PS4 increasing its lead over XBONE worldwide; 9M vs 5M

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#51 Posted by Shielder7 (5152 posts) -

i think you should be more careful dude, if the lead decreases by even a couple of thousand units

A couple of thousand units is nothing and will go completely unnoticed.

#52 Posted by Floppy_Jim (25644 posts) -

@Floppy_Jim said:

If nothing else, the PS4 Destiny bundle by itself will counter the Tier 2 Xbone launches. They are "Tier 2" for a good reason. I encourage him to rub it in if he's right and I'm wrong though.

We can't allow that to happen Jim (star trekkin across the universe...) he would become insufferable,lol

it's worse than that he's dead Jim....

After all this time I now know what this reference is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0yXqU-w9U0

#53 Edited by delta3074 (18093 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

@Floppy_Jim said:

If nothing else, the PS4 Destiny bundle by itself will counter the Tier 2 Xbone launches. They are "Tier 2" for a good reason. I encourage him to rub it in if he's right and I'm wrong though.

We can't allow that to happen Jim (star trekkin across the universe...) he would become insufferable,lol

it's worse than that he's dead Jim....

After all this time I now know what this reference is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0yXqU-w9U0

Awesome sauce, heres your prize

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZS2-4-iUJ4

#54 Posted by delta3074 (18093 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

i think you should be more careful dude, if the lead decreases by even a couple of thousand units

A couple of thousand units is nothing and will go completely unnoticed.

'He' will notice, trust me,lol

#55 Posted by HalcyonScarlet (4223 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:

Kinda sad both consoles selling that much without any relevant games

Really? Gen7 lasted how long? Why would anyone not want a Gen8 console even if just for the multiplats at this point?

It's much smarter to wait out the first year or so. Why buy a new console for multiplats most of which are not even significantly better right now?

#56 Posted by Shewgenja (8774 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

@MonsieurX said:

Kinda sad both consoles selling that much without any relevant games

Really? Gen7 lasted how long? Why would anyone not want a Gen8 console even if just for the multiplats at this point?

It's much smarter to wait out the first year or so. Why buy a new console for multiplats most of which are not even significantly better right now?

I can understand that argument. I mean, it's a good one to make, but I think that people who splashed 1200 or more on a 1080p TV last gen aren't flinching at the prospect of a $400 upgrade to getting actual 1080p graphics more consistently. Like, in the case of Madden Football, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed and etc casual crowd there's really nothing keeping them on Gen 7 consoles. That's a pretty huge portion of console buyers right there. Now that Gran Turismo 6 and Dark Souls II are said and done, all the big stuff is going Gen 8 like Destiny and even GTAV.

I think it's more of a snowball effect than anything else. The cross-plat gamers leaped to PS4 along with core gamers. At E3, clearly the industry itself wants to catch up with Gen 8s fast start and now people are trickling in sooner rather than later. XBox 360 had a not-quite-stellar first year but for a relatively unproven brand it dinged the 10 million unit mark pretty much on time. The PS3, however, took how long to get down to $400? All the growth of three or four price drops last gen are present and accounted for on Day 1 of Gen 8 when you think about it and that is a whole lot of core and casual gamers.

It's honestly little wonder why a PS4 shipped is for all practical purposes a PS4 sold. Gen 8's library isn't spectacular but people have been prattling on and on and on about resolution and frame rates for so many years that a $400 console that turns that to a moot point for what games it has shows immediate value to ... well.. millions and millions of gamers. Pretty much everything to a T that created a shit storm amongst gamers, even the price, is a non issue here.

#57 Edited by WallofTruth (1574 posts) -

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@blackace said:
@ghostwarrior786 said:

Once the ps4 exclusive no mans sky releases the lead is only going to increase.

Once the XB1 launches in those other 33 countries including China and Japan, that lead is going to decrease. Then it will decrease again after Halo: MCC is released. No Man Sky doesn't even have a release date yet. You may not see that game until 2016 since they only have like 3 people working on it. If anything LBP or Drive Club bundles at $399 would move more PS4's.

Brah ms cant even speak chinese, how the hell are they going to sell consoles over there? I conducted a survey in my college and can conclude no mans sky will indeed outsell halo, by 2018, if my estimations are correct, it would have outsold the entitre halo franchise. The success of godstation4 is going to propell this game to heights only jesus has reached.

