The boring gameplay is the least of Ryse concerns

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#1 Edited by 2mrw (5218 posts) -

It will suck game play wise, and there is no way around it but what really kills the game is that it has no fantasy or magical stuff in it.

GOW is a close game that relies heavily on QTE and cinematics, and the main difference is GOW is set in a much more interesting world full of myths and magical creatures and Gods and this adds to the variety of the game which can make it easier to overlook the repetitiveness of the game.

The Roman era looks interesting at the first glance but the more I see, the less exciting it becomes, you will spend your time killing humans, one after another in the most boring fashions that we have been seeing.

Too sad that once a very good looking game is now nothing but a boring feast, even watching is boring.

#2 Edited by lundy86_4 (44336 posts) -

Why on Earth, does it need fantasy/magic?

#3 Posted by Lumpy311 (2009 posts) -

I see you have played the entire game already, since you know how it's gameplay is exactly.

#4 Edited by Opus_Rea-333 (1124 posts) -

you really conviced me to cancel my Ryse preorder.

#5 Edited by 2mrw (5218 posts) -

@lundy86_4 said:

Why on Earth, does it need fantasy/magic?

To add to the variety of this boring feast.

#6 Posted by lundy86_4 (44336 posts) -

@2mrw said:

@lundy86_4 said:

Why on Earth, does it need fantasy/magic?

To add to the variety of this boring feast.

It can't have variety, besides those? Have you experienced all the gameplay, to say with certainty, that fantasy elements need to be included?

#7 Edited by RAGEofSTUNTS (731 posts) -

@lundy86_4: There are certain amounts of realism, and Ryse's realism makes it a boring movie, when it is trying to be a action game. If the game had a bit more fiction and flare to the actual gameplay, then maybe it would be saved.

Really though, this could of been a good movie, but now you have to pay $500 + $60 for the game, QTEs, and having to repeat the same actions over and over.

#8 Posted by lundy86_4 (44336 posts) -

@RAGEofSTUNTS said:

@lundy86_4: There are certain amounts of realism, and Ryse's realism makes it a boring movie, when it is trying to be a action game.

Really though, this could of been a good movie, but now you have to pay $500 + $60 for the game, QTEs, and having to repeat the same actions over and over.

Wow, amazing! Realism makes something boring. You learn something new every day.

#9 Posted by 2mrw (5218 posts) -

@Lumpy311 said:

I see you have played the entire game already, since you know how it's gameplay is exactly.

It's not rocket science, if there was anything exciting, they would have shown it, unless they are so stupid to hide all the goodies when all they have been hearing is bad press.

#10 Posted by kingtito (5284 posts) -

@RAGEofSTUNTS said:

@lundy86_4: There are certain amounts of realism, and Ryse's realism makes it a boring movie, when it is trying to be a action game. If the game had a bit more fiction and flare to the actual gameplay, then maybe it would be saved.

Really though, this could of been a good movie, but now you have to pay $500 + $60 for the game, QTEs, and having to repeat the same actions over and over.

YOU don't have to buy anything. It's the game looks appealing then you buy it, if not then don't. Don't pretend like you've played the game or have seen more than just a few minutes of it.

#11 Edited by 2mrw (5218 posts) -

@lundy86_4 said:

@2mrw said:

@lundy86_4 said:

Why on Earth, does it need fantasy/magic?

To add to the variety of this boring feast.

It can't have variety, besides those? Have you experienced all the gameplay, to say with certainty, that fantasy elements need to be included?

I am not saying that the game must have fantasy/magic ... but the setting they are adopting is boring as hell .... spicing things up would cover for the boring and repetitive mechanics.

#12 Edited by lundy86_4 (44336 posts) -

@2mrw said:

@lundy86_4 said:

It can't have variety, besides those? Have you experienced all the gameplay, to say with certainty, that fantasy elements need to be included?

I am not saying that the game must have fantasy/magic ... but the setting they are adopting is boring as hell .... spicing things up would cover for the boring and repetitive mechanics.

So, you're of the opinion that the setting is boring. Excellent. On the flip-side, i'm getting a real Spartacus vibe, and I love that.

