Tales Games Staying on Playstation, Xbox is out of luck

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#1 Edited by Whiteblade999 (5542 posts) -

http://www.gamingangels.com/2013/11/interview-with-tales-of-producer-hideo-baba-at-new-york-comic-con/

VB: Are there currently any Tales games in development for the Playstation 4? Will there ever be any plans to bring the series to X-Box One?

HB: Yes, we are currently in the very early phases of work for next generation Playstation titles! But we still have no plans to bring the series back to the X-Box, or X-Box One. We feel that our core fanbase leans toward the Playstation 3/Playstation 4, so we are focusing our efforts on bringing the best possible Tales experience there!

Makes sense given how well the Tales games sell on Playstation consoles compared to Xbox, still sucks for the Lemmings that liked Vesperia and wanted to get more of them.

#2 Posted by Samus3D (1675 posts) -

But didn't Baba say no Tales for Wii U because the install base wasn't big enough yet he's already planning for the PS4 with an zero install base? Tales has been mediocre as of late anyways, but bring a Symphonia quality Tales like you did on the Gamecube and it should sell well.

#3 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28454 posts) -

Not really interested in yearly tale releases where the prime mechanic is scantly clad 12 year old girls.

#4 Posted by lamprey263 (24684 posts) -

only weeaboo cows that shit green tea mochi care

#6 Posted by Sserv (803 posts) -

@WilliamRLBaker said:

Not really interested in yearly tale releases where the prime mechanic is scantly clad 12 year old girls.

Are you really this ignorant?

#7 Posted by Bigboi500 (30418 posts) -

Because Xbrahs only like bald space marines and sweaty athletes.

#8 Edited by SuperCowElitist (730 posts) -

I'm not surprise. Lemmings only play shooters. Us cows play all sorts of games! We play JRPG. WRPG. FPS. TPS. Interactive games and many more!

#9 Posted by Heil68 (46146 posts) -

Sounds goof to me. Love the series.

#10 Posted by navyguy21 (13045 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

Sounds goof to me. Love the series.

Sounds goof to me too :P

On topic: Nobody bought it on Xbox anyway lol

#11 Posted by Heil68 (46146 posts) -

@navyguy21 said:

@Heil68 said:

Sounds goof to me. Love the series.

Sounds goof to me too :P

On topic: Nobody bought it on Xbox anyway lol

bah, I'm on the road to pick up my PS4. :D

#12 Edited by Krelian-co (12089 posts) -

in b4 lems "dont care", oh wait.

#13 Posted by iambatman7986 (538 posts) -

Ready for more Tales.

#14 Posted by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@navyguy21 said:

@Heil68 said:

Sounds goof to me. Love the series.

Sounds goof to me too :P

On topic: Nobody bought it on Xbox anyway lol

People did buy it on Xbox...........Just not in Japan, which is where the majority of the Tales fanbase is.

As far as western releases, Symphonia is the only one that outsold Vesperia. None of the Playstation Tales games have outsold Vesperia in the west.

It's all about dat Japan.

#15 Posted by XxR3m1xInHDn3D (1967 posts) -

@Krelian-co said:

in b4 lems "dont care", oh wait.

According to cows all lems play are bro games so why would you think they care?

#16 Edited by blackace (21234 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

@navyguy21 said:

@Heil68 said:

Sounds goof to me. Love the series.

Sounds goof to me too :P

On topic: Nobody bought it on Xbox anyway lol

bah, I'm on the road to pick up my PS4. :D

LOL!! Me too in another 30 mins. Tale games are on Wii & Wii U too, so I don't think many people care about this.

#17 Posted by cainetao11 (18351 posts) -

@Bigboi500 said:

Because Xbrahs only like bald space marines and sweaty athletes.

What's the top selling game on both console brands? Oh yeah.

#18 Edited by xhawk27 (7391 posts) -

Rehash old tired game mechanics not on the Xbox One.... Who Cares!

#19 Edited by Sweenix (5399 posts) -

@treedoor said:

@navyguy21 said:

@Heil68 said:

Sounds goof to me. Love the series.

Sounds goof to me too :P

On topic: Nobody bought it on Xbox anyway lol

People did buy it on Xbox...........Just not in Japan, which is where the majority of the Tales fanbase is.

