Ps4 games to be downgraded to XBONE standards. "Is a political issue".

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#1 loco145
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This article suggests rumors very similar to the Edge one, some games can run in stable 1080p 30 fps on Xbox One and can't reach stable 1080p 60 fps because of driver problem and the solution is to go to 900p 60 fps. But they said that PS4 version will be downgraded because of political issue. I was angry but today the article about Ubi Soft not knowing if the game is in 720p or 1080p on PS4 and Xbox One give credits to rumor and BF4 sub 1080p too.

http://www.gameblog.fr/news/38402-xbox-one-des-developpeurs-confient-des-problemes-avec-les-dr

Cows got owned!

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This article suggests rumors very similar to the Edge one, some games can run in stable 1080p 30 fps on Xbox One and can't reach stable 1080p 60 fps because of driver problem and the solution is to go to 900p 60 fps. But they said that PS4 version will be downgraded because of political issue. I was angry but today the article about Ubi Soft not knowing if the game is in 720p or 1080p on PS4 and Xbox One give credits to rumor and BF4 sub 1080p too.

http://www.gameblog.fr/news/38402-xbox-one-des-developpeurs-confient-des-problemes-avec-les-dr

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loco145

Doesn't effect the first party games which will be among the best.

I'm also pretty sure Watchdogs and especially AC4 will be 1080p. If not they just get dismissed like Battlefield 4.

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#4 ShadowDeathX
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Well I can see that being true...and that sucks.
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#5 Heil68
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Nothing new with MS, after all they dropped core in 2009 to go upwards of 65% casual with Kinect(lol), their target demographic.
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#6 WilliamRLBaker
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lol gamerblog.fr

lol political issues...lolololol Many games last generation ran in sub hd on the ps3 compared to the 360 version yet the 360 version wasn't brought down.

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#7 StrongBlackVine
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Well I can see that being true...and that sucks.ShadowDeathX

Maybe for some companies(EA), but not all.

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#8 StrongBlackVine
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lol gamerblog.fr

lol political issues...lolololol Many games last generation ran in sub hd on the ps3 compared to the 360 version yet the 360 version wasn't brought down.

WilliamRLBaker

Yeah that would be some bullshit, but Microsoft has a major deal with EA so I will keep an eye on their games.

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It doesn't really matter as long as Sony keep churning out epic exclusives that will take advantage of the hardware.

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#10 loco145
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lol gamerblog.fr

lol political issues...lolololol Many games last generation ran in sub hd on the ps3 compared to the 360 version yet the 360 version wasn't brought down.

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Microsoft was in a position of power over Sony.
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Isn't this more embarrassing for lemmings than cows? You guys are proud because ps4 games are getting to your lower standard? Wow
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Uber trolling by MS to SONY fans if that's true. lol :P
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Yes, Microsoft paid millions to hundreds of developers just so they can slightly lower the resolution of PS4 games :roll:
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Isn't this more embarrassing for lemmings than cows? You guys are proud because ps4 games are getting to your lower standard? WowTheKingIAm
What the... No. You idiot. People who support the PS4 are proud that they invested in a console that's more capable than the more expensive competition. It's embarrassing as f*ck for MS supporters if true.
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This article suggests rumors very similar to the Edge one, some games can run in stable 1080p 30 fps on Xbox One and can't reach stable 1080p 60 fps because of driver problem and the solution is to go to 900p 60 fps. But they said that PS4 version will be downgraded because of political issue. I was angry but today the article about Ubi Soft not knowing if the game is in 720p or 1080p on PS4 and Xbox One give credits to rumor and BF4 sub 1080p too.

http://www.gameblog.fr/news/38402-xbox-one-des-developpeurs-confient-des-problemes-avec-les-dr

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I can't read that crap. English man, English. :)

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[QUOTE="TheKingIAm"]Isn't this more embarrassing for lemmings than cows? You guys are proud because ps4 games are getting to your lower standard? WowchrisrooR
What the... No. You idiot. People who support the PS4 are proud that they invested in a console that's more capable than the more expensive competition. [color=blue]It's embarrassing as f*ck for MS supporters if true.[/color]

Exactly
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lol gamerblog.fr

lol political issues...lolololol Many games last generation ran in sub hd on the ps3 compared to the 360 version yet the 360 version wasn't brought down.

