Rumor: PCSX2 on PS4

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#1 Posted by Gue1 (11248 posts) -

not really... But Eurogamer says that Sony MIGHT be working on a similar approach according to their "unnamed sources". The PS4 would emulate PS1 and PS2 games natively through software with enhancements like on the PCSX2.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-ps1-ps2-games-heading-to-ps4

Wouldn't this be cool? I mean, to those still interested on playing old games.

#2 Posted by good_sk8er7 (4322 posts) -

That would be pretty awesome.

There's still lots of games I've been meaning to go back and play.

#3 Edited by Wasdie (50592 posts) -

There is really nothing stopping Sony from making a Software Emulator for PS1 and PS2 games on the PS4 tech wise. It's a pure business decision.

PS3 emulation won't happen I'm afraid. Not any time soon at least.

#4 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (6250 posts) -

Better let my existing purchases move forward.

#5 Posted by DrRockso87 (2548 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

There is really nothing stopping Sony from making a Software Emulator for PS1 and PS2 games on the PS4 tech wise. It's a pure business decision.

PS3 emulation won't happen I'm afraid. Not any time soon at least.

I could live with no PS3 emulation on PS4 since I still have my PS3 and don't plan on selling it but I still own plenty of PS2 games that aren't compatible on my PS3 slim (most of them weren't made into HD remakes either). Would be fine with this news since I wouldn't have to hook up my PS2 anymore to play them.

But with PlayStation Now, I wonder if Sony would allow software emulation.

#6 Edited by Netret0120 (2870 posts) -

As long as people keep buying HD remasters then i doubt this will happen.

Sony could have put BC on the PS4 easily but why when you can re-sell old games aand make more money off of them? I see the business sense in it.

#7 Edited by Blabadon (28263 posts) -

This just makes me want to fix my BC PS3 60 GB.

#8 Posted by Floppy_Jim (25834 posts) -

This would be a nice perk. But I just lack the time or inclination to replay old games.

#9 Posted by jman1553 (1320 posts) -

@Netret0120: Do you understand how difficult it would be to put BC on the PS4? The console would be probably twice as big, be twice the price, and have problems just like the original PS3 did

#10 Posted by Jak-25 (2490 posts) -

This would make me really happy! :)

#11 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (16059 posts) -

That would be very smart on Sony's part. Emulation has really taken off in the last 6 years. If it's anything like PCSX2 they could run at much higher resolutions as well.

#12 Posted by lostrib (42182 posts) -

Do the PS1 and PS2 emulators work well?

#13 Posted by bbkkristian (14967 posts) -

Thank gawd, Downloads >>>>>>>>>>>> Streams.

#14 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28483 posts) -

@lostrib said:

Do the PS1 and PS2 emulators work well?

yes

#15 Posted by glez13 (9016 posts) -

@lostrib said:

Do the PS1 and PS2 emulators work well?

For the vast majority, yes. Only a few games will have some graphical details here and there and a few don't even work totally or partially.

#16 Edited by seanmcloughlin (38219 posts) -

That would be a very smart move by them.

But would it come with all the bells and whistles of the PC version where I can increase the resolution and AA to crazy lengths and make the games look 10 times better than the originals?

#17 Edited by seanmcloughlin (38219 posts) -
@lostrib said:

Do the PS1 and PS2 emulators work well?

Surprisingly well. ePSXe and PCSX2 have always run really smooth for me. Audio is one of the bigger issues with them though as they can spaz out but for the most part it's smooth sailing

#18 Posted by Jak-25 (2490 posts) -

@bbkkristian: Agreed! I would much rather be able to play a game locally.

#19 Posted by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -

they should do it.

#20 Posted by Lucianu (9557 posts) -
@seanmcloughlin said:

That would be a very smart move by them.

But would it come with all the bells and whistles of the PC version where I can increase the resolution and AA to crazy lengths and make the games look 10 times better than the originals?

No way in hell, tho it would be awesome.

#21 Posted by zeeshanhaider (2859 posts) -

Looks like consoles again needs the help from the PC community.

#22 Edited by APiranhaAteMyVa (2990 posts) -

I only really want BC at the start of the gen, and it is only for the last gen console. That way I can upgrade and still play games I may not have played. The PS1 and PS2 I have pretty much played all I wanted to play, still if they gave the option then it is nothing to complain about. More functionality/options>no options

#23 Edited by uninspiredcup (12374 posts) -

The playstation 1/2 have no note worthy games worth playing. A admirable if pointless, endeavor.

#24 Posted by bbkkristian (14967 posts) -

@Jak-25: I'm glad I'm not the only one.

If they put Xenosaga on the list, I will instantly buy a PS4.

#25 Edited by stereointegrity (10831 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

The playstation 1/2 have no note worthy games worth playing. A admirable if pointless, endeavor.

I like the way you troll

#26 Edited by HaloinventedFPS (4736 posts) -

Higher res breaks a lot of games, Sony's standards are high enough to not allow inaccurate emulation

Besides, making an Emulator is hard & PS4's CPU is a joke, it will emulate a handful of games like PS3

#27 Edited by Netherscourge (16354 posts) -

Sweet jesus.

If this is true, and it upscales all the games to 1080p without any of that ugly stretching nonsense, I'll be on ebay hunting down some old PSX/PS2 games!

I still have Castlevania Symphony of the Night and all my old-school Resident Evil game discs laying around somewhere!

This is awesome news if true.

#28 Posted by _Matt_ (9357 posts) -

If this ends up true, that will be AMAZING.