As far as western releases, Symphonia is the only one that outsold Vesperia. None of the Playstation Tales games have outsold Vesperia in the west.

It's all about dat Japan.

Tales of xillia on ps3 sold much better in the west, then vesperia did on 360, should check your facts :)

#20 Posted by Whiteblade999 (5542 posts) -

@cainetao11:

@cainetao11 said:

@Bigboi500 said:

Because Xbrahs only like bald space marines and sweaty athletes.

What's the top selling game on both console brands? Oh yeah.

Something that isn't about bald space marines or sweaty athletes.

#21 Posted by cainetao11 (18351 posts) -

@Whiteblade999 said:

@cainetao11:

@cainetao11 said:

@Bigboi500 said:

Because Xbrahs only like bald space marines and sweaty athletes.

What's the top selling game on both console brands? Oh yeah.

Something that isn't about bald space marines or sweaty athletes.

But it is "dude bro"

#22 Edited by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@Sweenix said:

@treedoor said:

@navyguy21 said:

@Heil68 said:

Sounds goof to me. Love the series.

Sounds goof to me too :P

On topic: Nobody bought it on Xbox anyway lol

People did buy it on Xbox...........Just not in Japan, which is where the majority of the Tales fanbase is.

As far as western releases, Symphonia is the only one that outsold Vesperia. None of the Playstation Tales games have outsold Vesperia in the west.

It's all about dat Japan.

Tales of xillia on ps3 sold much better in the west, then vesperia did on 360, should check your facts :)

Much better?

Estimates have Vesperia at 280k in the US alone, and about 480k in the west (in total). Compare that to Xillia's 250k total in the west.

#23 Edited by Sweenix (5399 posts) -

@treedoor said:

@Sweenix said:

@treedoor said:

@navyguy21 said:

@Heil68 said:

Sounds goof to me. Love the series.

Sounds goof to me too :P

On topic: Nobody bought it on Xbox anyway lol

People did buy it on Xbox...........Just not in Japan, which is where the majority of the Tales fanbase is.

As far as western releases, Symphonia is the only one that outsold Vesperia. None of the Playstation Tales games have outsold Vesperia in the west.

It's all about dat Japan.

Tales of xillia on ps3 sold much better in the west, then vesperia did on 360, should check your facts :)

Much better?

Estimates have Vesperia at 280k in the US alone, and about 480k in the west (in total). Compare that to Xillia's 250k total in the west.

Those are vgchartz numbers, Vesperia only sold 32k units in it's launch week in north america (source), while xillia sold over 100k in north america, within it's launch week (source)

So how can you say no ps3 tales game have outsold vesperia when xillia outsold it.. by 3x

#25 Edited by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@Sweenix said:

Those are vgchartz numbers, vespera only sold 38k units in it's launch week in north america, while xillia sold over 100k in north america, within it's launch week

So xillia did over 3x vesperia's numbers in america.

Xillia sold 100k in its first month, not in its first week.

#26 Posted by Sweenix (5399 posts) -

@treedoor said:

@Sweenix said:

Those are vgchartz numbers, vespera only sold 38k units in it's launch week in north america, while xillia sold over 100k in north america, within it's launch week

So xillia did over 3x vesperia's numbers in america.

Xillia sold 100k in its first month, not in its first week.

That doesn't mean anything, vesperia's npd numbers were for the month of august, while xillia was also for the month of august

So regardless, xillia still outsold vesperia by 3x in north america, even tales of graces f did better. "58k"

#27 Edited by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@Sweenix said:

@treedoor said:

@Sweenix said:

Those are vgchartz numbers, vespera only sold 38k units in it's launch week in north america, while xillia sold over 100k in north america, within it's launch week

So xillia did over 3x vesperia's numbers in america.

Xillia sold 100k in its first month, not in its first week.

That doesn't mean anything, vesperia's npd numbers were for the month of august, while xillia was also for the month of august

So regardless, xillia still outsold vesperia by 3x in north america, even tales of graces f did better. "58k"

The difference is that Vesperia release on August 26 giving it 4 days of sales for NPD

Xillia launched on August 6th giving it 24 days.

And an additional difference to note is the install base of each console at the time of release. PS3 has sold roughly 27 million in the US (at the time of Xillia's release) compared to the 360s 12 million at the time of Vesperia's release.

