Sony's PS3 Disappointment Timeline Continued

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#251 Posted by EmperorMetalman (1832 posts) -
Easily one of the better threads I've seen on Sony's behavior over the past year. Not only are they unapologetic in their arrogance, they can't hold onto games, and can't make systems to satisfy the dwindling demand.

If 2007 doesn't see a big turnaround for them, I can only pity early adopters who should have opted for the alternative experience which at the time and remains currently as far better.
Sagacious_Tien

One year later, there will be too many PS3s and not enough demand
#252 Posted by CajunShooter (5272 posts) -
but now I see that this company shouldn't even be trusted with the way they treat their competition and consumers.FutonForensic
HAHA, yeah M$ is by far the worse at treating their competition.
#253 Posted by Sol_Rosenberg84 (202 posts) -
He gathered all THOSE (not "them", this is english) to make people like YOU understand that Sony has been arrogant, and their arrogance has and will continue to hurt them badly this generation. The PS3 has not broken the 1 million console mark and the Wii has already broken the 2 million mark; the 360 continues to sell steadily at over 9 million sold (currently selling faster than original Xbox did). http://nexgenwars.com/ And Halo 3 is not the thing pushing 360 sales right now. The 360's superior game selection (compared to PS3) and current star shooter, Gears of War, is. Stop living in PS land, and come back to reality; its much nicer to live in the real world. Im not trying to offend you, I just wish that you would think about what you are posting on the web; you have no proof for anything you just posted. Zeroxing your opinion on the web with no supporting evidence just kills any point you were attempting to prove. Long Live Gaming!
#254 Posted by chrth (1173 posts) -
Just wanted to chime in and say "Great work" on assembling the timeline. Also:
Great job. If I didn't know better, I would think that Sony actually wanted the PS3 to fail... Hungry_Homer111
I've been of this opinion for awhile now.
#255 Posted by pop7934 (651 posts) -
Very good thread, very nice timeline and good job putting this all together with the links ^^
#256 Posted by mathew952 (976 posts) -
New Sony Screw ups: $2500 media center PS3 $125 added to cost from Bluray
#257 Posted by ZeroAlarm (597 posts) -
Nice factual thread. I'm sure Nintendo and MS don't have their fare share of scandals or disappointments, but this list is just immensely large. I for one have been going off Sony for a while (not just in their Video Games department) due to how they deceive and take their customers for granted. I'm sure if the average consumer knew what Sony takes them to be a piece of crap they would switch to another electronics brand.
#258 Posted by x_boyfriend (718 posts) -
I hardly ever post on the forums.

But this is definitely worth 'bumping'. Good job man.
#259 Posted by KufuuDAI (1686 posts) -
I can't belive people are actually trading in a PS3! I worked so hard to get it! They should just buy the Wii. It's cheap. I reccommend picking up an Xbox360 and a PS3. Yeah, no "Wii30" crap here. I think these consoles will last much longer than the Wii. The PS3 sucks right now because of the games, not the system itself. Give it some time for the better games to come out. The 360 is pretty good right now with its catalog of games. The Bottom Line: HARDWARE: PS3>Xbox360>Wii GAMES: Xbox360>Wii>PS3 WHAT I THINK OVERALL: PS3=360>Wii
#260 Posted by silverstar1982 (47 posts) -
[QUOTE="l1loneviet1l"][QUOTE="web966"]lol, Sony has had one bad year.GsSanAndreas
lol they had "3" bad years



how is it 3?

ps1 won
ps2 won and is still outselling 360, Wii, ps3, DS, PSP

Microsoft and Nintendo had garbag year last gen



http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/only-in-japan/nintendo-hardware-continues-takeover-of-japan-225181.php

Japan, week of Dec 18-25
- Nintendo DS Lite - 485,584
- Wii - 279,277
- PSP - 138,588
- PlayStation 3 - 76,882
- PlayStation 2 - 46,209
- Xbox 360 - 17,213

Wii outsells PSP, PS3, PS2 and X360 COMBINED

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTx2MAOspS4
(watch through)
Console hacking conference: PS3 "not worth" hacking. Linux only able to address half the RAM. 3D unusable. Cell SPUs unable to do floating point calculations.

