So tired of games without local multiplayer!

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#1 Posted by BlackoutGunshot (358 posts) -
I just bought Syndicate, because every review said the co-op was pretty great. My friend and I are long-time fans of the original, and we thought it would be a great game to play together. Oh, but wait - there's no local multiplayer. Just online co-op with a valid Origin account. Okay, so regardless of the "research a game before you buy it" fail on my part, WHAT THE HELL, Starbreeze? Are you kidding me? I spent dozen of hours playing the original Syndicate with my brother on the same screen - it was the easiest thing they could have done to at least make the game feel like a distant relative of the original. I hate this trend of cutting local multiplayer this generation. I hate it more than DRM, DLC, Kinect, or anything else "ruining gaming". The thing is, I don't like to play online. I don't have any friends with a PS3, and I just don't like playing with strangers. And I'll never complain about online multiplayer, because I understand that it's very important this generation. But I HATE being denied split screen mode in a game where it should be there. I love playing video games with my friends in my apartment. And it sucks so bad that it's becoming much less possible this generation. Suck it, EA and Starbreeze. And while we're at it, you can shove SSX up your ass.
#2 Posted by SolidTy (46317 posts) -

While it's true, local isn't what it was...some games still got it going on, you just have to look.

Rayman Origins, LBP, New Super Mario, Fighting games come to mind, some shooters like GeoW, Resistance, Halo, and KZ2/3...but yeah, it's not like the old days, that's true.

#3 Posted by Zaibach (13466 posts) -

Yeah it sucks for those of us with friends in the world instead only internet ones

#4 Posted by SW__Troll (1687 posts) -

Yeah it sucks for those of us with friends in the world instead only internet ones

Zaibach

Is playing online with your friends forbidden?

#5 Posted by Kickinurass (3357 posts) -

Yup, sucks. My best gaming memories tend to be playing co-op with my brother or friends. Online gaming, while fun, fails to capture the intensity of being in the same room with buddies.

But like SolidTy said, most developers are moving away from local co-op. Which is especially wierd - it's was one of the previously defining characteristics of console gaming. I haven't coded a local co-operative game, but from my experience in making some basic online games for a class, it can't be that much more difficult then working on proper netcode.

What's really worrying the example of SSX. The developer says they could release co-op later as DLC. I half-expect that to become a trend - games start removing co-op (And maybe other nifty features) only to charge for them down the line.

#6 Posted by MrJack3690 (2227 posts) -

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Yeah it sucks for those of us with friends in the world instead only internet ones

SW__Troll

Is playing online with your friends forbidden?

No but it's kindof dumb to have to connect online if you want your friends over at your place just to play against each other or do co-op. All games should have some sort of LAN option.

I'm glad Uncharted 3 and Twisted Metal actually put LAN in this time around. And a lot of PC games still do support it.

#7 Posted by Spartan070 (16388 posts) -
Agreed. Looking at my shelf, all my vintage systems have multiple controller ports, except the 3DO with it's "centipede-like" controller system.
#8 Posted by Spartan070 (16388 posts) -
When my god-daughter flies in from Cali this summer, we have to set up 2 TVs, 2 360s and 2 copies of ME3 to play co-op :(
#9 Posted by Zaibach (13466 posts) -

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Yeah it sucks for those of us with friends in the world instead only internet ones

SW__Troll

Is playing online with your friends forbidden?

Not at the sacrifice of actual friends who have made the effort to come to your house. Only sports games think this is a good feature now.
#10 Posted by freedomfreak (44563 posts) -

True.

Online multiplayer is boring unless you're playing with buddies.
Local multiplayer is best multiplayer.

#11 Posted by VanDammFan (4433 posts) -

Developers are lazy and cater mostly to the online crowd now days..

#12 Posted by SPYDER0416 (16736 posts) -

Local multiplayer is great and its the reason I enjoy games like Resident Evil 5, Halo and Call of Duty for letting me game with buddies on the same screen. Unfortunately, it doesn't make the most business sense.

A game without local multiplayer is a game with less work put into making local multiplayer, and one where every friend who wants to play with you needs their own $60 copy of the game, which essentially means for 4 player fun EA would make $240 for 4 players wanting to play together instead of just $60 for one game everyone plays on.

