The biggest strike against the XBox One

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#1 Posted by clone01 (24085 posts) -

So I got my XBox One yesterday. Very much enjoyed playing Dead Rising 3 Coop with a friend. Decided to play a little Deadlight after I got offline....

Um, no XBL Arcade, no Super Meat Boy, no Deadlight, no indie games channels. Nothing.

I personally don't hold any allegiances to any consoles. If it has games I like, I'll play it. Additionally, I knew going into this there would be no backwards compatibility. But I assumed that your digital download games would migrate. I think this is a terrible move by Microsoft. One of the things that made the 360 appealing for a lot of people was XBL arcade, and now its gone.

TLDR version: None of your XBL games transfer to the XBox One. WTF, Microsoft?!!! Hang on to your 360 if you want to keep playing them.

#2 Posted by Suppaman100 (3507 posts) -

Same with PS4, PSN games won't transfer. It's BS.

And : "I personally don't hold any allegiances to any consoles."

LMFAO

#3 Posted by freedomfreak (37971 posts) -

Yeah, I know. It sucks. You're gonna have to hang on to your 360/Ps3.

#4 Posted by Mr_Ditters (1905 posts) -

@clone01: Its the same thing for the PS4 too except Flower got ported over. No backwards compatibility because they want to extend the life of previous consoles and they also get to resell you the games you already bought.

Meanwhile in the world of PC, I can play my games from 20 years ago.

#5 Posted by clone01 (24085 posts) -

Same with PS4, PSN games won't transfer. It's BS.

And : "I personally don't hold any allegiances to any consoles."

LMFAO

I don't. If you look at my posting history, you'd realize this. And I have many times mentioned that I'm looking very forward to getting a PS4. Just not much of a Killzone fan. Infamous is a different story.

What's the point of holding an attachment to a piece of plastic? Is this the way you act in real life? I hope your actions are something you only do on forums. Because quite frankly, your behaviors are a detriment to the perception of gaming and gamers.

On topic, that's crap about both of them. I kind of figured they'd migrate over. I guess its a different architecture.

#6 Posted by heretrix (37227 posts) -

It's one of my main grievances about both consoles. I've invested a lot of money into both PSN and XBLA and I really don't like the idea of having to have 4 consoles set up at the same time. The should have been a solution for this.

#7 Posted by Suppaman100 (3507 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@Suppaman100 said:

Same with PS4, PSN games won't transfer. It's BS.

And : "I personally don't hold any allegiances to any consoles."

LMFAO

I don't. If you look at my posting history, you'd realize this. And I have many times mentioned that I'm looking very forward to getting a PS4. Just not much of a Killzone fan. Infamous is a different story.

What's the point of holding an attachment to a piece of plastic? Is this the way you act in real life? I hope your actions are something you only do on forums. Because quite frankly, your behaviors are a detriment to the perception of gaming and gamers.

On topic, that's crap about both of them. I kind of figured they'd migrate over. I guess its a different architecture.

Weren't you the guy that was on constant butthurt mode by calling me "nintailedgoku",... when I was criticizing the Xbone?

I still think you're a lemming, although not a massive one.

#8 Posted by clone01 (24085 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@Suppaman100 said:

Same with PS4, PSN games won't transfer. It's BS.

And : "I personally don't hold any allegiances to any consoles."

LMFAO

I don't. If you look at my posting history, you'd realize this. And I have many times mentioned that I'm looking very forward to getting a PS4. Just not much of a Killzone fan. Infamous is a different story.

What's the point of holding an attachment to a piece of plastic? Is this the way you act in real life? I hope your actions are something you only do on forums. Because quite frankly, your behaviors are a detriment to the perception of gaming and gamers.

On topic, that's crap about both of them. I kind of figured they'd migrate over. I guess its a different architecture.

Weren't you the guy that was on constant butthurt mode by calling me "nintailedgoku",... when I was criticizing the Xbone?

I still think you're a lemming, although not a massive one.

I don't know. I suspect. Your actions and posting style are massively similar. That's where the suspicion comes from. It has nothing to do with whether or not you like the XBox One. That's your prerogative.

If you think I'm a lemming, so be it. That really doesn't make it true.

#9 Edited by Basinboy (10899 posts) -

PS4 is the same way. Plus this was public info, you have nobody to blame but you.

#10 Edited by Telekill (4158 posts) -

@Mr_Ditters: You can play games from 20 years ago? Because I can't. The switch to Vista mass anything that runs on Win 98 or less unplayable. I tried.

#11 Edited by Mr_Ditters (1905 posts) -

@Telekill: Just last year I tried out a game I bought in high school. Worked flawlessly. Some of those games are on 7 floppy disks and aren't worth the effort, but chances are there is someone who has figured out away to make them work, e.g. dos emulator.