#28 Edited by Sweenix (5399 posts) -

@treedoor said:

@Sweenix said:

@treedoor said:

@Sweenix said:

Those are vgchartz numbers, vespera only sold 38k units in it's launch week in north america, while xillia sold over 100k in north america, within it's launch week

So xillia did over 3x vesperia's numbers in america.

Xillia sold 100k in its first month, not in its first week.

That doesn't mean anything, vesperia's npd numbers were for the month of august, while xillia was also for the month of august

So regardless, xillia still outsold vesperia by 3x in north america, even tales of graces f did better. "58k"

The difference is that Vesperia release on August 26 giving it 4 days of sales for NPD

Xillia launched on August 6th giving it 24 days.

And an additional difference to note is the install base of each console at the time of release. PS3 has sold roughly 27 million in the US (at the time of Xillia's release) compared to the 360s 12 million at the time of Vesperia's release.

You should know most of the sales come from the first week, and even if you count the next month, vesperia is still far far behind.

And i know there is an install base difference, but that isn't the question, you said no ps3 tales game outsold vesperia, which was wrong.

That was the question.

#29 Posted by cainetao11 (18351 posts) -

@Sweenix: Wrong*. That's how it should be noted. Install base plays a major part.

#30 Posted by Sweenix (5399 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

@Sweenix: Wrong*. That's how it should be noted. Install base plays a major part.

I wasn't arguing that install base doesn't play a part, I'm just proving the statement was wrong, which it was.

#31 Posted by cainetao11 (18351 posts) -

@Sweenix said:

@cainetao11 said:

@Sweenix: Wrong*. That's how it should be noted. Install base plays a major part.

I wasn't arguing that install base doesn't play a part, I'm just proving the statement was wrong, which it was.

And I agree. I go asterisk because I'm a sports junky.

#33 Edited by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@Sweenix said:

You should know most of the sales come from the first week, and even if you count the next month, vesperia is still far far behind.

If you count the next month that puts it at about 80k. That's not "far far behind" the 100k of Xillia by any means, especially when you consider the install bases of each console at the time of each Tales release, and when you consider that Vesperia was the first Tales game to ever hit an Xbox console (meaning the fanbase wasn't there to begin with).

The game sold very well considering the circumstances. If you just want to simply assume that all sales for Vesperia stopped after September of 2008 then go ahead, and if you want to claim victory over a 20k difference in sales on a console with over twice the userbase, then go ahead with that as well.

Vesperia sold well on the 360 in the West. Simple as that. The reason Tales games are staying on Playstation is because of Japan.

Tales of Vesperia first week Japan sales - 108k

Tales of Xillia first week Japan sales - 526k

Half a million games all sold at full price in the first week, and reached 740k two months later source

A Tales game on Playstation in Japan alone can practically outsell a Tales game on Xbox worldwide. That's why Tales games are staying on Playstation. They aren't staying on Playstation because of a "20k difference" in the US.

#34 Posted by Sweenix (5399 posts) -

@treedoor said:

@Sweenix said:

You should know most of the sales come from the first week, and even if you count the next month, vesperia is still far far behind.

If you count the next month that puts it at about 80k. That's not "far far behind" the 100k of Xillia by any means, especially when you consider the install bases of each console at the time of each Tales release, and when you consider that Vesperia was the first Tales game to ever hit an Xbox console (meaning the fanbase wasn't there to begin with).

The game sold very well considering the circumstances. If you just want to simply assume that all sales for Vesperia stopped after September of 2008 then go ahead, and if you want to claim victory over a 20k difference in sales on a console with over twice the userbase, then go ahead with that as well.

Vesperia sold well on the 360 in the West. Simple as that. The reason Tales games are staying on Playstation is because of Japan.

Tales of Vesperia first week Japan sales - 108k

Tales of Xillia first week Japan sales - 526k

Half a million games all sold at full price in the first week, and reached 740k two months later source

A Tales game on Playstation in Japan alone can practically outsell a Tales game on Xbox worldwide. That's why Tales games are staying on Playstation. They aren't staying on Playstation because of a "20k difference" in the US.

80k? do you have a source for that? and yes tales game's are staying on playstation because of japan, but the fact that ps3 tales sell better then xbox tales, is the reason why it won't become multiplatform in the west, nor will it come there.

