PS4 - Incredible engineering

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#1 Posted by BattlefieldFan3 (341 posts) -

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/01/21/youll-never-guess-why-sony-kept-the-ps4s-power-consumption-under-250-watt/

Sony’s engineers were instructed to keep the PS4′s power consumption strictly under 250 watt, and Ootori-san stressed on the importance of that choice. You’d think it was taken to limit the generation of heat, or maybe to simply help us save on our energy bills, but that’s not the primary reason.

Ootori-san explained that 250 watt is the upper limit, by safety regulations, that allows the use of a two prong power cord. By using 250 watt or more the PS4 would have required a three prong power cord, and of course a three pin power inlet on the back of the console. That kind of connector is larger, and would have negatively impacted the miniaturization of the unit.

Every day, I'm impressed at how well designed and thought-out the PS4 is. Why can't Microsoft do this?

#2 Posted by DGM09 (430 posts) -

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

#3 Edited by ConanTheStoner (4462 posts) -

I wish I could constantly get excited over trivial nonsense. In a weird way, I envy you for that.

#4 Posted by uninspiredcup (6515 posts) -

But pc is better.

#5 Posted by Snugenz (11355 posts) -

Nothing about this story is incredible.

#6 Edited by BattlefieldFan3 (341 posts) -

@ConanTheStoner said:

I wish I could constantly get excited over trivial nonsense. In a weird way, I envy you for that.

You think this is trivial?

SONY engineers had a power limit of 250 watt and they still ended up with a much more powerful machine than Microsoft's VCR box. How much power does the Xbone use? 500 watts?

#7 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (5854 posts) -

ROFL!!!! No, this is the cheapest console they ever produced in the whole PS line. They cut corners and used off the shelf parts from tigerdirect.com.

The power cord that you marvel about is no different.

#8 Edited by ConanTheStoner (4462 posts) -

@ConanTheStoner said:

I wish I could constantly get excited over trivial nonsense. In a weird way, I envy you for that.

You think this is trivial?

SONY engineers had a power limit and they still ended up with a much more powerful machine than Microsoft's VCR box.

Oh damn, I didn't quite understand the first time. Well when you put it like that, I'm shocked! Amazed! Dumbfounded! Flabbergasted even!

Thank you Kaz!

#9 Posted by masiisam (5717 posts) -

Thats weird...My iron is 1200 Watts and it's only a two prong...

#10 Posted by Crypt_mx (3925 posts) -

@ConanTheStoner said:

I wish I could constantly get excited over trivial nonsense. In a weird way, I envy you for that.

You think this is trivial?

SONY engineers had a power limit of 250 watt and they still ended up with a much more powerful machine than Microsoft's VCR box. How much power does the Xbone use? 500 watts?

To be fair, the Xbox draws power for the console+kinect while putting out less heat and making less noise than the PS4. That sounds like pretty good engineering to me lol

#11 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38113 posts) -

They held back the power because of the form factor? Doesn't seem all that incredible.

Glad to see it's power efficient anyway, though the long term usage remains to be determined.

#12 Posted by freedomfreak (37962 posts) -

WHOA

#13 Edited by PinkieWinkie (1364 posts) -

@uninspiredcup: yeah, if you have never touched a girl and have no social life.

#14 Edited by Suppaman100 (3507 posts) -

#15 Posted by Heil68 (42461 posts) -

With the PS4 being the most powerful video game console to have ever been created in the history of video games, it is indeed a marvel of engineering, form and function.

#16 Posted by Syn_Valence (1326 posts) -

Supp

How freaking long is this thing YO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#17 Edited by I_can_haz (6387 posts) -

Best GIF I've ever seen posted on SW. Congrats to you sir!

#18 Edited by StormyJoe (4474 posts) -

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/01/21/youll-never-guess-why-sony-kept-the-ps4s-power-consumption-under-250-watt/

Sony’s engineers were instructed to keep the PS4′s power consumption strictly under 250 watt, and Ootori-san stressed on the importance of that choice. You’d think it was taken to limit the generation of heat, or maybe to simply help us save on our energy bills, but that’s not the primary reason.

Ootori-san explained that 250 watt is the upper limit, by safety regulations, that allows the use of a two prong power cord. By using 250 watt or more the PS4 would have required a three prong power cord, and of course a three pin power inlet on the back of the console. That kind of connector is larger, and would have negatively impacted the miniaturization of the unit.

Every day, I'm impressed at how well designed and thought-out the PS4 is. Why can't Microsoft do this?

