The DS4 analogs are horrible compared to the X1 Controller.

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#1 Edited by MBirdy88 (8208 posts) -

I'm not too familiar with modding controllers. but playing a friends Xbox one last night... it was painfully obvious how much better the analog sticks are in not only their accelerated sensitivity... but the grip as well.... was absolutely impossible to slip on that controller... perfect for FPS. even though it was only cod we were playing it felt 100x better than my experience with the DS4 and Destiny.

The only downside to the DS4 vs the X1 Controller though... but a very big one for most games.

Anyone know of any recommended alternatives? the material/grip is horrible.

#2 Posted by slimdogmilionar (559 posts) -

No I know last gen you could buy aftermarket PS3 controllers that had thumsticks like the 360 controller. Sooner or later there will be a 3rd party DS4 like the xbox controller.

#3 Posted by Heil68 (44457 posts) -

I've always done well with DS controller sticks. I dont think any 3rd party will change them that much.

#4 Posted by Bishop1310 (1089 posts) -

yup they are awful. (DS4). Ive had the rubber come off of them already. Not a single problem with my x1 controllers, besides having to buy rechargeable batteries.

#5 Posted by chikenfriedrice (10409 posts) -

Nothing compares to the X1 controller...best controller ever.

#6 Posted by wolverine4262 (19311 posts) -

I use a ds4 for PC gaming. I like it on the whole, but still prefer the analog placement of xbox controllers.

#7 Posted by ironcreed (14083 posts) -

@chikenfriedrice: Without question. Games just flat out play better with this controller. Liquid precision is how I like to describe it.

#8 Edited by Salt_The_Fries (8747 posts) -

I remember playing Uncharted for the first time on PS3, that first section on a boat...those sticks were horrible, especially when you wanted to do circular movements with both at the same time and shooting with R1 was unbelievably bad.

#9 Edited by Sushiglutton (5301 posts) -

Just put a piece of gum on the DS4 sticks, problem solved!

#10 Edited by PapaTrop (1159 posts) -

@chikenfriedrice said:

Nothing compares to the X1 controller...best controller ever.

Pretty much.

If I hadn't gotten an Xbox 360 controller as a gift (for my PC), I'd have gone with the Xbox One controller without a second thought. That controller is so incredibly good.

#11 Posted by GTSaiyanjin2 (5972 posts) -

Never had an issue with a controller... at least nothing major... I've always been able to adjust to them.

#12 Posted by edwardecl (2239 posts) -

I thought the complaint about the 360 and even more so with the One controller was the dead zone. Is this not more important? I've never used any Xbox controller to test myself.

Stick placement is personal preference or what you are used to, although I guess the grips are common complaint

#13 Edited by getyeryayasout (7489 posts) -

I use one of those green rubber caps that clips on over the left stick of my DS4..

They work great, and look like this:

#14 Edited by chikenfriedrice (10409 posts) -

@papatrop said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

Nothing compares to the X1 controller...best controller ever.

Pretty much.

If I hadn't gotten an Xbox 360 controller as a gift (for my PC), I'd have gone with the Xbox One controller without a second thought. That controller is so incredibly good.

I used to use the 360 controller on my PC until MS updated the drivers for the X1 controller and yeah it feels so much better.

#15 Edited by LadyBlue (3928 posts) -

Nothing horrible about the ds4, well the battery is, but nothing else.

The one controller feels nice too, the bumpers are horrible, & you can't place a gummy on that.

#16 Edited by B4X (4730 posts) -

If you have to think about modding something right after you buy it. There might be a problem.

The rubber shreds. The placement of the analogs suck. I hate the archaic design and layout.

What are you going to do?

At least you can buy aftermarket analog cap replacements on Amazon.

EDIT: I hated the analog placement before the Xbox brand was even a thing.

#17 Posted by AM-Gamer (3927 posts) -

Neither controller is perfect.

I feel the PS4 controller feels better in the hands and the face buttons and triggers are far better then the Xbox one. The trigger buttons are to close on the X1 for me. But there is no denying the rubber on the DS4 joysticks sucks. I wish they would just use a different kind for the controller.

#18 Edited by Syn_Valence (1350 posts) -

Bumper buttons bring the xbone controller down to the dirt. Try again

#19 Posted by clone01 (24737 posts) -

From what I've played of the DS4, I thought it was fine, although I have pretty limited experience with it so far.