#29 Edited by Netherscourge (16354 posts) -

The PS4 could probably emulate 4 or 5 PS2 games at the same time and have enough RAM leftover to record them all to the HDD and stream them all out to Twitch and allow you to jump into and out of each game and the Dashboard while doing all the other PSN stuff in the background.

If they add PS4 GPU hardware support to the emulator to take the load off the software/CPU (which is almost a guarantee) then, the PS1 and PS2 will be reborn in 1080p HD with possibly some new visual effects!

But, I'm probably asking for too much lol.

#30 Posted by Netherscourge (16354 posts) -

Just found a comparison shot on Neogaf:

#31 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (16059 posts) -

@Netherscourge said:

Just found a comparison shot on Neogaf:

Lol, xbones on the left. :P

#32 Posted by kingjazziephiz (2460 posts) -

@uninspiredcup: lol you're stupid

#33 Edited by PSdual_wielder (10646 posts) -

@DrRockso87 said:

@Wasdie said:

There is really nothing stopping Sony from making a Software Emulator for PS1 and PS2 games on the PS4 tech wise. It's a pure business decision.

PS3 emulation won't happen I'm afraid. Not any time soon at least.

I could live with no PS3 emulation on PS4 since I still have my PS3 and don't plan on selling it but I still own plenty of PS2 games that aren't compatible on my PS3 slim (most of them weren't made into HD remakes either). Would be fine with this news since I wouldn't have to hook up my PS2 anymore to play them.

But with PlayStation Now, I wonder if Sony would allow software emulation.

I recall a comment somewhere saying you need hardware exponentially more powerful than the system you want to emulate in order for it to work. PS4 is powerful, but the scaling up in hardware is nowhere near as higher as when the ps2 went up to the ps3 and so forth, so that's an issue.

It's a wonderful thing that sony is actually attempting to put emulation on the ps4. One could say all the potential for piracy and no moneyz or whatever regarding the nature of emulators, but the fact is there was some brilliant work done in that area which caused pcsx2 to be what it is today, smart move on sony's part to leverage that kind of knowledge.

#34 Posted by navyguy21 (13060 posts) -

I really really hope this is true.

There were a TON of games that i didnt get to play on PS2 that i would love to play. Like Rogue Galaxy. I really want to see those environments in HD.

#35 Edited by Opus_Rea-333 (1123 posts) -

Best news for PS4 IMO. the PS2 games at 1080p with emu enhacements looks great almost like PS3 games.

#36 Edited by StrongDeadlift (5209 posts) -

I remember when Sony developed a working PS2 software emulator for the PS3.

And then NEVER released it, because they realized that people would stop buying PS2s.

Also, didnt the Jak collection (and all the other PS2 collections) run using Sony's cell processor PS2 emulator?

#37 Edited by Basinboy (11388 posts) -

Emulation, Cloud streaming, I don't care...provide trophy support and I'm there

So many amazing games from back in the day that I'd happily re-experience. All that's missing is the motivation.

#38 Edited by Zidaneski (8485 posts) -

PS2 emulation is what I need since PS1 games already work on PS3, can't seem to find my power cord to my PS2 slim. I need one of those weird yellow circular power cords not the kind that all consoles have these days.

#39 Posted by StrongBlackVine (9468 posts) -

@StrongDeadlift said:

I remember when Sony developed a working PS2 software emulator for the PS3.

And then NEVER released it, because they realized that people would stop buying PS2s.

Also, didnt the Jak collection (and all the other PS2 collections) run using Sony's cell processor PS2 emulator?

I don't think Sony is concerned with people buying PS2s now so it is moot argument. They could make a TON of money selling PS1/PS2 game for cheap on PSN though through PS4 though...I would want trophy support as well.

#41 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (17329 posts) -

I still have my PS2. But, that's cool. I don't mind seeing a Sony version of the Wii's Virtual Console. I still use the latter for classics like Wave Race 64.

#42 Edited by KHAndAnime (14622 posts) -

@Lucianu said:
@seanmcloughlin said:

That would be a very smart move by them.

But would it come with all the bells and whistles of the PC version where I can increase the resolution and AA to crazy lengths and make the games look 10 times better than the originals?

No way in hell, tho it would be awesome.

No way in hell? It's rumored they're already working on making it happen, with the option to increase game resolution to 1080P. Says right in the article...

Our information suggests that the same internal emulator strategy is planned for PlayStation 4, and we understand that Sony is actively pursuing the ability for older titles to run without the blurry upscaling seen on PS3, suggesting that native HD resolutions are being targeted. Assuming this intention carries through to final code, we'll be seeing an effect similar to the resolution scaling seen on unofficial PC emulation of Sony's consoles, as well as a great many of the "HD remasters" we saw on PS3 - where original assets were rendered at a higher resolution, often without any actual remastering at all.

#43 Edited by Lucianu (9557 posts) -

@KHAndAnime said:

No way in hell? It's rumored they're already working on making it happen, with the option to increase game resolution to 1080P. Says right in the article...

Our information suggests that the same internal emulator strategy is planned for PlayStation 4, and we understand that Sony is actively pursuing the ability for older titles to run without the blurry upscaling seen on PS3, suggesting that native HD resolutions are being targeted. Assuming this intention carries through to final code, we'll be seeing an effect similar to the resolution scaling seen on unofficial PC emulation of Sony's consoles, as well as a great many of the "HD remasters" we saw on PS3 - where original assets were rendered at a higher resolution, often without any actual remastering at all.

Maybe i'm too tired right now, but i don't think it specifies whether it's ps1 or ps2 games.

But anyway, wen i wrote that my thought was on the PS1, mainly that openGL renderer for epsxe, that not only can render a game at a high resolution, but also add filters over it. Chrono Cross looks like a PS2 game with the right config.