Resolution obsession, yet neither can do 1080p...

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#51 Posted by cainetao11 (17016 posts) -

@TwistedShade: yeah, can't argue with any of you. Its a joke that we console gamers argue over second rate specs.

#52 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (13561 posts) -

@TwistedShade: yeah, can't argue with any of you. Its a joke that we console gamers argue over second rate specs.

Just stand further back from the screen.

#53 Edited by ermacness (7022 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

@Bigboi500 said:

@MBirdy88 said:

@EZs said:

@Heil68 said:

Both have games that are in 1080.

True therefore this thread is invalid.

TC is misinformed.

most of the lower end games are, i never ;laimed otherwise... any game that TRIES to be a powerhouse fails to do so in one way or antoher.

anpother gen of you morons haveing low standards.... and then claiming invalid when one or 2 exceptions occur.

meanwhile.... ive had 1080p as a standard for nearly 10 years

"i never claimed otherwise" "neither can do 1080p" You're the only moron here, with poor writing standards to boot.

im using an ancient slow laptop while lying on my back... oh no.... someone who's too dense to see that this is a reactionary topic based on the other threads popping up and assumes LITERALLY no game is 1080p on my behalf... despite being here all the time to see when you morons have an orgasm over a game that does 1080p.

fact is, the games currently being discussed can't do 1080p. the only recent exception is MGSV ... which doesn't even look next gen.

so yea.... even after i post clearing up what i meant you make this post... but whatever. my point still stands.. cherry picking very rare exceptions just like last gen.

Why? Is it because MGSV doesn't support your theory?

#54 Posted by emgesp (2109 posts) -

@Dire_Weasel said:

Fact check: So far the only 900p Playstation 4 game is Battlefield 4. Everything else that's been released is 1080p.

There are rumors that the Witcher 3 might be 900p, and if true, that would be the second Playstation 4 game that runs at sub-1080p.

I'm glad I could clear that up for you, OP.

Fact check, like no ps4 games are 60fps. But when an overpriced version of tomb raider came out.. apparently anything less than 60fps is unacceptable. Ignoring the fact tomb raider is more like 45fps during actual gameplay. Shhh cows, goto sleep.

Resogun is 60fps 1080p. 99.99% of PS4 games are native 1080p, so what are you trying to prove?

#55 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4523 posts) -
@emgesp said:

@BeardMaster said:

@Dire_Weasel said:

Fact check: So far the only 900p Playstation 4 game is Battlefield 4. Everything else that's been released is 1080p.

There are rumors that the Witcher 3 might be 900p, and if true, that would be the second Playstation 4 game that runs at sub-1080p.

I'm glad I could clear that up for you, OP.

Fact check, like no ps4 games are 60fps. But when an overpriced version of tomb raider came out.. apparently anything less than 60fps is unacceptable. Ignoring the fact tomb raider is more like 45fps during actual gameplay. Shhh cows, goto sleep.

Resogun is 60fps 1080p. 99.99% of PS4 games are native 1080p, so what are you trying to prove?

ps4 doesn't have 10000 games.

#56 Posted by ermacness (7022 posts) -

@emgesp said:

@BeardMaster said:

@Dire_Weasel said:

Fact check: So far the only 900p Playstation 4 game is Battlefield 4. Everything else that's been released is 1080p.

There are rumors that the Witcher 3 might be 900p, and if true, that would be the second Playstation 4 game that runs at sub-1080p.

I'm glad I could clear that up for you, OP.

Fact check, like no ps4 games are 60fps. But when an overpriced version of tomb raider came out.. apparently anything less than 60fps is unacceptable. Ignoring the fact tomb raider is more like 45fps during actual gameplay. Shhh cows, goto sleep.

Resogun is 60fps 1080p. 99.99% of PS4 games are native 1080p, so what are you trying to prove?

ps4 doesn't have 10000 games.

Do you even function???!?!!!

#57 Edited by CrownKingArthur (4523 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:
@emgesp said:

@BeardMaster said:

@Dire_Weasel said:

Fact check: So far the only 900p Playstation 4 game is Battlefield 4. Everything else that's been released is 1080p.

There are rumors that the Witcher 3 might be 900p, and if true, that would be the second Playstation 4 game that runs at sub-1080p.

I'm glad I could clear that up for you, OP.

Fact check, like no ps4 games are 60fps. But when an overpriced version of tomb raider came out.. apparently anything less than 60fps is unacceptable. Ignoring the fact tomb raider is more like 45fps during actual gameplay. Shhh cows, goto sleep.

Resogun is 60fps 1080p. 99.99% of PS4 games are native 1080p, so what are you trying to prove?

ps4 doesn't have 10000 games.