You're saying that a lack of magic/fantasy really kills the game, but I honestly don't see why. I'm over the GoW type games.

#13 Edited by RAGEofSTUNTS (731 posts) -

@lundy86_4 said:

@RAGEofSTUNTS said:

@lundy86_4: There are certain amounts of realism, and Ryse's realism makes it a boring movie, when it is trying to be a action game.

Really though, this could of been a good movie, but now you have to pay $500 + $60 for the game, QTEs, and having to repeat the same actions over and over.

Wow, amazing! Realism makes something boring. You learn something new every day.

lrn2read

@kingtito said:

@RAGEofSTUNTS said:

@lundy86_4: There are certain amounts of realism, and Ryse's realism makes it a boring movie, when it is trying to be a action game. If the game had a bit more fiction and flare to the actual gameplay, then maybe it would be saved.

Really though, this could of been a good movie, but now you have to pay $500 + $60 for the game, QTEs, and having to repeat the same actions over and over.

YOU don't have to buy anything. It's the game looks appealing then you buy it, if not then don't. Don't pretend like you've played the game or have seen more than just a few minutes of it.

Never said I HAVE to buy anything, I just don't understand how any idiot would find something with such boring gameplay so appealing and use it as a incentive to buy a Xbone. The same people that think Ryse is actually good have seen just as much as I have, this entire forum is just making predictions and putting reasons for why their prediction will most likely be right.

#14 Edited by silversix_ (16219 posts) -

the game looks as fun as Big Rigs.

#15 Posted by lundy86_4 (44336 posts) -

@RAGEofSTUNTS said:

@lundy86_4 said:

@RAGEofSTUNTS said:

@lundy86_4: There are certain amounts of realism, and Ryse's realism makes it a boring movie, when it is trying to be a action game.

Really though, this could of been a good movie, but now you have to pay $500 + $60 for the game, QTEs, and having to repeat the same actions over and over.

Wow, amazing! Realism makes something boring. You learn something new every day.

lrn2read

Oh, I read what you said. Your attempted quip about being a "movie" largely falls flat. It's as though realism has no place in games, which makes no sense.

#16 Posted by 2mrw (5218 posts) -

@lundy86_4 said:

@2mrw said:

@lundy86_4 said:

It can't have variety, besides those? Have you experienced all the gameplay, to say with certainty, that fantasy elements need to be included?

I am not saying that the game must have fantasy/magic ... but the setting they are adopting is boring as hell .... spicing things up would cover for the boring and repetitive mechanics.

So, you're of the opinion that the setting is boring. Excellent. On the flip-side, i'm getting a real Spartacus vibe, and I love that.

You're saying that a lack of magic/fantasy really kills the game, but I honestly don't see why. I'm over the GoW type games.

Good for you that you will overlook all the deal breaking flaws of the game but they are still there and they are obvious for everyone.

#17 Posted by trugs26 (5952 posts) -

TC, that's a very uncreative suggestion. Further, the basis you're going off is unjustified. At least play the game before stating any of this.

#18 Edited by lundy86_4 (44336 posts) -

@2mrw said:

@lundy86_4 said:

So, you're of the opinion that the setting is boring. Excellent. On the flip-side, i'm getting a real Spartacus vibe, and I love that.

You're saying that a lack of magic/fantasy really kills the game, but I honestly don't see why. I'm over the GoW type games.

Good for you that you will overlook all the deal breaking flaws of the game but they are still there and they are obvious for everyone.

At the end of the day, if I enjoy it, what does it matter? I'm the person playing it. Why should I care what you think?

In all honesty, your initial premise is just outright flawed. If this game is terrible, then I likely won't buy it. That being said, i'm willing to actually wait it out and try it.

#19 Posted by 2mrw (5218 posts) -

@trugs26 said:

TC, that's a very uncreative suggestion. Further, the basis you're going off is unjustified. At least play the game before stating any of this.

I am just comparing it to a very similar game that has the same mechanics but it was clever enough to cover its flaws this way .... it's actually a very practical suggestion and we know it works, not to mention magic by itself is very creative and interesting :D

I would love to play the game, unfortauntely it doesn't look interesting for me anymore .... it caught my eye at first but there is no substance to it.

