SWM 5th Anniversary - Paper Mario flops big time, Vita redeemed? (hint: no)

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#51 Posted by DarkLink77 (31697 posts) -

so who is more negative User on SW? Me or darklin? we both hate too many games...SNIPER4321
I also hate you. I just want to make that abundantly clear.

#52 Posted by Willy105 (24567 posts) -
I don't know a lot about Sniper, but he seems like a nice guy to me.
#53 Posted by jg4xchamp (48716 posts) -
[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]so who is more negative User on SW? Me or darklin? we both hate too many games...

He puts more effort into his hyperbole, but you're more committed to specific themes/allegiances. It's a push really.
#54 Posted by DarkLink77 (31697 posts) -
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]so who is more negative User on SW? Me or darklin? we both hate too many games...

He puts more effort into his hyperbole, but you're more committed to specific themes/allegiances. It's a push really.

Not hard to commit to a theme when you only have one to commit to.
#55 Posted by jg4xchamp (48716 posts) -
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]so who is more negative User on SW? Me or darklin? we both hate too many games...

He puts more effort into his hyperbole, but you're more committed to specific themes/allegiances. It's a push really.

Not hard to commit to a theme when you only have one to commit to.

Hey sometimes it's better to be a one trick pony than a jack of all trades. Because no one, absolutely no one can post a Deus Ex picture better than Sniper. He's the Tom Brady of his niche.
#56 Posted by DarkLink77 (31697 posts) -
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] He puts more effort into his hyperbole, but you're more committed to specific themes/allegiances. It's a push really.

Not hard to commit to a theme when you only have one to commit to.

Hey sometimes it's better to be a one trick pony than a jack of all trades. Because no one, absolutely no one can post a Deus Ex picture better than Sniper. He's the Tom Brady of his niche.

Meh. I'd rather be the King of Hyperbole and hate a wide range of things. But there's no denying his ability to post Deus Ex pictures and spam the same thread over and over again only for it to get hundreds of posts.
#57 Posted by funsohng (28398 posts) -
My Top 10 FPS from 2005: Rainbow Six Vegas Team Fortress 2 Call of Duty 4 Halo CE Anniversary Star Wars: Republic Commando Battlefield 2 (even though I haven't played much of it yet) and uhhh Killzone 2? Good Lord, I have a disgusting taste in FPS. I really should play more of them.
#58 Posted by organic_machine (9686 posts) -

I really should play more of them.funsohng

Yes.

aaaaaaannnnnnndddd.....

Good Lord, I have a disgusting taste in FPS.funsohng

Yes.

...

Just kidding. You're taste is just fine.

My top 5 (top 10 is too difficult):

1) Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl

2) Timesplitters: Future Perfect (yes it released in 2005 so I'M KEEPING IT!)

3) Team Fortress 2

4) F.E.A.R. (Had glaring issues, but damn that gunplay + AI combo was immaculate)

5) Crysis (again, had some serious issues. But that whole first half of the game was divine, and even some of the linear segments at the end were good too).

EDIT: I have not even played the following: Tribes: Ascend, Metro 2033 (I own it though), CS:GO, L4D2, ARMA 2 (I own it though), any of the Killzone games, any of the Resistence games, Red Orchestra 2, Cryostasis (I own it though), Borderlands series, and a host of other games I foegot to mention.

#60 Posted by charizard1605 (58918 posts) -
Metroid Prime
#61 Posted by khoofia_pika (13517 posts) -
Metroid Primecharizard1605
Not a shooter.
#62 Posted by TheDidact (3981 posts) -
Is this thread about 007Legends? :lol: Dat Twitter Convo.....
#63 Posted by mems_1224 (47448 posts) -
[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="funsohng"]My Top 10 FPS from 2005: Rainbow Six Vegas Team Fortress 2 Call of Duty 4 Halo CE Anniversary Star Wars: Republic Commando Battlefield 2 (even though I haven't played much of it yet) and uhhh Killzone 2? Good Lord, I have a disgusting taste in FPS. I really should play more of them.

Sound like you are new to FPS genre... and Rainbow six Vegas? its how dumbed down compare to old school R6 games anyways mine from 2005-onwards 1. STALKER Shadow of Chernoboyl 2. STALKER Call of Pripyat 3. Deus Ex Human Revolution 4. Crysis 5. Orange Box (including HL2 EP2 and TF2) 6. Metro 2033 7. Dishonored 8. ArmA 2 9. Counter Strike GO 10. Left 4 Dead hmmm. Now this is The list.!!

