Shigeru Miyamoto VS Hideo Kojima VS John Carmack

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#1  Edited By indzman
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Which game creator is your favourite amongst Miyamoto, Kojima and Carmack? All three are respected more or less same way as gods within gaming community :)

Personally i never played any Nintendo games so Miyamoto is out of question, never played any old school FPS games as Doom or Quake so Carmack is out of question, Fan of Metal Gear Solid and Zone of Enders very much , i'm going with Kojima san.

wbu warriors? :)

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#2 so_hai
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Miyamoto has more genres of game development under his belt than some developers have games. For me, he's the most creative in terms of making game worlds feel truly other-worldly.

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#3  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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Carmack

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#4 NyaDC
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Yu Suzuki

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#5 indzman
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@nyadc said:

Yu Suzuki

?

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#6  Edited By AnthonyAutumns
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@indzman said:

@nyadc said:

Yu Suzuki

?

A sega developer. Famous for creating Virtua Fighter and Shenmue. Here's his wiki.

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#7 Planeforger
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In terms of influence on the industry? It's between Miyamoto and Carmack.

In terms of pioneering genres? It's probably Miyamoto.

In terms of making excellent games? The numbers favour Miyamoto as well.

In terms of pioneering technology? Carmack gets my vote.

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#8  Edited By indzman
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@anthonyautumns said:

@indzman said:

@nyadc said:

Yu Suzuki

?

A sega developer. Famous for creating Virtua Fighter and Shenmue. Here's his wiki.

Thanks:)

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@nyadc said:

Yu Suzuki

Maybe second to Miyamoto.

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#11 quatoe
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@so_hai: So much yes.

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#12 jg4xchamp
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Miyamoto then Kojima. Carmack is a programmer, the glory days of Id are built on John Romero, Tom Hall, American McGee, etc.

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Miyamoto. There is no room for discussion.

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Yu Suzuki

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Miyamoto.

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#16 Elaisse
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Shiggy has always been pretty good where as carmack has is beginning greatness then rest of his time in the industry was crap.

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#17 inggrish
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Hidetaka Miyazaki. No one comes close. Maybe Kazunori Yamauchi would be my second choice.

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#18  Edited By deactivated-597794cd74015
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None of these people have ever created a game. They have either designed, written or made the technology for the games made by the blood and sweat of the dev teams they are a part of.

But going by what I think you mean, I would have to choose Warren Spector. His work on Ultima Underworld, Thief and Deus Ex has definitely left a mark on modern games.

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#19 BobRossPerm
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Miyamoto is essentially the John Lennon of gaming.

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#20 MirkoS77
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Miyamoto made Pikmin. Dude was out in his garden and saw insects carrying shit around. Made one of the best games out of it. Pikmin 3. I don't care for Mario or Zelda, but he's got my respect for Pikmin.

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#21 osan0
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carmack is more an a tech guru than a game designer. his contributions to the industry have been massive of course (some of his tech allowed for new game design possibilities) but its a different area of games development. i wouldnt rate him as a game designer.

kojima has interesting ideas but his games are way too focused on story. its story driven game design which is the wrong way around.

so miyamoto. his attention to detail is second to none. we hear other developers going on about how the increased horsepower allows for more realistic simulations, better graphics and blah de blah. miyamoto? hes more interested in how the increased horsepower can effect marios jump. thats a games designer.

there are 3 designers i would rate very highly in the industry: miyamoto, michael ancel (at his best hsi games can give nintendos best a run for their money...sadly very quiet now though :( ) and warren spector (also sadly very quiet now but he did design the best game ever made with some of the most well thought out game design and planning. not as strong as the other 2 in attention to detail but very very clever).

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#22 Blabadon
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@faizanhd: lolwat Miyamoto helped create and did create plenty of shit.

As it is, Miyamoto is the right answer among the three.

