skip next gen until 1080p n 60FPS becomes the standard

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#1 Super_King_Fly
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Its a joke that I have to throw down my hard earned money and cant even play at 1080 n 60fps yet.

The PC has a lot of disadvantages and thats why PC gaming is dying but at least they get 1080 and 60fps games.

And how can you even play a wii with those fuzzy graphics running at 568p and below locked at 20-30 fps.

no wonder games are getting delayed.

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#2  Edited By -Unreal-
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Or get a job and buy a PC.

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#3 freedomfreak
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Like hell I'm skipping out on an entire gen filled with games.

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#4 Super_King_Fly
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@-Unreal-: I have a job and have a gaming laptop but cant justice buying a pc for 5k just to play games at 1080 and 60fps just to upgrade it every year.

plus you need virus protection whixh isnt cheap

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#5 waltefmoney
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60fps will never be the standard on consoles.

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#6  Edited By Harisemo
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If you find games unplayable below 60FPS and 1080p then get a PC

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#7  Edited By Lumpy311
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@super_king_fly said:

@-Unreal-: I have a job and have a gaming laptop but cant justice buying a pc for 5k just to play games at 1080 and 60fps just to upgrade it every year.

plus you need virus protection whixh isnt cheap

0/10

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#8 GTSaiyanjin2
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just quit gaming TC

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#9  Edited By -Unreal-
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@super_king_fly said:

@-Unreal-: I have a job and have a gaming laptop but cant justice buying a pc for 5k just to play games at 1080 and 60fps just to upgrade it every year.

plus you need virus protection whixh isnt cheap

Virus protection is free.

5K what? Lego Bricks? Chocolate pennies? Sheets of A4 paper? What currency are you talking about?

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#10  Edited By I_can_haz
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Like hell I'll be skipping on the next Naughty Dog or Media Molecule game lol. Screw that, my love for great exclusives is higher than my love for nice graphics.

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#11 tormentos
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Is not even standard on PC where more powerful GPU roam...

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#12 -Unreal-
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@tormentos said:

Is not even standard on PC where more powerful GPU roam...

It is if you lower the graphics to console settings.

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No shits given.

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@super_king_fly said:

Its a joke that I have to throw down my hard earned money and cant even play at 1080 n 60fps yet.

The PC has a lot of disadvantages and thats why PC gaming is dying but at least they get 1080 and 60fps games.

And how can you even play a wii with those fuzzy graphics running at 568p and below locked at 20-30 fps.

no wonder games are getting delayed.

PC gaming is bigger than ever. Also, I would love to know what the disadvantages are...

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#15 Lumpy311
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@tormentos said:

Is not even standard on PC where more powerful GPU roam...

Yes it is.

Stay mad your PS4 can't even do 1080p 60 fps for Battlefield 4.

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#16  Edited By Murderstyle75
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The joke is the fact that you think you can see a difference in resolutions.

Its different on the PC because you sit inches away from the monitor.

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#17 clyde46
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My PC works just fine.

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#18  Edited By crimsonman1245
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30 FPS will always be the main design choice on consoles, most games dont need to be 60 FPS.

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#19  Edited By lostrib
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PC gaming isn't dying though

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#20 ManInFlames-77
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PC gaming is dying though.

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#21  Edited By clyde46
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@maninflames-77 said:

PC gaming is dying though.

Been dying since 1998. PC gaming is a tough bastard.

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#22 Lumpy311
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@maninflames-77 said:

PC gaming is dying though.

Mad because Console Gaming is for people who can't afford good things?

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#23 MK-Professor
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@Lumpy311 said:

@tormentos said:

Is not even standard on PC where more powerful GPU roam...

Yes it is.

Stay mad your PS4 can't even do 1080p 60 fps for Battlefield 4.