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That is because sony did not had a parity policy like MS did to stop developer from pushing extra content on disc for PS3.

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The fact that there are already games running on the XBox One at 1080P @ 60fps means developers need to try harder and get more familar with the hardware. Obviously both systems are capable of this and it will probably be the starndard in a couple years. The PS4 only has one exclusive running at 1080P @60fps (with fram drops) and it's the multiplayer portion of KZ:SF. That's it. Even Infamous is at 1080p @30fps, so I don't know what's Sony's excuse. Those games aren't multiplat.

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The fact that there are already games running on the XBox One at 1080P @ 60fps means developers need to try harder and get more familar with the hardware. Obviously both systems are capable of this and it will probably be the starndard in a couple years. The PS4 only has one exclusive running at 1080P @60fps (with fram drops) and it's the multiplayer portion of KZ:SF. That's it. Even Infamous is at 1080p @30fps, so I don't know what's Sony's excuse. Those games aren't multiplat.

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No, that argument isn't true.
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[QUOTE="loco145"]

This article suggests rumors very similar to the Edge one, some games can run in stable 1080p 30 fps on Xbox One and can't reach stable 1080p 60 fps because of driver problem and the solution is to go to 900p 60 fps. But they said that PS4 version will be downgraded because of political issue. I was angry but today the article about Ubi Soft not knowing if the game is in 720p or 1080p on PS4 and Xbox One give credits to rumor and BF4 sub 1080p too.

http://www.gameblog.fr/news/38402-xbox-one-des-developpeurs-confient-des-problemes-avec-les-dr

Cows got owned!

I'm not sure how cows get owned when it's the xbone screwing things up... Oh wait...
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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="TheKingIAm"]Isn't this more embarrassing for lemmings than cows? You guys are proud because ps4 games are getting to your lower standard? WowTheKingIAm
What the... No. You idiot. People who support the PS4 are proud that they invested in a console that's more capable than the more expensive competition. [color=blue]It's embarrassing as f*ck for MS supporters if true.[/color]

Exactly

I don't think that he knows that he just agreed with you.
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Looks like that Edge story is true.

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Microsoft, holding back the PS4, PC, and Wii U once again.

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Isn't this more embarrassing for lemmings than cows? You guys are proud because ps4 games are getting to your lower standard? WowTheKingIAm


No it sucks worse for PS4 owners; despite the speed and power advantages the console has, multiplat games are being curtailed to lower standards. 

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[QUOTE="TheKingIAm"]Isn't this more embarrassing for lemmings than cows? You guys are proud because ps4 games are getting to your lower standard? WowX_CAPCOM_X



No it sucks worse for PS4 owners; despite the speed and power advantages the console has, multiplat games are being curtailed to lower standards. 

 

For now. I don't see this being the norm as the gen goes forward.

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Where were those ''political issues'' in previous generations?

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[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]

[QUOTE="TheKingIAm"]Isn't this more embarrassing for lemmings than cows? You guys are proud because ps4 games are getting to your lower standard? WowKingpin0114



No it sucks worse for PS4 owners; despite the speed and power advantages the console has, multiplat games are being curtailed to lower standards. 

 

For now. I don't see this being the norm as the gen goes forward.



I hope not. I would really like to see developers try orignal and unique ideas on both consoles to make them interesting, but sadly they prefer easy work :/ 

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Where were those ''political issues'' in previous generations?

PAL360

Exactly. The way I see it is that 3rd parties will make their games similar for both platforms at the beginning until they see what console becomes "the console" for multiplat sales. Then they will make that console the lead platorm and just port to the others.

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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]

[QUOTE="TheKingIAm"]Isn't this more embarrassing for lemmings than cows? You guys are proud because ps4 games are getting to your lower standard? WowKingpin0114



No it sucks worse for PS4 owners; despite the speed and power advantages the console has, multiplat games are being curtailed to lower standards. 