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#23  Edited By AzatiS
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Story telling and directing = Hideo Kojima

Gameplay and Design evolution on some genres = Miyamoto

Father of technological evolution/revolution with Wolf 3D that defined how FPS will play since then = Carmack

Choose what you think is more advanced and hard to do and you have the "best" .

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Miyamoto.

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#25 Nengo_Flow
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Kojima is God

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Miyamoto's games have defined a significant chunk of who I am, so yeah.

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#27 Legend002
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Masahiro Sakurai > God > Kojima > Miyamoto >>>>>>>>>>> Carmack

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#28 sHaDyCuBe321
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Miyamoto. Period.

How can there be any question about this?

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#29 Link3301
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Why are we putting Carmack on this list. He's a tech guy. He doesn't really make games as much as he makes the tech behind them. All of Id's great games an IPs were primarily designed and created by John Romero.

Out of the two actual game creators I would have to say Miyamoto. As great as Metal Gear is, Miyamoto hasn't made many standout games beyond that series. I think he's only other heavily praised game besides the Metal Gear games is Snatcher. Policenauts and Zone of the Enders also had positive reception, but not on the level of Metal Gear. Miyamoto was behind many great games and IPs many of which are cited in greatest of all time lists. Seriously if you are making a top 10 greatest games of all time list and don't list a single Miyamoto game or at least a game based that is part of one of the IPs he created, you either have crap taste in games or are just a filthy casual.

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All has been's...

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#32  Edited By Jag85
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Yu Suzuki.

While he's a mostly forgotten name today, because of Sega's downfall, Suzuki's impact on the game industry is huge, easily rivalling, or arguably surpassing, Shigeru Miyamoto, and definitely more important than Carmack and Kojima.

Suzuki is pretty much the grandaddy of 3D gaming. He was largely responsible for the game industry's shift from 2D to 3D, first with pseudo-3D arcade hits like Hang-On (1985), Space Harrier (1985), OutRun (1986) and After Burner (1987), then with polygonal 3D arcade hits like Virtua Racing (1992), Virtua Fighter (1993), Daytona USA (1993), Virtua Cop (1994), etc.

He introduced new concepts, techniques and technologies to gaming, like sprite/texture/background scaling graphics & digitized drum sampling audio with Hang-On, as well as sloping hills, non-linear branching paths and changeable music with OutRun, sprite/texture/background rotation with After Burner, fully rotating 3D camera system (with changeable camera angles & action replays) with Virtua Racing, polygonal 3D human characters with Virtua Racing & Virtua Fighter, 3D character physics with Virtua Fighter, 3D lighting & anti-aliasing with Virtua Racing & Daytona USA, filtered texture-mapping & bilinear/trilinear filtering with Daytona USA, textured 3D characters & motion-capture animation with Virtua Fighter 2 (1994), position-dependent hit reactions & headshots with Virtua Cop, the MSAA, motion blur, facial animations and specular highlighting/reflection/shading of Virtua Fighter 3 (1996), the interactive open-world environments with real-time weather simulation and fully-voiced NPCs with independent AI schedules in Shenmue (1999), etc.

He pioneered immersive new ways of controlling and experiencing games, introducing full-body motion controls with Hang-On (over 2 decades before the Wii), true analog fight-stick controls (360-degree movement & measuring degree of push) in a rotating hydraulic arcade cabinet with Space Harrier, dual-analog controls (flight-stick & throttle) with After Burner II (1987), a 360-degree rotating gyroscope-like arcade cabinet with G-LOC (1990), etc..

He pioneered new genres, like arcade-style street racing with OutRun, kart racing with Power Drift (1988), 3D fighting games with Virtua Fighter, 3D light-gun shooters with Virtua Cop, 3D urban open-world games with Shenmue (1999), etc.

