[QUOTE="Another48hours"]
So another post of go get help? You're calling me crazy over a video game franchise, and you think I'm the one replacing responses with insults and is off his rocker? Seriously, do you ever take a step back and reflect over the crap you write? :lol:
Tell me since you're so smart, how would you get an indication of the game's quality rather than just using one's personal opinion and experience from playing them? Could it be via the most hardcore fansites which consist of members that actually communicate with SEGA and help develop games, video game review sites such as this one, observing sale trends? No, you say? You're hiding behind the BS of "OH YOU CAN'T POLL EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD SO YOU KNOW NOTHINGGGG!" crap. To top it all off you use the "people you know" as a way to 100% counter me completely when you're trying to imply I cannot at all gauge anything. Hmm.. who would have a better idea on the state of the franchise? The guy that plays the games, and takes the time to look around, or the nut that thinks everyone is wrong, and has a world against him attiude in a thread that no one agrees with him on such a ridiculous proposal? So hard! How have the games factually NOT improved? Explain that one to me, because I really want to know how for the last 6 years, Sonic Team has not implemented improvements with each release. Did you play them? I'm asking you, because for some reason you act as if I'm not allowed to use my opinion or refer to the bulk of others. You rather hold on to the whole "the fanbase is crazy, and so are you" schtick, because doing anything logical would only distroy your ridiculous stance.
Mega Man is not the same as Sonic, because Capcom is not chained by the leg to it. Mega Man had dips, yes, but Capcom has other massive iconic franchises like, I don't know, STREET FIGHTER, RESIDENT EVIL, etc., so that they can afford to shelve Mega Man. In a world where platformers are becoming niche, Capcom not only has options, but has the financial situation to allow them to be flexible. SEGA? Not so much. Sonic was their flagship series in their hey day, and is THE franchise you think of when you think of SEGA even now. Opa-Opa and Alex Kidd NEVER carried the kind of weight Sonic did, and today when SEGA is bleeding, the last thing they need to do is follow your ridiculous suggestion of starting anew, take a risk, and throw away sure fire sales and their identity. For someone saying I don't follow SEGA's business, or even know anything about business in general, you sure have a suggested a dumbass business crippling decision. :lol:
Here's the thing: Sonic sells, the franchise is relevant, the franchise is not going anywhere and is one of the four that will receive retail publishing, and the Sonic Team games are improving. That's all there is to it. If you think otherwise, then take your own suggestion of getting help, because arguing with a crazy **** gets boring to me after a while.
Renegade_Fury
[QUOTE="Another48hours"] So I assume based on replacing responses with insults you agree with me over almost everything I said in the last post. Great. You also once again, and I swear if anybody doesn;t see this they need to leave, said your opinion is fact because across the whole fanbased based on other peoles opinion. The fact you keep doing this indicates you need help and you aren't even denying you have this problem. Oh how is Megaman treated that much differently? A series that was Capcom number one mascot with his picture all over the place just like Sonic. A split fanbase that are full of idiots who have no idea what they want, just like Sonic, having drops in quality, just like Sonic, Milking games and still loosing money and relevancy, just like Sonic. You aren't seeing this from a business point of view, you're seeing it through your illusions. You also again, really need to stop saying the majority (implying all) the fanbase believes Sonics improving. You have no way of stating this, and you have no right to say it's a fact. For someone thinking they know the fanbase, you sure don;t know anything about the fanbase. You also have stated many times that if Sonic is releasing many games (Including DD games that take no money to release) that means he's big and relevant, implying he's still selling well although I will admit you did not directly state that although you're still wrong, especially how much you exaggerate how much relevance he still has. Also, I am not connecting things that don't go together, everyone that has a brain knows Sega as a whole company is not doing that well, although better than before, everyone knows they do not have money to throw around, except fanboys like you, so if they haven't improved much from before than what makes you think that the Sonic games are still the profit for Sega which you keep implying out the ass? Also, everyone with a brain also knows that Sega made more money off their other games then Sonic this gen with few exceptions (like Madworld which they pubed I believe.) proving that not only can you not read because you f'ed the meaning of what I was saying, but because you know nothing about the company you're a fan of. And please, it's clear to anybody that can't read you have stated at least 4 times "It's fact that Sonic games are improving because of others people opinions."You also claimed that all the fans, including the black eye fans (despite me knowing some who actually didn't buy the newer Sonic games) all factually decided, and you did say fact, that the games were improving. Because you said it was fact. Even though you mentioned you went and looked at opinions. If anything at all, it;s the fact you keep doing the above that really pretty much confirms you actually do need to get help because you don't even know what a fact is. Seriously Renegade, no one is trolling, go get some damn help.Renegade_Fury
So another post of go get help? You're calling me crazy over a video game franchise, and you think I'm the one replacing responses with insults and is off his rocker? Seriously, do you ever take a step back and reflect over the crap you write? :lol:
Tell me since you're so smart, how would you get an indication of the game's quality rather than just using one's personal opinion and experience from playing them? Could it be via the most hardcore fansites which consist of members that actually communicate with SEGA and help develop games, video game review sites such as this one, observing sale trends? No, you say? You're hiding behind the BS of "OH YOU CAN'T POLL EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD SO YOU KNOW NOTHINGGGG!" crap. To top it all off you use the "people you know" as a way to 100% counter me completely when you're trying to imply I cannot at all gauge anything. Hmm.. who would have a better idea on the state of the franchise? The guy that plays the games, and takes the time to look around, or the nut that thinks everyone is wrong, and has a world against him attiude in a thread that no one agrees with him on such a ridiculous proposal? So hard! How have the games factually NOT improved? Explain that one to me, because I really want to know how for the last 6 years, Sonic Team has not implemented improvements with each release. Did you play them? I'm asking you, because for some reason you act as if I'm not allowed to use my opinion or refer to the bulk of others. You rather hold on to the whole "the fanbase is crazy, and so are you" schtick, because doing anything logical would only distroy your ridiculous stance.