Do you even function???!?!!!

Yes. I do.

for 99.99% of PS4 games to be native 1080P, and assuming that there was only one game that failed to achieve full 1080P:

Then what is the minimum number of games required for the 99.99% statistic to hold true?

The answer is 10000.

I'm not the one saying silly things here!

#58 Posted by Alcapello (825 posts) -

Best bet would be to hook up a PS4 to your xbox 1 and buy the discs labeled PS4 from now on.

#59 Posted by cainetao11 (17016 posts) -
#60 Posted by MK-Professor (3756 posts) -
@emgesp said:

@BeardMaster said:

@Dire_Weasel said:

Fact check: So far the only 900p Playstation 4 game is Battlefield 4. Everything else that's been released is 1080p.

There are rumors that the Witcher 3 might be 900p, and if true, that would be the second Playstation 4 game that runs at sub-1080p.

I'm glad I could clear that up for you, OP.

Fact check, like no ps4 games are 60fps. But when an overpriced version of tomb raider came out.. apparently anything less than 60fps is unacceptable. Ignoring the fact tomb raider is more like 45fps during actual gameplay. Shhh cows, goto sleep.

Resogun is 60fps 1080p. 99.99% of PS4 games are native 1080p, so what are you trying to prove?

ps4 doesn't have 10000 games.

so true,

ps4 right now have like 10 games(including some sport games lol), and we already know that bf4 is 900p, Witcher 3 is 900p, Order-1886 is 800p etc

#61 Posted by PAL360 (26757 posts) -

Every game on PS4 (except BF4) runs native 1080p, TC.

#62 Edited by kalipekona (2297 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

So much for these new consoles, cows spamming threads about 720p vs 900p...

900p... ladies and gentlemen.

as some sort of victory... 900p really? £350+ devices.... 900p...

"Resolution-gate" your both gated by these craptastic upgraded devices.

who are you trying to fool here?

All the cows are frauds. The past three generations we heard from them time and again how resolution and frame-rate aren't important. Now when it gives them some leverage to bash other consoles they act like those things are super important.

But a funny thing is happening. For a while Sony fanboys were under the mistaken belief that games on the PS4 would be 1080p and 60fps, but now that more and more games are being shown to only be around 30fps on PS4 they aren't talking up frame-rate quite so much.

I predict that Sony fanboys will eventually start downplaying 60fps just as they used to downplay 1080p (and as they currently downplay resolutions higher than 1080p). This will happen because there will be very few graphically demanding PS4 games that run at 60fps, and in typical cow fashion they will downplay anything their precious console doesn't have.

As a PC gamer, even though I really enjoy higher resolutions, I still feel that a smooth frame-rate is more important than having a higher resolution. Of course it depends on what resolution and frame-rate we are talking about. Put it this way, I would rather play a game at 720p and a solid 60fps than a game at 1080p that runs choppy.

#63 Posted by Rage010101 (5470 posts) -

lol at console limitations. Next gen my ass. lol at console kiddies who try to damage control their trash.

#64 Edited by CrownKingArthur (4523 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

So much for these new consoles, cows spamming threads about 720p vs 900p...

900p... ladies and gentlemen.

as some sort of victory... 900p really? £350+ devices.... 900p...

"Resolution-gate" your both gated by these craptastic upgraded devices.

who are you trying to fool here?

All the cows are frauds. The past three generations we heard from them time and again how resolution and frame-rate aren't important. Now when it gives them some leverage to bash other consoles they act like those things are super important.

But a funny thing is happening. For a while Sony fanboys were under the mistaken belief that games on the PS4 would be 1080p and 60fps, but now that more and more games are being shown to only be around 30fps on PS4 they aren't talking up frame-rate quite so much.

I predict that Sony fanboys will eventually start downplaying 60fps just as they used to downplay 1080p (and as they currently downplay resolutions higher than 1080p). This will happen because there will be very few graphically demanding PS4 games that run at 60fps, and in typical cow fashion they will downplay anything their precious console doesn't have.

As a PC gamer, even though I really enjoy higher resolutions, I still feel that a smooth frame-rate is more important than having a higher resolution. Of course it depends on what resolution and frame-rate we are talking about. Put it this way, I would rather play a game at 720p and a solid 60fps than a game at 1080p that runs choppy.

good post. especially your prediction - you're a soothsayer bro.

and yes, i believe it's a personal thing - but i too am a frame rate maximiser.

