PSN vs XBL, server security still a hot topic?

#1 Edited by -Rhett81- (3569 posts) -

I see this topic come up every time there's an Xbox vs PlayStation argument:

"XBL is better because it wasn't hacked like PSN." Is this point even relevant anymore, or do people still take this into consideration when trying to have a legitimate console argument?

#2 Edited by HadOne2Many (1279 posts) -

Still relevant to me since my personal data was stolen and probably sold to somebody who could potentially use it to steal my identity. That would cause me a lot of headaches trying to clear it up with the credit reporting agencies.

#3 Posted by clyde46 (46634 posts) -

Lots of companies get hacked, its how they secure their customers data is the issue here. Sony did not secure their customers data correctly, that is why people were so angry. I mean, Valve was hacked not long ago but they used salted and hashed databases so even if hackers got the data there was little they could do with.

#4 Edited by -Rhett81- (3569 posts) -

Sony learned the hard way about why data security is important. However, today, is it still a good point to bring up when deciding between XB1 and PS4? Or is PSN getting hacked ancient history now?

#5 Posted by hehe101 (783 posts) -

@HadOne2Many said:

Still relevant to me since my personal data was stolen and probably sold to somebody who could potentially use it to steal my identity. That would cause me a lot of headaches trying to clear it up with the credit reporting agencies.

Wow, guess it is.

#6 Posted by santoron (7775 posts) -

Provided Sony took the steps needed to better protect customer data from potential intrusions in the future? No, it's not relevant anymore. However, I'm sure some people won't move forward with Sony again, and that's the price they pay for their mistakes. I'd venture that the vast majority of consumers it's been completely forgotten, with Most mentions of it at this point coming from fanboys/haters looking for a talking point.

#7 Edited by magicalclick (22852 posts) -

Got hack is not entirely bad. The big problem is they didn't encrypt each record individually. It is common security rule that you encrypt,each record individually, so, cracking one record would not crack another record. Sadly Sony didn't care that much for a free service.

#8 Posted by Heil68 (45267 posts) -

Nope, none at all. My credit card is happily sitting on PSN.

#9 Edited by KittenNose (531 posts) -

Anyone who cared about extremely basic cyber security would update their passwords across all services at least once every 72 days. This describes an extremely tiny percentage of gamers.

Yeah, Sony dropped the ball hard, but at the end of the day the general disdain our culture has for basic cyber security is responsible for far more theft of accounts and theft of personal information then anything else. I mean come on, how many people let their kids set up their own MS/PS accounts? This is just a talking point, not an actual issue.

#10 Edited by HadOne2Many (1279 posts) -

@hehe101 said:

@HadOne2Many said:

Still relevant to me since my personal data was stolen and probably sold to somebody who could potentially use it to steal my identity. That would cause me a lot of headaches trying to clear it up with the credit reporting agencies.

Wow, guess it is.

Just to clarify my stance, I don't go around mentioning it out of the blue, but when someone brings it up (such as this thread) I do remind people that it does still matter. I have purchased Sony products since and will still do so in the future, but I will never provide them any more personal info. I'll use prepaid cards if I want something off the PSN.

@kittennose in addition to our CC info, they got the following information:

* Name

* Address (city, state, zip code)

* Country

* Email address

* Date of birth

* PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login

* Handle/PSN online ID

How is that not an issue?

#12 Edited by hoosier7 (3846 posts) -
@FastRobby said:

Does Sony have a two-step verification for their accounts? Because Microsoft does. So that would be a + point for XBL, but I think athe security from both companies servers are probably decent, and better since the Sony hack.

Most of it's not about hacks and software security imo but phishing and social engineering. I believe they've both struggled on that front.

#13 Posted by darkangel115 (1796 posts) -

well since the PS4 was already hacked less then 2 months after its release

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2014/01/01/derp-hacker-group-unintentionally-takes-down-psn-dcuo-after-targeting-planetside-2/

and the fact it was done on accident. Shows that PSN security is not any good still. Also that PS4 PSN shares an account or servers with DCUO and PS2. its funny how we learn about this stuff after major attacks. Like the big outage of 2007 when we learned that sony never had servers and was renting them from amazon. Now 7 years later and sony still hosts PSN on amazon instead of getting their own servers. Its sad if you ask me

#15 Posted by darkangel115 (1796 posts) -

@FastRobby said:

@darkangel115 said:

well since the PS4 was already hacked less then 2 months after its release

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2014/01/01/derp-hacker-group-unintentionally-takes-down-psn-dcuo-after-targeting-planetside-2/

and the fact it was done on accident. Shows that PSN security is not any good still. Also that PS4 PSN shares an account or servers with DCUO and PS2. its funny how we learn about this stuff after major attacks. Like the big outage of 2007 when we learned that sony never had servers and was renting them from amazon. Now 7 years later and sony still hosts PSN on amazon instead of getting their own servers. Its sad if you ask me

Because they rent them is also the reason they'll never compete with Microsoft who has their own servers. It would just cost too much.

well in all fairness. even if they rented every single server amazon has (which isn't possible) and they dedicated every one to PSN for PS4, they would still only have 1/3rd of the servers MS has for the XB1. And its really sad how people ignore this and make it a cloud joke, yet the PS4 having a GPU that is literally like 5 dollars cost more and barely better, makes it an uber powerful super computer gaming machine. Since when did sony fans turn into a sony cult?

#16 Posted by shellcase86 (1934 posts) -

Although I'd wager MSFT is more secure, I still feel safe with Sony. Fortunately they're seeing some revenue, hopinh they'll invest it wisely.

#17 Posted by killatwill15 (845 posts) -

it doesn't matter if both companies give it to the nsa,

what if someone where to hack the nsa instead?

#18 Posted by Spitfire-Six (523 posts) -

I will never again trust Sony with personal information. This was the biggest driving point for me to buy an xbox.