Steam Machine($500 PC) impact on pc gaming

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#1 Edited by GodspellWH (442 posts) -

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2066983/first-look-at-a-steam-machine-ibuypowers-pc-has-solid-specs-xbox-like-price-tag.html

iBuyPower’s box costs $500, or the same as an Xbox One console, and that figure includes one of Valve’s funky Steam Controllers.

Living Room Friendly

Large Game library

Mods

does what any other PC can

No paying for playing games online

Comes with steam controller

500 dollars for a PC with better specs than the next gen consoles from the information given that's a damn good price not only that no online fee to play mp and advantages any ordinary PC will give. If Valve steam machine offers something similar maybe even somewhat cheaper and they market it to the mainstream audience this could really booster the current install base for steam by a large amount from its pre existing one and introduce newer generations to pc gaming. It might even match the success of the next gen in terms of those who buy it when they launch.

Would this be consider a turning point in the history of pc gaming when small factor PCs are being offered at lower price for the living room and marketed which you damn sure Valve will do. Not only that might possibly disrupt the console business by a quite a bit or a lot by competing with them with price.

Of course there always factors like gaming library and support but it seems like Valve got some major backing at this point. Given there track record they seem to know what there doing.

#2 Edited by TheFadeForever (1829 posts) -

500 dollars for those spec that's unbelievable that's better than the xbone for the price and could be cheaper than the ps4 in the long run because there no need to pay for online.

#3 Posted by SEANMCAD (5464 posts) -

I think it will have a larger impact on consoles then PCs. As far as getting the PC into the living room all one has to do is pick it up and move it, so its not really a issue with PC gamers.

With Steam, bad quality of new gen consoles set in stone for years to come, high quality of PCs, Oculus Rift, Augmented reality, motion sensing etc.

The day of the PC might very well kick consoles out completely if they dont get it together.

#4 Edited by gameofthering (10311 posts) -

Are the Steam Machines going to be available to buy at the beginning of 2014?

#5 Posted by TheFadeForever (1829 posts) -

@gameofthering:

yep somewhere i think

#6 Posted by GodspellWH (442 posts) -

@gameofthering:

Yes

#7 Posted by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

It will finally get some Hermkids to experience God Tier Home Theater Gaming

#8 Posted by Jankarcop (9618 posts) -

PC already does everything steambox does but it will make it easier to game on a tv for when you do not want to be completley immersed or play competative games.

its already easy for anyone competant tho.

#9 Edited by lawlessx (46773 posts) -

@GioVela2010 said:

It will finally get some Hermkids to experience God Tier Home Theater Gaming

right..because it's impossible to hook a PC to your Tv

#10 Posted by NFJSupreme (5379 posts) -

Pc will see a huge explosion this Gen. Especially among core gamers looking for a more robust experience. The prices for pc are just going to be too good to ignore this Gen.

#11 Posted by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

@lawlessx:

But u don't

#12 Posted by uninspiredcup (8935 posts) -

Steambox will bolster an already winning pc. This is the end for consoles my friend. Consider yourself lucky if it continues another generation after this. It will simply be a service for tablets, laptops and pc's similar to steam lol.

#13 Posted by adamosmaki (9650 posts) -

The impact i'm hoping to have is to bring more games on Linux so we stop been rather dependent on MS and windows alone

#14 Edited by Jankarcop (9618 posts) -

@GioVela2010 said:

@lawlessx:

But u don't

Sadly for you steambox and formfactor DO exist. Your last vestige of arguement against PC (an opinion based "bu bu living room") is now over. Its gone. You can't use it.

So now PC you can go from competative/immersive gaming to the king of living room and theater gaming quite easily.

Godly. Best platform period now.

#15 Edited by Motokid6 (5714 posts) -

Consoles are going to be turned into software soon enough. The PS5 will be an operating system you watch. ( which wouldnt really be a bad thing )

#16 Edited by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

Lol this thing is a console

This thingy will help usher in the death of PC Gaming after so many hermits realize how much more fun Home Theater gaming is

#17 Posted by cobrax55 (1364 posts) -

@GioVela2010 said:

Lol this thing is a console

This thingy will help usher in the death of PC Gaming after so many hermits realize how much more fun Home Theater gaming is

It uses entirely off the shelf PC parts and you can even install windows on it.....How is it a console again? The only thing that seperates it from any traditional gaming PC is that it uses SteamOS not windows, and even then you can alternate between the two on any device.

#18 Edited by Evo_nine (1741 posts) -

Its still a PC though....

#19 Posted by Riverwolf007 (23865 posts) -

i can't imagine that the people this is targeted at are not sitting there saying.

