So Sony has won this gen right?

#101 Edited by xhawk27 (7345 posts) -

@I_can_haz said:

@xhawk27 said:

@edwardecl said:

History has shown us that the first company to reach 10 million in console sales wins the generation battle." - Microsoft (I think it was a Don Mattrick quote)

So using their own logic, PS4 is close to winning.

I know the Wii reached it first but the first HD console last gen to reach 10 million was the Xbox 360.

and it still came in last place lol.

No it didn't butthurt cow from last gen. When the current gen started the Xbox 360 was still in the lead. Who cares after the next gen starts if it eventually outsells it. I think that should make you worry since it gives hope to the lems if the POS3 can come back any console can! LOL

#102 Posted by Shewgenja (9640 posts) -

@kingtito said:

Spoken like a true loser cow........an 6-8 year gen over in the 1st 9 months.

Cows are such jokes and you sir are one of the biggest ones here.

Ouch, man. How will I ever recover? Such wit. So hurtful. Wow.

#103 Edited by edwardecl (2239 posts) -
@Shewgenja said:

@kingtito said:

Spoken like a true loser cow........an 6-8 year gen over in the 1st 9 months.

Cows are such jokes and you sir are one of the biggest ones here.

Ouch, man. How will I ever recover? Such wit. So hurtful. Wow.

You mean...

Much smart, Such hurtful. WOW?

#104 Posted by stereointegrity (10731 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

Sounding an awfully lot like Xbox fanboys in late 2006/early 2007. We all saw how that turned out.

except sony was the market leader before then...and sonys price was a factor for well over a year....and the xbox 360 had a year head start....

#105 Posted by PsychoLemons (2119 posts) -

Well, it's certainly a terrible gen then.

#106 Posted by NFJSupreme (5379 posts) -

way too early to call it but it looks good for Sony. But where are the games? Eventually that will matter.

#107 Edited by Blabadon (26672 posts) -

The PS4 sucks bro.

Shame, since the PS3 came last seventh generation.

#108 Posted by bublover1 (129 posts) -

@I_can_haz said:

@xhawk27 said:

So I guess MS won the HD race last gen. Also if the PS3 wasn't sold as a blu-ray player that I bet counted for more than 10 million units the PS3 would have been done for.

So much butthurt and shitty excuses. BTW 360 came in last place lastgen despite launching a year earlier than PS3 and being $200 for a significant amount of time. Let that sink in a bit and you'll realize why Xbone doesn't stand a chance this gen. They botched their launch and came out more expensive with the weaker console this gen, it's no wonder they are getting destroyed. When you realize that XPOSbone is pretty much dead outside the US you'll see why a PS3-style comeback is impossible for Xbone. Nicaragua and China won't save the XPOSBone this time lems.

3 Million PS4s shipped >>>> XPOSBone + 360's 1.1 million

LOL... Excellent ownage. Also, XBL is a fucking wasteland now. Everyone is on PSN. Massive amount of money they lost in lower subscribers. It also reduces the amount of multi-console buyers, since very few want to pay for both GOLD and PS+. Who would have thought that MS's own greedy practice is biting them in the ass? I just love poetic justice.

#109 Posted by bublover1 (129 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@I_can_haz said:

@xhawk27 said:

@edwardecl said:

History has shown us that the first company to reach 10 million in console sales wins the generation battle." - Microsoft (I think it was a Don Mattrick quote)

So using their own logic, PS4 is close to winning.

I know the Wii reached it first but the first HD console last gen to reach 10 million was the Xbox 360.

and it still came in last place lol.

No it didn't butthurt cow from last gen. When the current gen started the Xbox 360 was still in the lead. Who cares after the next gen starts if it eventually outsells it. I think that should make you worry since it gives hope to the lems if the POS3 can come back any console can! LOL

LOL... Still living in the past... AHAHAHAHAHA... You're just like some whore 80-year-old who was pretty when she was 20 but can't accept that she's now an unwanted, wrinkly hag.

#110 Edited by Speak_Low (1097 posts) -

It does seem like PS4 has won the sales race already.