#65 Posted by Shielder7 (5152 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

@StrongBlackVine said:

@clyde46 said:

@APiranhaAteMyVa said:

Hermits with their 460GTX cards trying to convince everyone else that they can max out games at 4k/120 with ease. Check out the benchmarks for high end cards like Titan, 780GTX and the R9 290x:

1920x1080R9 290R9 290XGTX 780GTX 780 TiGTX Titan
Metro 2033, Very High, 4x MSAA44.1fps51.5fps47.5fps51.8fps49.0fps
Metro: Last Light, Very High, SSAA43.2fps46.6fps40.7fps48.9fps43.0fps
Hitman: Absolution, Ultra, 8x MSAA52.3fps55.2fps47.0fps53.0fps49.8fps
Sleeping Dogs, Extreme64.8fps67.8fps61.0fps72.0fps66.5fps

lulz, the same reviewer of the 290x review mentioned locking Crysis 3 to 30fps as it fluctuates all over the place.

Ultra, Very High, Extreme, 4xMSAA, 8xMSAA.... I don't see consoles running those games at those settings.

Damage control.

so the consolite arguments is "PC gamers cant max games due to 16x Anti aliasing being an option" ...... really? if they could you could then have the option to go higher again.... so if that sim[possible now its not maxxed?

muppets....

But wasn't that your whole argument that most PCs can max them and consoles can't.........

Who are you trying to fool here? Besides how much better can PC run Infamous, The Order Uncharted, GOW, oh hell even the new SSB, Mario Kart or the Next Zelda? Thought so.

#66 Edited by kitty (114619 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@StrongBlackVine said:

@clyde46 said:

@APiranhaAteMyVa said:

Hermits with their 460GTX cards trying to convince everyone else that they can max out games at 4k/120 with ease. Check out the benchmarks for high end cards like Titan, 780GTX and the R9 290x:

1920x1080R9 290R9 290XGTX 780GTX 780 TiGTX Titan
Metro 2033, Very High, 4x MSAA44.1fps51.5fps47.5fps51.8fps49.0fps
Metro: Last Light, Very High, SSAA43.2fps46.6fps40.7fps48.9fps43.0fps
Hitman: Absolution, Ultra, 8x MSAA52.3fps55.2fps47.0fps53.0fps49.8fps
Sleeping Dogs, Extreme64.8fps67.8fps61.0fps72.0fps66.5fps

lulz, the same reviewer of the 290x review mentioned locking Crysis 3 to 30fps as it fluctuates all over the place.

Ultra, Very High, Extreme, 4xMSAA, 8xMSAA.... I don't see consoles running those games at those settings.

Damage control.

Is that the best retort you got? Fact is, those cards are running games at a much higher setting and at a larger resolution.....

@ 2x the price of a ps4. Congratz

wrong, I get those framerates and I didn't even spend $300....

#67 Edited by clyde46 (45449 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:

@StrongBlackVine said:

@clyde46 said:

@StrongBlackVine said:

@clyde46 said:

@APiranhaAteMyVa said:

Hermits with their 460GTX cards trying to convince everyone else that they can max out games at 4k/120 with ease. Check out the benchmarks for high end cards like Titan, 780GTX and the R9 290x:

1920x1080R9 290R9 290XGTX 780GTX 780 TiGTX Titan
Metro 2033, Very High, 4x MSAA44.1fps51.5fps47.5fps51.8fps49.0fps
Metro: Last Light, Very High, SSAA43.2fps46.6fps40.7fps48.9fps43.0fps
Hitman: Absolution, Ultra, 8x MSAA52.3fps55.2fps47.0fps53.0fps49.8fps
Sleeping Dogs, Extreme64.8fps67.8fps61.0fps72.0fps66.5fps

lulz, the same reviewer of the 290x review mentioned locking Crysis 3 to 30fps as it fluctuates all over the place.

Ultra, Very High, Extreme, 4xMSAA, 8xMSAA.... I don't see consoles running those games at those settings.

Damage control.

Is that the best retort you got? Fact is, those cards are running games at a much higher setting and at a larger resolution.....

Not running games the highest setting with a constant 60fps.Never said it wasn't better than what consoles are capable of. Looks like sacrifices have to be made on PC as well unless you have an unlimited budget(and maybe even then).

i have a question. well actually a few questions.

if anything less than the maximum is a sacrifice, then because i'm not playing on a 4k monitor, am i making a sacrifice?

also, do you accept that the magnitude of sacrifice by console gamers must be greater?

also, is it really necessary to use FPS tanking exotic methods of anti aliasing?

Seems like that comes down to personal preference.I'm sure there PC gamers that not satisfied with any thing less than absolute best settings. I am constant seeing PC gamers claim they are running games at MAX settings with 60fps and that shows the majority them are lying. Looks they are comparing to console and not what the the game is actually capable of on PC. Its all relative. Also that is kind of disappointing that even the top cards around can't max all games out.