Mega Man is not the same as Sonic, because Capcom is not chained by the leg to it. Mega Man had dips, yes, but Capcom has other massive iconic franchises like, I don't know, STREET FIGHTER, RESIDENT EVIL, etc., so that they can afford to shelve Mega Man. In a world where platformers are becoming niche, Capcom not only has options, but has the financial situation to allow them to be flexible. SEGA? Not so much. Sonic was their flagship series in their hey day, and is THE franchise you think of when you think of SEGA even now. Opa-Opa and Alex Kidd NEVER carried the kind of weight Sonic did, and today when SEGA is bleeding, the last thing they need to do is follow your ridiculous suggestion of starting anew, take a risk, and throw away sure fire sales and their identity. For someone saying I don't follow SEGA's business, or even know anything about business in general, you sure have a suggested a dumbass business crippling decision. :lol:
Here's the thing: Sonic sells, the franchise is relevant, the franchise is not going anywhere and is one of the four that will receive retail publishing, and the Sonic Team games are improving. That's all there is to it. If you think otherwise, then take your own suggestion of getting help, because arguing with a crazy **** gets boring to me after a while.
Observing sale trends> You do realize Segas and Sonisc trends have been declining write? Also, once gain, you're using opinions as fact based on other peoples obinions. Again. This is the primary reason why you need help. You are also slightly changing what you said before. I am also not hiding behind polling the whole world, everyone here knows you stated "It's Fact" so many times now, and now you're claiming I am hiding behind you not polling everyone? You're the one that more than once, claimed that the people I know who did not but the new Sonic games did, and the whole generally fact amongst Sonic fans is that they all agreed on the series being improved including the ones I know. You also, again, said it was fact. You did this. Denying this is the exact reason why you are mentally OCD about Sonic. It's not freaking good , you are doing this. stop.
Another part of your first text wall is the fact you're now saying what game has not improved. Which is BS, you then go on to say in the past 6 years what Has Sonic team not improved on. Which even Sonic fans would call BS on you for, because I am sure games like 06, and the BK are always considred improvements in the community and they all came out in the last 6 years. You're not just being stupid. You also have not one person backing you up, mostly because you continue to state that the gathering of your opinions makes fact based on BS. Again. More on that later.
Regarding your Megaman wall of text, Megaman was pretty much irrelevant before platformrs became a niche this gen by the constant abuse it got at the end of the last one. Also, Sonic is not doing well while they are publishing very good games and actually own more finacially profitable series. Exactly how does Sonic have them on a chain? In a fan point of view maybe, but from every other point of view, I would use the more relevant titles right now as an Image, or at least up them to close to mascot status. It would also not be a crippling business decision. It's the same situation Accolade was in and look waht happened to them following your idea.
Your conslusion is poor as well. Sonic is selling not very well, he has lost relevancy, you changed it to saying I sad he was completely irrelevant because you need to make up your own ammo. The franchise has been decling, Sega is not making much if any profit off it when you put it next to the others with it only being profitable at all because of the number of games and re-releases which are all not doing well individually and not meeting expectations or goals at all.
But the main problem here is this, you do this over and over and over again. All the above means you need help, but the part that worries me about you the most is the fact of:
You keep saying that your opinion if fact based on opinions.
You, even now, say that Sonic games HAVE IMPROVED and have it as a fact when that's also based on opinion.
You said the fans I know (The Sonic Black Eyes Fans) factually realize the series is improving and buy the games. Even though the ones I know don't.
You said that Sonic fans and reviews factually believe the series is improving based on nothing opinions.
Also, you consider like 2 Sonic sites that are hardcore to be the majority of the fanbase as well, or implied it, and also stated some things with that were fact.
You do not know what a fact is, and I am not insulting you, I am serisouly asking you to go get help, the fact you're doing the above over and over is just being scary if yu ignore everything else. Just those by itself is reason enough to go get help, the other stuff just adds on top. Seriosuly, please go, I;m trying to be nice. I'm being serious.
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