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#1  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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As a Trophy, yes, but he is there.

The full story:

Super Smash Bros. is set to feature a trophy of Rayman, creator Masahiro Sakurai has revealed.

"In order to make Rayman's trophy, we asked Ubisoft to share their references," he wrote. "We were expecting to receive 2D drawing references for Rayman, but to our surprise, they sent us data of a brand new 3D model that they rendered for this game!! And that was how this trophy was created. It takes a lot of work creating each model, so it's wonderful that the creators contributed their own efforts!!"

While it's awesome news that third-party trophies seem to be included in the game, the decision to announce the trophy today has immediately caused speculation that Rayman could be a playable fighter in the upcoming brawl 'em up. With the 33rd playable fighter set for reveal later today, hopefully it won't be too long before we find out.

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This probably makes Smash 4 one of the greatest museums to, and celebrations of, gaming's icons. With Mario, Sonic, Pac-Man, Mega-Man, and now Rayman all in the same game, Smash Bros. 4's representation of gaming through the ages looks amazing.

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Such a great franchise, Super Smash Bros. They could probably nerf Fox a bit, but still a fantastic series.

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#3 nintendoboy16
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I said this before, but Rayman should NOT be in there in any shape or form after the Legends fiasco. If anything, it's surprising Sony and Ubi haven't worked out a deal to put him in PSASBR.

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#4  Edited By 93BlackHawk93
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I still believe the announcement is Shulk.

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#5  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@nintendoboy16 said:

I said this before, but Rayman should NOT be in there in any shape or form after the Legends fiasco. If anything, it's surprising Sony and Ubi haven't worked out a deal to put him in PSASBR.

Because burning MORE bridges with third parties is what Nintendo should be doing!

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#6 R4gn4r0k
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So is he playable or not ?

@nintendoboy16 said:

I said this before, but Rayman should NOT be in there in any shape or form after the Legends fiasco. If anything, it's surprising Sony and Ubi haven't worked out a deal to put him in PSASBR.

legends fiasco ?

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@93BlackHawk93 said:

I believe the announcement is still Shulk.

Definitely, but the presence of a western third party character in Smash is still pretty big news!

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#8 AgeThe6
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I would love to see Rayman make it into the game and not at launch at least maybe DLC later on.

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@R4gn4r0k said:

So is he playable or not ?

@nintendoboy16 said:

I said this before, but Rayman should NOT be in there in any shape or form after the Legends fiasco. If anything, it's surprising Sony and Ubi haven't worked out a deal to put him in PSASBR.

legends fiasco ?

Legends got delayed because Ubisoft decided to make a financially sound decision and not release it on Wii U three months after it had launched, and had sold like, 3 million units worldwide, with a userbase that was buying no games.

This apparently now constitutes a fiasco.

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@charizard1605 said:

@93BlackHawk93 said:

I believe the announcement is still Shulk.

Definitely, but the presence of a western third party character in Smash is still pretty big news!

Yes, I would love Rayman in the game too! :)

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#11  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@R4gn4r0k said:

legends fiasco ?

The gist of it:

Last year, Ubisoft delayed the game at the last minute to make it multiplat in response to the critically mixed Zombi U selling like ass. This angered both Nintendo fans and Ubisoft's own developers (one of them wrote a forum post explaining his frustrations on the situation). Salting wounds, they released another demo to "make it up" to Wii U owners of the game and came up with damage controlling PR stating that the game will still sell Wii U's. The game released and, unsurprisingly, it bombed in sales (it DID release around the same time GTA V released).

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#12  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@charizard1605: May as well. Much of the Nintendo fandom as since shunned Ubisoft after that anyway.

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#13  Edited By jg4xchamp
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Rayman would be a fun character to add. I wouldn't mind some third party stuff

It be cool if they could get some noteworthy characters from the Nes/Snes era. Sonic works for being a big rival in the 90s, Pacman works for being from a similar era, but when I think Rayman I think the original Playstation. Though to be fair Rayman falls under The Snake class. Because Snake I also associate with Playstation, albeit his first game was what, the MSX?