awful list. dishonored is barely even an fps :lol: and while arma 2 is a good concept and fun, the gameplay is absolute trash compared to any fps out there. Playing that game in first person make me want to throw up, its better as a third person shooter. counter strike is casual trash. Left 4 Dead is probably the only game you have that deserves to be on that list.
#65 Posted by mems_1224 (47448 posts) -
[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] Sound like you are new to FPS genre... and Rainbow six Vegas? its how dumbed down compare to old school R6 games anyways mine from 2005-onwards 1. STALKER Shadow of Chernoboyl 2. STALKER Call of Pripyat 3. Deus Ex Human Revolution 4. Crysis 5. Orange Box (including HL2 EP2 and TF2) 6. Metro 2033 7. Dishonored 8. ArmA 2 9. Counter Strike GO 10. Left 4 Dead hmmm. Now this is The list.!!

awful list. dishonored is barely even an fps :lol: and while arma 2 is a good concept and fun, the gameplay is absolute trash compared to any fps out there. Playing that game in first person make me want to throw up, its better as a third person shooter. counter strike is casual trash. Left 4 Dead is probably the only game you have that deserves to be on that list.

make your own list buddy oh i can predict Halo 3 Halo reach Halo 4 COD 4

nah, id probably have only 1 halo game on there.
#67 Posted by mems_1224 (47448 posts) -
mae a list thenSNIPER4321
nah, too many games to choose from and you're just going to say it sucks anyways. why waste the brain power? besides, im playing nba 2k13 right now. thats more important.
#69 Posted by mems_1224 (47448 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]mae a list thenSNIPER4321

nah, too many games to choose from and you're just going to say it sucks anyways. why waste the brain power? besides, im playing nba 2k13 right now. thats more important.

ofcourse you cant since you know i criticize games.

but if u cant make a list then why did you criticize others list?

because your list is garbage. i can make a list but i already know your response so there is no point.
#71 Posted by mems_1224 (47448 posts) -
[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] because your list is garbage. i can make a list but i already know your response so there is no point.

because half of games you have not played on my list. and you cant even make your own list. Dumbass

1. STALKER Shadow of Chernoboyl 3. Deus Ex Human Revolution 4. Crysis 5. Orange Box (including HL2 EP2 and TF2) 6. Metro 2033 7. Dishonored 8. ArmA 2 10. Left 4 Dead i've played those. i know you can't count but 8 is more than half of 10.
#72 Posted by free_milk (4368 posts) -

My list owns all of your lists.:)

In no particular order.

1.Rainbow 6 black arrow

2.Battlefield 3

3.Team Fortress 2

4.Crysis Warhead

5.Deus Ex Human Reveloution

6.Bioshock 1

7.Borderlands 2

8.Far cry 3 (when it comes out)

9.Portal 2 (come at me)

10.Fallout 3 (FPS RPG)

#73 Posted by charizard1605 (58918 posts) -
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Metroid Primekhoofia_pika
Not a shooter.

It's a first person game in which you shoot using guns. By any reasonable definition, it's a shooter. Just a very different one.
#74 Posted by FireSpirit117 (1981 posts) -
That Superman Returns review was freakin' hilarious. :lol:
#75 Posted by Cherokee_Jack (32198 posts) -

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Metroid Primecharizard1605
Not a shooter.

It's a first person game in which you shoot using guns. By any reasonable definition, it's a shooter. Just a very different one.

It's just as much action adventure as shooter, if not more.

Games do not have to be one genre and one only. Or rather, they don't have to be crammed into just one of the big, established genres.

#76 Posted by mems_1224 (47448 posts) -
[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Metroid Primecharizard1605
Not a shooter.

It's a first person game in which you shoot using guns. By any reasonable definition, it's a shooter. Just a very different one.

its an fps, just like fallout 3 is an fps. just because they're hybrid genres doesn't mean those kind of games shouldn't count as fps games.
#77 Posted by WiiCubeM1 (4728 posts) -

Makes me kind of sad I've only ever contributed one thing to the magazine. I love reading this thing.

#78 Posted by free_milk (4368 posts) -

Makes me kind of sad I've only ever contributed one thing to the magazine. I love reading this thing.

WiiCubeM1
I was thinking about contributing.I couldnt think of anything to contribute... :(
#79 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (16692 posts) -

I've always regarded ARMA 2's in-game editor as an awesome feature of the game. I'm happy to see SW sees it that way too.

#80 Posted by fabz_95 (15424 posts) -
Wow, glad to see this is still running. Great job guys.
#81 Posted by timmy00 (15360 posts) -

That Superman Returns review was funny.

#82 Posted by Mario1331 (8826 posts) -
Great issue i must read more
#83 Posted by jg4xchamp (48716 posts) -
Wow, glad to see this is still running. Great job guys.fabz_95
Remember when you did things for it? Me neither.
#84 Posted by Heil68 (45738 posts) -
[QUOTE="fabz_95"]Wow, glad to see this is still running. Great job guys.jg4xchamp
Remember when you did things for it? Me neither.

The funniest thing in a SWM thread/issue for what seems like forever. lolz
#85 Posted by NeonNinja (17318 posts) -

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Metroid Primekhoofia_pika
Not a shooter.

Yes it is.

It has various other aspects like environmental puzzles and platforming, but it's still a first-person shooter.