And the whole vesperia was the first tales game on xbox is a silly argument, because tales of symphonia was the first tales game on a nintendo console, and look how well that sold, the reason why vesperia sold badly is because xbox gamers don't buy jrpg's.

#35 Edited by Ballroompirate (23469 posts) -

I really wish ToV made it to the PS3 (state side) :(. ToV and ToX are the only tales games I liked.

#36 Edited by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@Sweenix said:

80k? do you have a source for that? and yes tales game's are staying on playstation because of japan, but the fact that ps3 tales sell better then xbox tales, is the reason why it won't become multiplatform in the west, nor will it come there.

And the whole vesperia was the first tales game on xbox is a silly argument, because tales of symphonia was the first tales game on a nintendo console, and look how well that sold, the reason why vesperia sold badly is because xbox gamers don't buy jrpg's.

I made a mistake. Vesperia sold 37k in the following monthif either of these sources mean anything (source and source), so 70k total.

And again. That's 70k in roughly the same amount of time on a system with less than half the userbase of the PS3 at the respective time of release for each Tales game.

Vesperia didn't sell badly on the 360 in the west, nor did the other JRPGs it got. The market just simply isn't there IN JAPAN where the vast majority of revenue comes from for Japanese RPG developers.

You base your entire argument around assumptions.

You should look up some lifetime Western sales figures of PS3 JRPGs against the 360s JRPGs. I'm sure it'd open your eyes a bit.

#37 Edited by Sweenix (5399 posts) -

@treedoor said:

@Sweenix said:

80k? do you have a source for that? and yes tales game's are staying on playstation because of japan, but the fact that ps3 tales sell better then xbox tales, is the reason why it won't become multiplatform in the west, nor will it come there.

And the whole vesperia was the first tales game on xbox is a silly argument, because tales of symphonia was the first tales game on a nintendo console, and look how well that sold, the reason why vesperia sold badly is because xbox gamers don't buy jrpg's.

I made a mistake. Vesperia sold 37k in the following monthif either of these sources mean anything (source and source), so 70k total.

And again. That's 70k in roughly the same amount of time on a system with less than half the userbase of the PS3 at the respective time of release for each Tales game.

Vesperia didn't sell badly on the 360 in the west, nor did the other JRPGs it got. The market just simply isn't there IN JAPAN where the vast majority of revenue comes from for Japanese RPG developers.

You base your entire argument around assumptions.

You should look up some lifetime Western sales figures of PS3 JRPGs against the 360s JRPGs. I'm sure it'd open your eyes a bit.

Look at Ni No Kuni? which sold over 150k in it's first month and 50k the next month.. usa alone, or tales of xillia? or final fantasy 13 which sold much better on the ps3 in the west, and final fantasy 13-2 also.

I'm not trying to bring up an argument, but ps3 fans buy jrpg's more then xbox fans, the sales numbers are there to prove it,

#38 Edited by AtariKidX (6316 posts) -

Good.....very good.

#39 Edited by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@Sweenix said:

Look at Ni No Kuni? which sold over 150k in it's first month and 50k the next month.. usa alone, or tales of xillia? or final fantasy 13 which sold much better on the ps3 in the west, and final fantasy 13-2 also.

I'm not trying to bring up an argument, but ps3 fans buy jrpg's more then xbox fans, the sales numbers are there to prove it,

So you aren't going to look up lifetime sales numbers and compare? Just still basing your argument off assumptions I see.

Sure, Final Fantasy sold more on PS3 than Xbox. That's a given considering Final Fantasy is a huge Playstation brand (and was assumed exclusive to the PS3 for the longest time).

But if your argument is based on first month sales of games releasing on platforms with WILDLY different userbase numbers (at the time of different game releases) then your argument fails.

You should actually compare LIFETIME sales. Don't compare first month sales of games on a platform with 27 million users to first month sales of games on a platform with 12 million users.

Compare LIFETIME. Vesperia did not stop selling after September 2008. I can assure you that. Heck, we could even breakdown the numbers.

12 million Xbox owners when Tales of Vesperia released. Sold 70k in 35 days or about 2,000 per day.

