Since the Wii-U Won E3 2014, What Games Can X1 & PS4 Offer?

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#1 Edited by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

Whether PS4 or X1 fanboys want to admit it or not, the general consensus from game sites and mags have agreed Nintendo won E3.

So after we were all blown away by such massive games like the new open world Zelda, and Yoshi's Wooly World, The customizable Super Mario, and Splatoon.

What can X1 or PS4 possibly offer that would begin to touch any of the above mentioned titles in sales?

Especially after we saw such titles as Super Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3 and Mario Kart 8 launch Wii-U sales through the roof.

I'm aware of such upcoming titles as Halo and Uncharted, but neither of those will propel system sales like Nintendo 1st party titles.

Ya' have to admit no games sell like Nintendo 1st party titles, and with those systems sales boosts for each Nintendo exclusive the third party sales will be close behind.

#2 Posted by lostrib (37473 posts) -

E3?

...it's practically september

#3 Edited by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@lostrib:

Yup it's almost September

And Nintendo just hit one million sales for Mario Kart 8 in the U.S. Alone.......There 1st party titles are unstoppable.

#4 Posted by farrell2k (6323 posts) -

The PS4 and XB1 have no worthwhile exclusives that even come close to matching the WiiU in 2014 or 2015.

#5 Posted by lostrib (37473 posts) -

@Slimmin360 said:

@lostrib:

And Nintendo just hit one million sales for Mario Kart 8 in the U.S. Alone.......There 1st party titles are unstoppable.

Yup it is september

...didn't that game come out in may? I think Sony/MS exclusives did better than that

#6 Posted by foxhound_fox (88648 posts) -

Nothing until 2015.

#7 Posted by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@lostrib:

Infamous S.S. and Titanfall didn't come close to one million in the U.S. alone, but hypothetically even if they did, which I don't think they did, you have to realize the hardware ratio of the Wii-U in comparison to X1 and PS4 because X1 I think is almost at 10 million and the PS4 at 12 million worldwide whereas the Wii-U is bringing up the rear with a little over 9 million worldwide, so Mario Kart selling over a million copies in the U.S. alone is a huge accompllishment.

#8 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4894 posts) -

this is an outstanding thread with compelling arguments, but i'm still not willing to plug my wii u back into the hdmi port, or the power.

very sorry.

#9 Posted by GunSmith1_basic (9810 posts) -

Nintendo has won quite a few e3's during the period where they are declining. It doesn't mean a whole lot.

#10 Edited by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@GunSmith1_basic:

We'll see !

#11 Posted by TuuPumpChump (96 posts) -

Haha...Wii U.

Let's see Mario, Mario, and yoshi platformers. And a Zelda game. Gonna have to bring more than that to win.

#12 Edited by Basinboy (11221 posts) -

@farrell2k said:

The PS4 and XB1 have no worthwhile exclusives that even come close to matching the WiiU in 2014 or 2015.

#13 Posted by FreedomFreeLife (2501 posts) -

@Basinboy said:

@farrell2k said:

The PS4 and XB1 have no worthwhile exclusives that even come close to matching the WiiU in 2014 or 2015.

40 exclusives

http://psgamer.co.uk/features/451/the-40-ps4-exclusives-that-are-still-to-come-in-2014/3/

More than Wii U last 3 years

#14 Posted by lostrib (37473 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@Basinboy said:

@farrell2k said:

The PS4 and XB1 have no worthwhile exclusives that even come close to matching the WiiU in 2014 or 2015.

40 exclusives

http://psgamer.co.uk/features/451/the-40-ps4-exclusives-that-are-still-to-come-in-2014/3/

More than Wii U last 3 years

...the first game on that link isn't even exclusive

At least try, fakeboy

#15 Posted by getyeryayasout (7598 posts) -

3rd party.

#16 Posted by farrell2k (6323 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@Basinboy said:

@farrell2k said:

The PS4 and XB1 have no worthwhile exclusives that even come close to matching the WiiU in 2014 or 2015.