Stop talking out of your ass. For one, the source was never stated so we know nothing of what the rest of settings and components were. Its also a fact that many settings enabled in those "very high" presets take a toll on framerates whilst giving little in terms of increased visuals. Supersampling in games like the Sleeping Dogs does nothing yet even with those settings enabled we are seeing those cards producing playable framerates.

#68 Posted by razu2444 (802 posts) -
#69 Edited by CrownKingArthur (4523 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

@StrongBlackVine said:

@clyde46 said:

@APiranhaAteMyVa said:

Hermits with their 460GTX cards trying to convince everyone else that they can max out games at 4k/120 with ease. Check out the benchmarks for high end cards like Titan, 780GTX and the R9 290x:

1920x1080R9 290R9 290XGTX 780GTX 780 TiGTX Titan
Metro 2033, Very High, 4x MSAA44.1fps51.5fps47.5fps51.8fps49.0fps
Metro: Last Light, Very High, SSAA43.2fps46.6fps40.7fps48.9fps43.0fps
Hitman: Absolution, Ultra, 8x MSAA52.3fps55.2fps47.0fps53.0fps49.8fps
Sleeping Dogs, Extreme64.8fps67.8fps61.0fps72.0fps66.5fps

lulz, the same reviewer of the 290x review mentioned locking Crysis 3 to 30fps as it fluctuates all over the place.

Ultra, Very High, Extreme, 4xMSAA, 8xMSAA.... I don't see consoles running those games at those settings.

Damage control.

so the consolite arguments is "PC gamers cant max games due to 16x Anti aliasing being an option" ...... really? if they could you could then have the option to go higher again.... so if that sim[possible now its not maxxed?

muppets....

But wasn't that your whole argument that most PCs can max them and consoles can't.........

Who are you trying to fool here? Besides how much better can PC run Infamous, The Order Uncharted, GOW, oh hell even the new SSB, Mario Kart or the Next Zelda? Thought so.

if their point was "PCs can max them and consoles can't"

then the answer is, 'PCs can max them and consoles can't' - still true.

#70 Posted by MBirdy88 (7864 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

@StrongBlackVine said:

@clyde46 said:

@APiranhaAteMyVa said:

Hermits with their 460GTX cards trying to convince everyone else that they can max out games at 4k/120 with ease. Check out the benchmarks for high end cards like Titan, 780GTX and the R9 290x:

1920x1080R9 290R9 290XGTX 780GTX 780 TiGTX Titan
Metro 2033, Very High, 4x MSAA44.1fps51.5fps47.5fps51.8fps49.0fps
Metro: Last Light, Very High, SSAA43.2fps46.6fps40.7fps48.9fps43.0fps
Hitman: Absolution, Ultra, 8x MSAA52.3fps55.2fps47.0fps53.0fps49.8fps
Sleeping Dogs, Extreme64.8fps67.8fps61.0fps72.0fps66.5fps

lulz, the same reviewer of the 290x review mentioned locking Crysis 3 to 30fps as it fluctuates all over the place.

Ultra, Very High, Extreme, 4xMSAA, 8xMSAA.... I don't see consoles running those games at those settings.

Damage control.

so the consolite arguments is "PC gamers cant max games due to 16x Anti aliasing being an option" ...... really? if they could you could then have the option to go higher again.... so if that sim[possible now its not maxxed?

muppets....

But wasn't that your whole argument that most PCs can max them and consoles can't.........

Who are you trying to fool here? Besides how much better can PC run Infamous, The Order Uncharted, GOW, oh hell even the new SSB, Mario Kart or the Next Zelda? Thought so.

the exclusive card? how well does the consoles run pc games.. yea stupid arguement but then its Shielder!

you realise when most people say "max" a game they mean competant AA (2x or 4x) ... max graphical settings, and their native or at least 1080p right?

you cant be this dense...

#71 Edited by MiiiiV (372 posts) -

Just because most PCs can't achieve stable 60fps, max settings with 8xmsaa doesn't mean that they don't beat the "next gen" consoles. High-end PCs absolutely smokes ps4/X1 in graphics performance and frame rate, even though most of them don't run some of the most demanding games at 1080p with consistent 60fps (except for monster rigs) at the very maximum settings.

#72 Edited by emgesp (2109 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:
@emgesp said:

@BeardMaster said:

@Dire_Weasel said:

Fact check: So far the only 900p Playstation 4 game is Battlefield 4. Everything else that's been released is 1080p.

There are rumors that the Witcher 3 might be 900p, and if true, that would be the second Playstation 4 game that runs at sub-1080p.

I'm glad I could clear that up for you, OP.