#20 Posted by B4X (4730 posts) -

@Syn_Valence said:

Bumper buttons bring the xbone controller down to the dirt. Try again

They work great. Use it for more than 2 mins. You might know this.

Ask anyone in here if they have problems with the bumpers after 4 hours of play?

I have zero problems with them. They are excellent.

#21 Edited by Shielder7 (5152 posts) -

I think this petty much sums up what you' tying to do.

#22 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (14064 posts) -

How are you slipping on Concave sticks?

Do you have like gorilla hands or something?

#23 Posted by handssss (1836 posts) -

agree with you when it comes to general build quality (though the sticks on mine seem to not have any signs of wear yet), but that's it. DS4 sticks are tighter than the Xbone's loose sticks and the Xbone sticks have really bad deadzones

#24 Posted by Chutebox (37213 posts) -

Both controllers are fine with me. Don't have any problems or any preference of one over the other.

#25 Posted by clyde46 (46248 posts) -

The 360's pad was and always will be king of controllers.

#26 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14064 posts) -

@b4x said:

If you have to think about modding something right after you buy it. There might be a problem.

The rubber shreds. The placement of the analogs suck. I hate the archaic design and layout.

What are you going to do?

At least you can buy aftermarket analog cap replacements on Amazon.

EDIT: I hated the analog placement before the Xbox brand was even a thing.

Idk, It's better to replace certain parts of a controller rather than thinking about throwing out a whole console.

#27 Posted by chessmaster1989 (29277 posts) -

How are your hands slipping on the DS4? The sticks curve inwards so I don't see how you manage that.

Anyway, symmetrical > asymmetrical

#28 Posted by B4X (4730 posts) -

@chessmaster1989 said:

How are your hands slipping on the DS4? The sticks curve inwards so I don't see how you manage that.

Anyway, symmetrical > asymmetrical

Now hold your hand out naturally. I smell something.

#29 Posted by B4X (4730 posts) -

@MBirdy88:

Amazon Pad replacments.

#30 Posted by EducatingU_PCMR (717 posts) -

Well what would you expect, Sony uses cheap parts to build their HW.

The PS4 squeaks just by looking at it.

Now you know where the $400 price cane from

#31 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (14064 posts) -

@EducatingU_PCMR said:

Well what would you expect, Sony uses cheap parts to build their HW.

The PS4 squeaks just by looking at it.

Now you know where the $400 price cane from

You have to be fucking joking, or just really stupid.

Let's look at the piece of shit box instead, lol. Significantly weaker in just about every way yet they had the gall to ask even now for a comparative price.

When we all know it should just be cheaper. Microsoft sucks at hardware, even when it comes to reliability. Hell just look at how big the RROD epidemic was, that shit became a meme.

#32 Posted by regnaston (243 posts) -

I am finding my XB1 controller is now drifting to the left and up (left thumbstick)

I like the feel of the controller though. I have the extended warranty, but MS wants me to send the old controller in before sending me a new one.. I only have one controller so I would be without one (or I have to buy a new one)

#33 Edited by ghostwarrior786 (4615 posts) -

u must have small hand or something because x1 controller sticks are very small, no idea why ms changed the size and the friction of the sticks, its a step back from x360 controller.

#34 Edited by B4X (4730 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@EducatingU_PCMR said:

Well what would you expect, Sony uses cheap parts to build their HW.

The PS4 squeaks just by looking at it.

Now you know where the $400 price cane from

You have to be fucking joking, or just really stupid.

Let's look at the piece of shit box instead, lol. Significantly weaker in just about every way yet they had the gall to ask even now for a comparative price.

When we all know it should just be cheaper. Microsoft sucks at hardware, even when it comes to reliability. Hell just look at how big the RROD epidemic was, that shit became a meme.

#35 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14064 posts) -

@b4x said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@EducatingU_PCMR said:

Well what would you expect, Sony uses cheap parts to build their HW.

The PS4 squeaks just by looking at it.

Now you know where the $400 price cane from

You have to be fucking joking, or just really stupid.

Let's look at the piece of shit box instead, lol. Significantly weaker in just about every way yet they had the gall to ask even now for a comparative price.

When we all know it should just be cheaper. Microsoft sucks at hardware, even when it comes to reliability. Hell just look at how big the RROD epidemic was, that shit became a meme.

Yes, we are aware of your natural state.

#36 Edited by handssss (1836 posts) -

@b4x said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

How are your hands slipping on the DS4? The sticks curve inwards so I don't see how you manage that.

