Steam user score for Fallout 4 is 78%!?

Wow I thought it would be be in the 90s so I guess a lot fans did not like it as much lol I think its lower than even the previous Fallout to come to steam. They game has hundreds of thousands of players atm playing it so the score is kinda hard to understand the correlation. There seem a lot of compliant about the rpg element of the game.

I'm not a fan of the leveling system. Personally I liked skyrims system where the more you used something the higher level you got.

It's not a very polished product. The game has lots of performance issues on consoles, bugs on all platforms, and on PC specifically the controls and UI work very poorly.

I have shelved my Fallout 4 copy until mod tools are officially available and the aforementioned issues are fixed by patches and mods.

Pc gamers are a conflicted bunch. Both boasting about advancing technology while simulation with almost militaristic mentality fanatically clinging to old ideals, regarding future prospects with jaded intensity.

I'd disagree that it controls very poorly on PC, I find movement and combat to be fine, definitely missing a climb option and jumping is near useless, I despise not being able to get over small fences in a game. Shooting is accurate enough that I rarely use V.A.T.S. in combat at all, it's easy enough to shoot the wings of a bloat fly without it. Also it's very satisfying blowing a Raiders head off with a .50 cal. silenced sniper rifle, then picking off his mates while they try to find you.

The controls for building settlements are stupidly atrocious, though I'm not sure if it's the controls or the inflexibility of the pieces that are more annoying.

The U.I. menu system on the pip boy is completely designed around a second screen and is unintuitive but I've definitely seen worse.

By far the two most annoying things with the game are the random CTD's (I think these are linked to base building as the game never crashes on me until after I've build something) and the most aggravating one is the character lock up after using a terminal (appears to be linked to the character movement prior to the screen coming up).

There are issues with the game, but 78% is not bad, especially considering the game has not had the modkit out yet.

Anyway, problems with the game include:

• Terrible writing
• Awful dialog system
• Bad graphics
• Even poorer performance
• Loads of glitches (apparently, I do admit to not having run into any, outside of some voice synching issues)
• The leveling system is pretty dumbed down- I don't know why they couldn't have just used Skyrim's system, which was the perfect balance between depth and accessibility (it also made sense- the more you did something, the better you got at it, instead of everything being all perks based)
• The combat is terrible, especially if you don't use VATS. With VATS, it's slightly less terrible, but it's terrible regardless
• Quests are banal and inane
• The game definitely suffers from pacing issues

All of this aside, it's still fun. Exploring the Wasteland is great, it's atmospheric, the crafting system is incredible, and the game is a nice power fantasy. Is it the best RPG released this year? **** no, I probably wouldn't even put it in the Top 5, but it's a fun game regardless, and I don't regret buying it.

I haven't played FO4 but as a PC gamer and former Bethesda fan I find the UI issues most offensive. Given the high sales of their games on PC (9.5 million copies of Skyrim according to Steam Spy) I find it extremely disrespectful that Bethesda continues to make half-assed UI systems ill suited to mouse and keyboard. This is particularly inexcusable for a company with PC-exclusive origins.

They're lazy. More talented modders will design a better UI than the standard one, they'll also make the game look and run better, and script and write more interesting quests. That's how it's been with Bethesda game for quite some time now.

On PC the vertical and horizontal mouse speed are not even the same (same on console, but you don't notice that with controllers), the sensitivity of ADS also has to be adjusted, and as always mouse acceleration is enabled by default. These don't bother me too much, since you can fix them via .ini editing. However, I can imagine some PC gamers frustrated by these issues.

The general UI is very poorly designed. The favourites menu is effectively useless, so it's a good thing that we can just use the number keys instead. The perk tree is god awful - you can only scroll down by moving the mouse to the bottom of the screen, mouse wheel, movement keys, mouse dragging all don't work for inexplicable reasons. The PipBoy is a huge step back in UI design, since we clearly care more about how our hand looks when dialing the PipBoy, and having to see the world map on a tiny screen is clearly a fair compromise! It was ridiculous when I cried tears of joy when I accessed the menu while in a Power Armor, and saw how... normally big it was.

I'm genuinely having difficulty believing that Todd had the same amount of input on this game as Skyrim. The FO4 world map is a decade behind Skyrim's world map in terms of good true graphical UI.

Todd would never lie.

Lol the metacritic user review is 5

@charizard1605:

The issues you list suggest that it should be even lower that 78%. Another overrated game.

Well when you have a worse dialogue system than dragon age II..

I would really love this game if I could play it for more than 30-45 minutes at a time before it CTD

It shouldn't be less than 78%. I would rate it at a 7 or an 8 myself. 78% seems bang on the mark.

What Fallout 4 does well, it does really well, and even in the things it does not do as well, it's not game breakingly bad, not always anyway.

I think that will change if there is good mod support and mods. If you look at how Skyrim started off, and what it eventually became, there is a big difference.

Right now there is a whole lot wrong with Fallout 4. I've had low and high res models loading in simultaneously, making me unable to distinguish what is a real floor and what isn't. I've had crashes. The save game pictures are all wonky. The dialogue options can be pretty poor. The game is a bit of a mess.

Putting it like that makes it read like some subpar game, not something that is still fun :/

The leveling system is a nice change, it isn't like TES, nor should it be. I really like all the different styles and perks. I just don't like the level requirements for going past tier 1 in a perk.

The melee system is better and feels more impactful than any previous Bethesda RPG. The shooting is better and feels more rewarding than any previous Bethesda RPG.

Graphics look frankly amazing at times. And for me performance problems and bugs have been minor (can not speak for others though).

I have not played enough of the game to comment on your other points. But I think the game is really fun, along with your positive criticism making it all the more better :)

Too high!!!

A 6 is enough until it gets fully patched and even then it does not deserve it, mcritics users are right!!!

they mad cuz mod tool isn't available yet and its hard to transform fallout 4 into a porn game without it

currently all reviewers on steam are just joker reviews or so much like a kids wants to be more special product for them [waiting for good graphics mods, pc master racism whatever and other things you will see even metacritric....] facepalm...

Disclaimer - I haven't played any of the modern Fallout games, but damn does Fallout 4 look horrible. Like really really bad on all platforms. The character animations are as bad if not worse than Alpha Protocol (which were universally panned 5 years ago), the facial animations haven't improved since Oblivion (they were really bad even then) and look like something from last century, the textures/ground-clutter/effects look identical to Fallout3, animation sync in combat is just flat out hilariously bad. I could go on, and that isn't even counting the numerous bugs and progress blocks or the fact that even though the game looks like something from 10 years ago it still manages to run as poorly as it looks based on the performance reviews.

The Steam reviews are a hell of a lot more accurate than the (likely paid for) reviews from major publications. This isn't metacritic where you can just go on and post a 0 whenever you want. On Steam you have to actually own the game to review it, which makes it a much more accurate snapshot of people opinions who actually bought the game at retail price.

The dialouge system is the biggest draw back to me. I am not that far into the game, but no way this has more dialouge then syrim and new vegas. Also Fallout 3 writing was ok, New Vegas writing was actually really great, this is going back to Fallout 3 writing

There are already porn mods for Fallout 4.

I've learned to wait for mod support and a good sale before buying Bethesda games. However, some of the stuff people are complaining about is weird. FO hasn't been a RPG since the second game.

It has bugs, and the controls aren't thought out very well. Certain things won't bind to certain keys, etc. I am enjoying it, though.

i know but they're garbo quality compared to what's available to skyrim