Last gen was crazy and something else - the Wii shot out ahead but slowed down to a halt the last few years (those casuals left faster than anyone expected). The PS3 had its bumpy launch headaches, the Xbox 360 had RROD problems, and expensive HD production, DLC, microtransactions and annualized games were just about to become a normality. Lots of unpredictable stuff going on because there was lots of learning and experimenting (seeing what gamers really liked and wanted), successes and failures even from the same company within the same gen. They actually all did well in sales but took a lot of bruises as well.

I think most would have to agree there is way more settled clarity for this generation, now that most of those growing pains are behind them. The successful PS4 launch looks nothing like the PS3 launch, and I hope the X1 isn't going to have to repeat another RROD episode with millions of returned consoles. Things seem comparatively smoother and easier to predict (at least for now). And the big studios like EA, Ubisoft, 2K Games and others seem to have their annualized, DLC, pre-order groove down now. Even they have their own comfortable patterns....for better or worse.

PS4 will probably keep its substantial lead, and X1 already has second place locked. The Wii U is the only one that will look like a joke at the end of this when it can't even sell past 15 million worldwide. I don't even think it will pass 11-12 million, and that would make it sell about half of what the GCN sold.

Generation 8 will be slimmer and more streamlined with dead Nintendo weight being cast overboard. You could've been part of the party but you don't know what you're doing. Over the rails with you! Splash!

#111 Edited by PS4hasNOgames (1771 posts) -

Maybe in terms of sales but there isn't a single PS4 exclusive worthy of buying the console for, yet. LOL imagine when PS4 starts getting those big name games, they will run away with it this gen. Might be a mirror of the PS2/gamecube/xbox gen.

#112 Posted by hehe101 (783 posts) -

its because sony as always are childish and highlighted microsofts mistakes by making videos etc, atleast Microsoft are recovering.

#113 Edited by TheEroica (13726 posts) -

My god, the title screams "insecure consumer"

#114 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (8228 posts) -

Butthurt Cows, butthurt cows everywhere.

#115 Edited by Blabadon (26672 posts) -

@TheEroica said:

My god, the title screams "insecure consumer"

Right? RIGHT?

Surprised TC even responded.

#116 Edited by xhawk27 (7345 posts) -

@bublover1 said:
@xhawk27 said:

No it didn't butthurt cow from last gen. When the current gen started the Xbox 360 was still in the lead. Who cares after the next gen starts if it eventually outsells it. I think that should make you worry since it gives hope to the lems if the POS3 can come back any console can! LOL

LOL... Still living in the past... AHAHAHAHAHA... You're just like some whore 80-year-old who was pretty when she was 20 but can't accept that she's now an unwanted, wrinkly hag.

You think R&D for the PS4 only cost Sony 5 million and MS spent over 5 billion on the Xbox One? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

#117 Posted by tormentos (18384 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

No it didn't butthurt cow from last gen. When the current gen started the Xbox 360 was still in the lead. Who cares after the next gen starts if it eventually outsells it. I think that should make you worry since it gives hope to the lems if the POS3 can come back any console can! LOL

The PS3 had Japan and mainland EU what the fu** does MS have.? Mars the moon.? lol

Keep holding to the PS3 story lets see how it goes,but i warn you as soon as the PS3 landed it begin to eat from MS lead,because in japan and mainland EU the PS3 sold better even at $600,the PS4 and xbox one are already out and came the same month and the PS4 almost double it in sales,the PS4 didn't land 1 year before the xbox one they both launch in the same month and the gap keeps growing..

@NFJSupreme said:

way too early to call it but it looks good for Sony. But where are the games? Eventually that will matter.

For both since the xbox one has nothing as well,and when it comes to games we all know who abandon the user base first.

#118 Posted by xhawk27 (7345 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@xhawk27 said:

No it didn't butthurt cow from last gen. When the current gen started the Xbox 360 was still in the lead. Who cares after the next gen starts if it eventually outsells it. I think that should make you worry since it gives hope to the lems if the POS3 can come back any console can! LOL

The PS3 had Japan and mainland EU what the fu** does MS have.? Mars the moon.? lol

Keep holding to the PS3 story lets see how it goes,but i warn you as soon as the PS3 landed it begin to eat from MS lead,because in japan and mainland EU the PS3 sold better even at $600,the PS4 and xbox one are already out and came the same month and the PS4 almost double it in sales,the PS4 didn't land 1 year before the xbox one they both launch in the same month and the gap keeps growing..

