Sony lost 5 billion on PS3, losing more money than ANY console in history

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[QUOTE="groverslanding"]The newer 360 models no longer fail

Sony's fail will never stop until they're out of business

There's the difference

groverslanding

yes they do, search up rrod on the xbox slims, and sony out of the business?? why?? they own europe and the rest of the world. why would they give that up

xbox cant sell outside america and uk

Nothing to do with there gaming divison , mostly TV's a strong yen and natural disasters. Its always great to hear gamers try to be financial anaylist .

And who cares.

[QUOTE="Pikachu69er"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]LOL i can't wait to see the PS4. Will probably be made out of cardboard with a drawing of a CPU that has "Cell" scribbled on it. Whats more depressing is that cows would lap it up anyway and defend it to the death. groverslanding

yet that cardboard box will have a lower failure rate then you're casualbox next gen

Sony's fail will never stop until they're out of business

There's the difference

So we meet again phonemug follower.At least you can't create threads.:lol:

[QUOTE="groverslanding"]

[QUOTE="Pikachu69er"]

yes they do, search up rrod on the xbox slims, and sony out of the business?? why?? they own europe and the rest of the world. why would they give that up

xbox cant sell outside america and uk

AM-Gamer

Nothing to do with there gaming divison , mostly TV's a strong yen and natural disasters. Its always great to hear gamers try to be financial anaylist .

[QUOTE="groverslanding"]

[QUOTE="Pikachu69er"]

yes they do, search up rrod on the xbox slims, and sony out of the business?? why?? they own europe and the rest of the world. why would they give that up

xbox cant sell outside america and uk

AM-Gamer

Nothing to do with there gaming divison , mostly TV's a strong yen and natural disasters. Its always great to hear gamers try to be financial anaylist .

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="groverslanding"]They own Europe and the rest of the world yet they lost 8 billion dollars in 2011? :lol:

groverslanding

Nothing to do with there gaming divison , mostly TV's a strong yen and natural disasters. Its always great to hear gamers try to be financial anaylist .

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="groverslanding"]They own Europe and the rest of the world yet they lost 8 billion dollars in 2011? :lol:

groverslanding

Nothing to do with there gaming divison , mostly TV's a strong yen and natural disasters. Its always great to hear gamers try to be financial anaylist .

You honeslty think as of 2012 it has lost 5 billion dolalrs? It made that money back in 2010 http://www.destructoid.com/playstation-3-is-finally-profitable-177777.phtml

Its been making money on game sales for years and now every console sold is sold for a profit. It took awhile but overall the PS3 has been profitable for Sony.

They are in financial trouble, came out a year later and still managed to slap the KrapBox in high scoring exclusives.

Xbots mad - confirmed ...

They are in financial trouble, came out a year later and still managed to slap the KrapBox in high scoring exclusives.

Xbots mad - confirmed ...

KiZZo1

[QUOTE="groverslanding"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

Nothing to do with there gaming divison , mostly TV's a strong yen and natural disasters. Its always great to hear gamers try to be financial anaylist .

AM-Gamer

You honeslty think as of 2012 it has lost 5 billion dolalrs? It made that money back in 2010 http://www.destructoid.com/playstation-3-is-finally-profitable-177777.phtml

Its been making money on game sales for years and now every console sold is sold for a profit. It took awhile but overall the PS3 has been profitable for Sony.

Oh and their gaming division started losing again recently because of economic troubles and the Vita. So it might be 6 or 7 billion by the time we see a PS4 if we ever do.

If Sony dies, that leaves only two consoles with totally different target audiences. This next gen is going to be huge for digital services such as Steam, Origin, GFace and OnLive. I just know it.

It made back a few hundred million after losing over 5 billion. Now it's overall loss for the generation sits at around 5 billion even.

Oh and their gaming division started losing again recently because of economic troubles and the Vita. So it might be 6 or 7 billion by the time we see a PS4 if we ever do.groverslanding

If Sony dies, that leaves only two consoles with totally different target audiences. This next gen is going to be huge for digital services such as Steam, Origin, GFace and OnLive. I just know it.