27 million PS3 owners when Tales of Xillia released. Sold 100k in 24 days, or about 4,166 per day

27/12 = 2.25 PS3s for every 1 Xbox 360 at the time of each games' release

4166/2000 = 2.083 Tales of Xillia copies sold for every 1 copy of Tales of Vesperia.

So Tales of Vesperia actually sold at a FASTER rate given the amount of potential buyers, and it's had 5 years more time on the market.

This is why it's so stupid of you to compare first month sales data of games releasing on consoles with wildly different userbase numbers.

#40 Posted by finalstar2007 (25463 posts) -

And that is why i shall be getting only the PS4 this gen because i believe just like the PS3 the PS4 will finish with an amazing exclusive line up while the xbox will always stay empty like a desert exactly like how it is right now with the xbox360 lol

#41 Edited by Samus3D (1675 posts) -

Tales of Smyphonia on Gamecube sold more than Tales of the Abyss PS2 (0.57) and Legendia (0.50m). The Abyss 3DS port even sold 0.55m so why can't they make an exclusive Tales game for 3DS? Given how fire the system is in Japan, that would sell like crazy but they want to focus on the PS4?

I wouldn't want Graces F Xillia garbage though, make an Phantasia quality game.

#42 Posted by Sweenix (5399 posts) -

@treedoor said:

@Sweenix said:

Look at Ni No Kuni? which sold over 150k in it's first month and 50k the next month.. usa alone, or tales of xillia? or final fantasy 13 which sold much better on the ps3 in the west, and final fantasy 13-2 also.

I'm not trying to bring up an argument, but ps3 fans buy jrpg's more then xbox fans, the sales numbers are there to prove it,

So you aren't going to look up lifetime sales numbers and compare? Just still basing your argument off assumptions I see.

Sure, Final Fantasy sold more on PS3 than Xbox. That's a given considering Final Fantasy is a huge Playstation brand (and was assumed exclusive to the PS3 for the longest time).

But if your argument is based on first month sales of games releasing on platforms with WILDLY different userbase numbers (at the time of different game releases) then your argument fails.

You should actually compare LIFETIME sales. Don't compare first month sales of games on a platform with 27 million users to first month sales of games on a platform with 12 million users.

Compare LIFETIME. Vesperia did not stop selling after September 2008. I can assure you that. Heck, we could even breakdown the numbers.

12 million Xbox owners when Tales of Vesperia released. Sold 70k in 35 days or about 2,000 per day.

27 million PS3 owners when Tales of Xillia released. Sold 100k in 24 days, or about 4,166 per day

27/12 = 2.25 PS3s for every 1 Xbox 360 at the time of each games' release

4166/2000 = 2.083 Tales of Xillia copies sold for every 1 copy of Tales of Vesperia.

So Tales of Vesperia actually sold at a FASTER rate given the amount of potential buyers, and it's had 5 years more time on the market.

This is why it's so stupid of you to compare first month sales data of games releasing on consoles with wildly different userbase numbers.

The reason why i'm comparing xillia's first month numbers to vesperia is because xillia has only been out for a few months, comparing 5 years to 2 and a half months is hardly fair, and i wouldn't be surprised if xillia's 2 and a half months > Vesperia's 5 years.

And stop using the userbase as an excuse.

#43 Edited by Sagem28 (10498 posts) -

Have both Symphonia and Xillia 2 on pre order !

My body is ready.

#44 Posted by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@Sweenix said:

The reason why i'm comparing xillia's first month numbers to vesperia is because xillia has only been out for a few months, comparing 5 years to 2 and a half months is hardly fair, and i wouldn't be surprised if xillia's 2 and a half months > Vesperia's 5 years.

And stop using the userbase as an excuse.

And exactly why is pointing out the userbase not a valid excuse exactly?

You think Tales of Vesperia have sold 100k in its first month if it had instead released on the PS3 when the PS3 had 12 million unit sales in the USA?

#45 Edited by Sweenix (5399 posts) -

@treedoor said:

@Sweenix said:

The reason why i'm comparing xillia's first month numbers to vesperia is because xillia has only been out for a few months, comparing 5 years to 2 and a half months is hardly fair, and i wouldn't be surprised if xillia's 2 and a half months > Vesperia's 5 years.

And stop using the userbase as an excuse.

And exactly why is pointing out the userbase not a valid excuse exactly?