Also make sure you ran it in win 98 compatibility mode.

#12 Edited by _Matt_ (8737 posts) -

Sadly yeah they don't transfer. And aside from a few games like Flower, Sound Shapes, and maybe one or two others that you get for free if you already had it on PS3, it's exactly the same on PS4.

#13 Edited by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

you knew it was not backwards compatible, but assumed the xbox live arcade library would be there?

you're not the first to say this, I've seen it before.

All those Xbox Live Arcade games are designed to run on a PPC machine, the Xbox 360.

#14 Posted by gameofthering (9915 posts) -

This is why I only go digital on the PC and physical for Consoles/Handhelds.

#15 Posted by clone01 (24085 posts) -

@Basinboy:

You're right. I assumed. I mean, I'll buy both anyway. Just kind of a surprise that wasn't too thrilled with.

#16 Posted by Midnightshade29 (5207 posts) -

Same with PS4, PSN games won't transfer. It's BS.

And : "I personally don't hold any allegiances to any consoles."

LMFAO

Sounds Shapes, Flower and soon Escape Plan all have ps4 versions updated in 1080p with added effects like the light bar and speaker stuff and there is no additional cost if you already own them.

As for Psn games, already has resogun, contrast and super motherload on day 1.

#17 Posted by treedoor (7478 posts) -

Yep, no backwards compatibility on either console.

It sucks.

#18 Posted by Zidaneski (8432 posts) -

Aren't both Sony and MS going to try streaming old games on the new consoles in the future?

#19 Posted by uninspiredcup (6535 posts) -

At the moment, micro transactions. It's pretty clear Microsoft from the get go want to set this as the standard.
This is of course the best opportunity to try take people for a ride.

#20 Posted by MajesticShea (695 posts) -
@clone01 said:

So I got my XBox One yesterday.

Your Mistake.

Also, blog it.

#21 Posted by AM-Gamer (3279 posts) -

The lack of backwards compatibility on both platforms is ridiculous.

#22 Posted by clone01 (24085 posts) -

@clone01 said:

So I got my XBox One yesterday.

Your Mistake.

Also, blog it.

Nah. Don't you have some more shirtless selfies to take? This internet thing is really interfering with your self-absorption, I'd say.

Sure did enjoy Dead Rising 3 yesterday. Its good to not be a fanboy and enjoy games for what they are. You might want to try it sometime.

#23 Posted by clone01 (24085 posts) -

@AM-Gamer said:

The lack of backwards compatibility on both platforms is ridiculous.

The "official" answer from both camps seems to be cost. They are looking at streaming solutions via the Gaikai service and the Cloud, but nothing concrete yet.

#24 Posted by menes777 (2643 posts) -

@clone01: Its the same thing for the PS4 too except Flower got ported over. No backwards compatibility because they want to extend the life of previous consoles and they also get to resell you the games you already bought.

Meanwhile in the world of PC, I can play my games from 20 years ago.

Pretty much this...

#25 Posted by MajesticShea (695 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@majesticshea said:
@clone01 said:

So I got my XBox One yesterday.

Your Mistake.

Also, blog it.

Nah. Don't you have some more shirtless selfies to take? This internet thing is really interfering with your self-absorption, I'd say.

Sure did enjoy Dead Rising 3 yesterday. Its good to not be a fanboy and enjoy games for what they are. You might want to try it sometime.

Bringing up something unrelated to insult someone.

Damn you're mad.

#26 Posted by clone01 (24085 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@majesticshea said:
@clone01 said:

So I got my XBox One yesterday.

Your Mistake.

Also, blog it.

Nah. Don't you have some more shirtless selfies to take? This internet thing is really interfering with your self-absorption, I'd say.

Sure did enjoy Dead Rising 3 yesterday. Its good to not be a fanboy and enjoy games for what they are. You might want to try it sometime.

Bringing up something unrelated to insult someone.

Damn you're mad.

Huh? It was a legit question. You obviously are very proud of yourself, and feel the need to share it with a bunch of dudes on the internet.

Again, its good to not be a fanboy and enjoy the games made by the talented people who created them rather than be handcuffed to a piece of plastic.

#27 Posted by MajesticShea (695 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@majesticshea said:

@clone01 said:

@majesticshea said:
@clone01 said:

So I got my XBox One yesterday.

Your Mistake.

Also, blog it.

Nah. Don't you have some more shirtless selfies to take? This internet thing is really interfering with your self-absorption, I'd say.

Sure did enjoy Dead Rising 3 yesterday. Its good to not be a fanboy and enjoy games for what they are. You might want to try it sometime.

Bringing up something unrelated to insult someone.

Damn you're mad.

Huh? It was a legit question. You obviously are very proud of yourself, and feel the need to share it with a bunch of dudes on the internet.

