**** SCEE press release NEW SKU details ****

http://www.scee.presscentre.com/Content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=4434&NewsAreaID=2

Only thing that was fuzzy .......... NO ps2 b/c.

• wifi
• hdmi
• sixaxis
• 40 gig
• no card readers
• 2 usb ports instead of 4
• no ps2 b/c

• Looks like it has trim :)
• I didn't see an ethernet cable listed

"The new model is no longer backwards compatible with PlayStation®2 titles, reflecting both the reduced emphasis placed on this feature amongst later purchasers of PS3, as well as the availability of a more extensive line-up of PS3 specific titles (a total of 65 titles across all genres by Christmas). "

I don't understand. Why get rid of even Software Emulation?

who cares about b/c anyways, a lot of people already own a ps2, and if you don't there really cheap to buy.Magical_Guy

http://www.scee.presscentre.com/Content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=4434&NewsAreaID=2

Only thing that was fuzzy .......... NO ps2 b/c.

• wifi
• hdmi
• 40 gig
• no card readers
• 2 usb ports instead of 4
• no ps2 b/c

Nike_Air

they removed the b/c... which is really bad news as this feature is what sold the ps2 for the first year....

who cares about b/c anyways, a lot of people already own a ps2, and if you don't there really cheap to buy.Magical_Guy

Europe never got the hardware b/c that other regions did, and now no b/c at all? Harsh. Any word on a price in the UK?

"The new model is no longer backwards compatible with PlayStation®2 titles, reflecting both the reduced emphasis placed on this feature amongst later purchasers of PS3, as well as the availability of a more extensive line-up of PS3 specific titles (a total of 65 titles across all genres by Christmas). "

I don't understand. Why get rid of even Software Emulation?

Jandurin

no ps2 b/cNike_Air

I love seeing the PS3 price drop, but I need BC for games. Sure everyone has a PS2, but nobody wants to keep two systems connected. Why no emulation? How could they just skip the feature?

If sony can get the PS3 down to 400$ here in the US, then maybe the 360 won't sweep the holiday console sales.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

"The new model is no longer backwards compatible with PlayStation®2 titles, reflecting both the reduced emphasis placed on this feature amongst later purchasers of PS3, as well as the availability of a more extensive line-up of PS3 specific titles (a total of 65 titles across all genres by Christmas). "

I don't understand. Why get rid of even Software Emulation?

mattyomo99

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]no ps2 b/cHoffgod

who cares about b/c anyways, a lot of people already own a ps2, and if you don't there really cheap to buy.Magical_Guy

I care. When I bought the PS2, I sold my PS1 because I don't like having two console sitting around taking up space when I can play all games on one. To me, BC is a big feature as I continue to play or replay my old games over time but don't always want the old console sitting around.

While it isn't a HUGE deal, I am quite disappointed that if I want a PS3 I'm not going to get BC any more (I'm not buying the expensive model).

If you want to go cheap you have to sacrifice some things.

Software emulation most likelyRurouniSaiyajin

If you want to go cheap you have to sacrifice some things.

dmaximum

Yep, lots of people do that when it comes to flying commercially. They sacrifice service and meals for cheap air fares.

[QUOTE="mattyomo99"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

"The new model is no longer backwards compatible with PlayStation®2 titles, reflecting both the reduced emphasis placed on this feature amongst later purchasers of PS3, as well as the availability of a more extensive line-up of PS3 specific titles (a total of 65 titles across all genres by Christmas). "

I don't understand. Why get rid of even Software Emulation?

Jandurin

Actually it costs Sony man hours.

SERIOUSLY WTF?!?!!?!? I saved out money to buy this new cheaper PS3... but now no B/C?!?!? Does that include Ps1 too?VideoGameGuy

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]no ps2 b/cNike_Air

[QUOTE="Magical_Guy"]who cares about b/c anyways, a lot of people already own a ps2, and if you don't there really cheap to buy.ramulux

Yeah it will be funny to see cows try to pretend that thy don't want B/C.

My money is on Sony releasing B/C in an update in the future. I don't understand why they don't just use emulation. They already have with the past PS3's.

No BC...

Pretty goddamn lame.
I play my PS1 titles all the time and I don't havea PS1 anymore.DireToad

If you want to go cheap you have to sacrifice some things.

dmaximum

That would make a lot of sense if b/c cost a lot of money, but it's software emulation so it doesn't. Removing it blows.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

"The new model is no longer backwards compatible with PlayStation®2 titles, reflecting both the reduced emphasis placed on this feature amongst later purchasers of PS3, as well as the availability of a more extensive line-up of PS3 specific titles (a total of 65 titles across all genres by Christmas). "

I don't understand. Why get rid of even Software Emulation?

mattyomo99

No it doesn't, It's just a software module for the Ps3OS. They can even distribute it with a firmware update.

