mikami the grandfather of survival horror..

Which is factually wrong. He just ripped off Alone in The Dark. A pc game for men and inventor of the genre.

I'm sick of having to be forced to educate console gamers, do your dam research.

#6 Edited by Legend500 (124 posts) -

Can't get excited until I find out how the game is structured. I'm absolutely f*cking sick of level based games and in survival horror it just doesn't cut it. I want big areas like Resident Evil where I get to backtrack and move around the world freely.

#7 Posted by Animal-Mother (26150 posts) -

@Animal-Mother said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friend, the sad news is, consoles can't do survival horror. Only the pc is capable of this thanks to indie gaming. And even old titles like Resident Evil, they are laughable compared to System Shock 2.

Yeah that's why they call mikami the grandfather of survival horror..

Which is factually wrong. He just ripped off Alone in The Dark. A pc game for men and inventor of the genre.

I'm sick of having to be forced to educate console gamers, do your dam research.

I did you didn't.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Mikami+Grandfather+of+survival+horro&rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS437US437&oq=Mikami+Grandfather+of+survival+horro&aqs=chrome..69i57.6979j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8#es_sm=93&espv=210&q=Mikami+Grandfather+of+survival+horror&spell=1

Can you name the director from alone in the dark without looking it up?

Also shut your damn mouth you fool

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Bigcrash5

You make yourself look more idiotic by the day.

#8 Edited by uninspiredcup (6515 posts) -

I have yet to be proven wrong. Also these links could be viruses, so I'm not clicking them.

#9 Edited by Animal-Mother (26150 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

I have yet to be proven wrong. Also these links could be viruses, so I'm not clicking them.

Instantly proven wrong. You also have yet to prove yourself right....

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Stick to your old self, have some prune juice and go knit you twit.

Here's some, go be butthurt in a corner somewhere.

#10 Posted by jg4xchamp (46540 posts) -

The game can be half as good as Resident Evil 4 and it would be really good. I'm excited for it. Shinji going out guns blazing. Believe.

#11 Posted by misterpmedia (3313 posts) -

Survival horror, inject it into my veins.

Hoping someone picks up the mantle to have the guts to dev a new next gen Silent Hill game too. Hopefully a Japanese dev though as Western devs have no idea about horror it seems.

#12 Posted by gameofthering (9906 posts) -

I think I'll get it. It may turn out good.

#13 Posted by TheGuardian03 (21186 posts) -

The last demo they showed it looked like shit, the shooting looked bad, and it was so linear, more than Uncharted.

I believe in Shenji (Shenji means believe in japanese lol ) but i had doubts after the last demo so i'm gonna wait until i see more to have proper judgement on it.

#14 Edited by Animal-Mother (26150 posts) -

The last demo they showed it looked like shit, the shooting looked bad, and it was so linear, more than Uncharted.

I believe in Shenji (Shenji means believe in japanese lol ) but i had doubts after the last demo so i'm gonna wait until i see more to have proper judgement on it.

I would assume that bethesda is/was (not 100% sure) probably pushing Mikami to get something together to show at trade shows.

#15 Posted by DarkLink77 (31683 posts) -

The game can be half as good as Resident Evil 4 and it would be really good. I'm excited for it. Shinji going out guns blazing. Believe.

All I want is for it to be half as good as RE4, which will still make it the best game of the year it releases.

On the other hand, dude hasn't been as good lately. We shall see.

#16 Posted by Animal-Mother (26150 posts) -

@jg4xchamp said:

The game can be half as good as Resident Evil 4 and it would be really good. I'm excited for it. Shinji going out guns blazing. Believe.

All I want is for it to be half as good as RE4, which will still make it the best game of the year it releases.

On the other hand, dude hasn't been as good lately. We shall see.

What makes you think that? Vanquish or shadows of the damned?

