Substantial Next gen jump confirmed- EPIC Games

  • 97 results
  • 1
  • 2

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for NineTailedGoku
NineTailedGoku

1977

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1 NineTailedGoku
Member since 2012 • 1977 Posts

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1807753/nextgen_will_be_a_substantial_leap_over_the_current_generation_says_epic.html

Don't know why posters here thought different. Sony and MS wouldn't bother releasing new consoles if it wasn't a huge difference. One week away from greatness.:cool:

Avatar image for MFDOOM1983
MFDOOM1983

8465

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#2 MFDOOM1983
Member since 2010 • 8465 Posts
We saw substantial difference between the original xbox and 360 which had a 4 year gap. I'd expect an even larger difference with a 8 year gap.
Avatar image for deactivated-59b71619573a1
deactivated-59b71619573a1

38222

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#3 deactivated-59b71619573a1
Member since 2007 • 38222 Posts

I hope so. But you know what's sad, when he says high end PCs are already there. I am looking forward to seeing what the next consoles bring, devs are usually able to squeeze more out of the hardware on consoles than they can on PC due to the nature of them, so I am expecting a lot.

But this article also smells like promoting their own engine a bit too much instead of just talking about the consoles

Avatar image for Badosh
Badosh

12774

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#4 Badosh
Member since 2011 • 12774 Posts
MS will bring the heat, Sony though, lol. Not at all.
Avatar image for 720OwnsPS4
720OwnsPS4

132

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#5 720OwnsPS4
Member since 2013 • 132 Posts

Poor Nintendo fans.

Avatar image for -Unreal-
-Unreal-

24650

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 1

#6 -Unreal-
Member since 2004 • 24650 Posts

So I expect at least 1920x1080 render resolution and things like 16xAF, 8xAA (or high quality AA), soft dynamic shadows on everything in a scene, particle lighting, particle motion blur, per object motion blur, tesselation, volumetric fog, fog shadows, advanced HDR and more...

...all in one scene in one game.

Oh yeah and 60 FPS or thereabouts. Get rid of this 30 FPS crap.

Avatar image for faizan_faizan
faizan_faizan

7869

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#7 faizan_faizan
Member since 2009 • 7869 Posts
What does he mean by substantial? Big? Small?
Avatar image for -Unreal-
-Unreal-

24650

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 1

#8 -Unreal-
Member since 2004 • 24650 Posts

What does he mean by substantial? Big? Small?faizan_faizan

Substantial means a large amount. So big difference.

Avatar image for Speedzilla
Speedzilla

1732

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#9 Speedzilla
Member since 2012 • 1732 Posts

MS will bring the heat, Sony though, lol. Not at all. Badosh

lolololol shut up.

Avatar image for deactivated-59b71619573a1
deactivated-59b71619573a1

38222

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#10 deactivated-59b71619573a1
Member since 2007 • 38222 Posts

What does he mean by substantial? Big? Small?faizan_faizan

Substantial means large

Avatar image for ReadingRainbow4
ReadingRainbow4

18733

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#11 ReadingRainbow4
Member since 2012 • 18733 Posts

I hope epic has a quality jump to go hand in hand.

another gen of nothing but gears of war would be total dog sh*t.

Avatar image for faizan_faizan
faizan_faizan

7869

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#12 faizan_faizan
Member since 2009 • 7869 Posts

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]What does he mean by substantial? Big? Small?seanmcloughlin

Substantial means large

Alright, Thanks.
Avatar image for deactivated-59b71619573a1
deactivated-59b71619573a1

38222

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#13 deactivated-59b71619573a1
Member since 2007 • 38222 Posts

So I expect at least 1920x1080 render resolution and things like 16xAF, 8xAA (or high quality AA), soft dynamic shadows on everything in a scene, particle lighting, particle motion blur, per object motion blur, tesselation, volumetric fog, fog shadows, advanced HDR and more...

...all in one scene in one game.

Oh yeah and 60 FPS or thereabouts. Get rid of this 30 FPS crap.