@NFJSupreme said:

way too early to call it but it looks good for Sony. But where are the games? Eventually that will matter.

For both since the xbox one has nothing as well,and when it comes to games we all know who abandon the user base first.

The Xbox 360 had USA, UK, Austrailia, some parts of Europe, Russia.

Keep thinking that the PS3 was ahead of Xbox 360 before the start of the current gen. Oh and you forgot to mention that the PS3 was the cheapest Blu-Ray player for about two years.

#119 Posted by mgools (905 posts) -

Way too early to tell. Both companies make great systems. Also Wii U as well. Gamers win as there are 3 very good systems. I hope we continue to see all three companies as well as PC gaming. The more the better. Never understood the who system war thing. Why should I care what someone else likes?

#120 Edited by tonitorsi (8481 posts) -

They pretty much got 1st place locked.

In order for the Wii U or Bone to catch up or even surpass the PS4 they'd have to sell +300K monthly and they can barely crack a 100K sold on NPD.

People might want to hold on to this superstitious belief that a PS3-like recovery can be attained, but numbers tell an extensive different story.

Its a done deal.

#121 Edited by bublover1 (129 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@bublover1 said:
@xhawk27 said:

No it didn't butthurt cow from last gen. When the current gen started the Xbox 360 was still in the lead. Who cares after the next gen starts if it eventually outsells it. I think that should make you worry since it gives hope to the lems if the POS3 can come back any console can! LOL

LOL... Still living in the past... AHAHAHAHAHA... You're just like some whore 80-year-old who was pretty when she was 20 but can't accept that she's now an unwanted, wrinkly hag.

You think R&D for the PS4 only cost Sony 5 million and MS spent over 5 billion on the Xbox One? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

SONY let AMD do the R&D for the technology. SONY only "designed" the internals. SONY got a group of AMD tech they were considering for the PS4. Their R&D budget was essentially just trying out different AMD parts and seeing whichone had the best balance of power and low BoM. Think of PC gamers. They get to pick and decide which parts they want to add to their PC. They don't actually create their own CPU and GPU.

Microsoft had to create a large part of the tech that goes into the Xbone because the eSRAM and move engines bullshit is unconventional. No one else is doing any R&D on it, so they had to pay for it out of their own pockets. That's why the R&D budget was so high. In the end, SONY still came up with a much more powerful machine that's also much more efficient both in terms of power usage and memory utilization.

#122 Posted by Evo_nine (1741 posts) -

If by win you mean more sales? yes looks like it.

But have they really won? I mean....ps4 cant output games at 1080p 60fps so we are all losers.

#123 Posted by foxhound_fox (88797 posts) -

Yeah, like Microsoft won last gen.

#124 Posted by TheRealBigRich (734 posts) -

Did ps4 win this gen hmmm idk maybe ask tomorrow I'm sure we will know for sure then

#125 Posted by m3dude1 (1369 posts) -

sony wins, microsoft 2nd but still does well. nintendo is on its way to bankruptcy. that company has become completely clueless as to what consumers actually want.

#126 Posted by GTSaiyanjin2 (6013 posts) -

Sony is winning without even having any of their big 1st party titles. I can only see things getting worse for MS, especially if sales dont pick up in NA.

#127 Posted by Mr_Huggles_dog (1220 posts) -

@Blabadon: PS3 sales elude this one.

#128 Posted by Nengo_Flow (9872 posts) -

I can easily see M$ catching up to SONY and it will probably end like last gen, in a tie or slightly edging out by a bit.

I see both selling about 80 million within 7 years

#129 Posted by Blabadon (26672 posts) -

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Blabadon: PS3 sales elude this one.

Reported.

#130 Posted by BldgIrsh (2701 posts) -

@m3dude1 said:

sony wins, microsoft 2nd but still does well. nintendo is on its way to bankruptcy. that company has become completely clueless as to what consumers actually want.

Pretty sure it was the other way around at E3. Unless you like having F2P games on the PS4.

#131 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (13783 posts) -

Bait ?

