PSN alone will soon be worth more than all of Nintendo

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#1  Edited By NotAFanboy
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SONY is just incredibly brilliant.

Their playstation network alone will soon be worth more than all of Nintendo.

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/723991376099172353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

"FUN FACT OF THE DAY: Sony generated $4.3b from Network Sales alone (PSN) in calendar year 2015. Nintendo generated $4.7b from EVERYTHING."

INCREDIBLE! AMAZING! SIMPLY OUTSTANDING!

Kidtendo might be banking on the NX to save them, but SONY has the legendary Mark Cerny designing the PS4 NEO. NEO will no doubt be stronger than the NX.

Wonder why there are no other leaks for the NX? The previous NX leaks were controlled by Kidtendo to generate hype for their product. After SONY cockblocked them with the NEO spec leaks, Kidtendo execs were horrified at how weak the NX will look compared to the NEO.

You guys ever watch the Game of Thrones episode where the Boltons brilliants destroyed Stannis' army in secret but then Stannis walks into battle anyway knowing that the Boltons will win the battle? Stannie walked into battle knowing he would lose because that was his destiny and he accepted it. He just had to play his part. This is exactly what is happening in the console war.

Kidtendo was so confident they would get the upper hand with their meager 1.9 TF NX but then SONY stealthily leaked the 4.2 TF NEO which destroyed any hype the NX had. Kidtendo knows they will lose the war with SONY and are only going with the flow. They will announce the NX at E3 with little fanfare and eventually move to 3rd party.

Can't wait to play Mario on my NEO.

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*yawn*

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#3  Edited By iandizion713
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Good luck, cause right now Nintendo is worth more the Sony. And thats Sony as a whole, not Playstation.

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#4  Edited By NotAFanboy
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@iandizion713 said:

Good luck, cause right now Nintendo is worth more the Sony. And thats Sony as a whole, not Playstation.

SONY's market cap is low due to unprofitable divisions.

I guarantee you that PSN alone is making SONY far more money than everything Nintendo is doing combined.

Hell, the PS+ subscription fees are almost entirely all profit, since allowing multiplayer access costs nothing on SONY's end.

If we go by conservative estimates of 25 million PS+ subscribers, that would be $1.25 billion in profit each year from PS+ subscribers alone.

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Just... No.

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#6  Edited By MonsieurX
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How many more buildings will they have to sell to achieve this?

@notafanboy said:
Kidtendo was so confident they would get the upper hand with their meager 1.9 TF NX but then SONY stealthily leaked the 4.2 TF NEO which destroyed any hype the NX had. Kidtendo knows they will lose the war with SONY and are only going with the flow. They will announce the NX at E3 with little fanfare and eventually move to 3rd party.

Can't wait to play Mario on my NEO.

How remember too how well it went for Sony last gen when they had the most powerful console

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#7  Edited By iandizion713
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@notafanboy said:
@iandizion713 said:

Good luck, cause right now Nintendo is worth more the Sony. And thats Sony as a whole, not Playstation.

SONY's market cap is low due to unprofitable divisions.

I guarantee you that PSN alone is making SONY far more money than everything Nintendo is doing combined.

I dont care what you think, right now, Nintendo is worth more the Sony as a whole. But good luck to Sony, with VR and PS4.5K they might make progress. Or...they might not.

Better get to buying, got a long ways to go.

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#8 NotAFanboy
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@iandizion713 said:
@notafanboy said:
@iandizion713 said:

Good luck, cause right now Nintendo is worth more the Sony. And thats Sony as a whole, not Playstation.

SONY's market cap is low due to unprofitable divisions.

I guarantee you that PSN alone is making SONY far more money than everything Nintendo is doing combined.

I dont care what you think, right now, Nintendo is worth more the Sony as a whole. But good luck to Sony, with VR and PS4.5K they might make progress. Or...they might not.

SONY can spin-off the PlayStation division and its marketcap would dwarf Nintendo's.

No one cares about SONY's finance and movie divisions. This is about gaming.

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#9 MonsieurX
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@notafanboy said:
@iandizion713 said:
@notafanboy said:
@iandizion713 said:

Good luck, cause right now Nintendo is worth more the Sony. And thats Sony as a whole, not Playstation.

SONY's market cap is low due to unprofitable divisions.

I guarantee you that PSN alone is making SONY far more money than everything Nintendo is doing combined.

I dont care what you think, right now, Nintendo is worth more the Sony as a whole. But good luck to Sony, with VR and PS4.5K they might make progress. Or...they might not.