#86 Posted by Cherokee_Jack (32198 posts) -

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Metroid PrimeNeonNinja

Not a shooter.

Yes it is.

It has various other aspects like environmental puzzles and platforming, but it's still a first-person shooter.

A first-person shooter incongruous with all other games classified as first-person shooters, making the label virtually meaningless.

#87 Posted by NeonNinja (17318 posts) -

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] Not a shooter.Cherokee_Jack

Yes it is.

It has various other aspects like environmental puzzles and platforming, but it's still a first-person shooter.

A first-person shooter incongruous with all other games classified as first-person shooters, making the label virtually meaningless.

It's hardly an inappropriate label. Metroid Prime is a first-person shooter and it succeeds by taking a massive risk for the genre and pulling it off spectacularly. Whether people believe the label is deserved or not has little to do with the fact that Metroid Prime a sci-fi FPS. And a damn good one at that.

#88 Posted by Cherokee_Jack (32198 posts) -

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Yes it is.

It has various other aspects like environmental puzzles and platforming, but it's still a first-person shooter.

NeonNinja

A first-person shooter incongruous with all other games classified as first-person shooters, making the label virtually meaningless.

It's hardly an inappropriate label. Metroid Prime is a first-person shooter and it succeeds by taking a massive risk for the genre and pulling it off spectacularly. Whether people believe the label is deserved or not has little to do with the fact that Metroid Prime a sci-fi FPS. And a damn good one at that.

Its foundations have everything to do with previous Metroid games and virtually nothing to do with actual first-person shooters.

If Metroid Prime had been the first game ever made in which you shot a projectile weapon in first person, it wouldn't have come out much different because its ideas owe so little to the FPS lineage. Even when it had an ammo system (beyond missiles) in one of the 3 games, it handled it in its own weird way that resembles no FPS ammo system that I can think of.

#89 Posted by NeonNinja (17318 posts) -

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

A first-person shooter incongruous with all other games classified as first-person shooters, making the label virtually meaningless.

Cherokee_Jack

It's hardly an inappropriate label. Metroid Prime is a first-person shooter and it succeeds by taking a massive risk for the genre and pulling it off spectacularly. Whether people believe the label is deserved or not has little to do with the fact that Metroid Prime a sci-fi FPS. And a damn good one at that.

Its foundations have everything to do with previous Metroid games and virtually nothing to do with actual first-person shooters.

If Metroid Prime had been the first game ever made in which you shot a projectile weapon in first person, it wouldn't have come out much different because its ideas owe so little to the FPS lineage. Even when it had an ammo system (beyond missiles) in one of the 3 games, it handled it in its own weird way that resembles no FPS ammo system that I can think of.

The fact that it differentiates itself from other shooters does not mean it's suddenly not a shooter. It's unique. It's even amazing. It's also a shooter. The genre is not some taboo that shouldn't be attached to it. It is what it is.

#90 Posted by Cherokee_Jack (32198 posts) -

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

It's hardly an inappropriate label. Metroid Prime is a first-person shooter and it succeeds by taking a massive risk for the genre and pulling it off spectacularly. Whether people believe the label is deserved or not has little to do with the fact that Metroid Prime a sci-fi FPS. And a damn good one at that.

NeonNinja

Its foundations have everything to do with previous Metroid games and virtually nothing to do with actual first-person shooters.

If Metroid Prime had been the first game ever made in which you shot a projectile weapon in first person, it wouldn't have come out much different because its ideas owe so little to the FPS lineage. Even when it had an ammo system (beyond missiles) in one of the 3 games, it handled it in its own weird way that resembles no FPS ammo system that I can think of.

The fact that it differentiates itself from other shooters does not mean it's suddenly not a shooter. It's unique. It's even amazing. It's also a shooter. The genre is not some taboo that shouldn't be attached to it. It is what it is.

I love shooters, they can be just as good as anything else. But Metroid Prime does more than differentiate itself, it has NOTHING to do with other FPS beyond the basic concept of using a projectile weapon in the first-person perspective.

When you assign a genre to a game, it needs to enable meaningful comparisons between that game and others in the genre, which is not the case when you put Metroid Prime in with Halo, Half-Life, Bioshock, etc. Doing that defeats the purpose of game genres.

#91 Posted by Willy105 (24567 posts) -
Saying Metroid Prime is a shooter is like saying Halo is a driving game. Sure, you drive a lot in it, but that's not the point.
#92 Posted by King_Dodongo (3328 posts) -
Great issue as always Willy.
#93 Posted by el3m2tigre (4232 posts) -

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

I must say, this was a fun issue to contribute to, both as pretentious writer and as pedantic editor. :D

SNIPER4321

I thought list is excellent. bioshock was only bad game on list

Geez, how do you even find video games enjoyable?

#94 Posted by Grawse (4342 posts) -
Saying Metroid Prime is a shooter is like saying Halo is a driving game. Sure, you drive a lot in it, but that's not the point. Willy105
LOL so true.