Again, its good to not be a fanboy and enjoy the games made by the talented people who created them rather than be handcuffed to a piece of plastic.

Why wouldn't I be? If you can't be proud of yourself; then your existence is living up to it's potential.

And If that's what you call a legit question, I question your social competence.

#28 Posted by clone01 (24085 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@majesticshea said:

@clone01 said:

@majesticshea said:
@clone01 said:

So I got my XBox One yesterday.

Your Mistake.

Also, blog it.

Nah. Don't you have some more shirtless selfies to take? This internet thing is really interfering with your self-absorption, I'd say.

Sure did enjoy Dead Rising 3 yesterday. Its good to not be a fanboy and enjoy games for what they are. You might want to try it sometime.

Bringing up something unrelated to insult someone.

Damn you're mad.

Huh? It was a legit question. You obviously are very proud of yourself, and feel the need to share it with a bunch of dudes on the internet.

Again, its good to not be a fanboy and enjoy the games made by the talented people who created them rather than be handcuffed to a piece of plastic.

Why wouldn't I be? If you can't be proud of yourself; then your existence is living up to it's potential.

And If that's what you call a legit question, I question your social competence.

I wouldn't be. You need to work on your delts, bra. And show your face. Why so ashamed, brotato chips. Lets get some more selfies from you, because we all need more selfies on the internet.

So nice to not be a fanboy. But again, your choice of plastic apparently constitutes your social identity.

#29 Posted by charizard1605 (54090 posts) -

Funny that Nintendo of all companies got this right.

#30 Posted by clone01 (24085 posts) -

Funny that Nintendo of all companies got this right.

I'm actually going to pick up a WiiU now that Super Mario 3D is out.

#31 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (3203 posts) -

So lame.

#32 Posted by Couth_ (9908 posts) -

PSN games don't migrate either but that's the reason the PS4 indie support is huge

#33 Posted by charizard1605 (54090 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@charizard1605 said:

Funny that Nintendo of all companies got this right.

I'm actually going to pick up a WiiU now that Super Mario 3D is out.

Yeah, same. I thought I wouldn't, but I underestimated my weakness for Mario and Zelda, I guess.

#34 Posted by lamprey263 (22287 posts) -

it would be nice if they got working versions on the new console and allowed for rights to work with the new console upgrade... won't happen though

#35 Edited by MajesticShea (695 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@majesticshea said:

@clone01 said:

@majesticshea said:

@clone01 said:

@majesticshea said:
@clone01 said:

So I got my XBox One yesterday.

Your Mistake.

Also, blog it.

Nah. Don't you have some more shirtless selfies to take? This internet thing is really interfering with your self-absorption, I'd say.

Sure did enjoy Dead Rising 3 yesterday. Its good to not be a fanboy and enjoy games for what they are. You might want to try it sometime.

Bringing up something unrelated to insult someone.

Damn you're mad.

Huh? It was a legit question. You obviously are very proud of yourself, and feel the need to share it with a bunch of dudes on the internet.

Again, its good to not be a fanboy and enjoy the games made by the talented people who created them rather than be handcuffed to a piece of plastic.

Why wouldn't I be? If you can't be proud of yourself; then your existence is living up to it's potential.

And If that's what you call a legit question, I question your social competence.

I wouldn't be. You need to work on your delts, bra. And show your face. Why so ashamed, brotato chips. Lets get some more selfies from you, because we all need more selfies on the internet.

So nice to not be a fanboy. But again, your choice of plastic apparently constitutes your social identity.

Man you are sad, but please continue to infer things.

#36 Edited by clone01 (24085 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@charizard1605 said:

Funny that Nintendo of all companies got this right.

I'm actually going to pick up a WiiU now that Super Mario 3D is out.

Yeah, same. I thought I wouldn't, but I underestimated my weakness for Mario and Zelda, I guess.

They're great franchises. Nothing wrong with that.

#37 Posted by clone01 (24085 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@majesticshea said:

@clone01 said:

@majesticshea said:

@clone01 said:

@majesticshea said:
@clone01 said:

So I got my XBox One yesterday.

Your Mistake.

Also, blog it.

Nah. Don't you have some more shirtless selfies to take? This internet thing is really interfering with your self-absorption, I'd say.

Sure did enjoy Dead Rising 3 yesterday. Its good to not be a fanboy and enjoy games for what they are. You might want to try it sometime.

Bringing up something unrelated to insult someone.

Damn you're mad.

Huh? It was a legit question. You obviously are very proud of yourself, and feel the need to share it with a bunch of dudes on the internet.

Again, its good to not be a fanboy and enjoy the games made by the talented people who created them rather than be handcuffed to a piece of plastic.

Why wouldn't I be? If you can't be proud of yourself; then your existence is living up to it's potential.

And If that's what you call a legit question, I question your social competence.