"well why would i not just spend a little more and build my own?" "with windows....and the parts that i like more....during a sale...from newegg...so it will come with freebies..."

#20 Posted by enzyme36 (1573 posts) -

Cant wait to get my hands on that controller

#21 Posted by Jankarcop (9618 posts) -

@Evo_nine said:

Its still a PC though....

Agreed, its a form factor PC with a bunch of conveniences, but its still a PC.

Which is a good thing, as now PC still gets to keep its exclusives and take over domain in the living room (which it already does, but is a tad bit of a hassle)

#22 Posted by -Unreal- (24544 posts) -

I'm curious to see the high end systems price and size. It's not something I'd buy myself though.

#23 Posted by SEANMCAD (5464 posts) -

@Jankarcop said:

@GioVela2010 said:

@lawlessx:

But u don't

Sadly for you steambox and formfactor DO exist.

So now PC you can go from competative/immersive gaming to the king of living room and theater gaming quite easily.

Godly. Best platform period now.

I am a bit confused.

Unplug the TV from the PC and plug it into the cable box. WTF? why is that hard? In fact most likely someone makes switchers.

#24 Posted by -Unreal- (24544 posts) -

I'm curious to see the high end systems price and size. It's not something I'd buy myself though.

@GioVela2010 said:

Lol this thing is a console

This thingy will help usher in the death of PC Gaming after so many hermits realize how much more fun Home Theater gaming is

  • It's a pre-built PC in a small form factor
  • It plays PC games
  • It runs on Steam OS, an operating system for PCs
  • Home theatres are not exclusive to console gaming

You're not making a convincing argument that this is a console.

#25 Posted by -RocBoys9489- (6273 posts) -

Very cool, good job Valve and partners!

#26 Posted by Jankarcop (9618 posts) -

@-Unreal- said:

I'm curious to see the high end systems price and size. It's not something I'd buy myself though.

@GioVela2010 said:

Lol this thing is a console

This thingy will help usher in the death of PC Gaming after so many hermits realize how much more fun Home Theater gaming is

  • It's a pre-built PC in a small form factor
  • It plays PC games
  • It runs on Steam OS, an operating system for PCs
  • Home theatres are not exclusive to console gaming

You're not making a convincing argument that this is a console.

He's been saying PC is going to die for 3 gens now, and it ends up winning SW all the time.


You can pretty much ignore anything he ever has to say about gaming.

#27 Posted by lundy86_4 (43526 posts) -

Gio got dominated pretty hard, lol.

#28 Posted by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

@SEANMCAD:

Sounds easy, now show me how u did it

#29 Edited by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

It's a closed platform that's meant to be connected to a TV.

Sounds like a console to me

#30 Posted by clyde46 (46584 posts) -

@GioVela2010 said:

It's a closed platform that's meant to be connected to a TV.

Sounds like a console to me

Wrong.

#31 Edited by treedoor (7648 posts) -

I don't know if it'll really do anything for PC gaming, but if it's popular it'll surely change the way the console makers do business given just how drastically better Steam is as a distribution service than XBL, PSN, and WiiWare.

#32 Edited by Motokid6 (5714 posts) -

I think you will be able to build your own, no? Or was that something else?

#33 Posted by cobrax55 (1364 posts) -

@GioVela2010 said:

It's a closed platform that's meant to be connected to a TV.

Sounds like a console to me

Its not a closed platform....

#34 Posted by Rage010101 (5470 posts) -

@GioVela2010 said:

It's a closed platform that's meant to be connected to a TV.

Sounds like a console to me

Except that it's not a closed platform...

#35 Posted by SEANMCAD (5464 posts) -

@GioVela2010 said:

@SEANMCAD:

Sounds easy, now show me how u did it

I dont do it that is why its more of a question.

I mean I switch out monitors at home farily often because sometimes I work from home and that has prooven to be painless.

So my question is this. Is it that much harder to do with a TV? Or..... are consoles only real benifit that they are a glorified switch?

#36 Posted by NFJSupreme (5379 posts) -

First, in this very thread, gio is like it sucks it's a pc lol. Then after its proven just how awesome this is now he is like oh it's a console. Lol typical flip flopping consolite

#37 Posted by Jankarcop (9618 posts) -

@NFJSupreme said:

First, in this very thread, gio is like it sucks it's a pc lol. Then after its proven just how awesome this is now he is like oh it's a console. Lol typical flip flopping consolite

the guys a big troll all he does is run in circles while PC wins every gen and gets the best gfx

#38 Edited by Cobra_nVidia (1597 posts) -

It's a system with variable PC spec's running an OS that also runs on common PCs. Valve is claiming no exclusives either - and this from a service that offers Linux/Windows/Mac OS versions of the same game for the price of one version. Maybe the idea is to have a controller so that it can get console lovers to use the steam marketplace.