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/plenty-o-ps3s-but-no-takers-225271.php

PS3 still can't sell. Even with a special event to try pushing them out the door.
#261 Posted by geist117 (4419 posts) -

It looks like this thread has another update. http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/plenty-o-ps3s-but-no-takers-225271.php

#262 Posted by junior-giggsy (923 posts) -
Sony is getting Nintendowned
#263 Posted by Dreams-Visions (26569 posts) -
[QUOTE="FutonForensic"]but now I see that this company shouldn't even be trusted with the way they treat their competition and consumers.CajunShooter
HAHA, yeah M$ is by far the worse at treating their competition.

SONY simply doesn't have enough control to "treat their competition" at all. they're just another fish in the pond of the gaming industry compared to Microsoft's Whale-like presence in the PC industry.
#264 Posted by Dreams-Visions (26569 posts) -
[QUOTE="KufuuDAI"]I can't belive people are actually trading in a PS3! I worked so hard to get it! They should just buy the Wii. It's cheap. I reccommend picking up an Xbox360 and a PS3. Yeah, no "Wii30" crap here. I think these consoles will last much longer than the Wii. The PS3 sucks right now because of the games, not the system itself. Give it some time for the better games to come out. The 360 is pretty good right now with its catalog of games. The Bottom Line: HARDWARE: PS3>Xbox360>Wii GAMES: Xbox360>Wii>PS3 WHAT I THINK OVERALL: PS3=360>Wii

:| but if you buy gaming systems to play GAMES...how do you have the PS3 and 360 equal? I mean if you think the 360 is superior in games, anyway.
#265 Posted by Darth_Stalin (8681 posts) -
Wow......I din't know VF5 was multi-plat....
#266 Posted by paullywog (14149 posts) -
damn. in gears terms, this is the down and halo 3 is the curbstomp.
#267 Posted by Darth_Stalin (8681 posts) -
"PS3 owners trying to upgrade to a Wii". - Inquirer :lol:
#268 Posted by Dreams-Visions (26569 posts) -
Wow......I din't know VF5 was multi-plat....Tulak_Hord
where the hell have you been?
#269 Posted by Darth_Stalin (8681 posts) -
[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"]Wow......I din't know VF5 was multi-plat....Dreams-Visions
where the hell have you been?

In a box :lol: My computer was down for about a month........ so I rarely used the web, until 3 days ago.....
#270 Posted by Dreams-Visions (26569 posts) -
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"]Wow......I din't know VF5 was multi-plat....Tulak_Hord
where the hell have you been?

In a box :lol: My computer was down for about a month........ so I rarely used the web, until 3 days ago.....

well welcome home, damn it. welcome home.
#271 Posted by omarguy01 (8138 posts) -
n people still wonder why sony's doing so bad
#272 Posted by Grafix2005 (303 posts) -
sigh... i wish this thread would convert all the sony fanboys now... theyre just too stubborn
#273 Posted by n00bslayer (378 posts) -
Nice Work man
#274 Posted by CaptainLunchbox (777 posts) -
Yeesh... That is so well-researched. Too bad it's great research about a year of ugly messes :(
#275 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (42879 posts) -
How about from E3 2001? I still love how Sony claimed the online system of the PS2 would allow instant messaging and streaming of media content from AOL and other companies. Ken Kutaragi, nicknamed the Father of the PlayStation, even claimed that the PlayStation 2 online network would be like, “jacking into the Matrix”.
#276 Posted by dokidokilove (3 posts) -
When I read this, part of me wanted to cry. It's incredible how much Sony lied this gen. Even if there are a few games I want on PS3, there's really nothing that's justifying spending that much money for a few games, it's highly outlandish. You see, without the trip to the eyes, the Sony fanboys were blind.
#277 Posted by CajunShooter (5272 posts) -
Even if there are a few games I want on PS3, there's really nothing that's justifying spending that much money for a few games, it's highly outlandish.dokidokilove
Well there is currently 325 announced games in development for the PS3 and most these games will be out within the next 3 years so I am sure there will be plenty of games that justify spending $600 for a system. Honestly, some of you people act like paying an extra $200 is an insane thing to do. Anyway, you get what you pay for and more as the system should cost more than $600.

Anyone without the mentality of a 3 year old, who wants everything at the moment, knows that the future is bright and is willing to wait for what should be an awesome year in 2007 for the PS3.