Regardless if they could get more third party characters: Simon Belmont (Castlevania 1/Super Castlevania), Terra Branford, Crono or something like that. If it's gotta be recent guys, it be cool if they showed love to some of their successful DS/GBA stuff like Phoenix Wright, Layton, what's his face from Ghost Trick.

Well aware all of this is totally not plausible and not going to happen, but it be cool as **** if Smash had that kind of range.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

legends fiasco ?

The gist of it:

Last year, Ubisoft delayed the game at the last minute to make it multiplat in response to the critically mixed Zombi U selling like ass. This angered both Nintendo fans and Ubisoft's own developers (one of them wrote a forum post explaining his frustrations on the situation). Salting wounds, they released another demo to "make it up" to Wii U owners of the game and came up with damage controlling PR stating that the game will still sell Wii U's. The game released and, unsurprisingly, it bombed in sales (it DID release around the same time GTA V released).

And that demo was awesome. No complaints from me after they released that app. They totally made up for it.

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"as a trophy"

welp

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@trugs26 said:

And that demo was awesome. No complaints from me after they released that app. They totally made up for it.

Everybody else doesn't seem to agree.

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@charizard1605 said:

Legends got delayed because Ubisoft decided to make a financially sound decision and not release it on Wii U three months after it had launched, and had sold like, 3 million units worldwide, with a userbase that was buying no games.

This apparently now constitutes a fiasco.

@nintendoboy16 said:

The gist of it:

Last year, Ubisoft delayed the game at the last minute to make it multiplat in response to the critically mixed Zombi U selling like ass. This angered both Nintendo fans and Ubisoft's own developers (one of them wrote a forum post explaining his frustrations on the situation). Salting wounds, they released another demo to "make it up" to Wii U owners of the game and came up with damage controlling PR stating that the game will still sell Wii U's. The game released and, unsurprisingly, it bombed in sales (it DID release around the same time GTA V released).

Every game seems to be delayed for Wii U these days (Watch Dogs, Project Cars, ...) if they are even coming to Wii U.

Is this Ubisofts fault ? Nintendo's fault for having a 'meh' relation with third party ? or Nintendo gamers fault for not buying enough third party games ?

It's probably a bit of all three.

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Not Topic worthy

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Good, I thought it was for the playable character. I would have been disappointed if that were true.

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Super Smash Bros is looking more fantastic with every tidbit of information.

Would I be upset if Rayman became playable? Not at all, I think it'd be fun to have a melee fighter with a bit of range; those hands and feet have distance! Shulk would still be a good addition, but anytime someone asks what third-party characters should be added I still hold to wanting Sora from Kingdom Hearts in there. That would be too good.

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@charizard1605: OMG YES AMAZING LOVE RAYMAN DAY ON- "As a Trophy." ..... You are Hitler.

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#23  Edited By deactivated-583e460ca986b
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Playstation All Stars vs Smash Bros. You heard it here first.

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#24  Edited By 93BlackHawk93
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@Desmonic said:

Aww, trophy? Shame. Wait, this wasn't the reveal they wanted to make it Evo was it? I was under the impression it was going to be an actual character....

The New Challenger announcement? That's still going on.

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@Desmonic said:

@93BlackHawk93: Oh cool!

Any hints on who it might be?

Shulk, I think.

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#29  Edited By 93BlackHawk93
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@nintendoboy16 said:

@Desmonic said:

@93BlackHawk93: Oh cool!

Any hints on who it might be?

Shulk, I think.

Yes.

Monolith Soft retweeted the event and the Gedatsu leaker (that has yet to fail) confirmed it.