@xhawk27 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

Once the ps4 exclusive no mans sky releases the lead is only going to increase.

So after a year maybe the devs port it over to the Xbox One. Did you not hear it's coming to the PC too.

Pc isnt powerful enough to handle the game, x1 maybe if it embraced the power of the cloud on a really stormy day it may handle it but ps4 will have definitive version so its pretty much an exclusive

9/10, good entertaining troll post, lol'd.

#58 Posted by clr84651 (5405 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

Once the ps4 exclusive no mans sky releases the lead is only going to increase.

So after a year maybe the devs port it over to the Xbox One. Did you not hear it's coming to the PC too.

Downplaying the significant damage it's going to do.

#59 Posted by lostrib (35764 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

@xhawk27 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

Once the ps4 exclusive no mans sky releases the lead is only going to increase.

So after a year maybe the devs port it over to the Xbox One. Did you not hear it's coming to the PC too.

Downplaying the significant damage it's going to do.

what significant damage?

#60 Posted by shadiezz2012 (2569 posts) -

Lems DC is one of the few things that bring me back to this place

#61 Edited by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

Lems DC is one of the few things that bring me back to this place

Same here. It was always nice to drink their tears and witness the funny new damage control excuses they come up with.

#62 Edited by Master_Of_Fools (1346 posts) -

@super600: Nope. Starfox is an untapped well, waiting to explode. The passion for a new Starfox game has been brewing and building up for 9 years. Will be a whole decade when it comes out next year. You can continue to believe whatever you want. I shall do the same and that is that.

#63 Posted by picklesurprise (178 posts) -

I don't understand why anyone is buying either of them.

Yeah let me go throw $400+ dollars down the drain for a box that can't even play 1080p games half the time, all the exclusives out are all mediocre at best, and all of the 3rd party games can be played on last gen systems.

OHHH BUT TEH INDIE GAMEZZ

#64 Posted by super600 (30511 posts) -

@super600: Nope. Starfox is an untapped well, waiting to explode. The passion for a new Starfox game has been brewing and building up for 9 years. Will be a whole decade when it comes out next year. You can continue to believe whatever you want. I shall do the same and that is that.

There is no chance of starfox selling 20 million WiiU's. The franchise in the past has only ever sold around a couple of million or barely over a million.

#65 Posted by SaltyMeatballs (25150 posts) -

The war is over, everyone jump onto the winning side.

#66 Posted by Master_Of_Fools (1346 posts) -

@super600: Irrelavant. Donkey Kong never sold well in the past, then DKCR on the Wii sold very well, Fire Emblem never sold well then Fire Emblem Awakening sold well on the 3DS. Starfox will be the same thing. You bring a game back from the past and it explodes. Much like if Sony brought back Spyro or Crash Bandicoot it would sell well. once again, accept that fact that I will not ever change my mind no matter what filth you wish to say. Accept that and move on with your life.

#67 Edited by tonitorsi (8327 posts) -

The results of of actually having the ability to read a market.

#68 Edited by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

@picklesurprise said:

I don't understand why anyone is buying either of them.

Yeah let me go throw $400+ dollars down the drain for a box that can't even play 1080p games half the time, all the exclusives out are all mediocre at best, and all of the 3rd party games can be played on last gen systems.

OHHH BUT TEH INDIE GAMEZZ

As this IGN list shows only 3 out of the 50 or so games released on PS4 run at less than 1080p: STOP SPREADING BULLSHIT LIES.

Last time I checked 3 out of 50 is 6% not the whopping "half the time" or 50% number you pulled from your ass. There is a console that does fill the 900p and 720p need half the time though, it's called the XPOSBone.

#69 Posted by coasterguy65 (5922 posts) -

How does anyone know the exact number of PS4s sold? Sony seems to be back to combining sales for their consoles. Last numbers I saw showed both PS3 and PS4 numbers combined. Why? Is the PS4 not selling what they expected?

Also no way to compare them to Xbox since there has been no non combined numbers from MS for a while either. They seem to only be combining the 360 and Xbone numbers now. So I'm going to guess that people are just making up their own numbers, based on what they assume sold? Semi-educated guesses? Otherwise, are there any links to non combined official numbers?