40 exclusives

http://psgamer.co.uk/features/451/the-40-ps4-exclusives-that-are-still-to-come-in-2014/3/

More than Wii U last 3 years

Two on the very first are not exclusive and one if a port of a pc game from years ago. lulz. WiiU's exclusive lineup dominates the competition this year and next!

#17 Posted by 93BlackHawk93 (5628 posts) -

@tuupumpchump said:

Haha...Wii U.

Let's see Mario, Mario, and yoshi platformers. And a Zelda game. Gonna have to bring more than that to win.

That's enough to win the mediocre E3 everyone had.

At least list Captain Toad, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. and localized 3DS games.

#18 Posted by xxyetixx (1296 posts) -

You know I found out some interesting news about the WiiU while I was at game stop today as I was looking to get a WiiU for my kids for Xmas.

You can't use 2 of the screened controllers on a single WiiU wtf?!?!?! I have 2 kids and that's just not a headache I want to give myself. So now it's doubting the whole WiiU purchase.

That's a big WiiU fail!!!!

#19 Posted by mariokart64fan (19522 posts) -

Lol wiiu support 5 players how is that a fail and did someone say Xbox one sold 10 million ps4 is at 12 m your numbers are wrong in fact ps4 is at 10 m wiiu 7 m and Xbox one is bringing up the rear with 5 million

#20 Posted by xxyetixx (1296 posts) -

@mariokart64fan: it might support 5 players but you can only use one screen/touch pad controller and that's it's gimmick how is that not a fail

#21 Posted by bunchanumbers (1341 posts) -

This year? Not much. MS has the Halo MCC and I'm not sure what PS4 has for this year. I think its just Driveclub? Either way its not looking good for first party exclusives this year. Even in 2015 you're looking at The Order and Uncharted. MS' 2015 looks pretty good though.

#22 Edited by HalcyonScarlet (4488 posts) -

@xxyetixx said:

You know I found out some interesting news about the WiiU while I was at game stop today as I was looking to get a WiiU for my kids for Xmas.

You can't use 2 of the screened controllers on a single WiiU wtf?!?!?! I have 2 kids and that's just not a headache I want to give myself. So now it's doubting the whole WiiU purchase.

That's a big WiiU fail!!!!

Is this true? I never knew that, I thought the problem was that they were expensive but it could be done. If that is the case, that is a fail. It would have been the perfect way to bring split screen gaming back.

#23 Posted by Heirren (17287 posts) -

Lol ps4 Xbox. Build pc, keep wiiu.

#24 Posted by MBirdy88 (8309 posts) -

@xxyetixx said:

You know I found out some interesting news about the WiiU while I was at game stop today as I was looking to get a WiiU for my kids for Xmas.

You can't use 2 of the screened controllers on a single WiiU wtf?!?!?! I have 2 kids and that's just not a headache I want to give myself. So now it's doubting the whole WiiU purchase.

That's a big WiiU fail!!!!

... it does support up to 2.... but they are ridiculously expensive. (£250 console.... nintendo charge £180 if it breaks apperently.) and the power that would consume aswell... you cant treat it as a normal controller.

The screen isnt that important anyway ... just get a wii mote an nunchuck or pro controller to go with it,.

#25 Posted by rrjim1 (910 posts) -

I will purchase a Wii U when it has some good games that I want to play, it hasn't happened yet.

#26 Posted by Maddie_Larkin (6553 posts) -

Well they can focus on making more games? in the end all that counts, but yeah Nintendo had the best no BS E3 I've seen for years (practically over a generation).

So 2014 is in Nintendos favor, and 2015 sofar seems like a mix between Nintendo and 3rd Party Again, although MS and Sony seems to get moveing somewhat in 2015.

#27 Edited by Speak_Low (1097 posts) -

Still debatable that Wii U/Nintendo won E3. They improved from the pathetic showing last year but are still missing so many games, and their sales post-E3 got a 140k bump from Mario Kart 8, but then a decline back to pathetic 80k in July (WTF?) and sales in Japan are also back down to near PS4 levels (yeah, the levels you laughed at are now where the Wii U is almost back to in JPN, even with Hyrule Warriors out and Bayo 2 coming out)

E3 is not just a place to show off trailers. You can do that all year. It's supposed to be a major stimulus for sales, and to increase the attractiveness of your console to consumers and devs (are more devs going to be coming back now to Wii U after their E3 showing? NO. FAIL).