Fact check, like no ps4 games are 60fps. But when an overpriced version of tomb raider came out.. apparently anything less than 60fps is unacceptable. Ignoring the fact tomb raider is more like 45fps during actual gameplay. Shhh cows, goto sleep.

Resogun is 60fps 1080p. 99.99% of PS4 games are native 1080p, so what are you trying to prove?

ps4 doesn't have 10000 games.

so true,

ps4 right now have like 10 games(including some sport games lol), and we already know that bf4 is 900p, Witcher 3 is 900p, Order-1886 is 800p etc

Witcher 3 is aiming for 1080p. The Order is rendered in 1080p, Its just that it has a wider than 16x9 aspect ratio, so black bars are taking up some information. Same exact pixel density.

#73 Edited by tormentos (17340 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

So much for these new consoles, cows spamming threads about 720p vs 900p...

900p... ladies and gentlemen.

as some sort of victory... 900p really? £350+ devices.... 900p...

"Resolution-gate" your both gated by these craptastic upgraded devices.

who are you trying to fool here?

How many games are 900p on PS4.?

the majority are 1080.

#74 Posted by Gaming-Planet (13998 posts) -

PS4 won't play 1080p games forever, just like a midrange video card won't in 5+ years.

#75 Posted by heretrix (37326 posts) -
#76 Posted by heretrix (37326 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@StrongBlackVine said:

@clyde46 said:

@APiranhaAteMyVa said:

Hermits with their 460GTX cards trying to convince everyone else that they can max out games at 4k/120 with ease. Check out the benchmarks for high end cards like Titan, 780GTX and the R9 290x:

1920x1080R9 290R9 290XGTX 780GTX 780 TiGTX Titan
Metro 2033, Very High, 4x MSAA44.1fps51.5fps47.5fps51.8fps49.0fps
Metro: Last Light, Very High, SSAA43.2fps46.6fps40.7fps48.9fps43.0fps
Hitman: Absolution, Ultra, 8x MSAA52.3fps55.2fps47.0fps53.0fps49.8fps
Sleeping Dogs, Extreme64.8fps67.8fps61.0fps72.0fps66.5fps

lulz, the same reviewer of the 290x review mentioned locking Crysis 3 to 30fps as it fluctuates all over the place.

Ultra, Very High, Extreme, 4xMSAA, 8xMSAA.... I don't see consoles running those games at those settings.

Damage control.

Is that the best retort you got? Fact is, those cards are running games at a much higher setting and at a larger resolution.....

@ 2x the price of a ps4. Congratz

Go big or go the fuck home.

#77 Posted by MBirdy88 (7864 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

So much for these new consoles, cows spamming threads about 720p vs 900p...

900p... ladies and gentlemen.

as some sort of victory... 900p really? £350+ devices.... 900p...

"Resolution-gate" your both gated by these craptastic upgraded devices.

who are you trying to fool here?

How many games are 900p on PS4.?

the majority are 1080.

the majority .... being what? last gen ports, indie games.... meanwhile any boundary pushing game isn't.

#78 Edited by MdBrOtha04 (1822 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

@tormentos said:

@MBirdy88 said:

So much for these new consoles, cows spamming threads about 720p vs 900p...

900p... ladies and gentlemen.

as some sort of victory... 900p really? £350+ devices.... 900p...

"Resolution-gate" your both gated by these craptastic upgraded devices.

who are you trying to fool here?

How many games are 900p on PS4.?

the majority are 1080.

the majority .... being what? last gen ports, indie games.... meanwhile any boundary pushing game isn't.

Killzone Shadowfall runs at 1080p

#79 Posted by kalipekona (2297 posts) -

Hermits with their 460GTX cards trying to convince everyone else that they can max out games at 4k/120 with ease. Check out the benchmarks for high end cards like Titan, 780GTX and the R9 290x:

1920x1080R9 290R9 290XGTX 780GTX 780 TiGTX Titan
Metro 2033, Very High, 4x MSAA44.1fps51.5fps47.5fps51.8fps49.0fps
Metro: Last Light, Very High, SSAA43.2fps46.6fps40.7fps48.9fps43.0fps
Hitman: Absolution, Ultra, 8x MSAA52.3fps55.2fps47.0fps53.0fps49.8fps
Sleeping Dogs, Extreme64.8fps67.8fps61.0fps72.0fps66.5fps

lulz, the same reviewer of the 290x review mentioned locking Crysis 3 to 30fps as it fluctuates all over the place.

You mean the way a lot of games on the PS4 do? I've never seen a console with more fluctuating, stuttery frame-rates than the PS4. KZSF, Knack, Tomb Raider, Thief...so many games with uncapped, juddery frame-rates.

At least on PC you have the ability to cap your frame-rate at 30fps on the rare games that you might not be able to run at a solid 60fps. Crysis 3 maxed out still looks better than anything on "next gen" consoles.