#17 Posted by DarkLink77 (31683 posts) -

@DarkLink77 said:

@jg4xchamp said:

The game can be half as good as Resident Evil 4 and it would be really good. I'm excited for it. Shinji going out guns blazing. Believe.

All I want is for it to be half as good as RE4, which will still make it the best game of the year it releases.

On the other hand, dude hasn't been as good lately. We shall see.

What makes you think that? Vanquish or shadows of the damned?

Either. Neither of those titles stacks up to RE4. They're not bad games, but... I dunno. Hard to believe it's the same guy.

#18 Posted by trollop_scat (2615 posts) -

Can't get excited until I find out how the game is structured. I'm absolutely f*cking sick of level based games and in survival horror it just doesn't cut it. I want big areas like Resident Evil where I get to backtrack and move around the world freely.

Amen, well said...

#19 Edited by Jag85 (4198 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friend, the sad news is, consoles can't do survival horror. Only the pc is capable of this thanks to indie gaming. And even old titles like Resident Evil, they are laughable compared to System Shock 2.

Yeah that's why they call mikami the grandfather of survival horror..

Which is factually wrong. He just ripped off Alone in The Dark. A pc game for men and inventor of the genre.

I'm sick of having to be forced to educate console gamers, do your dam research.

Nonsense. Capcom's Sweet Home, a survival horror for the NES console, came out years before Alone in the Dark. And it was Sweet Home that Mikami originally intended to remake as Resident Evil, although I have no doubt he borrowed some ideas from Alone in the Dark along the way, some good and some bad...*cough* tank controls *cough*

#20 Edited by NoirLamia777 (2093 posts) -

I'm really looking forward to The Evil Within, do we have a release date?

#21 Edited by uninspiredcup (6515 posts) -

@Jag85 said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friend, the sad news is, consoles can't do survival horror. Only the pc is capable of this thanks to indie gaming. And even old titles like Resident Evil, they are laughable compared to System Shock 2.

Yeah that's why they call mikami the grandfather of survival horror..

Which is factually wrong. He just ripped off Alone in The Dark. A pc game for men and inventor of the genre.

I'm sick of having to be forced to educate console gamers, do your dam research.

Nonsense. Capcom's Sweet Home, a survival horror for the NES console, came out years before Alone in the Dark. And it was Sweet Home that Mikami originally intended to remake as Resident Evil, although I have no doubt he borrowed some ideas from Alone in the Dark along the way, some good and some bad...*cough* tank controls *cough*

Not a 3d survival horror title. And 2d games on older systems outdate the nes. Nice try though sonny.

#23 Edited by Salt_The_Fries (8083 posts) -

Actually Sweet Home is a game that only people that PRETEND to be KNOWLEDGEABLE bring up. There was a real masterpiece of a visionary groundbreaking survival horror released earlier the same year, on Commodore 64. It was published by Electronic Arts and its name was Project Firestart, which was heavily inspired by Alien / Aliens. It was so complex, visionary and full of groundbreaking cutscenes that it came on 4 disks / cassettes! The survival aspect of the game was amazing - there were multiple ways to kill the enemies, not necessarily using firearms, because when you breached the hull in certain parts, that was game over for you. The game was also non-linear with different endings and encounters in-between, and its narrative was unveiled through text logs just like in modern games like BioShock or Dead Space.

#24 Edited by silversix_ (13418 posts) -

When i saw the prison part i instantly thought it'll be a crappy title i wouldn't even bother trying, that was before E3. Less than a month ago i've checked the village part for the first time and hole F! Visuals are last gen but it does look like a great horror title

#25 Edited by senses_fail_06 (6735 posts) -

Mikami = InstaBuy.

Probably my most looked forward to next gen release. That, or the Phantom Pain.