#21 Posted by trugs26 (5952 posts) -

@2mrw: What you're suggesting is to essentially change the game. Try to suggest something that is parallel with what the game is about (ie realism, replicating roman times, etc.), and making it fun. It's a cop out just to say "Oh just throw magic in there and be like this other game".

#22 Posted by BilkeLegenda (1933 posts) -

It's not Romanians, it is Romans. It all comes down to opinion in the end. I think Ryse will turn out to be a good game.

#23 Edited by GrenadeLauncher (6256 posts) -

Gonna be funny when the supernatural stuff shows up and all the Roman history buffs immediately stop playing and destroy their copies.

I TOLD YOU ABOUT CRYTEK

I TOLD YOU, DAWG

#24 Edited by psych2416256 (56 posts) -

aliens might as well show up in the last third because the game is already making a mockery of history.

and you don't need sci-fi to have diversive gameplay, just something more than attack block and finishers, maybe different weapons and ranged weapons that work god forbid. watch this game score 5/10 on gamespot

#25 Posted by foxhound_fox (90820 posts) -

How the hell do you have like 4400+ posts?

#26 Posted by freedomfreak (43566 posts) -

It worked for Shadow of Rome.

But Shadow of Rome's combat is brilliant, so I guess that helps.

#27 Edited by Shewgenja (11030 posts) -

Lem Logic 101:

Make fun of MGS4 unless it is being rumored to come to the 360. Eventually settle on the notion that it is Movie Gear Solid huehuehue

HYPE RYSE TO DEATH!!!!!1111111111seventyfourrrrrrrrr

#28 Edited by magicalclick (23960 posts) -

This thread is not magical enough to be worthy of a thread.

#29 Edited by madsnakehhh (14994 posts) -

It looks boring as hell...but to claim that the real reason of why this game will fail is the lack of a fantasy element?

#30 Edited by lamprey263 (25607 posts) -

It's not really the gameplay that looks boring, it's the combat animation that seems to put a damper on things, for instance the attack animations appear very repetitive and I'm not sure at this time if that's because of people's unfamiliarity with the game or a glaring flaw. For instance are there multiple combat attack buttons and people who are trying the game demos are only favoring one attack or are all the attack animations working off one attack button? For a game like Arkham Asylum or Arkham City, there's really only one main attack button but the attack animations are often varied and contextual and everything still remains very fluid and stylish. For Ryse they hired some expert who understands ancient combat to assist with the combat animations, which IMO might have caused problems if he was the one doing the combat animation captures if he's never done anything like that before.

Regardless of whether it's great or just turns out to be an average game, I think the setting will attract people to play this kind of game. As long as it's not horrible I think it could attract a decent crowd, and maybe lead to a sequel in which they can improve on their design with.

#31 Edited by zeeshanhaider (2886 posts) -

Ah I think Crytek would have done much better if they let the Darksider's team handle the game design and the core Crytek team handle the programming/technical stuff.

#32 Posted by kuu2 (7967 posts) -

So he/she never played the game and didn't post any links to where people have actually played it. All we get is conjecture from Sony Fan about how bad the game is based on videos.

This is why Sony Fan are clowns in SW.

#33 Posted by RimacBugatti (1632 posts) -

I would say maybe a 2013 version of Swords of the Berzerk?

#34 Edited by NameIess_One (1077 posts) -

It looks boring enough as it is, so I really doubt a fantasy setting would help.

#35 Posted by danjammer69 (4147 posts) -

@2mrw said:

'The Romanian era looks interesting at the first glance..... '

While I get what you were trying to say, I just had to laugh when you said 'The Romanian Era'.

This is not a game about gypsies or dracula.

#36 Edited by tdkmillsy (1711 posts) -

Does anyone on these forums have a clue what the gameplay will be like???

It looks good, there are hints of a good single player game, multiplayer is where its suspect.

Its like saying Killzone will be a boring FPS offering nothing different. Nobody knows until you get it.

#37 Posted by SinjinSmythe (789 posts) -

@2mrw: this fails on so many damn ways. Instead of getting into it, just don't make anymore threads. Thank you for your cooperation.