-Unreal-

Basically PC stuff. And I expect the same, 1080p has to be standard, most if not all games should be very close to 60 fps too and no more damn jaggies. We also need to see a lot more dynamic lighting and no pre-baked crap. And lastly, some decent textures. 

Avatar image for deactivated-59b71619573a1
deactivated-59b71619573a1

38222

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#14 deactivated-59b71619573a1
Member since 2007 • 38222 Posts

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]What does he mean by substantial? Big? Small?faizan_faizan

Substantial means large

Alright, Thanks.

Not a problem ;)

Avatar image for MFDOOM1983
MFDOOM1983

8465

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#15 MFDOOM1983
Member since 2010 • 8465 Posts

I hope epic has a quality jump to go hand in hand.

another gen of nothing but gears of war would be total dog sh*t.

ReadingRainbow4
Indeed. Who wants another AAA series?
Avatar image for faizan_faizan
faizan_faizan

7869

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#16 faizan_faizan
Member since 2009 • 7869 Posts

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]

Substantial means a large amount. So big difference.

-Unreal-

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]What does he mean by substantial? Big? Small?seanmcloughlin

Substantial means large

Thanks.
Avatar image for ReadingRainbow4
ReadingRainbow4

18733

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#17 ReadingRainbow4
Member since 2012 • 18733 Posts

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I hope epic has a quality jump to go hand in hand.

another gen of nothing but gears of war would be total dog sh*t.

MFDOOM1983

Indeed. Who wants another AAA series?

I'd like them to shake the idea of the forced cover shooter. Gears is by far the most boring and stale series i've played this gen.

Avatar image for MFDOOM1983
MFDOOM1983

8465

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#18 MFDOOM1983
Member since 2010 • 8465 Posts

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I hope epic has a quality jump to go hand in hand.

another gen of nothing but gears of war would be total dog sh*t.

ReadingRainbow4

Indeed. Who wants another AAA series?

I'd like them to shake the idea of the forced cover shooter. Gears is by far the most boring series i've played this gen.

Different strokes...
Avatar image for bobbetybob
bobbetybob

19370

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#19 bobbetybob
Member since 2005 • 19370 Posts
This is my prediction: If you play on PC now and max games out, next gen the leap won't seem that big. If you're playing on an Xbox or PS3 next gen is going to look like a big difference, but not to in the same way the PS2 to PS3 jump was. Clarity is the name of the game next gen (well if 1080p becomes standard which it absolutely needs to) with textures that actually look like things and aren't just blurry blobs of brown and green.
Avatar image for ReadingRainbow4
ReadingRainbow4

18733

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#20 ReadingRainbow4
Member since 2012 • 18733 Posts

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] Indeed. Who wants another AAA series?MFDOOM1983

I'd like them to shake the idea of the forced cover shooter. Gears is by far the most boring series i've played this gen.

Different strokes...

I just prefer a proper handjob is all :P

Avatar image for burgeg
burgeg

3599

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 26

User Lists: 0

#21 burgeg
Member since 2005 • 3599 Posts

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I hope epic has a quality jump to go hand in hand.

another gen of nothing but gears of war would be total dog sh*t.

ReadingRainbow4

Indeed. Who wants another AAA series?

I'd like them to shake the idea of the forced cover shooter. Gears is by far the most boring and stale series i've played this gen.

Did you play Bulletstorm? Definitely the best thing Epic have done this gen. Way better than Gears. The skillshot system owned.

Avatar image for faizan_faizan
faizan_faizan

7869

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#22 faizan_faizan
Member since 2009 • 7869 Posts
[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]This is my prediction: If you play on PC now and max games out, next gen the leap won't seem that big.

Indeed this is quite true.
Avatar image for ReadingRainbow4
ReadingRainbow4

18733

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#23 ReadingRainbow4
Member since 2012 • 18733 Posts

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] Indeed. Who wants another AAA series?burgeg

I'd like them to shake the idea of the forced cover shooter. Gears is by far the most boring and stale series i've played this gen.

Did you play Bulletstorm? Definitely the best thing Epic have done this gen. Way better than Gears. The skillshot system owned.

eh, it was fair.