You think Tales of Vesperia have sold 100k in its first month if it had instead released on the PS3 when the PS3 had 12 million unit sales in the USA?

No, but it would have sold better then the 360 version

#46 Posted by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@Sweenix said:

@treedoor said:

@Sweenix said:

The reason why i'm comparing xillia's first month numbers to vesperia is because xillia has only been out for a few months, comparing 5 years to 2 and a half months is hardly fair, and i wouldn't be surprised if xillia's 2 and a half months > Vesperia's 5 years.

And stop using the userbase as an excuse.

And exactly why is pointing out the userbase not a valid excuse exactly?

You think Tales of Vesperia have sold 100k in its first month if it had instead released on the PS3 when the PS3 had 12 million unit sales in the USA?

No, but it would have sold better then the 360 version

Assumptions

That's literally your entire argument.

Your mindset of "360 is teh dudebro shooterbox lol" keeps you from seeing that Vesperia actually sold really well in the west (2nd best of the entire Tales series behind Symphonia), and every other JRPG on the Xbox sold reasonably well in the west in comparison to JRPGs found on other consoles.

I provide numbers, you provide assumptions. I provide logical reasoning, you provide more assumptions.

Just take a step back, realize that being a fanboy is unhealthy, and graduate from that mindset.

#47 Posted by finalstar2007 (25463 posts) -

@treedoor said:

@Sweenix said:

@treedoor said:

@Sweenix said:

The reason why i'm comparing xillia's first month numbers to vesperia is because xillia has only been out for a few months, comparing 5 years to 2 and a half months is hardly fair, and i wouldn't be surprised if xillia's 2 and a half months > Vesperia's 5 years.

And stop using the userbase as an excuse.

And exactly why is pointing out the userbase not a valid excuse exactly?

You think Tales of Vesperia have sold 100k in its first month if it had instead released on the PS3 when the PS3 had 12 million unit sales in the USA?

No, but it would have sold better then the 360 version

Assumptions

That's literally your entire argument.

Your mindset of "360 is teh dudebro shooterbox lol" keeps you from seeing that Vesperia actually sold really well in the west (2nd best of the entire Tales series behind Symphonia), and every other JRPG on the Xbox sold reasonably well in the west in comparison to JRPGs found on other consoles.

I provide numbers, you provide assumptions. I provide logical reasoning, you provide more assumptions.

Just take a step back, realize that being a fanboy is unhealthy, and graduate from that mindset.

All this argument is pretty useless because in the end xbox had only 1 Tales game in its life time and the brand will never ever get another Tales game ever again while PS3 did not only keep getting more and more Tales games but also been the most supported console by Namco in terms of localizations.

so much for the teh "tales on xbox sold really well in the West" comment just sayin.

There is a reason why xbox seen as the shooter system because thats all it gets, what games that arent shooters did the xbox get this year again?

for Namco to come out straight up and say they arent going to support xbox brand at all tells you something.

#48 Edited by Sweenix (5399 posts) -

@treedoor said:

@Sweenix said:

@treedoor said:

@Sweenix said:

The reason why i'm comparing xillia's first month numbers to vesperia is because xillia has only been out for a few months, comparing 5 years to 2 and a half months is hardly fair, and i wouldn't be surprised if xillia's 2 and a half months > Vesperia's 5 years.

And stop using the userbase as an excuse.

And exactly why is pointing out the userbase not a valid excuse exactly?

You think Tales of Vesperia have sold 100k in its first month if it had instead released on the PS3 when the PS3 had 12 million unit sales in the USA?

No, but it would have sold better then the 360 version

Assumptions

That's literally your entire argument.

Your mindset of "360 is teh dudebro shooterbox lol" keeps you from seeing that Vesperia actually sold really well in the west (2nd best of the entire Tales series behind Symphonia), and every other JRPG on the Xbox sold reasonably well in the west in comparison to JRPGs found on other consoles.

I provide numbers, you provide assumptions. I provide logical reasoning, you provide more assumptions.

Just take a step back, realize that being a fanboy is unhealthy, and graduate from that mindset.

A fanboy? What the F*ck, go right ahead and check my post count, then comeback and say that, the only fanboy here right now is you

And second best selling tales in the west behind symphonia? lol stop using vgchartz numbers

Why don't you just admit you were wrong, because you are only making a fool out of yourself.