#132 Edited by hrt_rulz01 (6251 posts) -
@Wasdie said:

Sounding an awfully lot like Xbox fanboys in late 2006/early 2007. We all saw how that turned out.

Very true.

#133 Edited by Mr_Huggles_dog (1220 posts) -

@Blabadon: Am I missing something????

Every other reply is someone saying they're reporting. I mean this joker says the PS3 lost last gen and sales towards the end of the cycle said otherwise.

PS3 sales constantly were going.

What the hell would I be reported for?

Or are there a bunch of 12 year olds on this board?

#134 Posted by lostrib (37804 posts) -

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Blabadon: Am I missing something????

Every other reply is someone saying they're reporting. I mean this joker says the PS3 lost last gen and sales towards the end of the cycle said otherwise.

PS3 sales constantly were going.

What the hell would I be reported for?

Or are there a bunch of 12 year olds on this board?

reported for insulting 12 year olds.

They're just children! How disgusting!

#135 Edited by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@I_can_haz said:

@xhawk27 said:

@edwardecl said:

History has shown us that the first company to reach 10 million in console sales wins the generation battle." - Microsoft (I think it was a Don Mattrick quote)

So using their own logic, PS4 is close to winning.

I know the Wii reached it first but the first HD console last gen to reach 10 million was the Xbox 360.

and it still came in last place lol.

No it didn't butthurt cow from last gen. When the current gen started the Xbox 360 was still in the lead. Who cares after the next gen starts if it eventually outsells it. I think that should make you worry since it gives hope to the lems if the POS3 can come back any console can! LOL

WRONG! 360 came in last lol.

"B....bu....bu...bu...but teh second place!!!11"

Face it lem, the Xflop franchise is a failure. Couldn't even beat Sony despite coming out a year earlier at $200 cheaper. No wonder they are getting decimated now.

#136 Edited by lostrib (37804 posts) -

@I_can_haz said:

@xhawk27 said:

@I_can_haz said:

and it still came in last place lol.

No it didn't butthurt cow from last gen. When the current gen started the Xbox 360 was still in the lead. Who cares after the next gen starts if it eventually outsells it. I think that should make you worry since it gives hope to the lems if the POS3 can come back any console can! LOL

WRONG 360 came in last lol.

"B....bu....bu...bu...but teh second place!!!11"

Face it lem, M$ and the Xflop franchise are failures.

are you talking about the IDC estimation?

If I remember correctly, MS announced 80 million sales before Sony

#137 Posted by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@I_can_haz said:

@xhawk27 said:

@I_can_haz said:

@xhawk27 said:

@edwardecl said:

History has shown us that the first company to reach 10 million in console sales wins the generation battle." - Microsoft (I think it was a Don Mattrick quote)

So using their own logic, PS4 is close to winning.

I know the Wii reached it first but the first HD console last gen to reach 10 million was the Xbox 360.

and it still came in last place lol.

No it didn't butthurt cow from last gen. When the current gen started the Xbox 360 was still in the lead. Who cares after the next gen starts if it eventually outsells it. I think that should make you worry since it gives hope to the lems if the POS3 can come back any console can! LOL

WRONG 360 came in last lol.

"B....bu....bu...bu...but teh second place!!!11"

Face it lem, M$ and the Xflop franchise are failures.

are you talking about the IDC estimation?

If I remember correctly, MS announced 80 million sales before Sony

Nah, this is later than that. I'm talking about GAF numbers. The PS3 is ahead not by much but it's ahead still.

#138 Posted by lostrib (37804 posts) -

@I_can_haz said:

@lostrib said:

@I_can_haz said:

@xhawk27 said:

No it didn't butthurt cow from last gen. When the current gen started the Xbox 360 was still in the lead. Who cares after the next gen starts if it eventually outsells it. I think that should make you worry since it gives hope to the lems if the POS3 can come back any console can! LOL

WRONG 360 came in last lol.

"B....bu....bu...bu...but teh second place!!!11"

Face it lem, M$ and the Xflop franchise are failures.

are you talking about the IDC estimation?

If I remember correctly, MS announced 80 million sales before Sony

Nah, this is later than that. I'm talking about GAF numbers. The PS3 is ahead not by much but it's ahead still.

Where are those in the article you posted?