I was mainly referring to their major new IP, which of course from this gen was gears.

Avatar image for deactivated-59b71619573a1
deactivated-59b71619573a1

38222

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#24 deactivated-59b71619573a1
Member since 2007 • 38222 Posts

This is my prediction: If you play on PC now and max games out, next gen the leap won't seem that big..bobbetybob

This post pretty much nails it. 

From PC to consoles won't seem like much, you would likely play it and say "What's the big deal?" from a visual standpoint

But from current consoles to the next will be quite large. Like going from a PS360 to a full kitted out PC now. Higher resolutions with crystal clear images and textures and framerates to make everything seem a lot more fluid

Avatar image for JohnF111
JohnF111

14190

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 12

User Lists: 0

#25 JohnF111
Member since 2010 • 14190 Posts

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1807753/nextgen_will_be_a_substantial_leap_over_the_current_generation_says_epic.html

Don't know why posters here thought different. Sony and MS wouldn't bother releasing new consoles if it wasn't a huge difference. One week away from greatness.:cool:

NineTailedGoku
People here thought different because multiple "sources" said so. I only really want decent visuals at 1080p, no more sub-hd with post processing nonsense to hide the jaggies and bad textures
Avatar image for -Unreal-
-Unreal-

24650

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 1

#26 -Unreal-
Member since 2004 • 24650 Posts

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]What does he mean by substantial? Big? Small?faizan_faizan

Substantial means a large amount. So big difference.

Alright, Thanks.

Np

Avatar image for GarGx1
GarGx1

10934

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#27 GarGx1
Member since 2011 • 10934 Posts

A substantial jump in games has never been in question. Going from 7 year old tech, which is currently roughly 10 x weaker than high end PC's (maybe more) the question is just how much of a substantial jump that is going to be.

A gain of 5x the power of a 360 or PS3 would be a massive improvement

Avatar image for ReadingRainbow4
ReadingRainbow4

18733

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#28 ReadingRainbow4
Member since 2012 • 18733 Posts

I'm even more excited what this will mean for PC games. seeing how a large majority of all current pc games are multiplat.

Avatar image for way2funny
way2funny

4570

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 12

User Lists: 0

#29 way2funny
Member since 2003 • 4570 Posts

So I expect at least 1920x1080 render resolution and things like 16xAF, 8xAA (or high quality AA), soft dynamic shadows on everything in a scene, particle lighting, particle motion blur, per object motion blur, tesselation, volumetric fog, fog shadows, advanced HDR and more...

...all in one scene in one game.

Oh yeah and 60 FPS or thereabouts. Get rid of this 30 FPS crap.

-Unreal-

If they bump current games to true 1080p with AA and 60fps, there will be no more power to do anything else.

Avatar image for k2theswiss
k2theswiss

16599

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 1

#30 k2theswiss
Member since 2007 • 16599 Posts

sony/ MS wouldn't bother making new console if there wasn't?

 

umm you should look up the facts that no big publishers want to sink big amounts of money into new ips because the consoles been out for long, games sales are down, list goes on...

Avatar image for -Unreal-
-Unreal-

24650

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 1

#31 -Unreal-
Member since 2004 • 24650 Posts

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

So I expect at least 1920x1080 render resolution and things like 16xAF, 8xAA (or high quality AA), soft dynamic shadows on everything in a scene, particle lighting, particle motion blur, per object motion blur, tesselation, volumetric fog, fog shadows, advanced HDR and more...

...all in one scene in one game.

Oh yeah and 60 FPS or thereabouts. Get rid of this 30 FPS crap.

way2funny

If they bump current games to true 1080p with AA and 60fps, there will be no more power to do anything else.

Well that depends on how "high end" they're going. I am very skeptical about that quote by Epic saying "high end". I seriously doubt AMD or nVidia have managed to fit the power of something like a GTX 690 or even a 670 into something that fits inside a console-sized chasis and remains cool. These things need to stay stable and cool for years too. Just look at the current consoles. Lots of overheating issues with those.

