Spencer "20% GPU boost to The One DX12" (Unconfirmed)

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#101  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@Desmonic said:

@daious said:

I really wish people could read the update.

"Update: Due to a misunderstanding caused by an interruption in the livestream, the original article mistakenly mentioned that the 20% GPU usage improvement was on Xbox One, but Spencer actually did not explicitly mention a platform."

Well then. Kinda looks like the official PR is correct then, the improvement is for the PC (or the Fable Legends PC version at least).

So chances of thread backfire increases by 20%?

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#102 Ghost120x
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It will be interesting to see the gap close as the gen comes to an end. The launch ps2 games looked pretty awful, but the games got significantly better over time. This kind of stuff happens all the time and it will even happen to the PS4 in some way.

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#103 silversix_
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CoD: AW in 2014=720p+55-60fps. DX12, CoD:2015=720p+57-60fps. Next generation is here.

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#104 intotheminx
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when is this XB1/Windows update?

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#105 slimdogmilionar
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@daious: yea but the current Starm Swarm test only test against Dx11, they have not yet released the Dx12 version, so thats why I said the whole thing about Dx12 performance increase being about the same as Mantle. Even in the worst case scenario I doubt the performance will drop that much. I'm just going by the benchmarks I've seen so far and my own experience running the test, but I highly doubt PC will only see a 20% increase.

PS. actually my math was wrong before I said a 240% increase. I went from average 20-21 fps to around 48-50 fps so thats actually like a 150% increase.

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#106 Zero_epyon
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@silversix_ said:

CoD: AW in 2014=720p+55-60fps. DX12, CoD:2015=720p+57-60fps. Next generation is here.

C'mon it's not that bad. I'd say with DX12 they can get CoD to run at 792p and 57-60.

hehe

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#107 FoxbatAlpha
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@silversix_ said:

CoD: AW in 2014=720p+55-60fps. DX12, CoD:2015=720p+57-60fps. Next generation is here.

The Order: 1886 800p@28fps............on DX11. Sorry DX12 not available in your area. 5/10 bye.

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#108 lglz1337
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@FoxbatAlpha: bahahahahahaha this guy thinks XposBone has 2015 components.

yes that's right MS is a software company that cannot make hardware properly as you can see with that weak ass GPU and gddr3 lol so old school. DX12 will do nothing only keeping your hopes up as you can see it makes you excited for nothing LOL.

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#109 FoxbatAlpha
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@FoxbatAlpha: bahahahahahaha this guy thinks XposBone has 2015 components.

yes that's right MS is a software company that cannot make hardware properly as you can see with that weak ass GPU and gddr3 lol so old school. DX12 will do nothing only keeping your hopes up as you can see it makes you excited for nothing LOL.

Every chip in the Xbox is custom made. You better learn that. Hell you should have learned that 2 years ago. There is no hope. Only a bonus from here on out.

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#110  Edited By lglz1337
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@FoxbatAlpha: LMAO and ps4 is not ? stop kidding yourself ps4 is even more customized then XposBone.

GPGPU will give a better and reasonable advantage not this pr dx12 crap.

you being goofed by MS as always

"here we give you sonething to hold on"

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#111  Edited By lamprey263
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Cross-buy has potential to be big I'd think... then again, people don't seem to keen on other digital distribution methods that aren't Steam or GOG or whatever. People seem to hate publisher retail clients like EA Origins or Uplay. Though, I wonder if this cross-buy method will get traction. I'm already buying my Xbox One games digitally, it's nice to know if I get a gaming PC down the line that I'll have a nice collection of ready to play games at my disposal. I'm not sure PC gamers will feel the same way though, buying PC games on the Microsoft store/client to have access to the console versions if they should ever get one; kind of doubtful the attraction will go the other way.

Also, let's say it does get traction, surely services like Steam won't like MS trying to take away some of their market for digital distribution. I'm curious whether Valve will team up with Sony like they did for the Portal 2 release and do a Sony/Steam cross-buy system. If that were to happen it'd be a big blow to Microsoft, but in the long run it'd be better for the consumers to have such a feature.

From MS's end they should try to beat Sony to the punch by trying to bridge into the service for rights sharing with Steam. I think as doubtful as an MS/Valvepartnership is, if MS gives Valve a substantial chunk of of it's gaming revenue streams then maybe Valve can be a benefit to MS on other ends like managing their game sales and marketplace pricing.

But, realistically I don't see Valve and MS ever partnering up. I like MS, but from a popularity contest MS is toxic, and it could hurt Valve's bottom line. And Valve was rather skeptical (even alarmist) of MS after Windows 8 thinking they were going to go for a controlled operating system that wasn't open, hence they developed the Steam OS, Linux client, and worked on Linux compatibility... either that, or, they always wanted to get the Steambox rolling, and all the Linux stuff was avoiding paying the licensing costs to MS for Windows to make games compatible (or maybe all the above).