 

For now. I don't see this being the norm as the gen goes forward.

And if it does, the Sony Defense Force will once again revert to the old 'lazy devs' ploy.
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#30 Kingpin0114
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[QUOTE="PAL360"] [QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]

No it sucks worse for PS4 owners; despite the speed and power advantages the console has, multiplat games are being curtailed to lower standards. 

donalbane

 

For now. I don't see this being the norm as the gen goes forward.

And if it does, the Sony Defense Force will once again revert to the old 'lazy devs' ploy.

 

Probably and if it doesn't lems will just do the same thing.

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1. we will never know, barring a flat out admission by someone who named himself/herself and states it, that this will happen for any game.

2. Both MS and Sony have done this in the past, and I expect it tpo continue to a degree, but not by every single dev.

3. I could care less about any of this. I don't expect multi billion dollar companies to play nice. That's for Sony or MS.

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[QUOTE="TheKingIAm"]Isn't this more embarrassing for lemmings than cows? You guys are proud because ps4 games are getting to your lower standard? WowchrisrooR
What the... No. You idiot. People who support the PS4 are proud that they invested in a console that's more capable than the more expensive competition. It's embarrassing as f*ck for MS supporters if true.

Invested in a console that hasn't launched yet? Why would it be embarrassing if Sony games are downgraded because of the XOne? How would that effect MS fans at all? Funny how anyone would be "proud" to own a piece of plastic made by a company that only cares about your money.
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

lol gamerblog.fr

lol political issues...lolololol Many games last generation ran in sub hd on the ps3 compared to the 360 version yet the 360 version wasn't brought down.

tormentos

That is because sony did not had a parity policy like MS did to stop developer from pushing extra content on disc for PS3.

Tin foil hat time. Hold on I have to make a new one.
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

lol gamerblog.fr

lol political issues...lolololol Many games last generation ran in sub hd on the ps3 compared to the 360 version yet the 360 version wasn't brought down.

kingtito

That is because sony did not had a parity policy like MS did to stop developer from pushing extra content on disc for PS3.

Tin foil hat time. Hold on I have to make a new one.

I swear Cows act as if Sony is their loving grandmother and has never and would never do anything wrong, lol. Fanboys on both sides need to get their heads out of the sand. This is big business, billions on the line, and ruthless in every way. Sony and MS have both done any number of bad things we know about, and likely plenty more we have never learned of. This is a rumor at best, and if true, is likely business as usual. Each side will do whatever it takes to win. And if you think they care about anything more than your money, ask for a system for free. The one that gives you one cares about you.
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The fact that there are already games running on the XBox One at 1080P @ 60fps means developers need to try harder and get more familar with the hardware. Obviously both systems are capable of this and it will probably be the starndard in a couple years. The PS4 only has one exclusive running at 1080P @60fps (with fram drops) and it's the multiplayer portion of KZ:SF. That's it. Even Infamous is at 1080p @30fps, so I don't know what's Sony's excuse. Those games aren't multiplat.

blackace

 

There is only 1 1080p game 60 FPS and is far from impressive effect wise.

 

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[QUOTE="blackace"]

The fact that there are already games running on the XBox One at 1080P @ 60fps means developers need to try harder and get more familar with the hardware. Obviously both systems are capable of this and it will probably be the starndard in a couple years. The PS4 only has one exclusive running at 1080P @60fps (with fram drops) and it's the multiplayer portion of KZ:SF. That's it. Even Infamous is at 1080p @30fps, so I don't know what's Sony's excuse. Those games aren't multiplat.

tormentos

There is only 1 1080p game 60 FPS and is far from impressive effect wise.

Coming from you, that means...............absolutely nothing.