I wouldn't be. You need to work on your delts, bra. And show your face. Why so ashamed, brotato chips. Lets get some more selfies from you, because we all need more selfies on the internet.

So nice to not be a fanboy. But again, your choice of plastic apparently constitutes your social identity.

Man you are sad, but please continue to infer things.

Buddy, your tris need some work. Get back to that gym, stat bro. Like you said, you're cut a f*ck and 170 lbs. Where are some more selfies for all us dudes? C'mon man, don't leave us hangin'.

Pretty cool to not be a fanboy. Really enjoyed the hell out of Dead Rising 3. Infamous: Second Son will be awesome, too. Must suck to miss out, amirite?

#38 Edited by Basinboy (10899 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@Basinboy:

You're right. I assumed. I mean, I'll buy both anyway. Just kind of a surprise that wasn't too thrilled with.

True enough. Even though they dealt the truth up front, still sucks.

Interested to see where Gaikai streaming goes and to what extent it works. I'm getting Google Fiber installed next week, so if it isn't good for me it's likely not good at all. Can't wait to try it out.

#39 Posted by Bigboi500 (28791 posts) -

I thought all that was common knowledge.

#40 Edited by magicalclick (22169 posts) -

They merged 60 games and 20 dollar games in the same online store. So, the arcade games are indeed there, even though there are only like 2 or 3 arcade games right now. And yeah, those Avatar Laser Tag games and all those Craft variants cannot be found in the store. I am guessing it will take them at least a year to setup the indie channels. So, yeah, you are stuck with Games On Demand and Arcade games. Although most people don't care about indie channel. It is hard to attract people when their quality is usually school project grade, which is likely to be true of many of those games.

#41 Edited by getyeryayasout (6813 posts) -

@clone01: It's one of the reasons I'm not that excited to move to the next gen systems. It seems like a natural progression to be able to migrate and play XBLA/PSN games on the new systems, but nope! Wanna play the 100's of digital only titles you bought last gen? Suck it, hold on to your old systems! Thanks MS. Thanks Sony.

#42 Posted by clone01 (24085 posts) -

I thought all that was common knowledge.

Apparently it was. Guess I just missed it.

#43 Posted by Tessellation (8791 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@majesticshea said:
@clone01 said:

So I got my XBox One yesterday.

Your Mistake.

Also, blog it.

Nah. Don't you have some more shirtless selfies to take? This internet thing is really interfering with your self-absorption, I'd say.

Sure did enjoy Dead Rising 3 yesterday. Its good to not be a fanboy and enjoy games for what they are. You might want to try it sometime.

lol bandodger owned.

#44 Edited by Blabadon (25108 posts) -

Funny that Nintendo of all companies got this right.

They were always good at doing things backwards.

#45 Edited by Icarian (1462 posts) -

This was announced awhile back that PSN and Live games won't transfer to new consoles. There is no backwards compatibility.

#46 Posted by Truth_Hurts_U (9049 posts) -

Just think... XBO has so much crap that is "custom", they will not have backwards compat yet again for the next gen.

While Sony on the other hand went 100% simplistic with the APU... That next gen there is no reason at all for them to not have BC.

#47 Edited by tormentos (16278 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@Suppaman100 said:

Same with PS4, PSN games won't transfer. It's BS.

And : "I personally don't hold any allegiances to any consoles."

LMFAO

I don't. If you look at my posting history, you'd realize this. And I have many times mentioned that I'm looking very forward to getting a PS4. Just not much of a Killzone fan. Infamous is a different story.

What's the point of holding an attachment to a piece of plastic? Is this the way you act in real life? I hope your actions are something you only do on forums. Because quite frankly, your behaviors are a detriment to the perception of gaming and gamers.

On topic, that's crap about both of them. I kind of figured they'd migrate over. I guess its a different architecture.

Weren't you the guy that was on constant butthurt mode by calling me "nintailedgoku",... when I was criticizing the Xbone?

I still think you're a lemming, although not a massive one.

Yes he was he is most obsessed with new posters,specially if they like the PS,he rarely make arguments in favor of the PS and most his arguments were defending the xbox 360 and xbox live to.

We call him the gamertag inspector..haha watch him now call me eltormo..hahaha

#48 Posted by tormentos (16278 posts) -

Just think... XBO has so much crap that is "custom", they will not have backwards compat yet again for the next gen.

While Sony on the other hand went 100% simplistic with the APU... That next gen there is no reason at all for them to not have BC.

I think sony will have backward some kind of backward compatibility with the PS3 by gakai,because i don't see that weak Jaguar emulating Cell in a million years is to weak.

#49 Posted by conkertheking1 (833 posts) -

Wow! Another thing Nintendo did right this gen. Score one for Wii U

#50 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (42494 posts) -

There is no XBLA anymore, it's all been generalized under "games" with no differentiation.