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#112  Edited By silversix_
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@silversix_ said:

CoD: AW in 2014=720p+55-60fps. DX12, CoD:2015=720p+57-60fps. Next generation is here.

The Order: 1886 800p@28fps............on DX11. Sorry DX12 not available in your area. 5/10 bye.

The order is one game while your DX12 boost is HOPE for your system, a laughable savior that won't do anything lolz. By the time this thing comes out and is fully utilized in games, Xbone 2 will be rumored and hype train will change track. Also, looks like you don't even know what's 800p, not surprised there but i'll post a picture of The Order so you get mad at it looking better than anything you'll EVER see on x1. Enjoy the picture and when you go to sleep, dream about your DX12 achieving this kind of visuals hah

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#113 FoxbatAlpha
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@lglz1337 said:

@FoxbatAlpha: LMAO and ps4 is not ? stop kidding yourself ps4 is even more customized then XposBone.

GPGPU will give a better and reasonable advantage not this pr dx12 crap.

you being goofed by MS as always

PS4 is horsepower. No doubt. Xbox ONE is built so it uses less with less. We just have to wait to take advantage of that. I am sorry that things are already to close for you as far as resolution and frame rates but don't worry. Xbox ONE will not blow PS4 out of the water. That isn't what anyone is saying here.

Any benefit is welcome. You should cover yourself in a big, warm Xbox blanket and fell the love that is Microsoft.

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#114  Edited By lglz1337
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@FoxbatAlpha: man shut up already you and TC got shot down already!

see update: Update: For PC, Xbox One stay weak!

you can stop the XposBone dx12 boost crap now MS decided to correct themself before shitstorm bite in their ass!

and @kuu BOOM in you *** thread backfire LOL

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#115 FoxbatAlpha
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@silversix_ said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

@silversix_ said:

CoD: AW in 2014=720p+55-60fps. DX12, CoD:2015=720p+57-60fps. Next generation is here.

The Order: 1886 800p@28fps............on DX11. Sorry DX12 not available in your area. 5/10 bye.

The order is one game while your DX12 boost is HOPE for your system, a laughable savior that won't do anything lolz. By the time this thing comes out and is fully utilized in games, Xbone 2 will be rumored and hype train will change track. Also, looks like you don't even know what's 800p, not surprised there but i'll post a picture of The Order so you get mad at it looking better than anything you'll EVER see on x1. Enjoy the picture and when you go to sleep, dream about your DX12 achieving this kind of visuals hah

Better than anything I will see on a Xbox. How does it play? Don't answer that. 5/10 coming to mind. but you were talking about the graphics. 50% muh powa *cough, cough* didn't get that game at 1080p/60fps. When that happens wake me.

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#116  Edited By Shewgenja
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Just read the update..

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#117  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@Zero_epyon said:

@FastRobby said:

@Zero_epyon said:

@FastRobby said:

@Zero_epyon said:

So basically, no dramatic change like it was expected. And that's supposing that the game implements any features from DX12 that's relevant to the game. Not only that, a game needs to be written in DX12 from the ground up in order to get that 20% boost. I wonder how many developers are going to be willing to do that?

Almost all because it will also work on PC then... Written in DX12, ported to PS4

Assuming almost all developers use the PC as their lead platform. That's very unlikely.

PC+Xbox One > PS4

In what way?

Development costs

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#118 Chutebox
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@daious said:

I really wish people could read the update.

"Update: Due to a misunderstanding caused by an interruption in the livestream, the original article mistakenly mentioned that the 20% GPU usage improvement was on Xbox One, but Spencer actually did not explicitly mention a platform."

LOL

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#119 FoxbatAlpha
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@lglz1337 said:

@FoxbatAlpha: man shut up already you and TC got shot down already!

see update: Update: For PC, Xbox One stay weak!

you can stop the XposBone dx12 boost crap now MS decided to correct themself before shitstorm bite in their ass!

So you can go back to believing that DX12 will do absolutely nothing for the Xbox. You seem happier that way.

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#120 silversix_
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@FoxbatAlpha: you're so frustrated right now lol

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#121  Edited By lglz1337
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@FoxbatAlpha: sure it will, but 20% you fooling yourself i saw this bs crap from a mile, you didn't sadly!

XPosBone is a weak ass system understand that dx12 will not save it!

bbbbb bbbut it will a tiny bit lol dat goalpost

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#122 FoxbatAlpha
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@lglz1337 said:

@FoxbatAlpha: sure it will, but 20% you fooling yourself i saw this bs crap from a mile, you didn't sadly!

XPosBone is a weak ass system understand that dx12 will not save it!

bbbbb bbbut it will a tiny bit lol dat goalpost

The Xbox does not need saving. Thanks for your concern though.

