So Sony has won this gen right?

#1 Posted by Douevenlift_bro (5223 posts) -

I mean...its pretty much undeniable.

I'm actually rooting for Wii-U in 2nd Place. Xbone is an awkward pre-teen console not sure what it wants to be

PS: Did those "superior" devkits that allow for higher than 720/30FPS on the bone come in yet?

Inquiring minds are hungry.

#2 Posted by parkurtommo (27263 posts) -

No, gamers won this gen. We get DRM, DLC, pre order incentives, graphical downgrades, DRM, DLC, DLC, DRM, what's not to like?

#3 Posted by freedomfreak (41040 posts) -

Achja..

#4 Edited by Wasdie (50003 posts) -

Sounding an awfully lot like Xbox fanboys in late 2006/early 2007. We all saw how that turned out.

#5 Posted by SolidGame_basic (17983 posts) -

@parkurtommo said:

No, gamers won this gen. We get DRM, DLC, pre order incentives, graphical downgrades, DRM, DLC, DLC, DRM, what's not to like?

Yea, cause I'm sure Microsoft and Nintendo are thinking "hey, we're getting our asses kicked, but at least the consumer won!"

#6 Edited by Heil68 (45267 posts) -

Gen is far from being over, but they are off to a marvelous start, following the by gamers FOR gamers mantra and coupling it with Live, Learn and Love.

#7 Posted by Mr_Huggles_dog (1220 posts) -

As a PS4 lover and someone who likes Sony products......I have to disagree.

This gen just started. It's a marathon not a sprint.

That said....I'm glad my console of choice is the lead platform.

#8 Edited by chikenfriedrice (10530 posts) -

Doueventry_bro

#9 Posted by Maddie_Larkin (6568 posts) -

Nah, they had the best start, but a generation may run for a long time, and alot of Things can happen through 5+ years.

#10 Edited by DEadliNE-Zero0 (2931 posts) -

@SolidGame_basic said:

@parkurtommo said:

No, gamers won this gen. We get DRM, DLC, pre order incentives, graphical downgrades, DRM, DLC, DLC, DRM, what's not to like?

Yea, cause I'm sure Microsoft and Nintendo are thinking "hey, we're getting our asses kicked, but at least the consumer won!"

What kind of sad loser would for one second care that the corporation that owns their gaming console is making more money than the other companies?

Next you'll tell cows are happy if Sony's selling more TV's than Panasonic

We're the consumers, in case you missed it. Or, do you have stocks invested in sony?

#11 Posted by Bishop1310 (1109 posts) -

@Douevenlift_bro said:

I mean...its pretty much undeniable.

I'm actually rooting for Wii-U in 2nd Place. Xbone is an awkward pre-teen console not sure what it wants to be

PS: Did those "superior" devkits that allow for higher than 720/30FPS on the bone come in yet?

Inquiring minds are hungry.

If by sony winning you mean having my ps4 sit in my entertainment stand and collect dust while I wait for shit to play.. well then yes sony has won.

#12 Posted by SolidGame_basic (17983 posts) -

@deadline-zero0 said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

@parkurtommo said:

No, gamers won this gen. We get DRM, DLC, pre order incentives, graphical downgrades, DRM, DLC, DLC, DRM, what's not to like?

Yea, cause I'm sure Microsoft and Nintendo are thinking "hey, we're getting our asses kicked, but at least the consumer won!"

What kind of sad loser would for one second care that the corporation that owns their gaming console is making more money than the other companies?

Next you'll tell cows are happy if Sony's selling more TV's than Panasonic

We're the consumers, in case you missed it. Or, do you have stocks invested in sony?

First off - you're in system wars, btw. Second - of course we win when there's competition Third - a business is a business, and the goal IS to win. you know that, right?

#13 Posted by Suppaman100 (3947 posts) -

Of course.

Everyone who denies this is a fool. Hell, ban me if PS4 doesn't end as the most sold console of this gen.

#14 Posted by BldgIrsh (2701 posts) -

Another one of these threads? No neither console has won this gen yet.

#15 Edited by Snugenz (11892 posts) -

Sure why not, and in a few years if has still won make sure you make this same thread again and again.

#16 Posted by WallofTruth (1761 posts) -

@freedomfreak said:

Achja..

When did you turn German?

#17 Posted by tormentos (18390 posts) -

@mr_huggles_dog said:

As a PS4 lover and someone who likes Sony products......I have to disagree.

This gen just started. It's a marathon not a sprint.

That said....I'm glad my console of choice is the lead platform.

Loves sony use argument use by butthurt lemming since launch here..lol

Only thing missing is the PS3 came back analogy..lol

#18 Posted by freedomfreak (41040 posts) -
@walloftruth said:

When did you turn German?

Flemish.

Close enough.

#19 Posted by Suppaman100 (3947 posts) -

@walloftruth said:

@freedomfreak said:

Achja..