#278 Posted by momentai (12 posts) -

How about from E3 2001? I still love how Sony claimed the online system of the PS2 would allow instant messaging and streaming of media content from AOL and other companies. Ken Kutaragi, nicknamed the Father of the PlayStation, even claimed that the PlayStation 2 online network would be like, “jacking into the Matrix”.Stevo_the_gamer

And popular new games, like "50 Cent: Bulletproof" and "The Warriors," won't play on the 360 at all. The One Article to Rule Them All

Made me chuckle.  Will probably get a ps3, to compliment my Wii, if and when it comes down in price, but deffinately not getting those, so called, popular games.

#279 Posted by tacomh (1847 posts) -
sad to say, i still want one
#280 Posted by momentai (12 posts) -

-This is not a jab at you Cajun-

[QUOTE="dokidokilove"] Even if there are a few games I want on PS3, there's really nothing that's justifying spending that much money for a few games, it's highly outlandish.CajunShooter
Well there is currently 325 announced games in development for the PS3 and most these games will be out within the next 3 years so I am sure there will be plenty of games that justify spending $600 for a system. Honestly, some of you people act like paying an extra $200 is an insane thing to do. Anyway, you get what you pay for and more as the system should cost more than $600.

Anyone without the mentality of a 3 year old, who wants everything at the moment, knows that the future is bright and is willing to wait for what should be an awesome year in 2007 for the PS3.

2006-7, the launch years of a console, all fireworks, no substance.  There may be 325 games in/being developed, but the developers are creating games for a console that they don't even understand yet.  2008-9 are the years when sony's sleak number will shine.  Just like the big 3 (Xbox, Ps2 & GC), the games will get better regardless of console sales.  So, I propose a waiting game.  Anyone with me?

#281 Posted by CajunShooter (5272 posts) -

2006-7, the launch years of a console, all fireworks, no substance. There may be 325 games in/being developed, but the developers are creating games for a console that they don't even understand yet. 2008-9 are the years when sony's sleak number will shine. Just like the big 3 (Xbox, Ps2 & GC), the games will get better regardless of console sales. So, I propose a waiting game. Anyone with me?

momentai

Of course the games will always get better, but why wait for great games when the games coming out next year will still be better than games ever seen or played before. And who says the best games come at the very end of a console? FF7 came at the very beginning of the PS1s lifespan. It would really suck if you end up missing out on some great games.

#282 Posted by KeV-Unreal (3245 posts) -

"PS3 owners try to upgrade to a Wii"

:lol: LOL, TCHBO! now they want a Wii.

#283 Posted by buuzer0 (3792 posts) -

I don't know how actively the TC will update this thread, but here is some stuff that he might have missed that needs to be integrated here. Comes from the original timeline.

Nov. 20, 2006 - PS3 vs. Xbox360: A Developer's Perspective
Nov. 20, 2006 - Joystiq's Ongoing List of PS3 Annoyances
Nov. 21, 2006 - Gamestop reveals PS3 has very low attach rate
Nov. 25, 2006 - Nov. 25 - Sony retracts 1080i fix statement
Dec. 6, 2006 - Interesting article on future of HD-DVD and Blu Ray
Dec. 7, 2006 - Gamespot's 360 vs. PS3 Comparison... they choose 360 at this point
Dec. 20, 2006 - Article - Fervor for the PS3 is dying down
Dec. 20, 2006 - Time Magazine says PS3 is a bust...
Dec. 20, 2006 - PC World Calls PS3 a top tech mistake of 2006
Jan. 2, 2007: PS3's in stock...but no one wants them Taken from the forum post here.

#284 Posted by beyondgamez (1335 posts) -
lmao this is a funny thread..didnt the cow made one for the 360 but the mod end up closing it..haha..they should close this one too..and fact that this is last year and this is a new year..
#285 Posted by buuzer0 (3792 posts) -
The timelines are not constrained to 2006... if you notice, the disappointment reaches into 2005 and there will no doubt be more letdowns in 2007.
#286 Posted by momentai (12 posts) -

Sony Console Launch Plan

  1. [The First Launch] Set a high price tag, and wow the RICH techheads with their new console idea (ps1-oooh look cds, ps2-oooh look DVD's ps3-oooh look BluRay) during the first few months.
  2. Create a stock shortage, so few normal people can buy it.  Wait until more games are released. (they've got the demand, why supply until you're ready).
  3. [The Second Launch] Restock, Drop the price, so normal people can and will buy it (Mmm, Eye Candy!)
  4. Then, churn out all sorts of games, Big releases and all manner of crap ones with the amazing ones tucked away.