Blog it, super cow.

#19 Edited by adamosmaki (9340 posts) -

yeah i highly doubt that is the main reason the try to held power under 250W when they were designing the console ( let alone i have devices with 2 prong that are more than 250W )

#20 Posted by V3rciS (2207 posts) -

@BattlefieldFan3:

Why would you have a BattlefieldFan name? It's like the same with having a "Callofdutyfan" name.







#21 Edited by Shielder7 (4432 posts) -

PS4 using a three prong power cord wouldn't have bothered me in the least, in fact they're usually better made.

#22 Edited by gago-gago (9079 posts) -

Sony makes nice hardware but software/OS wise they still have a long way to go.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-bug-corrupting-save-files/1100-6417240/

PS4 bug corrupting save files.

#23 Posted by leandrro (655 posts) -

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/01/21/youll-never-guess-why-sony-kept-the-ps4s-power-consumption-under-250-watt/

Sony’s engineers were instructed to keep the PS4′s power consumption strictly under 250 watt, and Ootori-san stressed on the importance of that choice. You’d think it was taken to limit the generation of heat, or maybe to simply help us save on our energy bills, but that’s not the primary reason.

Ootori-san explained that 250 watt is the upper limit, by safety regulations, that allows the use of a two prong power cord. By using 250 watt or more the PS4 would have required a three prong power cord, and of course a three pin power inlet on the back of the console. That kind of connector is larger, and would have negatively impacted the miniaturization of the unit.

Every day, I'm impressed at how well designed and thought-out the PS4 is. Why can't Microsoft do this?

im glad my PC has the same gpu as PS4 but instead it is not underclocked, has all the CUs enabled and consumes 300W, i want my games performance not a tiny pretty case

#24 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (8083 posts) -

Why I knew it'd be Battlefield Fan 3 thread ?

#25 Posted by CrownKingArthur (3495 posts) -

i don't understand. because

yeah i highly doubt that is the main reason the try to held power under 250W when they were designing the console ( let alone i have devices with 2 prong that are more than 250W )

yeah because of this kind of stuff. i have loads of devices over 250 watt which don't require an earth.

#26 Posted by Tessellation (8791 posts) -

another butthurt bandodger thread.

#27 Posted by osirisx3 (1672 posts) -

the low clock speeds and tablet cpu is how they pulled it off.

#28 Posted by Ghost120x (3604 posts) -

BattlefieldFan3- Incredible trolling

/not

#29 Posted by MonsieurX (28427 posts) -

Better question :why can't you do a good thread?

#30 Edited by Netret0120 (1854 posts) -

Waiting for the ps4 slim

#31 Posted by MrXboxOne (742 posts) -

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/01/21/youll-never-guess-why-sony-kept-the-ps4s-power-consumption-under-250-watt/

Sony’s engineers were instructed to keep the PS4′s power consumption strictly under 250 watt, and Ootori-san stressed on the importance of that choice. You’d think it was taken to limit the generation of heat, or maybe to simply help us save on our energy bills, but that’s not the primary reason.

Ootori-san explained that 250 watt is the upper limit, by safety regulations, that allows the use of a two prong power cord. By using 250 watt or more the PS4 would have required a three prong power cord, and of course a three pin power inlet on the back of the console. That kind of connector is larger, and would have negatively impacted the miniaturization of the unit.

Every day, I'm impressed at how well designed and thought-out the PS4 is. Why can't Microsoft do this?

So amazing it corrupts save files lol

#32 Edited by Chozofication (2668 posts) -

It's not that the ps4 is incredibly engineered, just that the Xbone is incredibly badly engineered...

The gamecube was incredibly engineered.

#33 Edited by donalbane (16124 posts) -

It essentially a tablet APU wrapped in a console packaging. If you want to see a technical marvel, look at the tablet technology that the new consoles are based on.

#34 Posted by Crypt_mx (3925 posts) -

It's not that the ps4 is incredibly engineered, just that the Xbone is incredibly badly engineered...

The gamecube was incredibly engineered.

Contrary to popular belief, the X1 is not badly engineered. Whether or not you personally like the console or the way it looks is one thing, but any person who understands engineering understands that the X1 is designed with efficiency in mind.

The X1's cooling design is actually the best way to cool something. The X1 draws in are from both sides and the back, the air is then pushed directly up through the large desktop-like fan that ventilates through the top of the console. They have great airflow coming into a strong fan that is pointed up, and since hot air rises that's ideal. This is what makes the X1 quieter and cooler than the PS4.