SONY can spin-off the PlayStation division and its marketcap would dwarf Nintendo's.

No one cares about SONY's finance and movie divisions. This is about gaming.

Still sad to see such a shitty service getting so much money

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#10  Edited By NotAFanboy
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@MonsieurX said:
@notafanboy said:
@iandizion713 said:
@notafanboy said:

SONY's market cap is low due to unprofitable divisions.

I guarantee you that PSN alone is making SONY far more money than everything Nintendo is doing combined.

I dont care what you think, right now, Nintendo is worth more the Sony as a whole. But good luck to Sony, with VR and PS4.5K they might make progress. Or...they might not.

SONY can spin-off the PlayStation division and its marketcap would dwarf Nintendo's.

No one cares about SONY's finance and movie divisions. This is about gaming.

Still sad to see such a shitty service getting so much money

Shitty? PSN is the best online service on consoles this gen.

Xbox LIVE is an unstable POS and the Wii U's online system is just LOL.

Here's just a small list of things wrong with Xbox LIVE.

-can't party with friends

-can't join friends' games

-can't sign into live

-app don't work (ie. Netflix requires sign in but won't sign in, or Hulu requires a disc for some reaaon)

-everyone shows as offline

-can't play online games solo

-can't play offline game that have a network component (ie. Dark Souls).

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#11  Edited By iandizion713
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@notafanboy: I wish them luck. Nintendo is about to enter mobile and the entertainment industry via TV shows/movies etc. I watched the Star Fox anime...o its good. Might get better.

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#12 Dixonganesh
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I bet TC wears the milking machine with pride, and has his patched deposited directly into Sony's bank account.

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@notafanboy: Go away you

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#14  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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Play Mario on a PS4 you say, can I borrow you're crystal ball please?

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PSN alone will soon generate* money more than all of Nintendo (per year).

Fixed. Saying something's worth is saying it's value. Which changes the statement completely. I don't like clickbait thread title.

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There's no stopping PlayStation Nation.

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#17  Edited By NotAFanboy
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@RPG-er said:

PSN alone will soon generate* money more than all of Nintendo (per year).

Fixed. Saying something's worth is saying it's value. Which changes the statement completely. I don't like clickbait thread title.

Actually, I think it is worth more than all of Nintendo currently.

You have to remember than PSN has huge profit margins as everything is done electronically. PS+ alone generates over $1 billion in profit per year while Nintendo only made around $350 million last year. Add up the online sales and the gap would only go up even more.

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#18 MonsieurX
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@notafanboy said:
@MonsieurX said:
@notafanboy said:
@iandizion713 said:
@notafanboy said:

SONY's market cap is low due to unprofitable divisions.

I guarantee you that PSN alone is making SONY far more money than everything Nintendo is doing combined.

I dont care what you think, right now, Nintendo is worth more the Sony as a whole. But good luck to Sony, with VR and PS4.5K they might make progress. Or...they might not.

SONY can spin-off the PlayStation division and its marketcap would dwarf Nintendo's.

No one cares about SONY's finance and movie divisions. This is about gaming.

Still sad to see such a shitty service getting so much money

Shitty? PSN is the best online service on consoles this gen.

Xbox LIVE is an unstable POS and the Wii U's online system is just LOL.

Here's just a small list of things wrong with Xbox LIVE.

-can't party with friends

-can't join friends' games

-can't sign into live

-app don't work (ie. Netflix requires sign in but won't sign in, or Hulu requires a disc for some reaaon)

-everyone shows as offline

-can't play online games solo

-can't play offline game that have a network component (ie. Dark Souls).

Yet it was free last gen

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@notafanboy said:
@RPG-er said:

PSN alone will soon generate* money more than all of Nintendo (per year).

Fixed. Saying something's worth is saying it's value. Which changes the statement completely. I don't like clickbait thread title.

Actually, I think it is worth more than all of Nintendo currently.

You have to remember than PSN has huge profit margins as everything is done electronically. PS+ alone generates over $1 billion in profit per year while Nintendo only made around $350 million last year.

Nintendo has billions of dollars while Sony is still losing money and the only thing keeping Sony in profits is PlayStation division. That's it.

Also I don't appreciate being lied to when it comes to money notafanboy.

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#20  Edited By NotAFanboy
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@davillain- said:
@notafanboy said:
@RPG-er said:

PSN alone will soon generate* money more than all of Nintendo (per year).

Fixed. Saying something's worth is saying it's value. Which changes the statement completely. I don't like clickbait thread title.