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The fact that there are already games running on the XBox One at 1080P @ 60fps means developers need to try harder and get more familar with the hardware. Obviously both systems are capable of this and it will probably be the starndard in a couple years. The PS4 only has one exclusive running at 1080P @60fps (with fram drops) and it's the multiplayer portion of KZ:SF. That's it. Even Infamous is at 1080p @30fps, so I don't know what's Sony's excuse. Those games aren't multiplat.

blackace

There is only one confirmed 1080p/60fps exclsuive on Xbone. You make it sound like there's tons of games.

 

Ryse - 900p/30fps

DR3 - 720p/struggling 30fps

KI - 720p/60fps

Forza 5 - 1080p/60fps

Titanfall - Unconfirmed 1080p/60fps

 

Compare this to the PS4:

 

KZSF - 1080p/60fps

Resogun - 1080p/60fps

Infamous 2 - 1080p/30fps

Deep Down - 1080p/60fps

DriveClub - 1080p/30fps (devs targeting 60fps)

Warframe -1080p/60fps

Planetside 2- 1080p/60fps

 

^ ^ :cool: Seems like it's the XB1 that needs plenty of excuses. More than half of the games on it are having issues with achieving 1080p and some of them even struggling to hit 30fps when resolution is downgraded.

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Tin foil hat time. Hold on I have to make a new one. kingtito

 

Downloadable games must ship on Xbox Live Arcade at least simultaneously with competing platforms or Microsoft may refuse to publish them, Eurogamer can reveal.

Microsoft also demands publishers release games with at least the same content "on-disc" across platforms.

Speaking to Eurogamer in a new interview, European Xbox boss Chris Lewis confirmed and defended the policy.

"We're a little biased, so obviously we're going to look to protect our own space as best we can and get exclusivity," he said.

"Whilst I can't be specific about the terms and conditions, you can be very confident we seek to maximise our own advantage to ensure the playing field is even, and certainly plays to our advantage wherever possible.

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-24-why-microsoft-wont-publish-psn-firsts

 

But but the tinfoil hat...

You better buy 3..:lol:

 

Microsofts policies that are designed to protect the Xbox 360 platform are to the detriment of the wider industry and the consumer, Sony has claimed.

The attack comes after it was revealed that Microsoft has a number of strict policies in place for potential publishers, including an unwillingness to publish games on Xbox Live that have previously been PS3 exclusives.

In the spirit of competition, more than anything, we look for ways to give our consumer reason to have the PS3, SCEAs senior VP of publisher relations Rob Dyer told IndustryGamers.

I think what [Xbox European boss] Chris Lewis and the other representatives at Microsoft are doing is protecting an inferior technology.

 

 

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/sony-ms-policies-are-protecting-an-inferior-technology/084221

 

Sony even attacked MS for this,and MS was in deed protecting their inferior DVD format..

So yeah i don't know how things will play out this gen,but if MS try that again it may lead into a policies war between sony and MS,MS demanding parity and sony demanding developers to take advantage of the hardware..

 

 

 

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lol Weeaboo conspiracy lulz

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Coming from you, that means...............absolutely nothing.

kingtito

 

Considering that you are a blind lemming i would have to say the same..

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It doesn't really matter as long as Sony keep churning out epic exclusives that will take advantage of the hardware.

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[QUOTE="kingtito"] Tin foil hat time. Hold on I have to make a new one. tormentos

 

Downloadable games must ship on Xbox Live Arcade at least simultaneously with competing platforms or Microsoft may refuse to publish them, Eurogamer can reveal.

Microsoft also demands publishers release games with at least the same content "on-disc" across platforms.

Speaking to Eurogamer in a new interview, European Xbox boss Chris Lewis confirmed and defended the policy.

"We're a little biased, so obviously we're going to look to protect our own space as best we can and get exclusivity," he said.

"Whilst I can't be specific about the terms and conditions, you can be very confident we seek to maximise our own advantage to ensure the playing field is even, and certainly plays to our advantage wherever possible.

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-24-why-microsoft-wont-publish-psn-firsts

 

But but the tinfoil hat...

You better buy 3..:lol:

 

Microsofts policies that are designed to protect the Xbox 360 platform are to the detriment of the wider industry and the consumer, Sony has claimed.