This is why Sheep say Nintendo wins every E3 every year, but they never consider those other important, reliant signs of success (they just happen to pretend to overlook it and think we others will forget about it). They also have no argument about why the sales and developer support haven't dramatically improved, so they try to avoid it as much as possible in thread discussions.

PS4/X1 will be like PS360 and perform like marathon consoles (and the PS4/X1 aren't doing that bad now, compared to the launch years of the previous consoles). Nintendo makes short-lived consoles and have to show their best sales closer to the start and middle. And here they are, nearly two years out to build a larger fanbase, more support than Wii, to raise sales of software/hardware considerably, and yet they still fail on so many levels. But they showed an unplayable, zero-gameplay Zelda trailer (after they laughed at the unplayable Uncharted 4 trailer), and they "won E3 unanimously" and now PS4/X1 should be scared of this new Nintendo - lmao. Wii U is the weakest competitor and it's the other way around (Nintendo needs to figure out how to sell more games and consoles like Sony/MS).

#28 Posted by handssss (1837 posts) -

it's a shame it has literally no 3rd party which means it misses the majority of game releases.

Keep in mind, the marketing this thing had before it released-right after it released was "we're doing this for core gamers! we have 3rd party support like Mass Effect, Batman, and AC!"

not even getting the last gen AC this fall or Call of Duty.

#29 Posted by xxyetixx (1296 posts) -

@MBirdy88: dude it doesn't exists you can't even buy a 2nd one. Most games aren't developed to use a 2nd wiiu game pad player 2 is stuck using wii mote/nunchuck or their 360 type controller!

#30 Posted by Telekill (4684 posts) -

Whoever won E3 is subjective based upon the games that you like. For instance, with the reveal of Uncharted 4, I personally think Sony won E3.

#31 Posted by cainetao11 (17691 posts) -

Splatoon and Zelda is all I care about. Wooly Yoshi, capt whatever can roll in shit for all I care. If I like more of what I see on the other consoles what fuckin good is a "win" at E3?

#32 Posted by cainetao11 (17691 posts) -

@Slimmin360 said:

@lostrib:

Infamous S.S. and Titanfall didn't come close to one million in the U.S. alone, but hypothetically even if they did, which I don't think they did, you have to realize the hardware ratio of the Wii-U in comparison to X1 and PS4 because X1 I think is almost at 10 million and the PS4 at 12 million worldwide whereas the Wii-U is bringing up the rear with a little over 9 million worldwide, so Mario Kart selling over a million copies in the U.S. alone is a huge accompllishment.

How deep are you pulling these numbers from your anus?

#33 Posted by MonsieurX (30404 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@Basinboy said:

@farrell2k said:

The PS4 and XB1 have no worthwhile exclusives that even come close to matching the WiiU in 2014 or 2015.

40 exclusives

http://psgamer.co.uk/features/451/the-40-ps4-exclusives-that-are-still-to-come-in-2014/3/

More than Wii U last 3 years

Non exclusives and indies everywhere

lolz

#34 Edited by speedfreak48t5p (8109 posts) -

Indy games, weeaboo games, and hd remakes. Remakestation 4 confirmed.

#35 Posted by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@xxyetixx said:

@mariokart64fan: it might support 5 players but you can only use one screen/touch pad controller and that's it's gimmick how is that not a fail

Why would you need two touch pad controllers, i have two kids also, but unless their spoiled rotten, all they should really care about is playing the game, because most multiplayer games don't require use of the screen anyway.

However even if it becomes an issue there is such a thing as teaching your kids to take turns, or the one left whining for the tablet controller can just be told that his Wii-mote controller will still be working days after the tablet controller batteries die out and has to be recharged.