Actually, I think it is worth more than all of Nintendo currently.

You have to remember than PSN has huge profit margins as everything is done electronically. PS+ alone generates over $1 billion in profit per year while Nintendo only made around $350 million last year.

Nintendo has billions of dollars while Sony is still losing money and the only thing keeping Sony in profits is PlayStation division. That's it.

Also I don't appreciate being lied to when it comes to money notafanboy.

We don't give a shit about SONY's insurance, phone, TV, and movie division.

We are only talking about gaming.

Compare the PlayStation division with Nintendo. Don't bring in irrelevant shit. PlayStation Network ALONE makes far more profit than Nintendo makes. Saying SONY lost $6 billion in profit from TVs alone is completely irrelevant. SONY's performance in other divisions will not affect the path of the playstation division. SONY will spin-off the PlayStation division if they have to.

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#21  Edited By deactivated-60bf765068a74
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PS4 is like Comcast there's just no competition in the marketplace. I dunno what the Xbox Division spent 100 million dollars in R&D on XB1 and the 10 Million on the Controller but I hope Satya Nadella kept those receipts because it doesn't add up. Someone at Xbox was taking Microsoft for a ride and just got a big payday for destroying a brand.

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#22 DaVillain  Moderator
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@notafanboy: Whatever you say but the fact remains, Nintendo has billions of dollars while Sony isn't near Nintendo's level when it comes to profits. Also PSN was free and still free on PS3.

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#23  Edited By NotAFanboy
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@davillain- said:

@notafanboy: Whatever you say but the fact remains, Nintendo has billions of dollars while Sony isn't near Nintendo's level when it comes to profits. Also PSN was free and still free on PS3.

lol... yes, in the past SONY has struggled, but the PlayStation division's future is looking pretty bright. SONY's other divisions can file bankruptcy for all I care. PlayStation is immensely profitable and it'll never go away. At the very least, it'll be spun-off into its own company and enjoy significantly higher market cap than Nintendo.

I would be more concerned about Nintendo's future. The Wii U was a colossal flop, and the NX could do even worse. The only thing keeping them profitable is the 3DS, and that thing only sold well at the start due to the momentum from the DS as well as the 3D gimmick. Aside from that, sales have slowed immensely and it looks to be their worst selling handheld ever. So for this gen alone, their console was their worst-selling console ever and their handheld was their worst selling handheld ever. Their next handheld is looking to flop horrendously like the Wii U.

I have money to invest, and it definitely won't be on Nintendo.

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PSN is worth about as much as your lackluster threads.

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#25 NotAFanboy
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@speedfreak48t5p said:

PSN is worth about as much as your lackluster threads.

Yes, a service that generates over $1.5 billion in profit from PS+ subscribers alone is making both lems and sheep jelly.

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#26  Edited By GameboyTroy
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That damn forced online paywall! Its true.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/24/2015-sony-generated-4-3b-from-psn-nintendo-generated-4-7b-from-everything/

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/24/heres-how-nintendo-digital-sales-have-increased-over-time/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg1EA32XEAMKT1r.jpg

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@Kruiz_Bathory said:

*yawn*

+1. Methinks TC's name might be a tad misleading.

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#28  Edited By foxhound_fox
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And that somehow makes it a worthwhile service?

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@notafanboy said:
@RPG-er said:

PSN alone will soon generate* money more than all of Nintendo (per year).

Fixed. Saying something's worth is saying it's value. Which changes the statement completely. I don't like clickbait thread title.

Actually, I think it is worth more than all of Nintendo currently.

You have to remember than PSN has huge profit margins as everything is done electronically. PS+ alone generates over $1 billion in profit per year while Nintendo only made around $350 million last year. Add up the online sales and the gap would only go up even more.

Like I said, worth is value. If Sony sold PSN, using that money, they would be able to buy all of Nintendo. Is that what you're saying? Because that's what the thread title is implying. Nintendo was valued at 22.2 billion dollars last year. Did Nintendo make that much? No, but that's their worth. Are you getting the keywords I'm using here?

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#30  Edited By NotAFanboy
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@RPG-er said:
@notafanboy said:
@RPG-er said:

PSN alone will soon generate* money more than all of Nintendo (per year).

Fixed. Saying something's worth is saying it's value. Which changes the statement completely. I don't like clickbait thread title.

Actually, I think it is worth more than all of Nintendo currently.