Rikusaki

Or you just had to plug your employers, didn't you?

After PSone and PS2 huge success , PS3 came to take out any Psone and PS2 profits made all these years .... thats ridiculous. Dunno who to blame for this but definitly consoles wont be the same if Sony leave console industry. I really think if PS4 will fail , will be Sonys last console ... im 99% sure about it.

loosingends new account or something, what did i miss?

Just embarrassing.

Sony. It only does everything. :lol:

Sony will go into the casuals now since hardcore cows dont buy games.

sony is a disaster in general. they completely lost it. the last thing they didnt screw up was winning the hd disc war.

No way in hell they lost that much, I highly doubt it. Gaming is not the area they are having trouble in. The "source" is bs just like this thread.

Good to see that he cites nothing.

Worrying statistics.

Cows are getting pretty freaking desperate to deny the credibility of Neogaf adminphonemug

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Cows are getting pretty freaking desperate to deny the credibility of Neogaf adminCajunShooter

Yep. I find it far more prudent to know how he came to this conclusion and what information was cited. I guess i'm just being picky though, we should just take stuff at face value :P

Sony all about the consumer not about the greed like other companies. :cool:

It's no surprise to me that Sony is losing money, they're taking one for the team.

In an age where casual games dominate and children / soccer moms are the dominant consumers in sheer numbers, Sony looks in the other direction.

If I had a genie and could make a wish on how I wanted a major game company to perform, Sony would be the result. I'm an adult gamer that likes traditional "core" games, and that's Sony's focus, and that's where they excel.

It literally almost seems like Sony doesn't care about money, because all they want to do is please me. I'm in the minority, I'm an adult gamer that prefers traditional "core" games. I am far outnumbered by soccer moms and children, and they prefer casual games, and motion controlled casual games are what sell, because the target audience is the largest.

Sony is like a dream come true for me, because for whatever reason, they don't care about making money and just choose to please me as a gamer and continue making the games I want and the types of games that I like to play. I swear, I never had a genie and never made a wish for this to happen, but it is what it is, and Sony is the way that they are, and I love it!

arkephonic

The only reason Sony hasn't whored out to the casuals is because the Move was a complete failure.

Don't pretend like they didn't try.

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="follis12"] So people can search for your mom?follis12

Are you 8 years old? Get a brain

I don't know why gamespot allows this a**holes to be in the site, its really annoying

Sony all about the consumer not about the greed like other companies. :cool:

-Renegade

Don't tell me you actually believe this.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

It's no surprise to me that Sony is losing money, they're taking one for the team.

In an age where casual games dominate and children / soccer moms are the dominant consumers in sheer numbers, Sony looks in the other direction.

If I had a genie and could make a wish on how I wanted a major game company to perform, Sony would be the result. I'm an adult gamer that likes traditional "core" games, and that's Sony's focus, and that's where they excel.

It literally almost seems like Sony doesn't care about money, because all they want to do is please me. I'm in the minority, I'm an adult gamer that prefers traditional "core" games. I am far outnumbered by soccer moms and children, and they prefer casual games, and motion controlled casual games are what sell, because the target audience is the largest.

Sony is like a dream come true for me, because for whatever reason, they don't care about making money and just choose to please me as a gamer and continue making the games I want and the types of games that I like to play. I swear, I never had a genie and never made a wish for this to happen, but it is what it is, and Sony is the way that they are, and I love it!

Vraeth

The only reason Sony hasn't whored out to the casuals is because the Move was a complete failure.

Don't pretend like they didn't try.

The Move was a failure because it didn't do anything new...it was basically an exact retread of the Wii without interesting franchises and slightly better technology.

Nobody wants to buy the same gimmick twice.

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[QUOTE="follis12"] yo mama is going to teach me good grammerfollis12

My "mama" is dead.:|

Try to stay on topic from now on, please. This is supposed to be a thread about the PS3 and the massive losses that Sony incurred because of it.