#70 Edited by tonitorsi (8327 posts) -

@coasterguy65 said:

How does anyone know the exact number of PS4s sold? Sony seems to be back to combining sales for their consoles. Last numbers I saw showed both PS3 and PS4 numbers combined. Why? Is the PS4 not selling what they expected?

Gaf made a summary of more or less the exact shipments of the PS4 so far with the recent fiscal year information and the end result was PS4 being at almost 10 million shipped. Wether Sony clarifies those are entirely sold to customers, shipped or somewhere in-between, its ultimately up to them.

They're probably waiting for rounder/bigger numbers to unleash at Gamescon. Which is probably the reason why they haven't released any exact numbers since April.

And if the number ends up being 10 million, well, let's say that pretty massive considering holidays and their biggest bundle deals (Destiny/GTA 5) aren't even out yet.

#71 Edited by KungfuKitten (20963 posts) -

@Randolph said:

So not that much longer till Xbone passes Wii U, and takes away one of Nintendo's last talking points that tries to give their failed console relevance. "It hasn't failed, Wii U is in second place!!". I hope this humbling teaches Nintendo a lesson that helps them return to the glory days of the NES and SNES. I miss that Nintendo.

Nintendo is still that Nintendo, the market has just changed. If you want them to dominate the console market by making good games, that just doesn't happen. And the good 3rd party support only happens when you pay them the most. The Nintendo that has it all is just impossible in today's market, and there's no lesson that Nintendo can learn that would change that.
Meanwhile Sony and MS are turning their machines into subpar PC's with hardly any exclusives. A platform with decent exclusives can't become irrelevant, the PS4 and Xone can. And that is what the media, in spite of their anti-Nintendo agenda, is now realizing. Why buy a PS4 or Xone? Nobody really knows.

#72 Posted by tormentos (17668 posts) -

How does anyone know the exact number of PS4s sold? Sony seems to be back to combining sales for their consoles. Last numbers I saw showed both PS3 and PS4 numbers combined. Why? Is the PS4 not selling what they expected?

Also no way to compare them to Xbox since there has been no non combined numbers from MS for a while either. They seem to only be combining the 360 and Xbone numbers now. So I'm going to guess that people are just making up their own numbers, based on what they assume sold? Semi-educated guesses? Otherwise, are there any links to non combined official numbers?

The numbers are join because that way they look better to investors,this report isn't for you neither is MS last one,the PS3 sales are under performing,it wasn't the PS4 the one that under perform,in fact it is estimated than 800k are PS3 the rest PS4,so yeah that mean 2.6 or 2.7 million PS4 on top of the 7 million sold by April,which mean the PS4 is very close to 10 millions now.

3.5 >>>>> 1.1 by more than 3 to 1,but between the xbox one and PS4 it was like 5 to 1 this pass quarter,the xbox one is estimate to have ship 400k to 500k the majority were xbox 360,contrary to sony which it is estimated that 800k were PS3 while 2.6 to 2.7 million were PS4,remember that MS By march 31 had shipped 5 million units but from those 5 it was estimated that 1 million was still on stores and that stores were saturate.

In fact a report came from MS that they would stop shipments or cut them to allow for the one on store to move,which explain why the shipments where so low,and believe me they are to low,the xbox 360 in 2006 same time frame alone shipped 1.8 million,MS shipped 1.1 million this quarter and where combined with xbox one and xbox 360.

No matter how you slice it even if half the shipments where PS4 that number would still beat MS xbox + xbox 360 numbers combined,the relevant part is the 3.5 million vs 1.1 million it was a destruction.

#73 Posted by coasterguy65 (5922 posts) -

@coasterguy65 said:

How does anyone know the exact number of PS4s sold? Sony seems to be back to combining sales for their consoles. Last numbers I saw showed both PS3 and PS4 numbers combined. Why? Is the PS4 not selling what they expected?

Also no way to compare them to Xbox since there has been no non combined numbers from MS for a while either. They seem to only be combining the 360 and Xbone numbers now. So I'm going to guess that people are just making up their own numbers, based on what they assume sold? Semi-educated guesses? Otherwise, are there any links to non combined official numbers?

