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#1 Wanderer5
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Silicon Knights has been ordered to recall and destroy all unsold copies of its games built on Unreal Engine 3. According to arecent ruling by the North Carolina District Court,Silicon Knightsshall cease producing or distributing and recall and destroy all unsold copies ofToo Human, The Box/Ritualyst, The Sandman,X-Men: Destinyand Siren in the Maelstrom at its own expense.

A judge also ruled that Silicon Knights must now pay Epic an additional $278,000 in court costs, $2.09 million in attorney fees and $2.3 million in pre-judgment interest. Joined with theprevious ruling that Silicon Knights owes Epic $4.45 million, Epic is now owed approximately $9 million.


These guys are so screwed.

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#2 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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Man... and to think these guys made Eternal Darkness

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#3 DarkLink77
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So, if you want a copy of Too Human, get it now, because it's gonna be scarce soon.

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This would suck if they actually made good games
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This would suck if they actually made good gamesCapitan_Kid

Have you played Eternal Darkness? Something tells me you didnt...

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Canadian tax dollars at work
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#7 HarlockJC
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So, if you want a copy of Too Human, get it now, because it's gonna be scarce soon.

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It;s only unsold copies new copies so it will not matter. It's been out of print for awhile
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#8 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

So, if you want a copy of Too Human, get it now, because it's gonna be scarce soon.

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It;s only unsold copies new copies so it will not matter. It's been out of print for awhile

Well, I'm sure a place like Amazon has some unsold copies that are just sitting around somewhere, as does some Wal-Mart, a GameStop, etc. Point is, it's gonna get rare very quickly, and very soon.
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#9 Xaero_Gravity
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Well then, time to find me a copy of X-Men: Destiny.
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#10 senses_fail_06
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Silicon Knights games are finally going to where they belong: the trash.
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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]This would suck if they actually made good gamesVatusus

Have you played Eternal Darkness? Something tells me you didnt...

I did and it wasn't that great.
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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]This would suck if they actually made good gameslamprey263

Have you played Eternal Darkness? Something tells me you didnt...

I did and it wasn't that great.

I fully agree.

Bad horror game, middling action-adventure. At least the first 1/3 of it was, but I think Wolpaw's Law applies there.

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Looks like SK are about to shut the doors..

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Looks like SK are about to shut the doors..

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They would have already but they Canada bailed them out once, and Nintendo is/was a silent partner. Even when they were making MS games.
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They can't catch a break.
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#18 HarlockJC
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They can't catch a break.istreakforfood
They had this coming
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

So, if you want a copy of Too Human, get it now, because it's gonna be scarce soon.

DarkLink77
It;s only unsold copies new copies so it will not matter. It's been out of print for awhile

Well, I'm sure a place like Amazon has some unsold copies that are just sitting around somewhere, as does some Wal-Mart, a GameStop, etc. Point is, it's gonna get rare very quickly, and very soon.

Technically, once a place like GameStop, WalMart, etc buy the copy of the game.. it's sold. As in, GameStop, WalMart, etc are the rightful owners to it.
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So, where are they going to put all the copies of Too Human ? they will need a pit bigger than the one used for ET.

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#21 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] It;s only unsold copies new copies so it will not matter. It's been out of print for awhile

Well, I'm sure a place like Amazon has some unsold copies that are just sitting around somewhere, as does some Wal-Mart, a GameStop, etc. Point is, it's gonna get rare very quickly, and very soon.

Technically, once a place like GameStop, WalMart, etc buy the copy of the game.. it's sold. As in, GameStop, WalMart, etc are the rightful owners to it.

So it's just unshipped copies then?
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#22 TwistedShade
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Article didn't really explain exactly why does SK have to do this IE what was this whole suit about?

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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Well, I'm sure a place like Amazon has some unsold copies that are just sitting around somewhere, as does some Wal-Mart, a GameStop, etc. Point is, it's gonna get rare very quickly, and very soon.DarkLink77
Technically, once a place like GameStop, WalMart, etc buy the copy of the game.. it's sold. As in, GameStop, WalMart, etc are the rightful owners to it.

So it's just unshipped copies then?

