i think you should be more careful dude, if the lead decreases by even a couple of thousand units
A couple of thousand units is nothing and will go completely unnoticed.
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If nothing else, the PS4 Destiny bundle by itself will counter the Tier 2 Xbone launches. They are "Tier 2" for a good reason. I encourage him to rub it in if he's right and I'm wrong though.
We can't allow that to happen Jim (star trekkin across the universe...) he would become insufferable,lol
it's worse than that he's dead Jim....
After all this time I now know what this reference is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0yXqU-w9U0
If nothing else, the PS4 Destiny bundle by itself will counter the Tier 2 Xbone launches. They are "Tier 2" for a good reason. I encourage him to rub it in if he's right and I'm wrong though.
We can't allow that to happen Jim (star trekkin across the universe...) he would become insufferable,lol
it's worse than that he's dead Jim....
After all this time I now know what this reference is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0yXqU-w9U0
Awesome sauce, heres your prize
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZS2-4-iUJ4
Kinda sad both consoles selling that much without any relevant games
Really? Gen7 lasted how long? Why would anyone not want a Gen8 console even if just for the multiplats at this point?
It's much smarter to wait out the first year or so. Why buy a new console for multiplats most of which are not even significantly better right now?
Kinda sad both consoles selling that much without any relevant games
Really? Gen7 lasted how long? Why would anyone not want a Gen8 console even if just for the multiplats at this point?
It's much smarter to wait out the first year or so. Why buy a new console for multiplats most of which are not even significantly better right now?
I can understand that argument. I mean, it's a good one to make, but I think that people who splashed 1200 or more on a 1080p TV last gen aren't flinching at the prospect of a $400 upgrade to getting actual 1080p graphics more consistently. Like, in the case of Madden Football, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed and etc casual crowd there's really nothing keeping them on Gen 7 consoles. That's a pretty huge portion of console buyers right there. Now that Gran Turismo 6 and Dark Souls II are said and done, all the big stuff is going Gen 8 like Destiny and even GTAV.
I think it's more of a snowball effect than anything else. The cross-plat gamers leaped to PS4 along with core gamers. At E3, clearly the industry itself wants to catch up with Gen 8s fast start and now people are trickling in sooner rather than later. XBox 360 had a not-quite-stellar first year but for a relatively unproven brand it dinged the 10 million unit mark pretty much on time. The PS3, however, took how long to get down to $400? All the growth of three or four price drops last gen are present and accounted for on Day 1 of Gen 8 when you think about it and that is a whole lot of core and casual gamers.
It's honestly little wonder why a PS4 shipped is for all practical purposes a PS4 sold. Gen 8's library isn't spectacular but people have been prattling on and on and on about resolution and frame rates for so many years that a $400 console that turns that to a moot point for what games it has shows immediate value to ... well.. millions and millions of gamers. Pretty much everything to a T that created a shit storm amongst gamers, even the price, is a non issue here.
Once the ps4 exclusive no mans sky releases the lead is only going to increase.
So after a year maybe the devs port it over to the Xbox One. Did you not hear it's coming to the PC too.
Downplaying the significant damage it's going to do.
Once the ps4 exclusive no mans sky releases the lead is only going to increase.
So after a year maybe the devs port it over to the Xbox One. Did you not hear it's coming to the PC too.
Downplaying the significant damage it's going to do.
what significant damage?
@super600: Nope. Starfox is an untapped well, waiting to explode. The passion for a new Starfox game has been brewing and building up for 9 years. Will be a whole decade when it comes out next year. You can continue to believe whatever you want. I shall do the same and that is that.
I don't understand why anyone is buying either of them.
Yeah let me go throw $400+ dollars down the drain for a box that can't even play 1080p games half the time, all the exclusives out are all mediocre at best, and all of the 3rd party games can be played on last gen systems.
OHHH BUT TEH INDIE GAMEZZ
@super600: Nope. Starfox is an untapped well, waiting to explode. The passion for a new Starfox game has been brewing and building up for 9 years. Will be a whole decade when it comes out next year. You can continue to believe whatever you want. I shall do the same and that is that.
There is no chance of starfox selling 20 million WiiU's. The franchise in the past has only ever sold around a couple of million or barely over a million.
@super600: Irrelavant. Donkey Kong never sold well in the past, then DKCR on the Wii sold very well, Fire Emblem never sold well then Fire Emblem Awakening sold well on the 3DS. Starfox will be the same thing. You bring a game back from the past and it explodes. Much like if Sony brought back Spyro or Crash Bandicoot it would sell well. once again, accept that fact that I will not ever change my mind no matter what filth you wish to say. Accept that and move on with your life.
I don't understand why anyone is buying either of them.
Yeah let me go throw $400+ dollars down the drain for a box that can't even play 1080p games half the time, all the exclusives out are all mediocre at best, and all of the 3rd party games can be played on last gen systems.
OHHH BUT TEH INDIE GAMEZZ
As this IGN list shows only 3 out of the 50 or so games released on PS4 run at less than 1080p: STOP SPREADING BULLSHIT LIES.