The numbers are join because that way they look better to investors,this report isn't for you neither is MS last one,the PS3 sales are under performing,it wasn't the PS4 the one that under perform,in fact it is estimated than 800k are PS3 the rest PS4,so yeah that mean 2.6 or 2.7 million PS4 on top of the 7 million sold by April,which mean the PS4 is very close to 10 millions now.

3.5 >>>>> 1.1 by more than 3 to 1,but between the xbox one and PS4 it was like 5 to 1 this pass quarter,the xbox one is estimate to have ship 400k to 500k the majority were xbox 360,contrary to sony which it is estimated that 800k were PS3 while 2.6 to 2.7 million were PS4,remember that MS By march 31 had shipped 5 million units but from those 5 it was estimated that 1 million was still on stores and that stores were saturate.

In fact a report came from MS that they would stop shipments or cut them to allow for the one on store to move,which explain why the shipments where so low,and believe me they are to low,the xbox 360 in 2006 same time frame alone shipped 1.8 million,MS shipped 1.1 million this quarter and where combined with xbox one and xbox 360.

No matter how you slice it even if half the shipments where PS4 that number would still beat MS xbox + xbox 360 numbers combined,the relevant part is the 3.5 million vs 1.1 million it was a destruction.

So you are speculating on what you think the PS4 and Xbone sold then, correct? Any links for non-combined official sales from either Sony or MS?

#74 Posted by picklesurprise (178 posts) -

@picklesurprise said:

I don't understand why anyone is buying either of them.

Yeah let me go throw $400+ dollars down the drain for a box that can't even play 1080p games half the time, all the exclusives out are all mediocre at best, and all of the 3rd party games can be played on last gen systems.

OHHH BUT TEH INDIE GAMEZZ

As this IGN list shows only 3 out of the 50 or so games released on PS4 run at less than 1080p: STOP SPREADING BULLSHIT LIES.

Last time I checked 3 out of 50 is 6% not the whopping "half the time" or 50% number you pulled from your ass. There is a console that does fill the 900p and 720p need half the time though, it's called the XPOSBone.

IGN is bias and doesn't count.

#75 Edited by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

@picklesurprise: Yea, they are biased because some ignorant fanboy on the internet said so....GTFO.

#76 Posted by tormentos (17668 posts) -

So you are speculating on what you think the PS4 and Xbone sold then, correct? Any links for non-combined official sales from either Sony or MS?

No..

But if you want to pretend that sony is hiding PS4 numbers rather than PS3 ones be my guess soon you will learn the hard way how right i was.

#77 Edited by CrownKingArthur (4642 posts) -

eh

#78 Edited by bforrester420 (1445 posts) -

@blackace said:
@ghostwarrior786 said:

Once the ps4 exclusive no mans sky releases the lead is only going to increase.

Once the XB1 launches in those other 33 countries including China and Japan, that lead is going to decrease. Then it will decrease again after Halo: MCC is released. No Man Sky doesn't even have a release date yet. You may not see that game until 2016 since they only have like 3 people working on it. If anything LBP or Drive Club bundles at $399 would move more PS4's.

LMAO. Man, you're f*cking dense sometimes...XB1 will sell like wild in Japan...lmao...

#79 Posted by picklesurprise (178 posts) -

@picklesurprise: Yea, they are biased because some ignorant fanboy on the internet said so....GTFO.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/06/california-man-sues-sony-over-killzone-shadow-fall?read

I'm the guy suing Sony btw.

#80 Edited by _SWAG_ (2586 posts) -

lulz xbone is dead nuthin they do will help one bit. the ps4 is too good n peeps knows this. peeps trust in sony products not m$ products. after xbox is gone m$ as a company will die imho facts

#81 Posted by nutcrackr (12521 posts) -

ouch, and no japan will not save xbone. Japanese gamers love the new pokemon and the 3DS. PS4 is even doing bad in Japan.

That's a mighty lead so early in the gen.

#82 Edited by OhSnapitz (18310 posts) -

..and still has worse software. hmmm.

#83 Edited by MBirdy88 (8024 posts) -

@Randolph said:

So not that much longer till Xbone passes Wii U, and takes away one of Nintendo's last talking points that tries to give their failed console relevance. "It hasn't failed, Wii U is in second place!!". I hope this humbling teaches Nintendo a lesson that helps them return to the glory days of the NES and SNES. I miss that Nintendo.

will probably still have better exclusives than Xbox 1 and a better compliment to PC or PS4.