#38 Posted by GravityX (865 posts) -

@2mrw: Ryse's main character is killed. And resurrected from the dead. Once he is resurrected he will have gifts or powers.

Use the internet peoples.

#39 Posted by megaspiderweb09 (3686 posts) -

I will be honest, the gameplay mechanic does not do the game justice. Like the game looks so brilliant, you cannot help but wonder why Crytek decided to go with an Arkham/GOW type game, it is not as fast as both so it does not give that action feel, if they wanted it to be slow and methological, they should have used something like Dark Souls/Dragons Dogma

#40 Posted by ImBatman- (1192 posts) -

I disagree. The main problem with Ryse is the gameplay. It's a shame since it's such a cool setting. I can't see how anyone could stand/sit playing this for more than 10 minutes.

It's pretty much Batman Arkham City but everything except for the combat is taken away. On top of it being extremely linear, even more linear than games like Uncharted. Even the combat is a bit more dumb downed than in Arkham City, and that's pretty terrible considering most of the gameplay consists of combat, unlike in Batman where there are many things to do.

Game looks pretty though.

#41 Posted by GhoX (5294 posts) -

Eh, this is a pretty poor thread. It all comes down to personal preference.

Although Ryse is certainly boring, and its gameplay destroyed any interest I had in the game, the Roman republic/empire setting is one of my favourites. It's why I managed to enjoy Rome 2 a lot more than Shogun 2, even though Shogun 2 is technically the superior game.

#42 Posted by bayboydray (113 posts) -

God your ignorant...so by watching the trailers everyone else has watched you know the entire inventory of RYSE? you know it wont have any magic crap in it how? You know the game will be boring how? How old are you is my question? judging by the amount of ignorance in your thread starting post... id hope you were a child so you could get a pass..if its idiots like you that we have to look forward to playing with on next gen consoles online communities then were in trouble. Id like my money back from my already bought and paid for PS4 and Xbox One and ill stick with my PC...wow!!

#43 Posted by Serial_Killa (0 posts) -

@Opus_Rea-333 said:

you really conviced me to cancel my Ryse preorder.

You pre-ordered Ryse?

#44 Edited by sukraj (23991 posts) -

@kingoflife9 said:

why are people so infatuated with this game?

My thoughts exactly they seem to be obessed with the game I've seen a few videos and the gameplay doesn't look boring I think the ones that keep bringing the same old stuff are the ones that are jealous because its a exclusive and it's not coming to a PS4.

#45 Edited by sts106mat (20425 posts) -

@2mrw said:

The Romanian era looks interesting at the first glance but the more I see, the less exciting it becomes, you will spend your time killing humans, one after another in the most boring fashions that we have been seeing.

Romanian?

Rome = Italy Ryse is set during Roman times

Romania = a completely different country

#46 Edited by 2mrw (5218 posts) -

@sts106mat said:

@2mrw said:

The Romanian era looks interesting at the first glance but the more I see, the less exciting it becomes, you will spend your time killing humans, one after another in the most boring fashions that we have been seeing.

Romanian?

Rome = Italy Ryse is set during Roman times

Romania = a completely different country

My bad, fixed

#47 Edited by StormyJoe (6560 posts) -

@2mrw said:

It will suck game play wise, and there is no way around it but what really kills the game is that it has no fantasy or magical stuff in it.

GOW is a close game that relies heavily on QTE and cinematics, and the main difference is GOW is set in a much more interesting world full of myths and magical creatures and Gods and this adds to the variety of the game which can make it easier to overlook the repetitiveness of the game.

The Roman era looks interesting at the first glance but the more I see, the less exciting it becomes, you will spend your time killing humans, one after another in the most boring fashions that we have been seeing.

Too sad that once a very good looking game is now nothing but a boring feast, even watching is boring.

It will not suck gameplay wise, and it is not a fantasy game.

Jesus, how jelly are you cows of Ryse? You never seem to stfu about it...

#48 Posted by sukraj (23991 posts) -

Too many haterz bashing the game they want to see the game fail.

#49 Posted by Heil68 (47232 posts) -

One less game I have to buy when I do buy the xbone I reckon.