Square Enix, MS,Award Shows and eurogamer firing

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#1 Posted by super600 (31198 posts) -

A confusing story has appeared on the web.It involves the firing of a Eurogamer worker for writing an article that broke a law and a bunch of stuff that may be downright confusing.Here's a summary of this crazy incident.

  • Keighley surrounded by doritos followed by gaming bloggers retweeting a hashtag for advertising to win a PS3 makes Florence of Eurogamer curious.
  • Florence writes an article saying how things are shady and some sound like straight up PR e.g. Wainright orgasms for everything Squenix.
  • Eurogamer/Wainwright send libel threats to Eurogamer, at which the article was edited to remove mentioning of Wainright.
  • Wainwright responds in twitter "Apology accepted" and something in the vain of applying her law classes to use.
  • Florence either steps down or is forced to resign to avoid any libel threat.
  • Both sides deny any threat or are not talking about it directly, but twitter posts hint that such threat existed. Florence is not confirming or denying whether he was fired or he stepped down.
  • "GAF and **** combine forces to see this standalone complex issue" alongside digital protest from Penny Arcade and more, showing what happened.
  • Wainwright's profile shows she is a freelancer for Square Enix. She admitted it and denied doing any reviews for Square Enix or shilling (she is wrong. She reviewed Deus Ex, Tomb Raider and did countless previews).
  • All this fiasco is too much for her and she privatize her twitter account. Next thing you know, she starts deleting tweets, videos and articles, and edits her profile to remove any mention of Square Enix freelancing.
  • People find some comments of her thanking someone called Korina that used to work at Ubisoft.
  • Korina Abbotused to work at Ubisoft and is currently the marketing executive at...Square-Enix.
  • David Jaffe offers Keighley Mountain Dew.
  • Gaming journalism.

From Neogaf

Link to article

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-24-lost-humanity-18-a-table-of-doritos

This is just insane and crazy.

#2 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
And there are still some idiots here who pretend gaming journalism is professional and unbiased. How naive can you get? or is it chosen stupidity?
#3 Posted by Obviously_Right (5324 posts) -

Trying to come up with a succint method of expressing how few fvcks I give that some gaming hack got fired.

#4 Posted by super600 (31198 posts) -

And there are still some idiots here who pretend gaming journalism is professional and unbiased. How naive can you get? or is it chosen stupidity?kuraimen

It's professional, but it's biased depending on the source.Everyone has a bias, but some sources like smaller websites can be have less of a biased if they don't heavily favour a console/or handheld.

#5 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (9533 posts) -
can be have less of a biased if they don't heavily favour a console/or handheldsuper600
You don't say?
#6 Posted by razgriz_101 (16871 posts) -

the guy who wrote this article thatthe yanks are pissed about actually makes one of the biggest comedies in scotland right now called burnistoun.

I stand by Robert cause tbh what he said is pretty spot on with the American ideology of journalism and in general the farse known as gaming journalism these days best laugh is he's a better writer than half the so called muppets and not to mention the guys a passionate gamer helped write a show with cult viewing based off videogames years ago and writes for one of BBC's biggest comedies for the Scottish region.

I sincerely think sacking him is overzealous and kinda proves a point bout how gaming journalism is a farse.

#7 Posted by Meeeper282 (1597 posts) -

SDC?

#8 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (9533 posts) -

SDC?

Meeeper282
Sure why not?
#9 Posted by GhoX (5366 posts) -
Gaming journalism is gradually dying to youtube/twitch.
#10 Posted by charizard1605 (62627 posts) -
Xbox 360 has no games
#11 Posted by razgriz_101 (16871 posts) -

Gaming journalism is gradually dying to youtube/twitch.GhoX

true, the people attacking rab aswell are complete idiots aswell.

Rab's done more in the past few years than they done in their entire career.

#12 Posted by Sagem28 (10498 posts) -

This whole situation is disgusting.

But who are we kidding ? Gaming is dying.

#13 Posted by Zen_Light (1764 posts) -

Reviewing games is big advertising business and nothing else. Anyone who believes it is honest and about love for the hobby is suffering from ignorant/delusional bliss.

#14 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (9533 posts) -
Xbox 360 has no games charizard1605
It only does monthly fees. Lol DVD. Kinect. It also only does ads. Lems be cry. Yabba-Dabba Do.
#15 Posted by razgriz_101 (16871 posts) -

Reviewing games is big advertising business and nothing else. Anyone who believes it is honest and about love for the hobby is suffering from ignorant/delusional bliss.

Zen_Light

One of the guys from RPS wrote this and its bang on.

http://botherer.org/2012/10/24/games-journalists-and-the-perception-of-corruption/

Publishers and editors need to remeber their place.

#16 Posted by Gxgear (10425 posts) -

You OP is fail, but the article delivers.

#17 Posted by KiZZo1 (3974 posts) -

600x-1

Maaaan, this guy is surrounded by cool stuff and it really shows ...

#18 Posted by Sagem28 (10498 posts) -

600x-1

Maaaan, this guy is surrounded by cool stuff and it really shows ...

KiZZo1

That look in his eyes..

He seems dead inside.