He inspired a whole generation of game designers/programmers/engineers, from pseudo-3D techniques like Mode 7 on SNES and FPS ray-casting on PC, to Virtua Fighter's impact on Sony's 3D hardware design for the original PlayStation and Lara Croft's 3D character design in Tomb Raider, to Virtua Cop's impact on GoldenEye's gameplay, aiming system and console FPS template, to the motion controls of DDR and the Wii, etc.

But not everything he did had a positive influence. He's the guy who revived, modernized and popularized QTE's with Shenmue. And that's unfortunately what many remember Shenmue for, despite breakthroughs like fully interactive 3D open-world environments (which it before, and better than, GTA3), fully-voiced NPCs, independent NPC AI schedules, real-time weather simulation, etc. But after the commercial failure of Shenmue II (2001), Sega demoted him and the legend eventually faded away into obscurity.

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#33 Seabas989
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Miyamoto and I also think Yu Suzuki should be mentioned with the all time greats.

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#34 AM-Gamer
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Carmack hasn't done anything relevant in years he doesn't belong anywhere near those two.

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#35 Kashiwaba
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Shigeru then Kojima the carmack did more harm than good for the industry.

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#36 funsohng
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Miyamoto is the D.W.Griffith, Buster Keaton, Billy Wilder and Howard Hawks of gaming combined

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#37 deactivated-597794cd74015
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@Blabadon said:

@faizanhd: lolwat Miyamoto helped create and did create plenty of shit.

As it is, Miyamoto is the right answer among the three.

He has never done anything alone. Ever.

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#38 MirkoS77
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@Jag85: amazing post and well backed up. Definitely deserves to be in the running if anyone does.

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#39 Hatiko
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Miyamoto. I mean, why are Kojima and Carmack up there with him? You should of put other people up there so there could be some real competition.

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#40  Edited By Boddicker
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Carmack makes 1-2 games a decade it seems like now.

Kojima...............**** him and his overly convoluted MGS franchise.

I gotta go with Miyamoto, though it's embarrassing watching him play his own titles. Seriously, you suck at simple platformers Miyamato.

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#41 Mr_Huggles_dog
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The father of platformers vs the father of stealth soap opera games vs the father of the FPS.

I'll just settle this by saying....I have 3 dads.

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#42 Thunderdrone
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@_Matt_ said:

Hidetaka Miyazaki. No one comes close.

Oh please. Once the From honeymoon period is over you people will look back and laugh at your own hyperbole.

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#43 inggrish
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@Thunderdrone: honeymoon period of how long? 6 years?

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#44  Edited By Thunderdrone
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@_Matt_ said:

@Thunderdrone: honeymoon period of how long? 6 years?

Yes. There have been longer.

Let the man do more before putting him on a pedestal above industry veterans because of 3 games from one game series.

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#45 inggrish
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@Thunderdrone: 3 consistently high scoring games receiving critical acclaim, even all 3 scoring 9 or above here at Gamespot. How long he has been doing it doesn't matter to me, not when some of these veterans get stagnant.

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#46  Edited By princeofshapeir
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Miyamoto > Kojima > Carmack, in terms of visions for games. As said above, Carmack's a genius programmer that was more involved on the technology side of id's games. It's not fair to compare him to industry figureheads like Miyamoto and Kojima.

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#47  Edited By SolidTy
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  1. Miyamoto
  2. Kojima
  3. -----
  4. -----
  5. -----
  6. Carmack
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#48 starwolf474
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Nobody can even come close to comparing to Miyamoto.

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#49 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@SolidTy said:
  1. Miyamoto
  2. Kojima
  3. -----
  4. -----
  5. -----
  6. Carmack

Kojima is number two? You've got empty numbers so I'm assuming this is more of a complete top 6 for you. Personally I'd probably put Yu Suzuki at the two spot.....or someone from Namco/Atari.

Also, I'm not so sure Kojima is ahead of Carmack. Carmack is responsible for so much. He was a major player in really bringing pc gaming to a more recognized state.

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#50 GrayF0X786
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it's an insult to Kojima to put those other two guys up with him.