Of course the games will always get better, but why wait for great games when the games coming out next year will still be better than games ever seen or played before. And who says the best games come at the very end of a console? FF7 came at the very beginning of the PS1s lifespan. It would really suck if you end up missing out on some great games.CajunShooter

Because you can still play the launch games if you want to when the system actually becomes affordable.

#287 Posted by momentai (12 posts) -
I don't think the casual gamer has really taken a look into any of those articles. They just want to know when -insert famous EA branded/Movie licensed game- is out. Although I've heard that theres a general concensus that the PS3 is way too expensive.  It would probably start selling well in a couple of months or so when more games come out (roll on The Second Launch [see my previous post]).
#288 Posted by CajunShooter (5272 posts) -
[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]Of course the games will always get better, but why wait for great games when the games coming out next year will still be better than games ever seen or played before. And who says the best games come at the very end of a console? FF7 came at the very beginning of the PS1s lifespan. It would really suck if you end up missing out on some great games.momentai

Because you can still play the launch games if you want to when the system actually becomes affordable.

So 3 years down the road you will have to be spending a lot more money buying the current good games as well as the good games from the previous years? I would rather buy them as they come out.
#289 Posted by haols (2348 posts) -
Wow, just wow. I never realised that SONY had gained that much bad press. I knew they had a sucking year, but this bad, hillarious :lol:
#290 Posted by momentai (12 posts) -
[QUOTE="momentai"][QUOTE="CajunShooter"]Of course the games will always get better, but why wait for great games when the games coming out next year will still be better than games ever seen or played before. And who says the best games come at the very end of a console? FF7 came at the very beginning of the PS1s lifespan. It would really suck if you end up missing out on some great games.CajunShooter

Because you can still play the launch games if you want to when the system actually becomes affordable.

So 3 years down the road you will have to be spending a lot more money buying the current good games as well as the good games from the previous years? I would rather buy them as they come out.

Dude... Older games + Preowns + Cheaper console = less money. Needless to say, most of the launch games will probably go platinum.
#291 Posted by youngc95 (164 posts) -
bump for a great thread
#292 Posted by Blackbond (24500 posts) -
This is the most massive ownage of a console in system wars history.
#293 Posted by Natural_Mystic (4117 posts) -

I don't know how actively the TC will update this thread, but here is some stuff that he might have missed that needs to be integrated here. Comes from the original timeline.

Nov. 20, 2006 - PS3 vs. Xbox360: A Developer's Perspective
Nov. 20, 2006 - Joystiq's Ongoing List of PS3 Annoyances
Nov. 21, 2006 - Gamestop reveals PS3 has very low attach rate
Nov. 25, 2006 - Nov. 25 - Sony retracts 1080i fix statement
Dec. 6, 2006 - Interesting article on future of HD-DVD and Blu Ray
Dec. 7, 2006 - Gamespot's 360 vs. PS3 Comparison... they choose 360 at this point
Dec. 20, 2006 - Article - Fervor for the PS3 is dying down
Dec. 20, 2006 - Time Magazine says PS3 is a bust...
Dec. 20, 2006 - PC World Calls PS3 a top tech mistake of 2006
Jan. 2, 2007: PS3's in stock...but no one wants them Taken from the forum post here.

buuzer0
*updated: although some of these links are duplicates.
#294 Posted by Owned_Noob (2136 posts) -
really good post
#295 Posted by avsfan3721 (19 posts) -
Never thought i'd see the day when the Gamecube could hold a higher fan base than the PS3.  I must still be dreaming...oh wait.  Wii all the way!
#296 Posted by xBALOx (1194 posts) -
lol like this makes a difference with FF, Tales of *, Atelier Iris, MGS, DMC, etc etc etc and all the new sagas that will come... stop the damge control...
#297 Posted by Dead_Menn (637 posts) -
[QUOTE="xBALOx"]lol like this makes a difference with FF, Tales of *, Atelier Iris, MGS, DMC, etc etc etc and all the new sagas that will come... stop the damge control...

the only DAMAGE is your spelling
#298 Posted by IOOl (365 posts) -

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#299 Posted by Heith (1231 posts) -
Natural_Mystic you're the man, keep it up brotha!! =D *huggles*
#300 Posted by Shinoto (8330 posts) -
This is the most massive ownage of a console in system wars history.Blackbond

Within One Year Also....