#26 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (8083 posts) -

By the way, of course Alone in the Dark was a groundbreaking survival horror classic that helped the genre take a modern form that was replicated by others ad nauseum. Another pillar of cinematic horror adventure games was BioForge released in 1995 by Origin Systems. It was the first game ever to implement motion capture by the way. I played all those games by the way (including Project Firestart), and finished Alone in the Dark 1 & 2, I'm a pro, I know what I'm talking about. I don't pretend to look up some games on the internet to look cool. BTW, there's also a very nice survival horror adventure/RPG/FPP hybrid - Realms of the Haunting from 1996 by Gremlin Interactive, also worth a look.

#27 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (8083 posts) -

Project Firestart >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sweet Home. Project Firestart is an action-adventure game and purest originator of survival horror, not just elements. It was PURE SURVIVAL HORROR, period. Sweet Home was an RPG whatever way you look at it. AND IT'S A FACT!

And the guy behind Alone in the Dark is Frédérick Raynal, I know this name without looking up. French developers, like those from Delphine Software or Infogrames, or other companies were household names back in 1990s PC journalist scene, and I already paid some serious attention to those names back then, that's why I'll remember them forever.

#28 Posted by Joedgabe (5087 posts) -

My friend, the sad news is, consoles can't do survival horror. Only the pc is capable of this thanks to indie gaming. And even old titles like Resident Evil, they are laughable compared to System Shock 2.

There's nothing at all on PC that would prevent the consoles from experiencing Survival Horror games. RE was great back in the day, even after you play system shock.

#29 Posted by StormyJoe (4474 posts) -

@Zelda187 said:

Everyone keeps babbling on about Titanfall, Infamous, etc.

What about The Evil Within? When the hell was the last time we had a legit, old school survival horror game? Dead Space is the only thing that can even come close.

Resident Evil has turned into an action series over the past 10 years, Silent Hill is fucking awful now, and Alone in the Dark is dead and buried.

My two most anticipated upcoming gamed: The Evil Within and The Division

I am looking forward to that game, too.

#30 Edited by uninspiredcup (6515 posts) -

@Joedgabe said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friend, the sad news is, consoles can't do survival horror. Only the pc is capable of this thanks to indie gaming. And even old titles like Resident Evil, they are laughable compared to System Shock 2.

There's nothing at all on PC that would prevent the consoles from experiencing Survival Horror games. RE was great back in the day, even after you play system shock.

My chumling, publishers think you only want to play call of duty. That's console gaming now.

#31 Posted by lamprey263 (22275 posts) -

I just hope it has lots of freedom and exploration, good combat mechanics, and is scary. From video I've seen the sections seem on rails linear but that could just be because they were important story sections and many survival horror games have them. Sure it seems people have been ignoring this game but at the same time the developers haven't been throwing gamers any red meat.

#32 Edited by seanmcloughlin (38113 posts) -

The game can be half as good as Resident Evil 4 and it would be really good. I'm excited for it. Shinji going out guns blazing. Believe.

I have a horrible sinking feeling that the game will disappoint, like Darklink I want to believe. I hope it's not just the same old stuff that we've seen in RE4. I mean sure the game is fantastic but I don't want a retread

#33 Posted by Legend500 (124 posts) -

@Joedgabe said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friend, the sad news is, consoles can't do survival horror. Only the pc is capable of this thanks to indie gaming. And even old titles like Resident Evil, they are laughable compared to System Shock 2.

There's nothing at all on PC that would prevent the consoles from experiencing Survival Horror games. RE was great back in the day, even after you play system shock.

My chumling, publishers think you only want to play call of duty. That's console gaming now.

Jog on mate, you've been destroyed many's a time in this thread alone.

#34 Posted by Vatusus (4186 posts) -

As a Mikami fan that thinks he actually was the greater talent at Capcom Clover/Platinum and not Kamyia, I'm really, REALLY, interested to see more of the game. Seems pretty great thus far

#35 Posted by Joedgabe (5087 posts) -

@Joedgabe said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friend, the sad news is, consoles can't do survival horror. Only the pc is capable of this thanks to indie gaming. And even old titles like Resident Evil, they are laughable compared to System Shock 2.