But I love how you pick the absolute most demanding games at ridiculously high quality settings and act like it represents PC games in general.

#80 Edited by MdBrOtha04 (1822 posts) -
@kalipekona said:

@APiranhaAteMyVa said:

Hermits with their 460GTX cards trying to convince everyone else that they can max out games at 4k/120 with ease. Check out the benchmarks for high end cards like Titan, 780GTX and the R9 290x:

1920x1080R9 290R9 290XGTX 780GTX 780 TiGTX Titan
Metro 2033, Very High, 4x MSAA44.1fps51.5fps47.5fps51.8fps49.0fps
Metro: Last Light, Very High, SSAA43.2fps46.6fps40.7fps48.9fps43.0fps
Hitman: Absolution, Ultra, 8x MSAA52.3fps55.2fps47.0fps53.0fps49.8fps
Sleeping Dogs, Extreme64.8fps67.8fps61.0fps72.0fps66.5fps

lulz, the same reviewer of the 290x review mentioned locking Crysis 3 to 30fps as it fluctuates all over the place.

You mean the way a lot of games on the PS4 do? I've never seen a console with more fluctuating, stuttery frame-rates than the PS4. KZSF, Knack, Tomb Raider, Thief...so many games with uncapped, juddery frame-rates.

At least on PC you have the ability to cap your frame-rate at 30fps on the rare games that you might not be able to run at a solid 60fps. Crysis 3 maxed out still looks better than anything on "next gen" consoles.

But I love how you pick the absolute most demanding games at ridiculously high quality settings and act like it represents PC games in general.

I'm still trying to figure out where he gets those numbers from. I get over 60 fps on Metro Last Light running the benchmark. (edit with SSAA disabled FXAA enabled)

My GPU may have came factory overclocked but I still have room to upgraded my CPU. I'm still using a -i7 920. I will be upgrading to a i7 4770K soon.

#81 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (7122 posts) -

Thank you Sony for your amazing list of exclusive games! In 1080p and 60fps.

#82 Posted by NFJSupreme (5200 posts) -

@miiiiv said:

Just because most PCs can't achieve stable 60fps, max settings with 8xmsaa doesn't mean that they don't beat the "next gen" consoles. High-end PCs absolutely smokes ps4/X1 in graphics performance and frame rate, even though most of them don't run some of the most demanding games at 1080p with consistent 60fps (except for monster rigs) at the very maximum settings.

the fact consolites like to ignore is that even though a game is not at the maximum settings it can still be run at a higher graphical setting than the next gen consoles and run at a true rock solid 60fps with no dips into the 40s no matter what is going on like you see on nextgen consoles. All while in 1080p

#83 Posted by gregbmil (2607 posts) -

I just got my PS4 a few days ago and I've only played Killzone and Outlast. If I hit the info button on my tv it tells me what the resolution is and both of those games it always says 1080p.

#84 Posted by Couth_ (10036 posts) -

Hermits with their 460GTX cards trying to convince everyone else that they can max out games at 4k/120 with ease. Check out the benchmarks for high end cards like Titan, 780GTX and the R9 290x:

1920x1080R9 290R9 290XGTX 780GTX 780 TiGTX Titan
Metro 2033, Very High, 4x MSAA44.1fps51.5fps47.5fps51.8fps49.0fps
Metro: Last Light, Very High, SSAA43.2fps46.6fps40.7fps48.9fps43.0fps
Hitman: Absolution, Ultra, 8x MSAA52.3fps55.2fps47.0fps53.0fps49.8fps
Sleeping Dogs, Extreme64.8fps67.8fps61.0fps72.0fps66.5fps

lulz, the same reviewer of the 290x review mentioned locking Crysis 3 to 30fps as it fluctuates all over the place.

To Be fair, no real gamers, even enthusiasts, are playing games in 4k because the only current 4k monitors are 30hz and terrible for gaming. None of those cards are really meant for 4k. The next generation of graphics cards will be built with 4k in mind and there will be a massive performance boost at that resolution and they will launch right around the time better 4k monitors launch as well. 4k isn't a thing yet. 1440p is though

#85 Edited by kalipekona (2297 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

So much for these new consoles, cows spamming threads about 720p vs 900p...

900p... ladies and gentlemen.

as some sort of victory... 900p really? £350+ devices.... 900p...

"Resolution-gate" your both gated by these craptastic upgraded devices.

who are you trying to fool here?

How many games are 900p on PS4.?

the majority are 1080.

We already know of three games that are below 1920 x 1080 resolution: Battlefield 4, The Witcher 3 and The Order 1886. There are so few games on the PS4 at this point that three games is fairly significant. If that same percentage holds true the rest of the generation, there will be quite a lot of sub-1080p games.