Avatar image for 04dcarraher
04dcarraher

23829

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#32 04dcarraher
Member since 2004 • 23829 Posts

[QUOTE="way2funny"]

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

So I expect at least 1920x1080 render resolution and things like 16xAF, 8xAA (or high quality AA), soft dynamic shadows on everything in a scene, particle lighting, particle motion blur, per object motion blur, tesselation, volumetric fog, fog shadows, advanced HDR and more...

...all in one scene in one game.

Oh yeah and 60 FPS or thereabouts. Get rid of this 30 FPS crap.

-Unreal-

If they bump current games to true 1080p with AA and 60fps, there will be no more power to do anything else.

Well that depends on how "high end" they're going. I am very skeptical about that quote by Epic saying "high end". I seriously doubt AMD or nVidia have managed to fit the power of something like a GTX 690 or even a 670 into something that fits inside a console-sized chasis and remains cool. These things need to stay stable and cool for years too. Just look at the current consoles. Lots of overheating issues with those.

28nm is the main standard now in gpu tech and to have a gpu as fast as another gpu you need virtually the same amount of transistors which means at then same manufacturing process it will have virtually the same power requirements. Your not going to see 130+ TDP based gpus in the next consoles like 7870 or better.

Avatar image for slipknot0129
slipknot0129

5832

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#33 slipknot0129
Member since 2008 • 5832 Posts

Crysis 3 is where im starting to see a next gen look in pc games. Aint nothing touches Crysis 3 in graphics. But thats comparable to the 4 year gen leap of Xbox to Xbox 360. So this 8 year jump in graphics Xbox 720 will have, will definetly blow Crysis 3 out of the water. 360 to 720 will be like N64 to 360. 

Avatar image for Dark_man123
Dark_man123

4012

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 0

#34 Dark_man123
Member since 2005 • 4012 Posts

unless if it close to the level of avatar in real-time than I dont think there's anything that might impress me.

Avatar image for 04dcarraher
04dcarraher

23829

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#35 04dcarraher
Member since 2004 • 23829 Posts

Crysis 3 is where im starting to see a next gen look in pc games. Aint nothing touches Crysis 3 in graphics. But thats comparable to the 4 year gen leap of Xbox to Xbox 360. So this 8 year jump in graphics Xbox 720 will have, will definetly blow Crysis 3 out of the water. 360 to 720 will be like N64 to 360. 

slipknot0129
If the rumored specs are true about the 720 having a a gpu with 1.2 TFLOP and 68GB/s memory performance that isnt going to happen, since the gpu is not any faster then a mid ranged gpu from 2011.
Avatar image for blue_hazy_basic
blue_hazy_basic

30854

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#36 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
Member since 2002 • 30854 Posts
So consoles basically catching up to PC's, I don't think anyone thought that was unrealistic at all. The rumour where the guy said the jump would be like going from Halo2 to Crysis maxed. That's a different story.
Avatar image for -RocBoys9489-
-RocBoys9489-

6336

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#37 -RocBoys9489-
Member since 2008 • 6336 Posts
60FPS or GTFO consoles
Avatar image for HaloinventedFPS
HaloinventedFPS

4738

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#38 HaloinventedFPS
Member since 2010 • 4738 Posts

Yeah, anyone remember when Epic Games was running a PC tech demo at Sony's E3 in 05 & claiming it was on PS3? nothing but lies

People forget too easy, wait til the consoles actually come out

Avatar image for fernandmondego_
fernandmondego_

3170

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#39 fernandmondego_
Member since 2005 • 3170 Posts

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1807753/nextgen_will_be_a_substantial_leap_over_the_current_generation_says_epic.html

Don't know why posters here thought different. Sony and MS wouldn't bother releasing new consoles if it wasn't a huge difference. One week away from greatness.:cool:

NineTailedGoku
bu... bu.. but there's no way they will be a lot better, they are only going to be slightly and barely noticeably more powerful. - Sheep
Avatar image for fernandmondego_
fernandmondego_

3170

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#41 fernandmondego_
Member since 2005 • 3170 Posts

Poor Nintendo fans.