#37 Edited by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -
@Telekill said:

Whoever won E3 is subjective based upon the games that you like. For instance, with the reveal of Uncharted 4, I personally think Sony won E3.

What i am mainly talking about is the flaw in both the PS4 and Xbox One hardware, those two consoles are more like computers now then they've ever been, and in my mind that's a very bad thing.

Those consoles have so much crap running at once and so much B.S. tied into their networks that link to the games, before you know it when one thing goes wrong it all goes down, and it's become more trouble than it's worth.

Who the hell wants to be bothered worrying about hard drive space or if certain games will be playable if the network goes down....console gamers, as far as i know just want to put the game in, push start and get to playing.....just like the good ol' days of the cartridge format.

As of right now the Wii-U is the only console left that's the closest one to that, just pop the game in and your playing in seconds...and that kind of hassle free hardware coupled with those 1st party showings at E3 is the only choice for me.

#38 Edited by glez13 (8874 posts) -

Why do sheep continue with this? WiiU is almost dead in the water because it lacks 3rd party, it's 1st party simply is enough from keeping it from sinking and giving it a slight impulse.

#39 Posted by dalger21 (1165 posts) -

It's so sad that repeated Mario and Zelda games are the reason Wii U "won" E3. But I guess that's where we are with Nintendo these days.

#40 Edited by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@glez13 said:

Why do sheep continue with this? WiiU is almost dead in the water because it lacks 3rd party, it's 1st party simply is enough from keeping it from sinking and giving it a slight impulse.

LOL you are a disrespectful graphics lover aren't you ? If it wasn't for Nintendo there would be no game industry, maybe if you realized that your opinion might count for something.

#41 Posted by glez13 (8874 posts) -

@Slimmin360 said:

@glez13 said:

Why do sheep continue with this? WiiU is almost dead in the water because it lacks 3rd party, it's 1st party simply is enough from keeping it from sinking and giving it a slight impulse.

LOL you are a disrespectful graphics lover aren't you ? If it wasn't for Nintendo there would be no game industry, maybe if you realized that your opinion might count for something.

Nothing you said makes sense.

What does anything I said have to do with graphics?

If it wasn't for Nintendo there would be no game industry? LOL!

#42 Posted by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@glez13 said:

@Slimmin360 said:

@glez13 said:

Why do sheep continue with this? WiiU is almost dead in the water because it lacks 3rd party, it's 1st party simply is enough from keeping it from sinking and giving it a slight impulse.

LOL you are a disrespectful graphics lover aren't you ? If it wasn't for Nintendo there would be no game industry, maybe if you realized that your opinion might count for something.

Nothing you said makes sense.

What does anything I said have to do with graphics?

If it wasn't for Nintendo there would be no game industry? LOL!

You bash Nintendo without batting an eye, so you must prefer the superior hardware of X1 and PS4..which would make prettier graphics your preference.

Secondly the year was 1983 the original Atari systems were dying off, Atari 2600 cartridges were being buried in the desert by the thousands, the game industry about to become a memory, then Nintendo released the NES and games like Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda and Punch Out gave birth to a new generation of home video gaming and the industry has been going strong ever since.

So yes without Nintendo there would be no game industry.

#43 Edited by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@tuupumpchump said:

Haha...Wii U.

Let's see Mario, Mario, and yoshi platformers. And a Zelda game. Gonna have to bring more than that to win.

Do you get Game Informer magazine ? because every time a Nintendo 1st party title is released and reviewed it gets awarded their Gold, Platinum or Silver Game of the month along with the highest review score for that month above all...including PC, PS4 and X1 games, don't believe me ?, check the mags with Mario Kart 8, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, Pikmin 3, Super Mario 3D world.

So laugh that one off.....but you'll probably just dismiss Game informer as an unreliable source or a joke of a magazine altogether, but regardless it is the most subscribed to and widely generated magazine in the world both digitally and in print, especially since it's tied into Gamestop stores, so i guess your comment is a nice fat fail.