When did you turn German?

That's dutch if I'm not mistaken.

#20 Edited by MonsieurX (30489 posts) -
@parkurtommo said:

No, gamers won this gen. We get DRM, DLC, pre order incentives, graphical downgrades, DRM, DLC, DLC, DRM, what's not to like?

You win the thread

#21 Edited by slaves (1285 posts) -

No Gen 8 hasn't even started. It's very far from over.

#22 Edited by Telekill (4726 posts) -

@Wasdie: Exactly.

I remember these threads but in reverse last gen. "So 360 has won this gen right?"

If Sony could turn PS3 around and at least tie 360 sales, then I could see Microsoft doing the same with X1. They will really have to work for it though. No, I'm not saying X1 is selling poorly at all, they just need to step it up to catch up with the PS4.

#23 Edited by WallofTruth (1761 posts) -

@Suppaman100 said:

@walloftruth said:

@freedomfreak said:

Achja..

When did you turn German?

That's dutch if I'm not mistaken.

You're mistaken. It's German and means "oh well".

#24 Posted by TheTruthIsREAL (761 posts) -

Well, PS4 is the best place to play. The future is looking bright for Playstation. Sony? I am not so sure of. If Playstation ever gets sold, I hope the key staff moves along with it.

#25 Edited by lostrib (37804 posts) -

It hasn't even been a full year since PS4/X1 came out, give it a break

#26 Edited by EducatingU_PCMR (739 posts) -

No games and shitty firmware support.

M$ is laughing, not to mention they're not poor like Sony.

#27 Posted by Shewgenja (9640 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

Sounding an awfully lot like Xbox fanboys in late 2006/early 2007. We all saw how that turned out.

China and Zimbabwe will save the Xbone. Amirite?

#28 Posted by Shewgenja (9640 posts) -

@EducatingU_PCMR said:

M$ is laughing, not to mention they're not poor like Sony.

Lem, you are absolutely right about that. Microsoft investors are absolutely accustomed to obscene profits from business ventures. That's why WebTV and Zune have been runaway successes.

Oh, wait.

#29 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (16440 posts) -

The title makes it sound like the 9th gen is just around the corner.

#30 Posted by freedomfreak (41040 posts) -
@walloftruth said:

You're mistaken. It's German and means "oh well".

It's also Dutch. Means the same thing.

#31 Posted by blackace (20890 posts) -

@Douevenlift_bro said:

I mean...its pretty much undeniable.

I'm actually rooting for Wii-U in 2nd Place. Xbone is an awkward pre-teen console not sure what it wants to be

PS: Did those "superior" devkits that allow for higher than 720/30FPS on the bone come in yet?

Inquiring minds are hungry.

Nobody has won anything yet. The race just started. Do you see any XB1 games being announced at 720P anymore? LMAO!! Almost all XB1 games are now being announced as 1080P native. Do you need Sherlock Holmes to help you figure it out the answer?

#32 Posted by scottpsfan14 (5588 posts) -

I dare say so. We can't judge clearly really I suppose, it just seems likely is all.

But then back in 2006/2007 did you forsee the future of PS3?

#33 Posted by Mr_Huggles_dog (1220 posts) -

@tormentos: wait....what?

#34 Edited by Cobra_nVidia (1607 posts) -

They're certainly in a good position to win. That said, neither console has many notable games.

#35 Posted by sibu_xgamer (339 posts) -

Yep, since before it started.

#36 Edited by shadiezz2012 (2595 posts) -

not yet even though i want to say Yes

#37 Posted by Badosh (12733 posts) -

I won.

Ps4UBone4life

#38 Posted by jsmoke03 (12934 posts) -

less than a year in to the market....do i have to say more?

#39 Posted by StormyJoe (5497 posts) -

@Douevenlift_bro said:

I mean...its pretty much undeniable.

I'm actually rooting for Wii-U in 2nd Place. Xbone is an awkward pre-teen console not sure what it wants to be

PS: Did those "superior" devkits that allow for higher than 720/30FPS on the bone come in yet?

Inquiring minds are hungry.

This 7-8 year gen is 6 months old, and you are saying there is some sort of "winner" to declare...

Wow.

#40 Posted by Bikouchu35 (7458 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

@Wasdie said:

Sounding an awfully lot like Xbox fanboys in late 2006/early 2007. We all saw how that turned out.

China and Zimbabwe will save the Xbone. Amirite?

This.

Last gen was so Sony's own undoing not MS's success necessarily early on. Sony has the momentum, they have Japan which MS will never get in a million years, and PS brand is stronger in EU. Now as long as they match the NA sales than Sony will win. Ninty is crawling back to GCN status at this rate without the casual craze boosting their sale.

#41 Edited by bbkkristian (14957 posts) -

Ps4 ain't doing so hot in its home country.