Last time I checked 3 out of 50 is 6% not the whopping "half the time" or 50% number you pulled from your ass. There is a console that does fill the 900p and 720p need half the time though, it's called the XPOSBone.
How does anyone know the exact number of PS4s sold? Sony seems to be back to combining sales for their consoles. Last numbers I saw showed both PS3 and PS4 numbers combined. Why? Is the PS4 not selling what they expected?
Also no way to compare them to Xbox since there has been no non combined numbers from MS for a while either. They seem to only be combining the 360 and Xbone numbers now. So I'm going to guess that people are just making up their own numbers, based on what they assume sold? Semi-educated guesses? Otherwise, are there any links to non combined official numbers?
How does anyone know the exact number of PS4s sold? Sony seems to be back to combining sales for their consoles. Last numbers I saw showed both PS3 and PS4 numbers combined. Why? Is the PS4 not selling what they expected?
Gaf made a summary of more or less the exact shipments of the PS4 so far with the recent fiscal year information and the end result was PS4 being at almost 10 million shipped. Wether Sony clarifies those are entirely sold to customers, shipped or somewhere in-between, its ultimately up to them.
They're probably waiting for rounder/bigger numbers to unleash at Gamescon. Which is probably the reason why they haven't released any exact numbers since April.
And if the number ends up being 10 million, well, let's say that pretty massive considering holidays and their biggest bundle deals (Destiny/GTA 5) aren't even out yet.
So not that much longer till Xbone passes Wii U, and takes away one of Nintendo's last talking points that tries to give their failed console relevance. "It hasn't failed, Wii U is in second place!!". I hope this humbling teaches Nintendo a lesson that helps them return to the glory days of the NES and SNES. I miss that Nintendo.
Nintendo is still that Nintendo, the market has just changed. If you want them to dominate the console market by making good games, that just doesn't happen. And the good 3rd party support only happens when you pay them the most. The Nintendo that has it all is just impossible in today's market, and there's no lesson that Nintendo can learn that would change that.
Meanwhile Sony and MS are turning their machines into subpar PC's with hardly any exclusives. A platform with decent exclusives can't become irrelevant, the PS4 and Xone can. And that is what the media, in spite of their anti-Nintendo agenda, is now realizing. Why buy a PS4 or Xone? Nobody really knows.
How does anyone know the exact number of PS4s sold? Sony seems to be back to combining sales for their consoles. Last numbers I saw showed both PS3 and PS4 numbers combined. Why? Is the PS4 not selling what they expected?
Also no way to compare them to Xbox since there has been no non combined numbers from MS for a while either. They seem to only be combining the 360 and Xbone numbers now. So I'm going to guess that people are just making up their own numbers, based on what they assume sold? Semi-educated guesses? Otherwise, are there any links to non combined official numbers?
The numbers are join because that way they look better to investors,this report isn't for you neither is MS last one,the PS3 sales are under performing,it wasn't the PS4 the one that under perform,in fact it is estimated than 800k are PS3 the rest PS4,so yeah that mean 2.6 or 2.7 million PS4 on top of the 7 million sold by April,which mean the PS4 is very close to 10 millions now.
3.5 >>>>> 1.1 by more than 3 to 1,but between the xbox one and PS4 it was like 5 to 1 this pass quarter,the xbox one is estimate to have ship 400k to 500k the majority were xbox 360,contrary to sony which it is estimated that 800k were PS3 while 2.6 to 2.7 million were PS4,remember that MS By march 31 had shipped 5 million units but from those 5 it was estimated that 1 million was still on stores and that stores were saturate.
In fact a report came from MS that they would stop shipments or cut them to allow for the one on store to move,which explain why the shipments where so low,and believe me they are to low,the xbox 360 in 2006 same time frame alone shipped 1.8 million,MS shipped 1.1 million this quarter and where combined with xbox one and xbox 360.
No matter how you slice it even if half the shipments where PS4 that number would still beat MS xbox + xbox 360 numbers combined,the relevant part is the 3.5 million vs 1.1 million it was a destruction.
How does anyone know the exact number of PS4s sold? Sony seems to be back to combining sales for their consoles. Last numbers I saw showed both PS3 and PS4 numbers combined. Why? Is the PS4 not selling what they expected?
Also no way to compare them to Xbox since there has been no non combined numbers from MS for a while either. They seem to only be combining the 360 and Xbone numbers now. So I'm going to guess that people are just making up their own numbers, based on what they assume sold? Semi-educated guesses? Otherwise, are there any links to non combined official numbers?
The numbers are join because that way they look better to investors,this report isn't for you neither is MS last one,the PS3 sales are under performing,it wasn't the PS4 the one that under perform,in fact it is estimated than 800k are PS3 the rest PS4,so yeah that mean 2.6 or 2.7 million PS4 on top of the 7 million sold by April,which mean the PS4 is very close to 10 millions now.