I think that's why they said they have to RECALL them. As in buy the shippied copies back from retailers and destroy them, not just what (if anything) they have in their own stockpiles.

I'm not too familiar with this company, but sounds like they are toast.

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#24 WilliamRLBaker
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I personally like too human.

ill make sure to hold onto my copy.

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I've a feeling that all 5 of the remaining Silicon Knights staff will be fine, I mean they must be masters of writing grant proposals given all the money they've mooched from the Canadian government and there's always room in the working world for people like that.
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Looks like SK are about to shut the doors..

HarlockJC

They would have already but they Canada bailed them out once, and Nintendo is/was a silent partner. Even when they were making MS games.

Uh, no they weren't.

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Wait...why? what happened?

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Wait...why? what happened?

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I believe Silicon Knights took Epic to court over Unreal Engine 3 support. SK lost, and Epic trolled them by counter-suiting. Moral of the story: bite your tongue if you can. Don't be quick to blame everyone else if you're criticized for what you do.
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[QUOTE="painguy1"]

Wait...why? what happened?

FrozenLiquid

I believe Silicon Knights took Epic to court over Unreal Engine 3 support. SK lost, and Epic trolled them by counter-suiting. Moral of the story: bite your tongue if you can. Don't be quick to blame everyone else if you're criticized for what you do.

I wonder if Epic had a better army of lawyers and Dyack was actually on to something but was overruled or just Silicon Knights went apesh*t and butthurt over something without thinking about the consequences properly...

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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="painguy1"]

Wait...why? what happened?

Salt_The_Fries

I believe Silicon Knights took Epic to court over Unreal Engine 3 support. SK lost, and Epic trolled them by counter-suiting. Moral of the story: bite your tongue if you can. Don't be quick to blame everyone else if you're criticized for what you do.

I wonder if Epic had a better army of lawyers and Dyack was actually on to something but was overruled or just Silicon Knights went apesh*t and butthurt over something without thinking about the consequences properly...

If they didn't focus so much on a title for 10 years and trying to sue Epic, they wouldn't be in this mess. I don't even think Nintendo will buy them out now.

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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"] I believe Silicon Knights took Epic to court over Unreal Engine 3 support. SK lost, and Epic trolled them by counter-suiting. Moral of the story: bite your tongue if you can. Don't be quick to blame everyone else if you're criticized for what you do.FireEmblem_Man

I wonder if Epic had a better army of lawyers and Dyack was actually on to something but was overruled or just Silicon Knights went apesh*t and butthurt over something without thinking about the consequences properly...

If they didn't focus so much on a title for 10 years and trying to sue Epic, they wouldn't be in this mess. I don't even think Nintendo will buy them out now.

If they did, most of whatever positive reputation they have left goes all down to hell.
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I didn't even think ED was that good:arrow:

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

Looks like SK are about to shut the doors..

nintendoboy16

They would have already but they Canada bailed them out once, and Nintendo is/was a silent partner. Even when they were making MS games.

Uh, no they weren't.

http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=174440

They were making a Demo of Eternal Darkness 2 while making X-Men: Destiny

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you mean all these bad games will be wiped from existence? :o
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They can't catch a break.istreakforfood
It's their own fault, they tried their hand at being Apple and suing to get more money and it backfired.
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

Looks like SK are about to shut the doors..

nintendoboy16

They would have already but they Canada bailed them out once, and Nintendo is/was a silent partner. Even when they were making MS games.

Uh, no they weren't.

Yeah they are Nintendo still owns some stock in SK. That is where Harlock got that Nintendo is/was a silent partner.

SK were still allowed to make games for other systems just that Nintendo kept stock in Silicon Knights when their two game contract ended.

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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]This would suck if they actually made good gameslamprey263

Have you played Eternal Darkness? Something tells me you didnt...

I did and it wasn't that great.

Jeeze... i cant say there was a more satisfying game all of last gen... outside of kotor. Eternal darkness rocked.
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#38 EliteM0nk3y
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IF anyone is interested in what happened to SK, then you should read this article (its Kotaku, but its actually good and its long).

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[QUOTE="lamprey263"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]

Have you played Eternal Darkness? Something tells me you didnt...