#13 Posted by BlackoutGunshot (358 posts) -
So do you think EA is behind this for money reasons? We're seeing the same thing in SSX, Syndicate, and Mass Effect 3, which are all published by EA. If so, that makes me want them to choke on their own greed.
#14 Posted by nintendoboy16 (28390 posts) -
Agreed, it sucks even more if online servers were shut down as well, leaving NO multiplayer at all.
#15 Posted by BrunoBRS (73375 posts) -
i have to say i'm also annoyed by the lack of local multiplayer recently. it seems like something you can only take for granted on fighting games nowadays. i'm honestly surprised SSX has no multiplayer... it doesn't even make sense.
#16 Posted by sneslover (952 posts) -

Totally agree, specially with all these huge TVs that are widescreen, it's almost and old school 21" TV for every player in a 4 player game!

I just wish some games let you choose to split vertically, because horizontally on a widescreen TV just feels weird (GeoW).

#17 Posted by Lucianu (9649 posts) -

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Yeah it sucks for those of us with friends in the world instead only internet ones

SW__Troll

Is playing online with your friends forbidden?

It's sh*t compared to local.

Calling up 10-15 friends once a weekend to play countless games at yo home, smoking, drinking, having a good time, is my idea of a gaming bliss. It's what i do at least once a weekend. It's sad that most do not have the knowledge to experience that gaming heaven.

Playing online is a sh*itty experience compared to that.

#18 Posted by freedomfreak (44563 posts) -

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Yeah it sucks for those of us with friends in the world instead only internet ones

Lucianu

Is playing online with your friends forbidden?

It's sh*t compared to local.

Calling up 10-15 friends once a weekend to play countless games at yo home, smoking, drinking, having a good time, is my idea of a gaming bliss. It's what i do at least once a weekend. It's sad that most do not have the knowledge to experience that gaming heaven.

Playing online is a sh*itty experience compared to that.

Yeah,I agree with this.
#19 Posted by BrunoBRS (73375 posts) -

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Yeah it sucks for those of us with friends in the world instead only internet ones

Lucianu

Is playing online with your friends forbidden?

It's sh*t compared to local.

Calling up 10-15 friends once a weekend to play countless games at yo home, smoking, drinking, having a good time, is my idea of a gaming bliss. It's what i do at least once a weekend. It's sad that most do not have the knowledge to experience that gaming heaven.

Playing online is a sh*itty experience compared to that.

this. plus it requires more copies of the game.
#20 Posted by CKYguy25 (2087 posts) -

i remember back like in the N64 days, split-screen/local multiplayer was the biggest thing (i love hanging friends over and playing 4 player multiplayer games), i miss that

#21 Posted by Mr_Cumberdale (10189 posts) -

Local multiplayer is great and its the reason I enjoy games like Resident Evil 5, Halo and Call of Duty for letting me game with buddies on the same screen. Unfortunately, it doesn't make the most business sense.

A game without local multiplayer is a game with less work put into making local multiplayer, and one where every friend who wants to play with you needs their own $60 copy of the game, which essentially means for 4 player fun EA would make $240 for 4 players wanting to play together instead of just $60 for one game everyone plays on.

SPYDER0416
Wow, your just like me. I played each of those games/series a lot because ofe the coop.
#22 Posted by savebattery (3626 posts) -
I know what you mean. My Dreamcast, Nintendo 64, and Gamecube get more play time than my PS3 or Xbox 360 for that exact reason. Four controller ports for the win. The Wii is a bit better for local multiplayer than the HD twins, at least. NSMB, Kirby's Epic Yarn/Return to Dreamland, Smash Bros, DKCR, Mario Party, Wii Sports/Play/Party/Resort, etc, etc, etc
#23 Posted by Heirren (19383 posts) -

Four controller ports for the win. savebattery

Really, we could be playing 6 player Double Dragon style games. Why are we not?

#24 Posted by BlackoutGunshot (358 posts) -

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Yeah it sucks for those of us with friends in the world instead only internet ones

Lucianu

Is playing online with your friends forbidden?

It's sh*t compared to local.

Calling up 10-15 friends once a weekend to play countless games at yo home, smoking, drinking, having a good time, is my idea of a gaming bliss. It's what i do at least once a weekend. It's sad that most do not have the knowledge to experience that gaming heaven.

Playing online is a sh*itty experience compared to that.

This. I couldn't have said it better.
#25 Posted by layton2012 (3489 posts) -
Me too, what happened to the time when you played multiplayer with people sitting next to you, say what you want about Nintendo, but at least they still support local multiplayer on most of their games, that's why I'm picking p MP9 on the 11th.
#26 Posted by Arthas045 (5581 posts) -
This bothers me as well.......
#27 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

Ya it is annoying, but there still are some games that do it. I recommend checking out Twisted Metal, it has both split screen and online split screen, so you and your buddies can play online together on the same TV! It's a really fun fast paced game and has great MP, definately recommend it. Only downside is that it has a stupid online pass crap! So get it new.