#44 Posted by always_explicit (2932 posts) -

@Slimmin360 said:

@glez13 said:

@Slimmin360 said:

@glez13 said:

Why do sheep continue with this? WiiU is almost dead in the water because it lacks 3rd party, it's 1st party simply is enough from keeping it from sinking and giving it a slight impulse.

LOL you are a disrespectful graphics lover aren't you ? If it wasn't for Nintendo there would be no game industry, maybe if you realized that your opinion might count for something.

Nothing you said makes sense.

What does anything I said have to do with graphics?

If it wasn't for Nintendo there would be no game industry? LOL!

You bash Nintendo without batting an eye, so you must prefer the superior hardware of X1 and PS4..which would make prettier graphics your preference.

Secondly the year was 1983 the original Atari systems were dying off, Atari 2600 cartridges were being buried in the desert by the thousands, the game industry about to become a memory, then Nintendo released the NES and games like Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda and Punch Out gave birth to a new generation of home video gaming and the industry has been going strong ever since.

So yes without Nintendo there would be no game industry.

I hate it when people say Nintendo are responsible for the games industry. If it wasnt Nintendo it would have been another company.

#45 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2376 posts) -

im sorry but the wii u is pretty dam garbage, the PS4/X1 completely outclasses it and the plenty of games coming out this holiday season is going to rip Wii U apart and anything related to Wii U, Wii U SUCKS. point blank

#46 Posted by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@always_explicit said:

@Slimmin360 said:

@glez13 said:

@Slimmin360 said:

@glez13 said:

Why do sheep continue with this? WiiU is almost dead in the water because it lacks 3rd party, it's 1st party simply is enough from keeping it from sinking and giving it a slight impulse.

LOL you are a disrespectful graphics lover aren't you ? If it wasn't for Nintendo there would be no game industry, maybe if you realized that your opinion might count for something.

Nothing you said makes sense.

What does anything I said have to do with graphics?

If it wasn't for Nintendo there would be no game industry? LOL!

You bash Nintendo without batting an eye, so you must prefer the superior hardware of X1 and PS4..which would make prettier graphics your preference.

Secondly the year was 1983 the original Atari systems were dying off, Atari 2600 cartridges were being buried in the desert by the thousands, the game industry about to become a memory, then Nintendo released the NES and games like Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda and Punch Out gave birth to a new generation of home video gaming and the industry has been going strong ever since.

So yes without Nintendo there would be no game industry.

I hate it when people say Nintendo are responsible for the games industry. If it wasnt Nintendo it would have been another company.

But it wasn't another company, Atari, Colecovision and Intellivision were dead, and the world gaming market was wide open to anyone, and like it or not it WAS Nintendo that stepped up and started it all and kept it going ever since.

#47 Posted by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@xboxiphoneps3 said:

im sorry but the wii u is pretty dam garbage, the PS4/X1 completely outclasses it and the plenty of games coming out this holiday season is going to rip Wii U apart and anything related to Wii U, Wii U SUCKS. point blank

Given your lack of proper grammar and the fact that you couldn't even spell damn correctly, i'll take into consideration your between 12 to 21 years of age, and therefore know nothing of the gaming industry.

You most likely ran up to mommy and daddy, or Santa depending on your age and asked for a PS4 or Xbox One for Christmas because you saw some big shiny G.I. Joe looking military guy's in a Sony or Microsoft TV ad running around shooting one another and thought that it was the best thing ever.

Um, yeah that does not encompass the entire gaming universe, i know that's a shock to you but it doesn't, so run along my boy school is starting up again, go back to the 7th grade and learn about math, history, english and science, because although you might never use any of that knowledge, at least you might retain some of it, because your only embarrassing yourself here with your complete lack of gaming knowledge.

So concludes our lesson for today...run along now.

#48 Posted by always_explicit (2932 posts) -

@Slimmin360 said:

@always_explicit said:

@Slimmin360 said:

@glez13 said:

@Slimmin360 said:

@glez13 said:

Why do sheep continue with this? WiiU is almost dead in the water because it lacks 3rd party, it's 1st party simply is enough from keeping it from sinking and giving it a slight impulse.