He will get even more mad, when I will tell him that i play games at 2560x1440 60fps

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#24 lostrib
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@maninflames-77 said:

PC gaming is dying though.

oh shut up heewee

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#25  Edited By k2theswiss
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Nope>>>>> im not skipping years of gaming... you will never achieve 60fps on console as a standard. At least until chips become upgradeable by updates. As time goes on devs want to keep going bigger and bigger which takes more resources. Sure devs learn new tricks. But how far does that go? You can boycot but these systema coat billions to get started. That sir is no chump change

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#26  Edited By Lumpy311
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@MK-Professor said:

@Lumpy311 said:

@tormentos said:

Is not even standard on PC where more powerful GPU roam...

Yes it is.

Stay mad your PS4 can't even do 1080p 60 fps for Battlefield 4.

He will get even more mad, when I will tell him that i play games at 2560x1440 60fps

He will probably implode if you rub that in his face.

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#27  Edited By TheTruthIsREAL
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It will never be the standard for consoles so might as well just quit console gaming. Developers are going to try to push the hardware. When casuals buy a next series in a game, such as NBA 2k series, they expect new to look better than the old.

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#28 Lumpy311
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@k2theswiss said:

Nope>>>>> im not skipping years of gaming... you will never achieve 60fps on console as a standard. At least until chips become upgradeable by updates. As time goes on devs want to keep going bigger and bigger which takes more resources. Sure devs learn new tricks.

Yep.

This is what makes me like PC gaming even more, games will get bigger, they will look better, they will have less load screens, (some day they will have none).

Imagine how much power that would require to go at 60 fps.

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#30 deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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@freedomfreak:

Amen freak. You'll played all these games this generation without any game being 1080p 60fps so why are you'll making a fuse about it not happening right away now? Either console will not be a waste of money with a least another 6 or 7 year life cycle upon us.

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#31  Edited By PrincessGomez92
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@lostrib said:

@maninflames-77 said:

PC gaming is dying though.

oh shut up heewee

When's he getting banned?

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#32 Lumpy311
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@princessgomez92 said:

@lostrib said:

@maninflames-77 said:

PC gaming is dying though.

oh shut up heewee

When's he getting banned?

2 months~

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#33  Edited By Truth_Hurts_U
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By the time a new gen comes after this coming one. 8k TV will be standard.

1080 will look like crap.

Gonna need a 80 Tflop GPU for 60FPS.

But console will for sure never have that much. More like 20 Tflop. Enough to do 4k 30 FPS.

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#34 Puckhog04
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All I hear i whining...

So skip it. While you skip it I'll be enjoying great games on my Wii U, XbOne, and PS4.

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#35  Edited By NameIess_One
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@Puckhog04 said:

All I hear i whining...

So skip it. While you skip it I'll be enjoying great games on my Wii U, XbOne, and PS4.

"Console gamer since 1988. Own every console back to the NES. Prefer a Controller for everything."

When can we expect the next flip-flop?

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#37 Netret0120
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Miss out on all the great Sony exclusives?!

Umm no.

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#38  Edited By HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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Next next gen you are going to have the same crap only with consoles not being capable of 4k. If you want the best graphics you need a PC it's as simple as that. Arguing spec differences and inefficiencies between consoles is for the simple minded :)

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#39 SKaREO
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PC gaming is experiencing a slow and painful death. It's been dragging on for almost 15 years now.

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#40 Murderstyle75
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@Truth_Hurts_U:

And exactly what kind of benefit would you even have from an 8k display in a living room setting let alone a 4k display? Your set would have to be at least 100 inches.

Even with a all this talk about 1080p vs 720p. You cannot tell the difference unless you are either playing on a small monitor while sitting either a few feet away in a bedroom or on a living room set, 50 inches or bigger. It appears many people in this thread are just victims of marketing specs from television manufacturers trying to get people to upgrade their 720p sets prematurely. It's not much different than the same manufacturers boasting about contrast ratios that the human eye cannot detect or home theater and headphone companies boasting about massive frequency responses you cannot hear.