#19 Posted by JohnF111 (14125 posts) -
Gaming professionals are biased? YOU DON'T SAY! That wainwright sounds like she deserved everything she got, I hate that kind of level of bias, it's just ridiculous.
#20 Posted by KiZZo1 (3974 posts) -

Gaming professionals are biased? YOU DON'T SAY! That wainwright sounds like she deserved everything she got, I hate that kind of level of bias, it's just ridiculous.JohnF111

szKeL.jpg

EXP:lol:SED

#21 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (9533 posts) -

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Gaming professionals are biased? YOU DON'T SAY! That wainwright sounds like she deserved everything she got, I hate that kind of level of bias, it's just ridiculous.KiZZo1

szKeL.jpg

EXP:lol:SED

I wouldn't mind seeing her "exposed". :twisted:
#22 Posted by TheEroica (14617 posts) -
And there are still some idiots here who pretend gaming journalism is professional and unbiased. How naive can you get? or is it chosen stupidity?kuraimen
Yet you champion metacritic which grabs all those shady reviews and reviewers and hoists them up on a pillar of truth... checkmate?
#23 Posted by TheEroica (14617 posts) -

Reviewing games is big advertising business and nothing else. Anyone who believes it is honest and about love for the hobby is suffering from ignorant/delusional bliss.

Zen_Light
The entire mentality of "core gamers" is delusional... well, most of them.... our thinking hasnt progressed beyond the desire to keep a traditional control interface and the industry has evolved into a massive business... and people wonder why the core gamer isnt cared for anymore...
#24 Posted by KiZZo1 (3974 posts) -

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]And there are still some idiots here who pretend gaming journalism is professional and unbiased. How naive can you get? or is it chosen stupidity?TheEroica
Yet you champion metacritic which grabs all those shady reviews and reviewers and hoists them up on a pillar of truth... checkmate?

An average of honest and shady reviews is always going to be closer to the truth than just the shady reviews ... checkmate?

#25 Posted by TheEroica (14617 posts) -

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]And there are still some idiots here who pretend gaming journalism is professional and unbiased. How naive can you get? or is it chosen stupidity?KiZZo1

Yet you champion metacritic which grabs all those shady reviews and reviewers and hoists them up on a pillar of truth... checkmate?

An average of honest and shady reviews is always going to be closer to the truth than just the shady reviews ... checkmate?

youre joking right? that just makes it all sound even worse... but whatever you choose to follow and "accept" is up to you... Im a fan of playing the game and not getting your panties in a bunch over a number. game over?
#26 Posted by Sushiglutton (5592 posts) -
It's very problematic that game media primarily get their money from the game companies (through advertising) and not the readers. A regular paper has so many sources of invome that pissing off a company or two is no problemo. A site like gamespot must stay overall friendly with EA/Ubi/MS/Sony and it affects the journalism. One example is how positive and uncritical almost every preview is.
#27 Posted by KiZZo1 (3974 posts) -

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] Yet you champion metacritic which grabs all those shady reviews and reviewers and hoists them up on a pillar of truth... checkmate?TheEroica

An average of honest and shady reviews is always going to be closer to the truth than just the shady reviews ... checkmate?

youre joking right? that just makes it all sound even worse... but whatever you choose to follow and "accept" is up to you... Im a fan of playing the game and not getting your panties in a bunch over a number. game over?

Yeah, it sounds crazy, but I actually like to inform myself on a product before buying it ... works pretty good so far.

#28 Posted by TheEroica (14617 posts) -

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

An average of honest and shady reviews is always going to be closer to the truth than just the shady reviews ... checkmate?

KiZZo1

youre joking right? that just makes it all sound even worse... but whatever you choose to follow and "accept" is up to you... Im a fan of playing the game and not getting your panties in a bunch over a number. game over?

Yeah, it sounds crazy, but I actually like to inform myself on a product before buying it ... works pretty good so far.

The point my friend is that all reviews no matter their bias and influence exist with the understanding that they are an opinion within the written word. A numerical score is nothing more than a bold headline... the only person who can make an absolute review is the gamer. Every review outside of that is suggestion.
#29 Posted by immortality20 (8015 posts) -

What a useless read, it has nothing to do with the game industry and just stupid squabbling.

#30 Posted by Sagem28 (10498 posts) -

What a useless read, it has nothing to do with the game industry and just stupid squabbling.

immortality20

Oh boy...

#31 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (9598 posts) -

It's very hard to earn a living being a "professional journalist" in any source, you have to rely on sponsorships to feed yourself and pay the bills and the constant pressure from the readers to write a well thought article.

#32 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]And there are still some idiots here who pretend gaming journalism is professional and unbiased. How naive can you get? or is it chosen stupidity?TheEroica
Yet you champion metacritic which grabs all those shady reviews and reviewers and hoists them up on a pillar of truth... checkmate?

For SW purposes? nah, at least it's better than championing one. All the biases at least get somehow balanced.
#33 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28557 posts) -
Im confused....not very clear summary as for that why do you mention MS in the title I assume thats microsoft but Ive not seen them mentioned at all.... @kuiraman you are such a god damned fool in your world there is bias only where microsoft is concerned.
#34 Posted by Heil68 (48266 posts) -
That's pretty interesting.
#35 Posted by super600 (31198 posts) -

Im confused....not very clear summary as for that why do you mention MS in the title I assume thats microsoft but Ive not seen them mentioned at all.... @kuiraman you are such a god damned fool in your world there is bias only where microsoft is concerned.WilliamRLBaker

MS has something to do with that poster from Geoff.