LOL you are a disrespectful graphics lover aren't you ? If it wasn't for Nintendo there would be no game industry, maybe if you realized that your opinion might count for something.

Nothing you said makes sense.

What does anything I said have to do with graphics?

If it wasn't for Nintendo there would be no game industry? LOL!

You bash Nintendo without batting an eye, so you must prefer the superior hardware of X1 and PS4..which would make prettier graphics your preference.

Secondly the year was 1983 the original Atari systems were dying off, Atari 2600 cartridges were being buried in the desert by the thousands, the game industry about to become a memory, then Nintendo released the NES and games like Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda and Punch Out gave birth to a new generation of home video gaming and the industry has been going strong ever since.

So yes without Nintendo there would be no game industry.

I hate it when people say Nintendo are responsible for the games industry. If it wasnt Nintendo it would have been another company.

But it wasn't another company, Atari, Colecovision and Intellivision were dead, and the world gaming market was wide open to anyone, and like it or not it WAS Nintendo that stepped up and started it all and kept it going ever since.

So there would have been a game industry without Nintendo. They are an established company in a huge industry, nothing more nothing less.

Claiming the gaming industry would be non existent without nintendo is like saying music would be dead without UMG. Its bollocks. Industries of all kinds change and evolve. There's always gaps in markets and new players. Nintendo are just established. Im not knocking the company, im knocking the cult of followers that think there would be no industry without them.

#49 Posted by Slimmin360 (1485 posts) -

@always_explicit said:

@Slimmin360 said:

@always_explicit said:

@Slimmin360 said:

@glez13 said:

@Slimmin360 said:

@glez13 said:

Why do sheep continue with this? WiiU is almost dead in the water because it lacks 3rd party, it's 1st party simply is enough from keeping it from sinking and giving it a slight impulse.

LOL you are a disrespectful graphics lover aren't you ? If it wasn't for Nintendo there would be no game industry, maybe if you realized that your opinion might count for something.

Nothing you said makes sense.

What does anything I said have to do with graphics?

If it wasn't for Nintendo there would be no game industry? LOL!

You bash Nintendo without batting an eye, so you must prefer the superior hardware of X1 and PS4..which would make prettier graphics your preference.

Secondly the year was 1983 the original Atari systems were dying off, Atari 2600 cartridges were being buried in the desert by the thousands, the game industry about to become a memory, then Nintendo released the NES and games like Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda and Punch Out gave birth to a new generation of home video gaming and the industry has been going strong ever since.

So yes without Nintendo there would be no game industry.

I hate it when people say Nintendo are responsible for the games industry. If it wasnt Nintendo it would have been another company.

But it wasn't another company, Atari, Colecovision and Intellivision were dead, and the world gaming market was wide open to anyone, and like it or not it WAS Nintendo that stepped up and started it all and kept it going ever since.

So there would have been a game industry without Nintendo. They are an established company in a huge industry, nothing more nothing less.

Claiming the gaming industry would be non existent without nintendo is like saying music would be dead without UMG. Its bollocks. Industries of all kinds change and evolve. There's always gaps in markets and new players. Nintendo are just established. Im not knocking the company, im knocking the cult of followers that think there would be no industry without them.

I understand what your saying but there is nothing wrong with having a cult following, actually if apple computer didn't have a cult following they might have very well have gone bankrupt in the late 90's before Steve Jobs returned to literally save his company from the ashes and bring it back to the billion dollar company it has become today.

Nothing wrong with a cult following at all, infact game franchises like Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Donkey Kong, Punch Out, Metroid, Yoshi, they have become near and dear to many a Nintendo and even non Nintendo lovers hearts over the years, and yes have developed quite a "cult " following.

Now is it because of those games that i say Nintendo saved the industry? no, they happen to be the one that took a chance and invested an idea in the gaming market at precisely the right time and in my opinion saved it from becoming a memory, while at the same time giving birth to alot of beloved first party franchises that alot of us still adore and love and look forward to, to this very day.

#50 Posted by charizard1605 (58077 posts) -

PS4 has Persona 5. This console war is over.