:lol: THIS GUY IS HILARIOUS.

Sony all about the consumer not about the greed like other companies. :cool:

-Renegade

I'll believe it when you have a credible source.

You know who didn't lose? Me. I bought a PS3 shortly after launch and have never been disappointed. If I think the next Xbox will be better, I will get it. Why anyone would care about a huge corporation's profits is besides me but please...continue.

Sony all about the consumer not about the greed like other companies. :cool:

-Renegade

If Sony dies, that leaves only two consoles with totally different target audiences. This next gen is going to be huge for digital services such as Steam, Origin, GFace and OnLive. I just know it.

Rikusaki

Don't get your hopes up Rikusaki OnLive is going to die very soon, I mean who want to play games that look like a moving oil painting with input lag?

Isn't there any source for us that want to read?Robbazking

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=469872&page=9

[QUOTE="groverslanding"]It made back a few hundred million after losing over 5 billion. Now it's overall loss for the generation sits at around 5 billion even.

Oh and their gaming division started losing again recently because of economic troubles and the Vita. So it might be 6 or 7 billion by the time we see a PS4 if we ever do.nervmeister

I'll believe it when you have a credible source.

Vari3ty

This is true but is like 4 years old, TC is just grasping at straws. The neogafer says that the PS3 has lost more money than any other console and it's true. The PS3 has costed Sony 4.7 billion in loses (remember that Sony sold PS3 at a loss because of the blu-ray to win the format war) but MS was in a similar situation with the first Xbox with 4.2 billion loses and unlike Sony with the PS3 they never made a profit out of it. The first Xbox only sold like 20 millions and to be honest, it is a miracle the Xbox 360 even exist but you gotta give it to MS. Their pockets are really deep, and not to mention the RRoD fiasco and the many millions of dollars they had to put up to extend the warranties to not get sued.

MS is lucky that Apple still hasn't break through their Windows monopoly while Sony is having a hard time selling TVs, laptops and stuff because of Apple and Samsung (and the recession) and that's why they are now going to shift focus only to gaming, cameras and smartphones, because there's less competition there. Some analysts even say that Sony will become a software company. :lol:

Links below:

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/30/ps3-has-lost-sony-4-7-billion-may-be-profitable-next-year/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/bibb-says-sony-making-tectonic-shift-to-software/2012/03/27/gIQAEo5AfS_video.html

sony?

profit?

just wait!

:P

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

I'll believe it when you have a credible source.

Gue1

This is true but is like 4 years old, TC is just grasping at straws. The neogafer says that the PS3 has lost more money than any other console and it's true. The PS3 has costed Sony 4.7 billion in loses (remember that Sony sold PS3 at a loss because of the blu-ray to win the format war) but MS was in a similar situation with the first Xbox with 4.2 billion loses and unlike Sony with the PS3 they never made a profit out of it. The first Xbox only sold like 20 millions and to be honest, it is a miracle the Xbox 360 even exist but you gotta give it to MS. Their pockets are really deep, and not to mention the RRoD fiasco and the many millions of dollars they had to put up to extend the warranties to not get sued.

MS is lucky that Apple still hasn't break through their Windows monopoly while Sony is having a hard time selling TVs, laptops and stuff because of Apple and Samsung (and the recession) and that's why they are now going to shift focus only to gaming, cameras and smartphones, because there's less competition there. Some analysts even say that Sony will become a software company. :lol:

Links below:

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/30/ps3-has-lost-sony-4-7-billion-may-be-profitable-next-year/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/bibb-says-sony-making-tectonic-shift-to-software/2012/03/27/gIQAEo5AfS_video.html

In total it looks like they'll be out 7 to 8 billion in their gaming division since 2007 with the way the Vita is performing.