You have to remember than PSN has huge profit margins as everything is done electronically. PS+ alone generates over $1 billion in profit per year while Nintendo only made around $350 million last year. Add up the online sales and the gap would only go up even more.

Like I said, worth is value. If Sony sold PSN, using that money, they would be able to buy all of Nintendo. Is that what you're saying? Because that's what the thread title is implying. Nintendo was valued at 22.2 billion dollars last year. Did Nintendo make that much? No, but that's their worth. Are you getting the keywords I'm using here?

Let's be conservative and say PSN generated $2 billion in profit last year.

A person buying PSN would look at its reasonable profit for 10-15 years. As PS+ subscribers are growing quickly by the year and as more sales are down online, you can expect SONY to top $3 billion in profit soon.

PSN would be worth $20-$30 billion by itself in its current state, which is what Kidtendo is worth right now.

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#31  Edited By raugutcon
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@notafanboy: dude, now you are not only stupid but you can't read, which part of NINTENDO IS WORTH MORE THAN SONY AS A WHOLE is so hard to understand ?

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Excellent Thread!

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@charizard1605 SONY

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#34  Edited By lamprey263
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After Stannis killed his daughter in hopes it'd bring him victory I think he realized it wasn't worth it, he wanted to die when Brianna came to take his life. Nintendo won't be so graceful, they're another a Sega to be, and the'll keep pumping out the Sonic at the expense of other more profitable and sound ideas.

Yeah, I agree with the sentiment that Sony is beefing up the PS4 to stop Nintendo before they even start. Though, part of me suspects it has the dual purpose of helping VR roll out better since vanilla PS4s aren't going to handle it well.

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@i_p_daily said:

@notafanboy: Go away you

You are almost as new as he is..lol

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#36  Edited By lamprey263
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Nintendo could have a huge robust digital marketplace of just their first party content but they're content just releasing a small fraction of it. That and they're commitment to thwarting cross platform rights sharing and I'm resigned to just giving up on their digital ambitions.

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PSN is no where in the same stratosphere as Xbox Live. In fact PSN is a cheap Knock off of Xbox Live with terrible security. Xbox Live is not unstable. A bunch of clowns keep trying to over loading the network and there is a good possibility it's a bunch of Sony fanboys like TC that need to get a life.

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#38 Heil68
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Sony generated $4.3b from Network Sales alone (PSN) in calendar year 2015. Nintendo generated $4.7b from EVERYTHING.

If that's true, even I'm shocked at that.

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The power of getting your customers to bend over, and pay for online.

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#40 lostrib
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how much is nintendo worth?

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#41 MonsieurX
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@lostrib said:

how much is nintendo worth?

About three fiddy

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#42 mjorh
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THAT analogy tho

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So wait...charging for online is a good thing now?

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#44 Shewgenja
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Sony has been making a lot of right moves but this is a click bait title. Nintendo has a lot more market capital as things stand.

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#45  Edited By iandizion713
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@Heil68 said:

Sony generated $4.3b from Network Sales alone (PSN) in calendar year 2015. Nintendo generated $4.7b from EVERYTHING.

If that's true, even I'm shocked at that.

Well, lets do the math. If PS Network had 40 million customers and each paid $40 that year. Wed have a total of 1.6 billion. Wouldnt that be awesome.

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Total domination #SDC.

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How many more buildings will they have to sell to achieve this?

@notafanboy said:
Kidtendo was so confident they would get the upper hand with their meager 1.9 TF NX but then SONY stealthily leaked the 4.2 TF NEO which destroyed any hype the NX had. Kidtendo knows they will lose the war with SONY and are only going with the flow. They will announce the NX at E3 with little fanfare and eventually move to 3rd party.

Can't wait to play Mario on my NEO.

How remember too how well it went for Sony last gen when they had the most powerful console

Um the Xbox 360 was more powerful, the Cell might've been better than the 360 CPU but that's not all that matters in a console. Almost every single multiplat was better on the 360.

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@lostrib said:

how much is nintendo worth?

Nintendo is worth 18.4 billion, the entirety of Sony and all its divisions is worth 17.7 billion...

This thread is moronic.

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@i_p_daily said:

@notafanboy: Go away you

You are almost as new as he is..lol

Maybe, but I'm not an alt, or make stupid click bait threads like that person does.

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@dynamitecop said:
@lostrib said:

how much is nintendo worth?

Nintendo is worth 18.4 billion, the entirety of Sony and all its divisions is worth 17.7 billion...

This thread is moronic.

They're going to need a lot more PS+ subscriptions