Star Citizen hangar UPDATE2(Dogfight module Screen shots)

We got to see about 30 seconds of a couple people playing a buggy alpha build that later crashed.

Way to draw conclusions about a final product not to be released for the next 1.5-2 years.

Don't care if there are 50 thousand people fighting at the same time. Flying lacked any sense of speed or momentum. The weapons looked and sounded dull. I get it's an alpha, but so far it looks awful and I don't think there's any indication it will be cool by launch.

@Sushiglutton:

You do realize there's a thing called G-Forces. They're going for a realistic approach when G-Forces will effect a pilots actions in Star Citizen so you're not gonna see amazing 360's, 180's and barrel rolls out of the blue.

As for the sound, it sounds like every other explosion/bullet sound effect that has been used in numerous space battles in movies, tv shows and games. I even got a slight deja vu of some sound bits from what they used for BSG when Vipers would open fire.

This brings up more questions which I know smart people may know the answer to but if you're in space with very little to no gravity then how can there be any meaningful g-force? We can withstand quite a lot of g-stuff but to remove gravity by even just 50% wouldn't this mean we would be able to make exponentially sharper and faster movements?

There would be a force exerted on the pilot based on the relative momentum and change of direction of the ship. So to come to a full stop from maximum thrust, it would require equal amounts of thrust power in the exact opposite direction to stop it. The pilot, even if in a zero-g environment, should still feel the motion of the craft carrying them.

It's only "cool" to people who like a realistic recreation of what space travel several hundred years in the future might be like. This isn't meant to be the Call of Duty of space shooters... it's as close to what they can approximate flying a starship would be like.

And really, what is more rewarding... flying a ship with all the detailed controls of a real one through missions and hotzones, battling off other individuals or groups and successfully vanquishing them all with your many weeks of training and practice... or jumping into an on-rails experience where you push a few buttons, see a bunch of explosions and get congratulated for saving the universe?

Yeah I understand there will always be force applied to your body but in the video the ship couldn't have been moving very fast so would acceleration to light speed not be similar to accelerating in a sports car, meaning due to having almost no gravity you could accelerate much much more while only producing the same g-force as a fast car.

Maybe it was because the battle was close to a planet and it's gravity was stronger but I think they overdid the g-force a little, maybe some motion sickness but almost passing out? Seems a bit much.

The force applied to the body would depend on the acceleration. Accelerating to light speed (or near light speed, as theoretically light speed travel without special quantum exceptions is impossible I hear) at a fast rate would cause severe stress to the body (so much as there is no special exceptions like in Star Trek where they have this compensation mechanic and self-contained artificial gravity on the ship).

Granted, I am merely applying my knowledge of high school level physics and basic scifi tropes to this question. Physics has come a long way in the past decade, and I haven't been keeping up to speed (pun intended).

One thing you have to love about the Crowd Funded Model is how open the Dev process is. They just released a bit about AI. It's awsome.

^^ thanks for the link..

awesome

That one guy was like the real life Sheldon.

"I'm an astrophysicist that ran simulations on the universe, with supercomputers from around the world".

And this guy is in game development? Wow... do what you love I guess.

This game is turning into something amazing. And the one comment about having the backer/kickstarter model making all this possible, while under a publisher, they'd have to make sacrifices to meet the release schedule really hits home for me. This is how I want games to be made... for the passion of it, not because they need to make a marketable product for the general consumer.

Can't imagine there is much demand for an astrophysicist around the world. The few jobs there are going to be highly contested. This was probably a better paying job.

Space Sim after all

God damn I wanna see some boarding maybe they will add it in future updates

If its going be a space sim there going need some experts on making it good

"As a result of hitting this most recent goal, Cloud Imperium’s chairman Chris Roberts, the man behind the Wing Commander games, announced that the dev can now fund a new “Procedural Generation R&D Team.” This team will develop procedural generation technology for later iterations of the game, which will help to enhance the scope and detail of the universe the team is building."

There going to expand it even more maybe they will create some planets we can explore

Landing on planets and exploring was already a plan . But now with extra funding they will add an expansion pack that will allow players to explore ENTIRE planet . On game's initial launch , it will have over 450 locations where you can land (all handcrafted) which includes cities , planets , asteroid bases , abandoned bases , underwater cities etc . There will be some limitations though . Since this is huge galaxy , so they can't handcraft everything , exploration of entire planets can only be made possible with procedural generation . Which will be added as expansion .