I would assume it would especially affect Microsoft, since the XBOX isn't much more than a cheap PC anyway. Valve isn't happy with Windows 8 either.

#39 Posted by adamosmaki (9650 posts) -

@GioVela2010 said:

It will finally get some Hermkids to experience God Tier Home Theater Gaming

if it aint a $2000 Mac it aint worth it bro. Pc gaming is dead. In fact computers are dead with the exception of Mac computing which is still growing

In fact the reason Valve made SteamOS is because is based on Unix like MacOS is so the transition of Valve and steam onto Mac will be smoother and easier

#40 Posted by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

@NFJSupreme:

When did I say it sucks?

#41 Edited by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

Lol I can always tell who the Hermkids are still living in mommy and daddy's house..

" dude just disconnect the PC and connect it to the TV"

Sorry kid, I don't live with my parents and have my PC and my Gaming TV in my bedroom. My Gaming TV is in my living room, and my PC is in my den.. U see most responsible adults don't have the PC and TV in the same room.. And moving around a 30lb PC is not an option

The other one..

"Dude just get a 50ft hdmi cable and connect it from your PC to the Plasma"

Sorry kid I'm not gonna have a HDMI cable out in open view of my house like that, it's tacky as hell, and my kids or someone else could trip on it and break components or hurt themselves..

Anyway, the only respectable solution for an adult with any class whatsoever is to juist buy a Steam Box that fits under your TV, or to build one yourself. I chose to build one myself because luckily my $1800 dollar AV cabinet accommodates and completely hides my mid tower PC from view.

But I'm glad Gabe and Valve are thinking of better solutions for real adults that want a viable PC option for the living room.

#42 Posted by MonsieurX (30422 posts) -

@GioVela2010 said:
my $1800 dollar AV cabinet

I always laugh at that part

#43 Posted by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

Laugh all u want, it hides my ugly PC tower completely and still keeps it running cool

#44 Posted by Jankarcop (9618 posts) -

Gets beaten in argument:

"bu bu momy daddy basement nerd looser waa waw waaaa"

#45 Posted by NFJSupreme (5379 posts) -

@GioVela2010 said:

Lol I can always tell who the Hermkids are still living in mommy and daddy's house..

" dude just disconnect the PC and connect it to the TV"

Sorry kid, I don't live with my parents and have my PC and my Gaming TV in my bedroom. My Gaming TV is in my living room, and my PC is in my den.. U see most responsible adults don't have the PC and TV in the same room.. And moving around a 30lb PC is not an option

The other one..

"Dude just get a 50ft hdmi cable and connect it from your PC to the Plasma"

Sorry kid I'm not gonna have a HDMI cable out in open view of my house like that, it's tacky as hell, and my kids or someone else could trip on it and break components or hurt themselves..

Anyway, the only respectable solution for an adult with any class whatsoever is to juist buy a Steam Box that fits under your TV, or to build one yourself. I chose to build one myself because luckily my $1800 dollar AV cabinet accommodates and completely hides my mid tower PC from view.

But I'm glad Gabe and Valve are thinking of better solutions for real adults that want a viable PC option for the living room.

when you have the law on your side...you argue the law.

when you have the facts on your side...you argue the facts.

when you have neither...you pound the table.

Right now you are pounding the table. It's ok we have grown accustomed to consolites doing this. It's all they have.

#46 Edited by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

So basically u disagree with Gabe's Steam machine idea...

And I support him and thank him..

We (Gabe and I) clearly have a better understanding of adult wants and needs than you kids

#47 Posted by NFJSupreme (5379 posts) -

@GioVela2010 said:

So basically u disagree with Gabe's Steam machine idea...

And I support him and thank him..

We (Gabe and I) clearly have a better understanding of adult wants and needs than you kids

don't hit the table too hard it might brake.

#48 Edited by TheFadeForever (1829 posts) -

So by next year with 500 dollars it can get you a PC that is better than a console at the same price and requires no paying for online annually with many more options available . Living room friendly, access to large game library, modding, and etc that a traditional PC would give to a average consumer. This is just the beginning for the PC master race lol.

lol Giov talking about his plasma and shit that no one cares about

#49 Posted by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

@TheFadeForever:

Yes living room friendly.

Thank you BasedGabe!

Lol @ the hermkids that think it will fail

#50 Edited by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

I like it. It won't have an impact on me or my gaming habits but it sure does look nice, it's cheap, small and convenient.

It'll be a nice transition or middle ground between PCs and consoles, like a nicer Alienware.