Also, how many graphically demanding games on PS4 are 1080p and 60fps?

#86 Posted by Vecna (3384 posts) -

Console fanboys going at it can be amusing, but this shit is getting old. Both of your platforms suck for gaming. They are already making compromises out of the gate. Sucks to launch something and the hardware is already outdated.

#87 Posted by W1NGMAN- (9959 posts) -

I don't get why it's so hard to comprehend ... This really has little to do with resolution but mainly the fact that the console priced 100 dollars cheaper is outperforming the competition.

#88 Posted by zeeshanhaider (2444 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

Welcome to 2009 consolites.

Actually PS4 has a 800p game coming from a first party. So let's see what excuse do they have this time.

#89 Edited by Pray_to_me (2834 posts) -

Interesting that hermits are always rushing to defend the Xbone. I guess it makes sense because if it weren't for the scraps that fall from Xbox's plate they wouldn't have shit to play LMFAO!

"B-b-but PC has the most high rated World of Warcraft expansion packs!"

LMFAO!

#90 Posted by FLOPPAGE_50 (770 posts) -

Interesting that hermits are always rushing to defend the Xbone. I guess it makes sense because if it weren't for the scraps that fall from Xbox's plate they wouldn't have shit to play LMFAO!

"B-b-but PC has the most high rated World of Warcraft expansion packs!"

LMFAO!

Honestly bro, you seem like a Warcraft player to me, you kinda give that vibe.

It's okay to come out of the MMO closet now bro, hot chicks play MMORPGS now, this ain't the 90s, you won't be bullied.

#91 Edited by super600 (30406 posts) -

Both consoles are way to weak to run games at 1080P and 60fps and even 30fps consistently.I predicted something like this a long time ago on this board, but no one would believe me.I hope people enjoy playing the games that release on both.

#92 Edited by tormentos (17340 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

@tormentos said:

@MBirdy88 said:

So much for these new consoles, cows spamming threads about 720p vs 900p...

900p... ladies and gentlemen.

as some sort of victory... 900p really? £350+ devices.... 900p...

"Resolution-gate" your both gated by these craptastic upgraded devices.

who are you trying to fool here?

How many games are 900p on PS4.?

the majority are 1080.

the majority .... being what? last gen ports, indie games.... meanwhile any boundary pushing game isn't.

Killzone SF wasn't a port was the best looking game on launch and was 1080p more than 30FPS...

Almost all games are 1080p on PS4 which = a Fact,much higher than the majority of PC out there by the way,which can't even run BF4 minimum at 1680x1050.

#93 Posted by zeeshanhaider (2444 posts) -

Called it before that majority of the games on the so called next gen consoles won't reach 1080p even at 30FPS. I mean this is just the start and the console kiddies are getting games with 900p/800p/792p/720 etc and the road only goes downwards from here. I don't even want to know how pathetic they will become in 5 years. Because I'm damn sure 4K will be a standard for PC games by then.

#94 Edited by ronvalencia (15109 posts) -

@APiranhaAteMyVa said:

@clyde46 said:

@APiranhaAteMyVa said:

Hermits with their 460GTX cards trying to convince everyone else that they can max out games at 4k/120 with ease. Check out the benchmarks for high end cards like Titan, 780GTX and the R9 290x:

1920x1080R9 290R9 290XGTX 780GTX 780 TiGTX Titan
Metro 2033, Very High, 4x MSAA44.1fps51.5fps47.5fps51.8fps49.0fps
Metro: Last Light, Very High, SSAA43.2fps46.6fps40.7fps48.9fps43.0fps
Hitman: Absolution, Ultra, 8x MSAA52.3fps55.2fps47.0fps53.0fps49.8fps
Sleeping Dogs, Extreme64.8fps67.8fps61.0fps72.0fps66.5fps

lulz, the same reviewer of the 290x review mentioned locking Crysis 3 to 30fps as it fluctuates all over the place.

Ultra, Very High, Extreme, 4xMSAA, 8xMSAA.... I don't see consoles running those games at those settings.

These card range from £300-800, if they was running at the same settings as console that would be embarrassing. Still shows that most hermits aren't maxing out their games with ease.

SSAA = Super Sample AA is actually rendering the game beyond 1920x1080p resolution. LOL.

#95 Posted by Mesomorphin (814 posts) -

Many might find it interesting to know that all these games on consoles that claim to be "1080p" well majority of the time they really just are 900p, being upscaled.