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good to see some new characters

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I knew the thread was a trap somehow :P but I never thought of Rayman in Smash Bros and I think it would be a great idea! Too bad he's a trophy. :(

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@nintendoboy16 said:

I said this before, but Rayman should NOT be in there in any shape or form after the Legends fiasco. If anything, it's surprising Sony and Ubi haven't worked out a deal to put him in PSASBR.

Oh for Christ's sake, shut the **** up already.

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@diliigaf: Deal with it.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

@diliigaf: Deal with it.

Wow, as repetitive and original as always.

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Oh my god! He's in he's in.... as a trophy.

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He would've been a cool character addition.

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as a trophy? Ok.

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#38  Edited By commonfate
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@R3FURBISHED said:

Such a great franchise, Super Smash Bros. They could probably nerf Fox a bit, but still a fantastic series.

He got hit pretty hard in Brawl.

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@commonfate said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

Such a great franchise, Super Smash Bros. They could probably nerf Fox a bit, but still a fantastic series.

He got hit pretty hard in Brawl.

People complain about Fox being "OP" in Melee, conveniently forget about Pikachu being broken in 64 and Meta Knight single-handedly ruining character balance in Brawl. lel

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Good thing he's not a playable character, because having more unique characters to play as would suck.

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@jg4xchamp said:

Rayman would be a fun character to add. I wouldn't mind some third party stuff

It be cool if they could get some noteworthy characters from the Nes/Snes era. Sonic works for being a big rival in the 90s, Pacman works for being from a similar era, but when I think Rayman I think the original Playstation. Though to be fair Rayman falls under The Snake class. Because Snake I also associate with Playstation, albeit his first game was what, the MSX?

Regardless if they could get more third party characters: Simon Belmont (Castlevania 1/Super Castlevania), Terra Branford, Crono or something like that. If it's gotta be recent guys, it be cool if they showed love to some of their successful DS/GBA stuff like Phoenix Wright, Layton, what's his face from Ghost Trick.

Well aware all of this is totally not plausible and not going to happen, but it be cool as **** if Smash had that kind of range.

Did you just say PacMan was from the 90's?

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aw. a trophy? You raised my hopes and then swiftly shot them down. Well done, sir.

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Gimme the game already!

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@MonsieurX said:

Gimme the game already!

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@nintendoboy16 said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

legends fiasco ?

The gist of it:

Last year, Ubisoft delayed the game at the last minute to make it multiplat in response to the critically mixed Zombi U selling like ass. This angered both Nintendo fans and Ubisoft's own developers (one of them wrote a forum post explaining his frustrations on the situation). Salting wounds, they released another demo to "make it up" to Wii U owners of the game and came up with damage controlling PR stating that the game will still sell Wii U's. The game released and, unsurprisingly, it bombed in sales (it DID release around the same time GTA V released).

And also to add that Legends Wii U version sold way more units then the other platforms which ubisoft will never forget and that will teach them a lesson. Serves them right.

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#48 SolidTy
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I read Rayman is simply a trophy offsite and the OP confirms the same. Cool, but not that exciting for me.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

@trugs26 said:

And that demo was awesome. No complaints from me after they released that app. They totally made up for it.

Everybody else doesn't seem to agree.

Well their sense of entitlement is not fair or reasonable. Ubisoft is a business that needs to make money. They screwed up their promise, but they apologised and made up for it by giving us an quality early version in the end. Not accepting this apology or asking for more is just being unreasonable.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

legends fiasco ?

The gist of it:

Last year, Ubisoft delayed the game at the last minute to make it multiplat in response to the critically mixed Zombi U selling like ass. This angered both Nintendo fans and Ubisoft's own developers (one of them wrote a forum post explaining his frustrations on the situation). Salting wounds, they released another demo to "make it up" to Wii U owners of the game and came up with damage controlling PR stating that the game will still sell Wii U's. The game released and, unsurprisingly, it bombed in sales (it DID release around the same time GTA V released).

Well if they didn't do that I wouldn't have Legends in my Steam Library right now. So thank you, Ubigods.