720OwnsPS4
You take that back :cry:- Sheep
Avatar image for Heil68
Heil68

60702

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#42 Heil68
Member since 2004 • 60702 Posts
So the God Station 4 will be godly? awwwa yeahhhhh.
Avatar image for NineTailedGoku
NineTailedGoku

1977

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#43 NineTailedGoku
Member since 2012 • 1977 Posts

So the God Station 4 will be godly? awwwa yeahhhhh.Heil68

As always :D

Avatar image for Micropixel
Micropixel

1383

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#44 Micropixel
Member since 2005 • 1383 Posts

[QUOTE="720OwnsPS4"]

Poor Nintendo fans.

fernandmondego_

You take that back :cry:- Sheep

 

Wii U can run Unreal 4 Engine.

Wii U can also run Cry Engine 3.

 

Not a sheep. Just pointing out that it can do the same thing.

Avatar image for Kinthalis
Kinthalis

5503

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#45 Kinthalis
Member since 2002 • 5503 Posts

All you need to know is in the first sentence of the article:

 

"Next generation consoles, or high-end platforms, will offer a gamers a substantial leap over the current generation according to Epic founder Tim Sweeney."



Guess what he means with "high end platforms".  

 

Spoiler: PC.

Avatar image for ReadingRainbow4
ReadingRainbow4

18733

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#46 ReadingRainbow4
Member since 2012 • 18733 Posts

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="720OwnsPS4"]

Poor Nintendo fans.

Micropixel

You take that back :cry:- Sheep

Wii U can run Unreal 4 Engine.

Wii U can also run Cry Engine 3.

Not a sheep. Just pointing out that it can do the same thing.

Doing it well is another question entirely.

There's no denying the wiiu is in for another significant power difference.

Avatar image for PurpleMan5000
PurpleMan5000

10531

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#47 PurpleMan5000
Member since 2011 • 10531 Posts
[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I hope epic has a quality jump to go hand in hand.

another gen of nothing but gears of war would be total dog sh*t.

MFDOOM1983
Indeed. Who wants another AAA series?

I liked Gears, but a new Unreal Tournament (that's actually good) would be nice.
Avatar image for fernandmondego_
fernandmondego_

3170

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#48 fernandmondego_
Member since 2005 • 3170 Posts

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="720OwnsPS4"]

Poor Nintendo fans.

Micropixel

You take that back :cry:- Sheep

 

Wii U can run Unreal 4 Engine.

Wii U can also run Cry Engine 3.

 

Not a sheep. Just pointing out that it can do the same thing.

Cause it's scalable but it wouldn't be the full blown engine. "We'll run on mobile phones and on a wide variety of things, so if a customer decides they want to port an Unreal Engine 4 game to Wii U, they could,".
Avatar image for Micropixel
Micropixel

1383

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#49 Micropixel
Member since 2005 • 1383 Posts

[QUOTE="Micropixel"]

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]You take that back :cry:- SheepReadingRainbow4

 

Wii U can run Unreal 4 Engine.

Wii U can also run Cry Engine 3.

 

Not a sheep. Just pointing out that it can do the same thing.

Doing it well is another question entirely.

There's no denying the wiiu is in for another significant power difference.

 

Did you read them? Here's a quote from CryTek themselves: Crytek: "CryEngine 3 'Beautiful' on Wii U"

So I'm going to assume coming them that it's running more than "well".

Avatar image for Micropixel
Micropixel

1383

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#50 Micropixel
Member since 2005 • 1383 Posts

[QUOTE="Micropixel"]

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]You take that back :cry:- Sheepfernandmondego_

 

Wii U can run Unreal 4 Engine.

Wii U can also run Cry Engine 3.

 

Not a sheep. Just pointing out that it can do the same thing.

Cause it's scalable but it wouldn't be the full blown engine. "We'll run on mobile phones and on a wide variety of things, so if a customer decides they want to port an Unreal Engine 4 game to Wii U, they could,".

 

You guys like to use the "scalable" excuse alot, don't you?