#42 Posted by Floppy_Jim (25775 posts) -

Nah because "PS3 recovered so Xbone can too!" and "It's too early to say!" and other boring manticorey platitudes we're supposed to spew.

#43 Posted by ni6htmare01 (984 posts) -

Still early to tell, but it seems like it is heading that way for sure. As a PS4 owner this is a great news, it means more support from developers!

#44 Edited by DEadliNE-Zero0 (2931 posts) -

@SolidGame_basic said:

@deadline-zero0 said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

@parkurtommo said:

No, gamers won this gen. We get DRM, DLC, pre order incentives, graphical downgrades, DRM, DLC, DLC, DRM, what's not to like?

Yea, cause I'm sure Microsoft and Nintendo are thinking "hey, we're getting our asses kicked, but at least the consumer won!"

What kind of sad loser would for one second care that the corporation that owns their gaming console is making more money than the other companies?

Next you'll tell cows are happy if Sony's selling more TV's than Panasonic

We're the consumers, in case you missed it. Or, do you have stocks invested in sony?

First off - you're in system wars, btw. Second - of course we win when there's competition Third - a business is a business, and the goal IS to win. you know that, right?

1- yeah i know. This isn't my first account

2- So you get a cut of the profits if Sony makes money?

3- For sony and MS. Not you or the morons who care which comapny "wins". Again, unless you're getting some part of the profits or are making income by winning.

Discussing which platform is better, offer more value, has better games, etc, is what platform wars is all about. We, has gamers, experience that, which features are added, whic games can be played, how potential issues may affect them, and so on.

Only idiots care if Sony or MS are making more money than the other.

I've been os SW before, and i've always made fun of the sales wars. Dumbest discussion on these forums for years. I've always had that stance.

#45 Posted by thecruzan (94 posts) -

lol it's been about 9 months and you're already saying that the PS4 has won this generation?

#46 Edited by blackace (20890 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

@EducatingU_PCMR said:

M$ is laughing, not to mention they're not poor like Sony.

Lem, you are absolutely right about that. Microsoft investors are absolutely accustomed to obscene profits from business ventures. That's why WebTV and Zune have been runaway successes.

Oh, wait.

You act like other companies don't make a few bad products. What about Sony's MOVE and the disasterous PSPGo? Even the PSVita has had its shares of misfortunes. The difference with Microsoft and Sony however is even with the Zune and WebTV failures, Microsoft didn't have to sell HQ buildings, sell over $350 million in stocks and layoff over 9000 employees just to try and show a profit for one quarter. Even with that, Sony still lost almost a billion for the year. Sony even announced they would cut back development of AAA games for the PSVita. Are they doing that for the PS3 and PS4 as well? Even Nintendo made the terrible Virtual Boy years ago and the Wii VitalitySensor & Wii UDraw items were crap. Yet they still made billions off the Wii system and it's games. Sony made a nice little profit this quarter, but how well did their other businesses do. Sony is still expected huge losses for this year, even with PS4 doing so well.

#48 Posted by blackace (20890 posts) -

@TheTruthIsREAL said:

@blackace said:

@Shewgenja said:

@EducatingU_PCMR said:

M$ is laughing, not to mention they're not poor like Sony.

Lem, you are absolutely right about that. Microsoft investors are absolutely accustomed to obscene profits from business ventures. That's why WebTV and Zune have been runaway successes.

Oh, wait.

You act like other companies don't make a few bad products. What about Sony's MOVE and the disasterous PSPGo? Even the PSVita has had its shares of misfortunes. The difference with Microsoft and Sony however is even with the Zune and WebTV failures, Microsoft didn't have to sell HQ buildings, sell over $350 million in stocks and layoff over 9000 employees just to try and show a profit for one quarter. Even with that, Sony still lost almost a billion for the year. Sony even announced they would cut back development of AAA games for the PSVita. Are they doing that for the PS3 and PS4 as well? Even Nintendo made the terrible Virtual Boy years ago and the Wii VitalitySensor & Wii UDraw items were crap. Yet they still made billions off the Wii system and it's games. Sony made a nice little profit this quarter, but how well did their other businesses do. Sony is still expected huge losses for this year, even with PS4 doing so well.

Corporate slave. You're not just a fan of Xbox, like an xbot should be... but a fan of the corporation. Pretty sad that you work for these guys for free.

I don't work for any of them. I understand the facts can sting a little bit for biased fanboys. Sorry about that. You should already know this. "The Truth will set you free." lol!! I couldn't resist.

#49 Posted by kingjazziephiz (2433 posts) -

@mr_huggles_dog: system wars is his life, don't worry about him lol

#50 Posted by Shielder7 (5152 posts) -

@mr_huggles_dog said:

This gen just started. It's a marathon not a sprint.

That's just MS PR Bull Crap, having a strong start will net you more income in the long run because you're going to sell more software over a longer period of time at full price.