#96 Posted by chubz256 (168 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@APiranhaAteMyVa said:

Hermits with their 460GTX cards trying to convince everyone else that they can max out games at 4k/120 with ease. Check out the benchmarks for high end cards like Titan, 780GTX and the R9 290x:

1920x1080R9 290R9 290XGTX 780GTX 780 TiGTX Titan
Metro 2033, Very High, 4x MSAA44.1fps51.5fps47.5fps51.8fps49.0fps
Metro: Last Light, Very High, SSAA43.2fps46.6fps40.7fps48.9fps43.0fps
Hitman: Absolution, Ultra, 8x MSAA52.3fps55.2fps47.0fps53.0fps49.8fps
Sleeping Dogs, Extreme64.8fps67.8fps61.0fps72.0fps66.5fps

lulz, the same reviewer of the 290x review mentioned locking Crysis 3 to 30fps as it fluctuates all over the place.

Ultra, Very High, Extreme, 4xMSAA, 8xMSAA.... I don't see consoles running those games at those settings.

True story. I bet consoles at those frames would have to be at very low to minimal settings at 720p and still struggle.

#97 Edited by NFJSupreme (5200 posts) -

The irony of resolution gate is that the best looking game on both consoles is not in 1080p. Mind boggling isn't it?

#98 Edited by Pray_to_me (2834 posts) -

@Pray_to_me said:

Interesting that hermits are always rushing to defend the Xbone. I guess it makes sense because if it weren't for the scraps that fall from Xbox's plate they wouldn't have shit to play LMFAO!

"B-b-but PC has the most high rated World of Warcraft expansion packs!"

LMFAO!

Honestly bro, you seem like a Warcraft player to me, you kinda give that vibe.

It's okay to come out of the MMO closet now bro, hot chicks play MMORPGS now, this ain't the 90s, you won't be bullied.

lol I'd snuff the hell outta you

#99 Edited by MBirdy88 (7864 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

@tormentos said:

@MBirdy88 said:

So much for these new consoles, cows spamming threads about 720p vs 900p...

900p... ladies and gentlemen.

as some sort of victory... 900p really? £350+ devices.... 900p...

"Resolution-gate" your both gated by these craptastic upgraded devices.

who are you trying to fool here?

How many games are 900p on PS4.?

the majority are 1080.

the majority .... being what? last gen ports, indie games.... meanwhile any boundary pushing game isn't.

Killzone SF wasn't a port was the best looking game on launch and was 1080p more than 30FPS...

Almost all games are 1080p on PS4 which = a Fact,much higher than the majority of PC out there by the way,which can't even run BF4 minimum at 1680x1050.

now now tormentos. people bought the gaming consoles to play games. most of the people that come under those stupid surveys bought they computers either A) a very long time ago, B) with a secondary intention of games C) ignorance to how hardware works and got short changed by many of the stores.

1080p 30 FPS on the biggest budget tech demo on the system? that while looks fantastic uses so many tricks, over use of blur... and had to sacrifice in MP.

"all PS4 games are 1080p" well clearly they are not... otherwise this wouldn't be a topic" and you wouldn't have cows gloating about 900p over 720p on the witcher.... a game that actually is pushing the boundaries and comparable across all systems.

#100 Edited by MK-Professor (3756 posts) -

@emgesp said:

@MK-Professor said:
@CrownKingArthur said:
@emgesp said:

@BeardMaster said:

@Dire_Weasel said:

Fact check: So far the only 900p Playstation 4 game is Battlefield 4. Everything else that's been released is 1080p.

There are rumors that the Witcher 3 might be 900p, and if true, that would be the second Playstation 4 game that runs at sub-1080p.

I'm glad I could clear that up for you, OP.

Fact check, like no ps4 games are 60fps. But when an overpriced version of tomb raider came out.. apparently anything less than 60fps is unacceptable. Ignoring the fact tomb raider is more like 45fps during actual gameplay. Shhh cows, goto sleep.

Resogun is 60fps 1080p. 99.99% of PS4 games are native 1080p, so what are you trying to prove?

ps4 doesn't have 10000 games.

so true,

ps4 right now have like 10 games(including some sport games lol), and we already know that bf4 is 900p, Witcher 3 is 900p, Order-1886 is 800p etc

Witcher 3 is aiming for 1080p. The Order is rendered in 1080p, Its just that it has a wider than 16x9 aspect ratio, so black bars are taking up some information. Same exact pixel density.

All rumors are saying that Witcher 3 will be 900p, and it make sense because it is going to be a graphically demanding game.

And Order-1886 is rendered at 800p.(saying it is rendered in 1080p, it is the same like punting the game in window mod(size 800p) on a screen 1080p, same exact pixel density, but the game is render in 800p as a result more fps). They are using black bars to reduce the rez to 800p to get more performance, it is that simple.