#84 Posted by SecretPolice (21733 posts) -

Phfft, a 4 mil lead will evaporate by mid 2015 latest heck, X1 will likely outsell PS4 by that much during Christmas 2014 :o Just wait, like greatness awaits. :P

#85 Posted by musicalmac (22967 posts) -

What have people been playing on the new consoles? Have any other games been released?

#86 Posted by SecretPolice (21733 posts) -

@musicalmac:

Playing new console sales on SW is like 90 on metacritic these days - good times. :P

#87 Posted by musicalmac (22967 posts) -

@musicalmac:

Playing new console sales on SW is like 90 on metacritic these days - good times. :P

Seriously, though. I think it may be thead-worthy.

#88 Posted by clone01 (24645 posts) -

Salezzzzzz Warzzzzzzzzz. So f*cking stupid.

#89 Posted by SecretPolice (21733 posts) -

@SecretPolice said:

@musicalmac:

Playing new console sales on SW is like 90 on metacritic these days - good times. :P

Seriously, though. I think it may be thead-worthy.

Okay seriously, I agree but you make it please and I'll post in it... I just rarely / never start threads these days. :)

#90 Posted by clyde46 (45962 posts) -

What have people been playing on the new consoles? Have any other games been released?

Games? For the 8th gen? Bahahahahahaha.

#91 Edited by lglz1337 (3418 posts) -

Xposbone will be 3rd or maybe 2nd this gen leave the 1st place too the king playstation!

Xbox brand will always be the 2nd or 3rd rated console

#92 Posted by musicalmac (22967 posts) -

@SecretPolice: I almost did. Still pondering. There are 1,844 results for PC games released between the PS4 release date and a month out from now for PC, and neither the PS4 nor the Xbox One crack 100 results...

@clyde46: Seriously. What are people doing with the console? Playing old games or indie games or remakes? It's baffling how few big originals have dropped.

#93 Posted by clyde46 (45962 posts) -

@musicalmac: Makes me wonder why I even bought a PS4.

#94 Posted by Heil68 (43939 posts) -

I told you..PS4 is on a ROLL. Damn, running away with gen 8 it seems.

#95 Edited by musicalmac (22967 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@musicalmac: Makes me wonder why I even bought a PS4.

I'd be wondering that, too. The PS3 is a better deal, at least it has a really good blu-ray player.

#96 Posted by clyde46 (45962 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@musicalmac: Makes me wonder why I even bought a PS4.

I'd be wondering that, too. The PS3 is a better deal, at least it has a really good blu-ray player.

I bought my PS3 after I bought my PS4 :P

#97 Edited by Legend002 (7087 posts) -

I don't really see a reason to own an Xbox One at this point especially when there are better options. The exclusives on it are most likely going to head to PC at some point and the hardware is by far inferior to their competitor at the same MSRP.

#98 Posted by scoots9 (3194 posts) -
@Randolph said:

So not that much longer till Xbone passes Wii U, and takes away one of Nintendo's last talking points that tries to give their failed console relevance. "It hasn't failed, Wii U is in second place!!". I hope this humbling teaches Nintendo a lesson that helps them return to the glory days of the NES and SNES. I miss that Nintendo.

What makes you think that? The gap has been slowly widening since MK8 came out, and before that (outside of November/December) it wasn't closing very quickly. If the Xbone passes the Wii U, it's going to take a while.

#99 Posted by Mickael (43 posts) -

@-Damien-: MORE than double. Microsoft only gives the amount of consoles SHIPPED. Sony gives the amount of consoles SOLD.

It's safe to say that there's at least 1 million of those xbone's that's still on the shelf.

#100 Edited by Sollet (7360 posts) -

@blackace said:
@ghostwarrior786 said:

Once the ps4 exclusive no mans sky releases the lead is only going to increase.

Once the XB1 launches in those other 33 countries including China and Japan, that lead is going to decrease. Then it will decrease again after Halo: MCC is released. No Man Sky doesn't even have a release date yet. You may not see that game until 2016 since they only have like 3 people working on it. If anything LBP or Drive Club bundles at $399 would move more PS4's.