I'm expecting alien lifeforms on those planets

Roberts said, I think at the PAX demo, that you can collect life forms and objects and show them off in your ship or house or whatnot

Yes you can . He said that , it'll be like a trophy that you can be proud of since you traveled to unknown space to collect all those unique items and living organisms (He mentioned fish) .

Did he say anything about other alien species who are sentinel that we will encounter that we might end up fighting

Oh shit that reminds me about the aliens in the games weren;t there hostile ones we might encounter

Sounds great if that's the case. My time for gaming is limited these days and getting into deep sim type games, like Civ 5 really isn't practical.

Yea I heard there were multiple ones in the universe not sure what they will do I think you can fight them in space

Quite a few alien species already known in the game's lore.

The Banu are friendly to humans (clan structure, a trader culture).

The Xi'An are reptilian humanoids. There was a long cold war between them and the human empire.

The Tevarin were vanquished by humanity and what's left of them has been assimilated by the human empire.

The Kr'thak (or something like it) are the Xi'An's arch enemies, and humans know close to nothing about them.

And then you have the Vanduul: a nomadic, warrior race, that threatens many human systems with their raiding parties. Their ships are impressive:

Holy shit the Xi'an concept on the bottom left. That's amazing.

What ships did everyone get? I only have a 325A

I want a Freelancer.

You mean this one?

Looks great indeed.

I pledged for many ships :p

My personal favourite is the Retaliator.. Or maybe the Avenger.. Love Aegis' designs!

you stole this video from level cap and posted it as ur own.

good quality raw screenshots from pax demo

source https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/120693/some-pure-screenshots-of-dfm/p1

@hofuldig:

um what? I found it on youtube

@napo_sp said:

good quality raw screenshots from pax demo

source https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/120693/some-pure-screenshots-of-dfm/p1

I'll put some in the front

PC the best.

Yes , it was known since the beginning . Star Citizen does have intelligent Alien Races like Vanduul , Banu , Xi'AN etc . Single Player storyline will focus on war between Humans and Vanduul .

so, what resolution will this be on the ps4? :P

this is looking awesome, cant wait!

0px @ 0fps

Any ground combat in this game or is it all spaceships?

Yes there is ground combat as well . It'll be tactical and not mindless unlike COD .

Campaign will have 70% action in ship and 30% ground combat + free roaming aboard Bangal Carrier and you can interact with other characters between missions .

Star Citizen is slowly becoming the game I wished Mass Effect would've been. I will not argue against the Star Citizen = GOAT...the more I see of this game I seriously need to calm down.

yes..they have a separate team working on the FPS portion of the game

Please no, that would have been horrible. Character driven RPG saga where you spend 70% of your time in a 1-man cockpit?

You'd just be Joker the whole series lol

there are ships that require 10+ players to maintain.

Seth Green: Wing Commander. 10/10

Wow, thank goodness we have online chat or that would be impossible, unless they were a hive mind...also impossible.

There are lot of multiple crew ships . The story starts on Idris Frigate , which is huge space ship then later in the story you'll go to Bangal carrier which is over 2 Kilometers long . Much bigger than Normandy , with plenty of time to interact with crew until you go to briefing room for your next mission . Not to mention your fellow Wing men will fly with you on each mission . Some missions will put you in single seated dog fighter , others will put you in multi crew ships manning turrets , others will be on ground FPS etc . Just like Wing Commander or Mass Effect , protagonist can communicate with your squad when on mission . Hell , if you play online or with LAN , your friends can take over AI and can control your squad member . You can play entire story like this . This is something that Mass Effect should've featured as well , instead they wasted their resources on PVE multiplayer .

There are a lot of exploration elements to this game as well . Exploring the unknown , cities , new star systems , landing on planets , finding abandoned bases , alien wrecks , there are going to be even underwater cities . And yes you can go wherever you want , it is fully open world .

While all that not only sounds ambitious but awesome as well, Bioware didn't waste resources on ME3s PVE mp, I spent more time in that that any other mp game all last gen. I still occasionally watch streams of it and do some solo-gold runs.

But back to Star Citizen, yes that all sounds great.

@milannoir: .....and the Kilrathi. Pups have been exterminated by no other than Skywalker himself.

It would have been better than what we got in ME2/3, which was a glorified third-person shooter with "choices".