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

I'll believe it when you have a credible source.

groverslanding

This is true but is like 4 years old, TC is just grasping at straws. The neogafer says that the PS3 has lost more money than any other console and it's true. The PS3 has costed Sony 4.7 billion in loses (remember that Sony sold PS3 at a loss because of the blu-ray to win the format war) but MS was in a similar situation with the first Xbox with 4.2 billion loses and unlike Sony with the PS3 they never made a profit out of it. The first Xbox only sold like 20 millions and to be honest, it is a miracle the Xbox 360 even exist but you gotta give it to MS. Their pockets are really deep, and not to mention the RRoD fiasco and the many millions of dollars they had to put up to extend the warranties to not get sued.

MS is lucky that Apple still hasn't break through their Windows monopoly while Sony is having a hard time selling TVs, laptops and stuff because of Apple and Samsung (and the recession) and that's why they are now going to shift focus only to gaming, cameras and smartphones, because there's less competition there. Some analysts even say that Sony will become a software company. :lol:

Links below:

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/30/ps3-has-lost-sony-4-7-billion-may-be-profitable-next-year/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/bibb-says-sony-making-tectonic-shift-to-software/2012/03/27/gIQAEo5AfS_video.html

In total it looks like they'll be out 7 to 8 billion in their gaming division since 2007 with the way the Vita is performing.

In the recent company-wide corporate strategy meeting, the CEO stated that the gaming division brings them "substantial profit."

"In game business we will target steady profits in the core game business and we also worked to spend in and expend the network services business, the two majors that we've sided already will be implemented steadily. The PlayStation business is a platform model based upon strong and competitive hardware. PlayStation 3 is in its sixth year and is now generating steady profit. We expect PlayStation 3, the newly introduced PlayStation Vita which we reported to the market last year and PSP which still continue to enjoy momentum in developing countries; they together we believe deliver substantial profit."

I don't see how that equates to "their gaming division is losing money again."

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

Sony all about the consumer not about the greed like other companies. :cool:

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="groverslanding"]

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

This is true but is like 4 years old, TC is just grasping at straws. The neogafer says that the PS3 has lost more money than any other console and it's true. The PS3 has costed Sony 4.7 billion in loses (remember that Sony sold PS3 at a loss because of the blu-ray to win the format war) but MS was in a similar situation with the first Xbox with 4.2 billion loses and unlike Sony with the PS3 they never made a profit out of it. The first Xbox only sold like 20 millions and to be honest, it is a miracle the Xbox 360 even exist but you gotta give it to MS. Their pockets are really deep, and not to mention the RRoD fiasco and the many millions of dollars they had to put up to extend the warranties to not get sued.

MS is lucky that Apple still hasn't break through their Windows monopoly while Sony is having a hard time selling TVs, laptops and stuff because of Apple and Samsung (and the recession) and that's why they are now going to shift focus only to gaming, cameras and smartphones, because there's less competition there. Some analysts even say that Sony will become a software company. :lol:

Links below:

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/30/ps3-has-lost-sony-4-7-billion-may-be-profitable-next-year/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/bibb-says-sony-making-tectonic-shift-to-software/2012/03/27/gIQAEo5AfS_video.html

peterw007

In total it looks like they'll be out 7 to 8 billion in their gaming division since 2007 with the way the Vita is performing.

In the recent comapny-wide meeting, the CEO stated that the gaming division will bring them "incredible profit."

"In game business we will target steady profits in the core game business and we also worked to spend in and expend the network services business, the two majors that we've sided already will be implemented steadily. The PlayStation business is a platform model based upon strong and competitive hardware. PlayStation 3 is in its sixth year and is now generating steady profit. We expect PlayStation 3, the newly introduced PlayStation Vita which we reported to the market last year and PSP which still continue to enjoy momentum in developing countries; they together we believe deliver substantial profit."

I don't see how that equates to "their gaming division is losing money again."

PSP is on the way out, Vita is a complete failure, and PS3 has about 6 months until next gen starts and they dont have the money to compete in the next console race.

These are Sonys last moments. Enjoy.