There's nothing at all on PC that would prevent the consoles from experiencing Survival Horror games. RE was great back in the day, even after you play system shock.

My chumling, publishers think you only want to play call of duty. That's console gaming now.

This is something i never quite understood. I know CoD has influenced a lot of MP games but i don't think COD was the beginning of the health regen cheap cover based system 2 weapon FPS games that has taken FPS down a lot.

#36 Posted by finalfantasy94 (26136 posts) -

The game can be half as good as Resident Evil 4 and it would be really good. I'm excited for it. Shinji going out guns blazing. Believe.

Well with remake we know he can do good horror atmosphere. Lets hope he can do it with this since he failed on that front with RE4.RE4 was still a good action game though.

#37 Edited by finalfantasy94 (26136 posts) -

@Animal-Mother said:

Silent hill can be very hit or miss. While downpour was an interesting step in the right direction it miffed a lot of gameplay mechanics and other things.

Resident evil will always hold a special place in my heart but the series is in serious decline. Especially after the crap fest 6 was.

The Evil Within is Mikami kinda of returning to a place where I personally think he belongs.

He's learned a lot in the years past with Shadows of the damned and Vanquish. I'm sure the evil within will be really great. I know i'm looking forward to it.

What did you think of shattered memories? I personally loved it and felt it was a great turn for the series.

#38 Posted by Ballroompirate (21431 posts) -

Why is this topic in the SW forum and Games Discussion forum?

I mean I can't wait for Evil Within but come on >.>

#39 Edited by timmy00 (15360 posts) -

The Evil within should be great. Mikami rarely disappoints so I expect great things from the game. :D

@uninspiredcup said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friend, the sad news is, consoles can't do survival horror. Only the pc is capable of this thanks to indie gaming. And even old titles like Resident Evil, they are laughable compared to System Shock 2.

Yeah that's why they call mikami the grandfather of survival horror..

Which is factually wrong. He just ripped off Alone in The Dark. A pc game for men and inventor of the genre.

I'm sick of having to be forced to educate console gamers, do your dam research.

Oh this shit again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Home_(video_game) The first real horror game out there iirc. Alone in the dark didn't invent the genre nor coin the term "Survival horror" so yeah. Not gonna bother anymore time with you. You can debate if Alone in the dark did more for survival horror but it did not invent the genre.

#40 Posted by millerlight89 (18338 posts) -

After the turd Amnesia MfP, and the utter disappointment that was Outlast, I am ready for a good horror game. I want a another SH game. I want an improved downpour game. It was such a wonderful in the right direction. I can't wait to see what's next.

#41 Posted by uninspiredcup (6515 posts) -

@timmy00 said:

The Evil within should be great. Mikami rarely disappoints so I expect great things from the game. :D

@uninspiredcup said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@uninspiredcup said:

My friend, the sad news is, consoles can't do survival horror. Only the pc is capable of this thanks to indie gaming. And even old titles like Resident Evil, they are laughable compared to System Shock 2.

Yeah that's why they call mikami the grandfather of survival horror..

Which is factually wrong. He just ripped off Alone in The Dark. A pc game for men and inventor of the genre.

I'm sick of having to be forced to educate console gamers, do your dam research.

Oh this shit again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Home_(video_game) The first real horror game out there iirc. Alone in the dark didn't invent the genre nor coin the term "Survival horror" so yeah. Not gonna bother anymore time with you. You can debate if Alone in the dark did more for survival horror but it did not invent the genre.

2d/3d. Nobody gives a flying fuck about 2d.

#42 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (8083 posts) -

I like how I obliterated the discussion yet everyone pretended not to notice it. Typical.

#43 Posted by remiks00 (1485 posts) -

@Zelda187 said:

Everyone keeps babbling on about Titanfall, Infamous, etc.

What about The Evil Within? When the hell was the last time we had a legit, old school survival horror game? Dead Space is the only thing that can even come close.