If you don't have a PS3 then Halo 4 will probably have split screen. Also the COD games have them as well. For me personally I'm hoping that RE Operation Racoon City has it.

#28 Posted by Joedgabe (5134 posts) -

Well some games have it.... but the games you wish that had it the most don't. :|

I really wish Saints Row had Local Multiplayer :? It would have been a blast!

This is why games like Rockband are games that last a life time and don't get old so it's worth the expensive full set price.

#29 Posted by DarthBilf (1357 posts) -
Yeah, it sucks, but there are still enough local multiplayer games that there is no shortage of games to choose from when friends come over. And as long as a Smash Bros is released next gen, there will be at least one left (seriously, is it even possible to get tired of the local multiplayer in that game?)
#30 Posted by timmy00 (15360 posts) -

I'm fine with either way. As long as I got a way to talk to the person I'm playing with online. More local co-op would be nice though.

#31 Posted by Heirren (19383 posts) -

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

Is playing online with your friends forbidden?

BlackoutGunshot

It's sh*t compared to local.

Calling up 10-15 friends once a weekend to play countless games at yo home, smoking, drinking, having a good time, is my idea of a gaming bliss. It's what i do at least once a weekend. It's sad that most do not have the knowledge to experience that gaming heaven.

Playing online is a sh*itty experience compared to that.

This. I couldn't have said it better.

And THIS is why I think the original xbox is better than ps2. The idea of getting X tvs in a room, along with X number of consoles, JUST to play Halo:CE was unheard of for consoles. ...then there's halo2 which raised it to a whole new level.

#32 Posted by SolidTy (46317 posts) -

[QUOTE="BlackoutGunshot"][QUOTE="Lucianu"]

It's sh*t compared to local.

Calling up 10-15 friends once a weekend to play countless games at yo home, smoking, drinking, having a good time, is my idea of a gaming bliss. It's what i do at least once a weekend. It's sad that most do not have the knowledge to experience that gaming heaven.

Playing online is a sh*itty experience compared to that.

Heirren

This. I couldn't have said it better.

And THIS is why I think the original xbox is better than ps2. The idea of getting X tvs in a room, along with X number of consoles, JUST to play Halo:CE was unheard of for consoles. ...then there's halo2 which raised it to a whole new level.

Well, that's incorrect, but I can understand your perspective.

Actually it was popularized well before Halo existed...but I do remember that Halo experiences with my buds too (after all, I own two Xbox's and have talked about LAN many times in SW). I took part in many experiences where we got X Tv's in a room along with X number of consoles....but I guess it depends on your age and perspective, as younger gamers wouldn't remember something they weren't old enough to remember or afford.

It was heard of for consoles back in the Saturn/N64/Playstation generation well before the PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube even came out or existed. It was called the Playstation Link Cable. While it's true, I did LAN parties for Xbox, I also did them for PS2, Gamecube, and even older Playstation.


Two different Playstation Command and Conquer games were popular games for linking up on Playstation (I also played other games like PS's Armored Core games this way with friends, Doom, Duke Nukem, both Bushido Blades, Wipeout, Plenty of racing games and more), which was unheard of for consoles. The Link Cable was a neat idea, and I for one was glad to do it again when the PS2, Xbox, and GC came out. Obviously, I did this again with friends when the PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube came out. C&C were my fondest memories for linking up consoles early on. I'm glad to have seen that carry on with the i.link and LAN on PS2, Xbox and Gamecube LAN as well. GT3, Tony Hawk, Armored Core, and Time Crisis games were popular PS2 ilink games, just fyi.

I'm not arguing that Halo wasn't probably the most popular console link up experience for westerners, only that it was heard of and done by many far before Xbox-PS2-GC came to the game scene.

In fact, I did link up GC's for Mario Kart, which was my only GC link up experience with multiple Gamecubes (I believe only two games were supported and Mario Kart was the better between the two), although I also connect GBA's to the Cube but that was sort of different. :P

#33 Posted by CooperThief (648 posts) -

Agreed. There still are good games with local multiplayer, but most games focus on having an online mode before worrying about local, if at all.

I remember hooking up my GBA with my friend's playing Mario and others together. Those were the days.

#34 Posted by DragonfireXZ95 (19834 posts) -

Split screen is dead on consoles. Welcome to the future.

#35 Posted by CooperThief (648 posts) -

split screen is dead on consoles. Welcome to the future.DragonfireXZ95

I wouldn't call split-screen 'dead' per say. Just out-classed by online.