TheEroica
I did and it wasn't that great.

Jeeze... i cant say there was a more satisfying game all of last gen... outside of kotor. Eternal darkness rocked.

well let's assume ED is amazing. ED is literally the only game they made that is amazing in the past decade. no, twin snakes doesn't count, because the game itself was already made, they just gave it a visual revamp. so i'd say it's more a strike of luck than a quality dev falling to mediocrity.
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="lamprey263"] I did and it wasn't that great.

Jeeze... i cant say there was a more satisfying game all of last gen... outside of kotor. Eternal darkness rocked.

well let's assume ED is amazing. ED is literally the only game they made that is amazing in the past decade. no, twin snakes doesn't count, because the game itself was already made, they just gave it a visual revamp. so i'd say it's more a strike of luck than a quality dev falling to mediocrity.

Ill agree with that...
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Epic is killing SK ! I dont support Epic anymore... No matter if it was SK s fault they dont need to do this ...
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="lamprey263"] I did and it wasn't that great.BrunoBRS
Jeeze... i cant say there was a more satisfying game all of last gen... outside of kotor. Eternal darkness rocked.

well let's assume ED is amazing. ED is literally the only game they made that is amazing in the past decade. no, twin snakes doesn't count, because the game itself was already made, they just gave it a visual revamp. so i'd say it's more a strike of luck than a quality dev falling to mediocrity.

Pretty much.

One good game no matter how good can't save a whole company whose games for the most part have been mediocre.

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Epic is killing SK ! I dont support Epic anymore... No matter if it was SK s fault they dont need to do this ...christiankhs-2

If you start a fight and consequently get the crap kicked out of you, you can't really moan that the other guy is a thug. Don't blame Epic for fighting back against a law suite from Dyack because his company made a game that sucked.

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#44 nameless12345
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Epic is killing SK ! I dont support Epic anymore... No matter if it was SK s fault they dont need to do this ...christiankhs-2

But SK and their vocal leader almost begged for the lawsuit...

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="lamprey263"] I did and it wasn't that great.

Jeeze... i cant say there was a more satisfying game all of last gen... outside of kotor. Eternal darkness rocked.

well let's assume ED is amazing. ED is literally the only game they made that is amazing in the past decade. no, twin snakes doesn't count, because the game itself was already made, they just gave it a visual revamp. so i'd say it's more a strike of luck than a quality dev falling to mediocrity.

Twin Snakes was crap anyway.
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lawl..... so much pwnage.
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="painguy1"]

Wait...why? what happened?

Salt_The_Fries

I believe Silicon Knights took Epic to court over Unreal Engine 3 support. SK lost, and Epic trolled them by counter-suiting. Moral of the story: bite your tongue if you can. Don't be quick to blame everyone else if you're criticized for what you do.

I wonder if Epic had a better army of lawyers and Dyack was actually on to something but was overruled or just Silicon Knights went apesh*t and butthurt over something without thinking about the consequences properly...

No one else had many complaints about UE3. I mean, it's the most widely used engine of the generation, so Epic must be doing great. I'm guessing it was the latter. Actually wish Epic didn't counter-sue just to show them up. SK have had a bad roll this generation, and this might just be the final nail in the coffin.
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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"] I believe Silicon Knights took Epic to court over Unreal Engine 3 support. SK lost, and Epic trolled them by counter-suiting. Moral of the story: bite your tongue if you can. Don't be quick to blame everyone else if you're criticized for what you do.FrozenLiquid

I wonder if Epic had a better army of lawyers and Dyack was actually on to something but was overruled or just Silicon Knights went apesh*t and butthurt over something without thinking about the consequences properly...

No one else had many complaints about UE3. I mean, it's the most widely used engine of the generation, so Epic must be doing great. I'm guessing it was the latter. Actually wish Epic didn't counter-sue just to show them up. SK have had a bad roll this generation, and this might just be the final nail in the coffin.

Apparently, SK currently consists of david, his wife and few other people. Pretty much a shell of a company that wants to give off the illusion of productivity, so they continue to receive government funding.
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lol i got this game any one want it ill sell it to you for 200 grand haha