#139 Posted by AdrianWerner (28058 posts) -

Not yet. Way to early to tell. But they're the dark horse in this race right now.

#140 Posted by lostrib (37804 posts) -

@AdrianWerner said:

Not yet. Way to early to tell. But they're the dark horse in this race right now.

I don't think sony really qualifies as a dark horse

#141 Edited by super600 (30722 posts) -

@m3dude1 said:

sony wins, microsoft 2nd but still does well. nintendo is on its way to bankruptcy. that company has become completely clueless as to what consumers actually want.

Nintendo actually knows what their consumers wanted and whatever console they create next won't be like the WiiU or any of the current gen consoles. With the WiiU and the 3ds they really did not know what their consumers wanted

#142 Posted by super600 (30722 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@bublover1 said:
@xhawk27 said:

No it didn't butthurt cow from last gen. When the current gen started the Xbox 360 was still in the lead. Who cares after the next gen starts if it eventually outsells it. I think that should make you worry since it gives hope to the lems if the POS3 can come back any console can! LOL

LOL... Still living in the past... AHAHAHAHAHA... You're just like some whore 80-year-old who was pretty when she was 20 but can't accept that she's now an unwanted, wrinkly hag.

You think R&D for the PS4 only cost Sony 5 million and MS spent over 5 billion on the Xbox One? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

R and D may have been similar for both, but I highly doubt sony's R and D was 5 million.Don't believe everything any user says on SW.

#143 Posted by watchdogsrules (454 posts) -

@Douevenlift_bro: your right it is undeniable and i agree with you, PS4 won this gen, no sweat.

#144 Edited by watchdogsrules (454 posts) -

@SolidGame_basic: lol

#145 Posted by EducatingU_PCMR (739 posts) -

@super600 said:

@m3dude1 said:

sony wins, microsoft 2nd but still does well. nintendo is on its way to bankruptcy. that company has become completely clueless as to what consumers actually want.

Nintendo actually knows what their consumers wanted and whatever console they create next won't be like the WiiU or any of the current gen consoles. With the WiiU and the 3ds they really did not know what their consumers wanted

You think Loltendo is going to put out a decent, fairly priced machine? LOL

It's clear what people want from new consoles: power. At least if we inspect only the HW related stuff, games are in other category.

People want shinny graphics and 60fps, the amount of deluded cows praising the "almighty" IndieStation and people disappointed with the Weakbox made sure to underline that.

Nintendo is comprised of a bunch of greedy bastards, they'll pull out another weak ass machine for their kids (sheep) whom will gladly overpay for it and Mario Iteration #999

#146 Edited by m3dude1 (1369 posts) -

@super600 said:

@m3dude1 said:

sony wins, microsoft 2nd but still does well. nintendo is on its way to bankruptcy. that company has become completely clueless as to what consumers actually want.

Nintendo actually knows what their consumers wanted and whatever console they create next won't be like the WiiU or any of the current gen consoles. With the WiiU and the 3ds they really did not know what their consumers wanted

yeah i dont see it going down like that at all. every single conference or speech nintendo does just shows how completely detached from reality every single executive is.

#147 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5075 posts) -

As the great don mattrix once said, "history shows us the console to first reach 10m wins the gen". Ps4 is near enough 10m

#148 Edited by AdrianWerner (28058 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@AdrianWerner said:

Not yet. Way to early to tell. But they're the dark horse in this race right now.

I don't think sony really qualifies as a dark horse

How not? They were beaten by both Nintendo and Microsft last gen. They were least likely to win this one.

#149 Edited by PapaTrop (1362 posts) -

Probably, but only because Europe has a fixation with Sony no matter what, and Xbox will never sell well in Japan. Those are the two crutches that helped the PS3 at least achieve "success" if you can call it that, and the PS4 launching before the Xbox One at a lower price may as well have crippled any chance Microsoft would have had in Europe (lol Japan).

If Microsoft stays committed to gaming like they have been then maybe they can bounce back in America at least. It's really the only territory where any product has the chance to succeed as long as it's good.

#150 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (7430 posts) -

Won what?

The numer of lies?

The number of games delayed?

The number of filler indies?

The number of shit remakes?

The void of 2014 games?

Do you even have a brain bro?