#36 Posted by Promised_Trini (3637 posts) -

I was pissed off when I found out SSX had no Local Mp.My brother was like what a stupid move by EA.

#37 Posted by VanDammFan (4433 posts) -

Split screen is dead on consoles. Welcome to the future.

DragonfireXZ95

You mean welcome to the alone world of pc gaming? This is one reason Ive never gotten into to much of pc gaming. Its not centered around family/friends playing together. Its about hooking up online and playing,never getting the joys of socializing and enjoying your time together. Im not trying to start a war here. Thats just my opinion on the matter. I have spent THOUSANDS of hours playing games with friends and family together and will treasure those sleepless nights until I die..

Good thing I still have all my old consoles,games ect..

#38 Posted by SW__Troll (1687 posts) -

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Yeah it sucks for those of us with friends in the world instead only internet ones

Lucianu

Is playing online with your friends forbidden?

It's sh*t compared to local.

Calling up 10-15 friends once a weekend to play countless games at yo home, smoking, drinking, having a good time, is my idea of a gaming bliss. It's what i do at least once a weekend. It's sad that most do not have the knowledge to experience that gaming heaven.

Playing online is a sh*itty experience compared to that.

I disagree, but alright.

#39 Posted by slimjimbadboy (1731 posts) -

Yeah it sucks for those of us with friends in the world instead only internet ones

Zaibach

This is true and the reason why I am disapointed in the lineup of local 4 player games on the PS3.

#40 Posted by Labavo (443 posts) -
It's funny how everyone here loves PC gamers and doesn't even act like this is an issue. Yes, it's terrible. I bought Motorstorm: Apocalypse for Christmas and have not played it at all because of the lack of local multiplayer. Only the second one had it. The first and third didn't, oddly enough.
#41 Posted by Klipsh (608 posts) -
LAN gaming is the best gaming. Hopefully it'll never die out. Just a couple weekends ago got together with two other friends and brought my computer over and played game till 2 am.
#42 Posted by ShadowsDemon (9540 posts) -
Yeah, I'm getting sig of it. It's a pity that gaming has come down to this. :(
#43 Posted by Nega3 (1069 posts) -

It makes no sense why we can play with our friends while we're far from each other but when we're in the same house, (the better way of playing against your friends) we can't play together. It's bullsh*t!

#44 Posted by PatchMaster (6013 posts) -

This seems to be EA's latest way of pissing people off. Just like the implementation of online passes discourages buying used, the exclusion of local multiplayer pressures players to each buy their own copy instead of sharing one. Hopefully other publishers won't be following suit.

#45 Posted by WCK619 (551 posts) -

A lot of games are even removing direct IP and LAN multiplayer too. Which is very saddening.

#46 Posted by sailor232 (5220 posts) -

Yip, a friend and I are always on the look out for some good Lan and even split screen co-op games. Saddly there's not much being made these days.

#47 Posted by fabz_95 (15424 posts) -
I have enough games that provide local multiplayer but it's ridiculous how many games local multiplayer is perfect for yet isn't available.
#48 Posted by chaotzu (773 posts) -
Solution: do better research and buy more split screen games. Racing games, fighting games, sports games, Rock Band, KZ3, Call of Duty, Rainbow 6, Uncharted 3, Twisted Metal, Resistance 3, RE5, Portal 2, Borderlands, etc. Street Fighter vs Tekken has 4 player tag as well as on the screen at the same time action. But let's just ignore that so we can complain some more.
#49 Posted by Nega3 (1069 posts) -

Solution: do better research and buy more split screen games. Racing games, fighting games, sports games, Rock Band, KZ3, Call of Duty, Rainbow 6, Uncharted 3, Twisted Metal, Resistance 3, RE5, Portal 2, Borderlands, etc. Street Fighter vs Tekken has 4 player tag as well as on the screen at the same time action. But let's just ignore that so we can complain some more.chaotzu

Not all racing and sports games have split-screen. :P e.g Burnout Paradise, NFS Hot Pursuit 2010, SSX 2012 etc.

#50 Posted by BrunoBRS (73375 posts) -

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

Is playing online with your friends forbidden?

SW__Troll

It's sh*t compared to local.

Calling up 10-15 friends once a weekend to play countless games at yo home, smoking, drinking, having a good time, is my idea of a gaming bliss. It's what i do at least once a weekend. It's sad that most do not have the knowledge to experience that gaming heaven.

Playing online is a sh*itty experience compared to that.

I disagree, but alright.

i'll have to invite you to some pizza'n'games next time me and my friends do it.