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#41 gameofthering
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@Murderstyle75 said:

@Truth_Hurts_U:

And exactly what kind of benefit would you even have from an 8k display in a living room setting let alone a 4k display? Your set would have to be at least 100 inches.

Even with a all this talk about 1080p vs 720p. You cannot tell the difference unless you are either playing on a small monitor while sitting either a few feet away in a bedroom or on a living room set, 50 inches or bigger. It appears many people in this thread are just victims of marketing specs from television manufacturers trying to get people to upgrade their 720p sets prematurely. It's not much different than the same manufacturers boasting about contrast ratios that the human eye cannot detect or home theater and headphone companies boasting about massive frequency responses you cannot hear.

The difference is noticeable on both a monitor and TV

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#42  Edited By Murderstyle75
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@gameofthering:

No its not. Either you are fooling yourself into thinking that, your 1080p set is just of better quality than your 720p or your set isn't properly calibrated. In order to get any benefit from 1080p in your living room on a set below 50 inches is if you are sitting closer than 10 to 12 feet away.

So basically unless you have a monster set or you are a child who plays in his bedroom, you don't need 1080p.

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#43 Murderstyle75
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Here is one of many articles on the subject.

http://m.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/720p-vs-1080p-can-you-tell-the-difference-between-hdtv-resolutions/

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#44 Eddie-Vedder
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The ignorance is astounding. When 1080p 60 frames is standard for consoles, PC's will be doing 4k resolutions with 120fs or some shit, any game on consoles can be 1080p with 60 fps it's a trade off that's made by the devs because they know they can make the game look better with other effects.

The only reason we make a big deal about it is to compare consoles, as in if one can do it aka PS4, and the Xboner can't we get to make fun of lems.

Every gen will be the same, fixed hardware always has the trade off. Always, next gen will be the same thing, the one after that too. Learn2Tech.

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#45 Murderstyle75
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@Eddie-Vedder:

And again. Console gaming will never need a 4k resolution and neither does a PC if you are the type who has their tower plugged into their living room set. There’s a reason why some of the first 4K devices on the market are projectors and giant 84-inch monsters like the Sony XBR 84X900. While this is great in a sports bar, most of us will never have this size in our living room.

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#46  Edited By Lumpy311
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@Murderstyle75 said:

@Eddie-Vedder:

And again. Console gaming will never need a 4k resolution and neither does a PC if you are the type who has their tower plugged into their living room set. There’s a reason why some of the first 4K devices on the market are projectors and giant 84-inch monsters like the Sony XBR 84X900. While this is great in a sports bar, most of us will never have this size in our living room.

4k is gonna be standard some day.

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#47 dantesergei
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Yes your so right ! i dont even understand why i was going to buy a console. F*ck games, i'm not playing any anymore until every game on consoles is 1080p and 60 Fps and i mean everyone !

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#48 thedude-
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I have noticed that some people on here would prefer a completely drab boring game if it had "native 1080p" on the back of the box. Sometimes other things are put in place of having that golden standard resolution like better phsyics and a more vibrant artstyle or gameplay that is truly smooth.

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#49  Edited By Puckhog04
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@NameIess_One said:

@Puckhog04 said:

All I hear i whining...

So skip it. While you skip it I'll be enjoying great games on my Wii U, XbOne, and PS4.

"Console gamer since 1988. Own every console back to the NES. Prefer a Controller for everything."

When can we expect the next flip-flop?

What? I've had the same signature for I can't remember how long. I added the Vita and stuff after the site redesign. W/e though.

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#50 PrincessGomez92
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@Puckhog04 said:

@NameIess_One said:

@Puckhog04 said:

All I hear i whining...

So skip it. While you skip it I'll be enjoying great games on my Wii U, XbOne, and PS4.

"Console gamer since 1988. Own every console back to the NES. Prefer a Controller for everything."

When can we expect the next flip-flop?

What? I've had the same signature for I can't remember how long. I added the Vita and stuff after the site redesign. W/e though.

Oh please, you keep flip flopping between console gamer and PC gamer.