That's not to knock the PS4's engineering though, as they did do a very good job considering their small form factor.

At the end of the day, the X1 was meant to be an always online, always running console. They didn't want a RROD all over again and so they chose the simplest and most effective method.

#35 Posted by Martin_G_N (1682 posts) -

@Crypt_mx: There is one problem with that airflow design though. If the machine is in a TV bench, wich most people will, the heat going out the top won't be ideal. The best and safest way is blowing the heat out the sides or back, since it's more likely people will put things on top of the console or having it in a small TV bench with no overhead.

#36 Posted by g0ddyX (3865 posts) -

I think X1 and PS4 are both engineering feats.

#37 Edited by lundy86_4 (42541 posts) -

Keep spoiling us, Sony!

#38 Edited by Tommi88 (724 posts) -

i like the Xbox 360 and the Xbox One controller the best! :)

#39 Edited by clr84651 (5269 posts) -

@DGM09 said:

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

It doesn't wobble unless you make it. Therefore it doesn't.

#40 Posted by Snugenz (11355 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

@DGM09 said:

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

It doesn't wobble unless you make it. Therefore it doesn't.

It can wobble therefore it does wobble.

#41 Edited by clr84651 (5269 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

@clr84651 said:

@DGM09 said:

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

It doesn't wobble unless you make it. Therefore it doesn't.

It can wobble therefore it does wobble.

I've never wobbled my 2. I only saw them do it on a video. They sit in place & don't move. They don't wobble.

#42 Posted by darkangel115 (1333 posts) -

if its so incredible why does it wobble and why does the vertical stand make the fan blow directly into the surface its on? this thread is dumb

#43 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (2638 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

@clr84651 said:

@DGM09 said:

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

It doesn't wobble unless you make it. Therefore it doesn't.

It can wobble therefore it does wobble.

but it don't fall down

#44 Posted by PannicAtack (20837 posts) -

Too bad there are barely any worthwhile games for it.

#45 Posted by Snugenz (11355 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

@Snugenz said:

@clr84651 said:

@DGM09 said:

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

It doesn't wobble unless you make it. Therefore it doesn't.

It can wobble therefore it does wobble.

I've never wobbled my 2. I only saw them do it on a video. They sit in place & don't move. They don't wobble.

My Xbox 360 never RROD'd. They don't RROD... wait a minute...

#46 Posted by clr84651 (5269 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

@clr84651 said:

@Snugenz said:

@clr84651 said:

@DGM09 said:

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

It doesn't wobble unless you make it. Therefore it doesn't.

It can wobble therefore it does wobble.

I've never wobbled my 2. I only saw them do it on a video. They sit in place & don't move. They don't wobble.

My Xbox 360 never RROD'd. They don't RROD... wait a minute...

No, I'm serious. There's a rubber piece on the bottom in the middle that flattens down after the PS4 sits for about a week. The wobble is very temporary & only if you make it. My 2 don't wobble at all. I can't even force them.

#47 Edited by clr84651 (5269 posts) -

Too bad there are barely any worthwhile games for it.

Same goes for the X1.

#48 Posted by Snugenz (11355 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

@Snugenz said:

@clr84651 said:

@Snugenz said:

@clr84651 said:

@DGM09 said:

I guess they took the watts from the rubber feet and that's why it wobbles.

It doesn't wobble unless you make it. Therefore it doesn't.

It can wobble therefore it does wobble.

I've never wobbled my 2. I only saw them do it on a video. They sit in place & don't move. They don't wobble.

My Xbox 360 never RROD'd. They don't RROD... wait a minute...

No, I'm serious. There's a rubber piece on the bottom in the middle that flattens down after the PS4 sits for about a week. The wobble is very temporary & only if you make it. My 2 don't wobble at all. I can't even force them.

I'm serious aswell, my PS4 wobbles, it's not an issue at all but it does in fact wobble.

#49 Posted by senses_fail_06 (6735 posts) -

Simply stunning.

#50 Edited by MiiiiV (208 posts) -

Ps4 is a great game console, it's the most powerful game console this gen but performance wise it's nothing special compared to todays gaming PCs. Heck, a hi-end pc (dual GPUs) from 2010 outperforms the ps4. That has never happen before, that a game console is outperformed by a 3 year older pc. I think the ps4 will have an amazing game library in the future and that's all that counts, but I wouldn't use the word "incredible" about it's hardware.