The attack comes after it was revealed that Microsoft has a number of strict policies in place for potential publishers, including an unwillingness to publish games on Xbox Live that have previously been PS3 exclusives.

In the spirit of competition, more than anything, we look for ways to give our consumer reason to have the PS3, SCEAs senior VP of publisher relations Rob Dyer told IndustryGamers.

I think what [Xbox European boss] Chris Lewis and the other representatives at Microsoft are doing is protecting an inferior technology.

 

 

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/sony-ms-policies-are-protecting-an-inferior-technology/084221

 

Sony even attacked MS for this,and MS was in deed protecting their inferior DVD format..

So yeah i don't know how things will play out this gen,but if MS try that again it may lead into a policies war between sony and MS,MS demanding parity and sony demanding developers to take advantage of the hardware..

 

 

 

None of that has anything to do with the TCs article. We're talking about devs downgrading PS4 games because MS paid them off or something along those lines. Try harder El tormented.
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[QUOTE="kingtito"]

 

Coming from you, that means...............absolutely nothing.

tormentos

 

Considering that you are a blind lemming i would have to say the same..

Except that I'm not a lem at all. I'd rather NOT be associated with the rabid cows here though. I don't go putting down Sony just for the sake of it like fanboys do. Nor do I run around blindly praising MS just because they're MS. Can't say the same for you though.
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#44 Netherscourge
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This will only affect multiplats, which will most likely be best on PC anyway.

First Party PS4 games will blow the XB1 out of the water.

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#45 tormentos
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None of that has anything to do with the TCs article. We're talking about devs downgrading PS4 games because MS paid them off or something along those lines. Try harder El tormented. kingtito

 

Re read the first post dude is about a policy.

Nice spin..

 

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#46 tormentos
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Except that I'm not a lem at all. I'd rather NOT be associated with the rabid cows here though. I don't go putting down Sony just for the sake of it like fanboys do. Nor do I run around blindly praising MS just because they're MS. Can't say the same for you though. kingtito

 

 

:lol:

 

Sure your not...:lol:

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#47 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"] None of that has anything to do with the TCs article. We're talking about devs downgrading PS4 games because MS paid them off or something along those lines. Try harder El tormented. tormentos

 

Re read the first post dude is about a policy.

Nice spin..

 

So without proof you're going t try and use it as fact? Seems typical coming from one of the biggest cows here.
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#48 tormentos
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This will only affect multiplats, which will most likely be best on PC anyway.

First Party PS4 games will blow the XB1 out of the water.

Netherscourge

 

Probably even more when GPU compute come heavy into play for the PS4.

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#49 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"]Except that I'm not a lem at all. I'd rather NOT be associated with the rabid cows here though. I don't go putting down Sony just for the sake of it like fanboys do. Nor do I run around blindly praising MS just because they're MS. Can't say the same for you though. tormentos

 

 

:lol:

 

Sure your not...:lol:

Considering I play more games on my PC, playing 1 game on the PS3 and ZERO games on my 360 umm yeah I'd say that is correct. You on the other hand can't say the same. You blindly follow a company giving praise when they're only after your money. A company that ALSO practices business the same exact way MS does yet they're given a pass because???? Can we say hypocrite?
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#50 Kaz_Son
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="kingtito"]Except that I'm not a lem at all. I'd rather NOT be associated with the rabid cows here though. I don't go putting down Sony just for the sake of it like fanboys do. Nor do I run around blindly praising MS just because they're MS. Can't say the same for you though. kingtito

 

 

:lol:

 

Sure your not...:lol:

Considering I play more games on my PC, playing 1 game on the PS3 and ZERO games on my 360 umm yeah I'd say that is correct. You on the other hand can't say the same. You blindly follow a company giving praise when they're only after your money. A company that ALSO practices business the same exact way MS does yet they're given a pass because???? Can we say hypocrite?

You're one of the biggest lemmings here. :lol: Don't pull that "I'm actually a Hermit" bullshit card, no one here believes it.