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#123 lglz1337
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@FoxbatAlpha: you're right it's already dead my mistake.

you cannot save something that's already dead

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#124 FoxbatAlpha
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@silversix_ said:

@FoxbatAlpha: you're so frustrated right now lol

At what? the 20%? Did you see all the games announced today? Sony would have sent out VIP passes and hyped that for months to announced something as big as that. Xbox just does it for the gamers and not the hype.

Sony devoted a large chunk of its E3 to indies last year. Microsoft is saving that stage time for more valuable bombs.

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#125 Heil68
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So I guess PS4 is only 30% more powerful then?

Will this get MS to current gen 8 console leader????

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#126 Shewgenja
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Well, since people came to this thread expecting power boosts, why leave empty handed?

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/11/23/ps4-sdk-2-0-revealed-includes-a-lot-of-interesting-new-tech-and-features-game-developers-can-use/

http://gamingbolt.com/ps4-ice-team-programmer-surface-tilingdetiling-on-the-cpu-is-10-100x-faster-now

http://gamingbolt.com/how-sony-are-pushing-for-60fps-on-ps4-razor-gpucpu-profiler-and-linker-optimizations-detailed

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#127 FoxbatAlpha
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@Shewgenja said:

Well, since people came to this thread expecting power boosts, why leave empty handed?

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/11/23/ps4-sdk-2-0-revealed-includes-a-lot-of-interesting-new-tech-and-features-game-developers-can-use/

http://gamingbolt.com/ps4-ice-team-programmer-surface-tilingdetiling-on-the-cpu-is-10-100x-faster-now

http://gamingbolt.com/how-sony-are-pushing-for-60fps-on-ps4-razor-gpucpu-profiler-and-linker-optimizations-detailed

LOL, Sony imitate, not innovate. They have secret sauce now. Oh but let me guess, this is real because Sony said so, more than Microsoft saying it was real.

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#128  Edited By TorqueHappens08
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What a tsiwt

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#129  Edited By Daious
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@Desmonic said:

@daious said:

I really wish people could read the update.

"Update: Due to a misunderstanding caused by an interruption in the livestream, the original article mistakenly mentioned that the 20% GPU usage improvement was on Xbox One, but Spencer actually did not explicitly mention a platform."

Well then. Kinda looks like the official PR is correct then, the improvement is for the PC (or the Fable Legends PC version at least).

Yes, the official PR is correct. It was a big misunderstanding. Phil did not state that the 20% increase was for the xboxone like it was originally claimed.

Articles are already being updated because news outlets got the stream.

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#130  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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Everyone can calm down about the 20% power thingy on Xbox ONE. It's real and gaf tried to shoot it down but here is the pudding.

http://www.windowscentral.com/what-microsoft-revealed-about-xbox-and-windows-10-today-gdc

  • Microsoft doesn't count the sales in the Windows 8 store as a success (as in sales volume was lower than they wanted)
  • Cross platform gaming is going to include cross-buy as well. Buy from one device, download and play on another device
  • Developers will submit their apps and games into one store. This store includes Xbox One as well
  • Pinball FX2 is coming to Windows 10 (free if already bought on Xbox One)
  • Xbox Live SDK Preview is going live today
  • DirectX 12 adds a 20% GPU boost to the Xbox One
  • A Universal Development center will allow devs to develop games from one application
  • Xbox will bring games to Hololens
  • HoloLens APK should be available around the time of BUILD
  • Implementing crossplay is "super simple and easy"
  • ID@Xbox is now helping devs for Windows 10, including Phones
  • Porting Shovel Knight to Xbox One and implementing cross play only took 1 day for the devs of the Yacht Club
  • Game 4 from Behemoth is coming to Windows 10, as well as Swordy, This War of Mine, Wasteland 2, Cuphead, Shovel Knight
  • Battletoads are coming to Shovel Knight
  • A wireless adapter for Xbox One controllers to work with Windows 10 will be coming out later this year
    • Gigantic from Motiga is a shooter, moba, rpg mash up coming later this year to Windows 10 and Xbox One
    • Phil Spencer is teasing that most first party games will be available for both platforms

    We'll have more on Microsoft at GDC later today and tomorrow. As soon as the stream from today's event is posted, we'll let you know! Stay tuned.

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#131 lglz1337
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LMAO dat neogaf thread reading it is amusing.

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#132 Desmonic  Moderator
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@FoxbatAlpha: Nope. No mention of it on the official MS written PR and it seems Phil himself never said it. Sorry bro :P

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#133 lglz1337
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@FoxbatAlpha: you really trying now stop it that article is debunked you can quit now!

you fooling yourself even more

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I don't understand what the Xbox fanboys are so hyped about. The PS4 has more powerful hardware then the Xbone and it has already shown that. Even if Direct X 12 gives it a 20% boost which now we are not even a 100% sure of, will that finally make it on par with the PS4? The hardware is not changing it's just going to be better optimized, which the same can be done with the PS4 so this is basically a wash. Now the real announcement is a new Battletoads but who is going to develop it? Hopefully not Rare.