Resident Evil has turned into an action series over the past 10 years, Silent Hill is fucking awful now, and Alone in the Dark is dead and buried.

My two most anticipated upcoming gamed: The Evil Within and The Division

I personally can't wait for it. I used to be a HUGE Resident Evil & Silent Hill fan, but they have been consistently sucking for 7 years(All last gen). Resident Evil 5 wasn't too bad, but Silent Hill....man.

#44 Edited by chocolate1325 (32368 posts) -

Big fan of Mikami since he left RE has been on a downward spiral apart from Revelations. Vanquish was an overlooked title but I am really interested in The Evil Within.

#45 Edited by Liquid_ (2238 posts) -

@Zelda187 said:

Everyone keeps babbling on about Titanfall, Infamous, etc.

What about The Evil Within? When the hell was the last time we had a legit, old school survival horror game? Dead Space is the only thing that can even come close.

Resident Evil has turned into an action series over the past 10 years, Silent Hill is fucking awful now, and Alone in the Dark is dead and buried.

My two most anticipated upcoming gamed: The Evil Within and The Division

Outlast..Amnesia..Slenderman..

Time to get a PC

#47 Posted by clone01 (24085 posts) -

Silent hill can be very hit or miss. While downpour was an interesting step in the right direction it miffed a lot of gameplay mechanics and other things.

Resident evil will always hold a special place in my heart but the series is in serious decline. Especially after the crap fest 6 was.

The Evil Within is Mikami kinda of returning to a place where I personally think he belongs.

He's learned a lot in the years past with Shadows of the damned and Vanquish. I'm sure the evil within will be really great. I know i'm looking forward to it.

I need to give downpour a try sometime.

#48 Posted by Animal-Mother (26150 posts) -

@finalfantasy94:

@Animal-Mother said:

Silent hill can be very hit or miss. While downpour was an interesting step in the right direction it miffed a lot of gameplay mechanics and other things.

Resident evil will always hold a special place in my heart but the series is in serious decline. Especially after the crap fest 6 was.

The Evil Within is Mikami kinda of returning to a place where I personally think he belongs.

He's learned a lot in the years past with Shadows of the damned and Vanquish. I'm sure the evil within will be really great. I know i'm looking forward to it.

What did you think of shattered memories? I personally loved it and felt it was a great turn for the series.

Shattered memories was a great re-envisioning for the series. It went for more of the psychological aspects of 2 which was neat. But nonetheless I think they failed to deliver on some monsters and some of the level design was a bit archaic for my taste. But other wise it told a great fun interesting story. If they did another one in the vein of the earlier games it'd be awesome. It's just a shame they can't get the band or a good band back together :/

#49 Posted by Animal-Mother (26150 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@Animal-Mother said:

Silent hill can be very hit or miss. While downpour was an interesting step in the right direction it miffed a lot of gameplay mechanics and other things.

Resident evil will always hold a special place in my heart but the series is in serious decline. Especially after the crap fest 6 was.

The Evil Within is Mikami kinda of returning to a place where I personally think he belongs.

He's learned a lot in the years past with Shadows of the damned and Vanquish. I'm sure the evil within will be really great. I know i'm looking forward to it.

I need to give downpour a try sometime.

Downpour is Ok... If you go in with low expectations it can be a good ride. It has some interesting concepts but I think Vatra failed to deliver on some more unnerving things. Though it may be us ourselves. We've been playing the series for so long we become desensitized. Comabt is a bit frustrating but can be fun, the town itself is an awesome character and adding side quests making it a pseudo open world game was a smart choice. It has interesting concepts and is the best SH game in a long while, though that's not saying a lot.

Konami needs to take a good long look at the series and find some really fucked up people to make it again. Rather than outsourcing it and hoping for the best.

#50 Edited by Salt_The_Fries (8083 posts) -

Why no one bothered to address Project Firestart?