To remove Software BC they would have to actively disable it in the OS(release a new firmware version). That would cost money.

Actually it costs Sony man hours.7thSIN

Edit: And the Europe EE-less 60GB version.

ya it was totally me going around making 50 accounts and bashing x360's backwards compatibilities. I think b/c is completly useless and a waste of time.

[QUOTE="Magical_Guy"]who cares about b/c anyways, a lot of people already own a ps2, and if you don't there really cheap to buy.ramulux

I never bought a PS2 and I was going to purchase the PS3 to play some great PS2 games I missed out on...

NOT ANYMORE it seems.

[QUOTE="7thSIN"]Actually it costs Sony man hours.Jandurin

Edit: And the Europe EE-less 60GB version.

[QUOTE="dmaximum"]

If you want to go cheap you have to sacrifice some things.

deviates1080

That would make a lot of sense if b/c cost a lot of money, but it's software emulation so it doesn't. Removing it blows.

must agree. why remove software emulation? was it dependent upon some other chips we don't know about?

[QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]Software emulation most likelyDreams-Visions

No. I'malmost certainit's software emulation because this is pretty much exactly what they said when they introduced the 80GB in N/A. Even the explanation for the actis pretty much word for word of what they said.

[QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]Software emulation most likelyDreams-Visions

I guess they're trying to justify the cost of the more expensive machine by removing stuff that costs them nothing?

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]no ps2 b/cHoffgod

ya it was totally me going around making 50 accounts and bashing x360's backwards compatibilities. I think b/c is completly useless and a waste of time. Magical_Guy

As such, the 360 and Wii have a much greater value to me due to Backwards Compatibility.

[QUOTE="Magical_Guy"]who cares about b/c anyways, a lot of people already own a ps2, and if you don't there really cheap to buy.ramulux

same with the rumblez.

[QUOTE="deviates1080"][QUOTE="dmaximum"]

If you want to go cheap you have to sacrifice some things.

Dreams-Visions

That would make a lot of sense if b/c cost a lot of money, but it's software emulation so it doesn't. Removing it blows.

must agree. why remove software emulation? was it dependent upon some other chips we don't know about?

I would assume that the no bc means that it will be software emulation. The new ps3 will still have firmware updates, and the software emulation is done through firmware.Dilrod

I thought all Europe ever got was software emulated b/c. If that's right then I doub the SCEE mean they're going to use software emulated b/c rather than the hardware version that Europe never got.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]Software emulation most likelyJandurin

I guess they're trying to justify the cost of the more expensive machine by removing stuff that costs them nothing?

We don't know for sure if it costs them nothing. None of us are engineers, so there must have been something in the PS3 that made that software emulation possible. If it costs them nothing to put it in, then they would have done it, but the fact that it's gone completely tells me that something was dependent on hardware and Sony didn't want to include it in order to drive costs down.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]Software emulation most likelyJandurin

I guess they're trying to justify the cost of the more expensive machine by removing stuff that costs them nothing?

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]Software emulation most likelyRurouniSaiyajin

No. I'malmost certainit's software emulation because this is pretty much exactly what they said when they introduced the 80GB in N/A. Even the explanation for the actis pretty much word for word of what they said.

Bro...this is pretty damn clear, IMO:

The new model is no longer backwards compatible with PlayStation®2 titles, reflecting both the reduced emphasis placed on this feature amongst later purchasers of PS3, as well as the availability of a more extensive line-up of PS3 specific titles (a total of 65 titles across all genres by Christmas).SCEE

It's not there. seems pretty simple to me.

We don't know for sure if it costs them nothing.thinicer

Still, for me, no b/c makes it unworthy.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="deviates1080"][QUOTE="dmaximum"]

If you want to go cheap you have to sacrifice some things.

dmaximum

That would make a lot of sense if b/c cost a lot of money, but it's software emulation so it doesn't. Removing it blows.

must agree. why remove software emulation? was it dependent upon some other chips we don't know about?

I guess Cows now have to abandon knocking the 360's BC? At least every 360 can do it.

Regardless, interesting day.

[QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]Software emulation most likelyDreams-Visions

No. I'malmost certainit's software emulation because this is pretty much exactly what they said when they introduced the 80GB in N/A. Even the explanation for the actis pretty much word for word of what they said.

Bro...this is pretty damn clear, IMO:

The new model is no longer backwards compatible with PlayStation®2 titles, reflecting both the reduced emphasis placed on this feature amongst later purchasers of PS3, as well as the availability of a more extensive line-up of PS3 specific titles (a total of 65 titles across all genres by Christmas).SCEE

It's not there. seems pretty simple to me.

Yeah but that's pretty much what theysaid last time and I even remember everyone getting all mad about it here too until Sony explained themselves further.

But whatever, going to have to wait for further comment on this one I guess.