3.5 >>>>> 1.1 by more than 3 to 1,but between the xbox one and PS4 it was like 5 to 1 this pass quarter,the xbox one is estimate to have ship 400k to 500k the majority were xbox 360,contrary to sony which it is estimated that 800k were PS3 while 2.6 to 2.7 million were PS4,remember that MS By march 31 had shipped 5 million units but from those 5 it was estimated that 1 million was still on stores and that stores were saturate.
In fact a report came from MS that they would stop shipments or cut them to allow for the one on store to move,which explain why the shipments where so low,and believe me they are to low,the xbox 360 in 2006 same time frame alone shipped 1.8 million,MS shipped 1.1 million this quarter and where combined with xbox one and xbox 360.
No matter how you slice it even if half the shipments where PS4 that number would still beat MS xbox + xbox 360 numbers combined,the relevant part is the 3.5 million vs 1.1 million it was a destruction.
So you are speculating on what you think the PS4 and Xbone sold then, correct? Any links for non-combined official sales from either Sony or MS?
I don't understand why anyone is buying either of them.
Yeah let me go throw $400+ dollars down the drain for a box that can't even play 1080p games half the time, all the exclusives out are all mediocre at best, and all of the 3rd party games can be played on last gen systems.
OHHH BUT TEH INDIE GAMEZZ
As this IGN list shows only 3 out of the 50 or so games released on PS4 run at less than 1080p: STOP SPREADING BULLSHIT LIES.
Last time I checked 3 out of 50 is 6% not the whopping "half the time" or 50% number you pulled from your ass. There is a console that does fill the 900p and 720p need half the time though, it's called the XPOSBone.
IGN is bias and doesn't count.
So you are speculating on what you think the PS4 and Xbone sold then, correct? Any links for non-combined official sales from either Sony or MS?
No..
But if you want to pretend that sony is hiding PS4 numbers rather than PS3 ones be my guess soon you will learn the hard way how right i was.
Once the ps4 exclusive no mans sky releases the lead is only going to increase.
Once the XB1 launches in those other 33 countries including China and Japan, that lead is going to decrease. Then it will decrease again after Halo: MCC is released. No Man Sky doesn't even have a release date yet. You may not see that game until 2016 since they only have like 3 people working on it. If anything LBP or Drive Club bundles at $399 would move more PS4's.
LMAO. Man, you're f*cking dense sometimes...XB1 will sell like wild in Japan...lmao...
@picklesurprise: Yea, they are biased because some ignorant fanboy on the internet said so....GTFO.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/06/california-man-sues-sony-over-killzone-shadow-fall?read
I'm the guy suing Sony btw.
So not that much longer till Xbone passes Wii U, and takes away one of Nintendo's last talking points that tries to give their failed console relevance. "It hasn't failed, Wii U is in second place!!". I hope this humbling teaches Nintendo a lesson that helps them return to the glory days of the NES and SNES. I miss that Nintendo.
will probably still have better exclusives than Xbox 1 and a better compliment to PC or PS4.
Phfft, a 4 mil lead will evaporate by mid 2015 latest heck, X1 will likely outsell PS4 by that much during Christmas 2014 :o Just wait, like greatness awaits. :P
@musicalmac:
Playing new console sales on SW is like 90 on metacritic these days - good times. :P
Seriously, though. I think it may be thead-worthy.
@musicalmac:
Playing new console sales on SW is like 90 on metacritic these days - good times. :P
Seriously, though. I think it may be thead-worthy.
Okay seriously, I agree but you make it please and I'll post in it... I just rarely / never start threads these days. :)
@SecretPolice: I almost did. Still pondering. There are 1,844 results for PC games released between the PS4 release date and a month out from now for PC, and neither the PS4 nor the Xbox One crack 100 results...
@clyde46: Seriously. What are people doing with the console? Playing old games or indie games or remakes? It's baffling how few big originals have dropped.
@musicalmac: Makes me wonder why I even bought a PS4.
I'd be wondering that, too. The PS3 is a better deal, at least it has a really good blu-ray player.
I don't really see a reason to own an Xbox One at this point especially when there are better options. The exclusives on it are most likely going to head to PC at some point and the hardware is by far inferior to their competitor at the same MSRP.
So not that much longer till Xbone passes Wii U, and takes away one of Nintendo's last talking points that tries to give their failed console relevance. "It hasn't failed, Wii U is in second place!!". I hope this humbling teaches Nintendo a lesson that helps them return to the glory days of the NES and SNES. I miss that Nintendo.
What makes you think that? The gap has been slowly widening since MK8 came out, and before that (outside of November/December) it wasn't closing very quickly. If the Xbone passes the Wii U, it's going to take a while.
Once the ps4 exclusive no mans sky releases the lead is only going to increase.
Once the XB1 launches in those other 33 countries including China and Japan, that lead is going to decrease. Then it will decrease again after Halo: MCC is released. No Man Sky doesn't even have a release date yet. You may not see that game until 2016 since they only have like 3 people working on it. If anything LBP or Drive Club bundles at $399 would move more PS4's.
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