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#135 Shewgenja
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@tymeservesfate said:

Xbox One be like.

But no really, all the news that came out has been great. They are really trying some new stuff here that will be great for gaming as a whole.

http://news.xbox.com/2015/03/xbox-gdc-2015?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

XBone's final form has been revealed.

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#136 lglz1337
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@Shewgenja: LMAO

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#137 Zero_epyon
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@daious said:
@Desmonic said:

@daious said:

I really wish people could read the update.

"Update: Due to a misunderstanding caused by an interruption in the livestream, the original article mistakenly mentioned that the 20% GPU usage improvement was on Xbox One, but Spencer actually did not explicitly mention a platform."

Well then. Kinda looks like the official PR is correct then, the improvement is for the PC (or the Fable Legends PC version at least).

Yes, the official PR is correct. Phil never said it.The stream said nothing about the 20% increase and the xboxone. Articles are already being updated because news outlets are got the stream.

So thread backfire

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#138  Edited By deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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Oh boy, what a backfire lol

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#139  Edited By kinectthedots
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DEVISTATING THREAD BACKFIRE!!!

"Update: Due to a misunderstanding caused by an interruption in the livestream, the original article mistakenly mentioned that the 20% GPU usage improvement was on Xbox One, but Spencer actually did not explicitly mention a platform."

LOL at lems in complete damage control after making fools of themselves when this undeniable correction is in their face.

It sounded silly to begin with a 20% boost on a fixed console that is already a year old? Like I originally said the word, "boost" is misleading in the first place, they can only release/unlock a reserve that is not being used. Lems here seem pretty dumb to begin with expecting xbone's 7770 GPU to be "boosted" to something like a 7970 anyway lol.

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#140 FoxbatAlpha
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@lglz1337 said:

@FoxbatAlpha: you really trying now stop it that article is debunked you can quit now!

you fooling yourself even more

Up until an hour ago I never heard of DX12 doing any GPU benefit.

You act like my life work is down the drain. It is not. Xbox lives and continues to get better GPU bene or not.

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#141 Zero_epyon
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@FastRobby: Development costs? Proof?

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#142 Shewgenja
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The real question here is what this says about people and even the gaming media's willingness to accept any shred of possible good news for the Xbox?

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#143 lglz1337
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@FoxbatAlpha: how does it feel sitting in a corner ?

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#144 Zero_epyon
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@Shewgenja said:

Well, since people came to this thread expecting power boosts, why leave empty handed?

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/11/23/ps4-sdk-2-0-revealed-includes-a-lot-of-interesting-new-tech-and-features-game-developers-can-use/

http://gamingbolt.com/ps4-ice-team-programmer-surface-tilingdetiling-on-the-cpu-is-10-100x-faster-now

http://gamingbolt.com/how-sony-are-pushing-for-60fps-on-ps4-razor-gpucpu-profiler-and-linker-optimizations-detailed

And like DX12, none of that will matter if developers don't use it, or don't need it.

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#145 FoxbatAlpha
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@lglz1337 said:

@FoxbatAlpha: how does it feel sitting in a corner ?

Kinda reminds me of that happy ending I got in Chinatown the other week. You expect one thing and come out thinking what just happened, surreal, even enlightened. You become wiser and continue on your path. Good enough answer since I don't have any idea what you are talking about?

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#147  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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I'm going to laugh if for once the secret sauce actually comes to fruition.

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#148 FoxbatAlpha
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Meanwhile, Sony talked a littleabout Project Morpheus at GDC today. Great job guys!!!

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#149 lostrib
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@scottpsfan14: perhaps read the thread

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#150 GabensHerald
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@Shewgenja said:

Well, since people came to this thread expecting power boosts, why leave empty handed?

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/11/23/ps4-sdk-2-0-revealed-includes-a-lot-of-interesting-new-tech-and-features-game-developers-can-use/

http://gamingbolt.com/ps4-ice-team-programmer-surface-tilingdetiling-on-the-cpu-is-10-100x-faster-now

http://gamingbolt.com/how-sony-are-pushing-for-60fps-on-ps4-razor-gpucpu-profiler-and-linker-optimizations-detailed

Dualshillers and MisterTiduxMedia. Pfffffwaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha. This is getting embarassing both sides think there's some "Sekeret Sauce"

Face it. Neither will be getting any boosts and will make do with their "silky smooth 30FPS" and "Perfectly fine 900P" for the rest of the generation. And we still have the comedy of Sony trying to convince everyone 720P is perfectly OK now the Morpheus does it too. It will be like Ken Kurtagi never left!