Anyway, symmetrical > asymmetrical

Now hold your hand out naturally. I smell something.

yeah. your thumbs are in the same spot on both hands and both your arms are the same length.

#37 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14064 posts) -

@handssss said:

@b4x said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

How are your hands slipping on the DS4? The sticks curve inwards so I don't see how you manage that.

Anyway, symmetrical > asymmetrical

Now hold your hand out naturally. I smell something.

yeah. your thumbs are in the same spot on both hands and both your arms are the same length.

I was just about to say... lol.

#38 Posted by regnaston (243 posts) -

actually on the line with MS now and they are sending a replacement .. and I dont have to send the old one back

#39 Posted by eNT1TY (1021 posts) -

Not only the analog sticks, but the triggers and build quality are MUCH better on xb1 pad. The ds4 is fantastically designed but poorly put together. It is a frail and delicate piece of crap. I'm on my 3rd and final ds4 with the previous 2 braking at the right trigger. For reference my son plays xb1 10-15 hours a week and i play ps4 about 4 hours a week yet his gamepad looks newer with less wear than even my newest ds4. You can buy replacements for the triggers for $6 on ebay but they take more than a week to get and shipping can add another $3-5.

#40 Posted by chessmaster1989 (29277 posts) -
@b4x said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

How are your hands slipping on the DS4? The sticks curve inwards so I don't see how you manage that.

Anyway, symmetrical > asymmetrical

Now hold your hand out naturally. I smell something.

?

#41 Edited by Alcapello (947 posts) -

#42 Posted by Mystery_Writer (7934 posts) -

@MBirdy88:

try this http://xim4.com/

#43 Edited by EducatingU_PCMR (717 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4:

How is that related to what I said about Sony using cheap parts?

Just look how ugly the DS4 is, it looks like cheap Chinese garbage invention next to the XO controller:

Those speaker's holes lol

Add to that the amount of complains of thumb-sticks melting and squeaky triggers + poor battery life.

#44 Posted by B4X (4730 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@b4x said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@EducatingU_PCMR said:

Well what would you expect, Sony uses cheap parts to build their HW.

The PS4 squeaks just by looking at it.

Now you know where the $400 price cane from

You have to be fucking joking, or just really stupid.

Let's look at the piece of shit box instead, lol. Significantly weaker in just about every way yet they had the gall to ask even now for a comparative price.

When we all know it should just be cheaper. Microsoft sucks at hardware, even when it comes to reliability. Hell just look at how big the RROD epidemic was, that shit became a meme.

Yes, we are aware of your natural state.

I have zero Hitler pics. Thank you very much. :P

#45 Posted by silversix_ (14559 posts) -

I agree on this. I HATE ps4 analogs. At least the 100M went into something useful on the Bones controller.

#46 Posted by handssss (1836 posts) -

@chessmaster1989 said:
@b4x said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

How are your hands slipping on the DS4? The sticks curve inwards so I don't see how you manage that.

Anyway, symmetrical > asymmetrical

Now hold your hand out naturally. I smell something.

?

He's so full of his own shit, he's subconsciously aware of it.

#47 Edited by B4X (4730 posts) -

@chessmaster1989 said:
@b4x said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

How are your hands slipping on the DS4? The sticks curve inwards so I don't see how you manage that.

Anyway, symmetrical > asymmetrical

Now hold your hand out naturally. I smell something.

?

Where does your left thumb naturally lay on the DS4 controller?

With out moving it? Relaxing your hand. Then tell me what part of the controller you use the most?

My thumb is on the d-pad naturally.

#48 Edited by Telekill (4598 posts) -

Coincidentally, I held an X1 controller yesterday for the first time and hated it. For me it was the triggers and bumpers. It didn't feel right in the hands. That said, I never liked those buttons on the 360 controller either.

#49 Edited by Alcapello (947 posts) -

@b4x said:

@chessmaster1989 said:
@b4x said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

How are your hands slipping on the DS4? The sticks curve inwards so I don't see how you manage that.

Anyway, symmetrical > asymmetrical

Now hold your hand out naturally. I smell something.

?

Where does your left thumb naturally lay on the DS4 controller?

With out moving it? Relaxing your hand. What part of the controller do you use the most?

My thumb is in the d-pad naturally.

Try gatting a woman

#50 Edited by B4X (4730 posts) -

@alcapello:

Are you a real person?

For the love of good get off here and read a book.