PS3 UI Needs an Overhaul

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#151 elchiquilin
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Well To be honest the GUI are the part of both consoles i see the less of, since all I do is game or watch my videos, movies and tv shows anyways IMO both are fine as they are
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#152 SageJMP
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No, the current UI is nearly perfect, especially with the ability to create themes. I don't see how it can be confusing.

About the only thing that needs to be added to the current UI is maybe the ability to create "subfolders" within system to help keep the stuff like music and videos organized better.

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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Aha, real issues here. *grabs coat and leaves* :PStevo_the_gamer

:P Again, the big picture is what matters here. Something you and wingman are missing hugely.

Hugely? I see your interpretation of this being overblown to be rather huge though, so at least our words are the same!:P But c'mon Steven, at least your point with bluray speeds were something to consider, this is just Blackbond's level of repetition that just revolves around the definition of nitpicking.:P

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#154 BlbecekBobecek
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I agree, PS3 UI is real crap. The "x" menu is extremly slow.

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#155 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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No, the current UI is nearly perfect

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Except the integration of the PSN Store with the dashbaord. The actual organization of the PSN Store. The syncing of trophies. The downloading and installing data. The update system. Notification system. Intregration of profile. ect...

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#156 Slashless
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I'm one of the few that prefers the ps3's ui to the 360's...

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#157 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I agree, PS3 UI is real crap. The "x" menu is extremly slow.

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The only slow part is the icons take some time to load up.
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#158 bri360
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Its fine the way it is, deal with it i say :)

Stevo_the_gamer

Everything needs refinement and improvement one way or another, pretending it's perfectly fine as is showcases a way of thought which will only stagnant the industry.

I have no problems with it, its clean, efficient, easy to navigate. Why would they spend the money the develope a new UI, when they dont need to? Pointless waste of money. And no not everything needs to be updated and refined every chance you get, at some point you need to say okay its done, its good the way it is.

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#159 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Aha, real issues here. *grabs coat and leaves* :Psanim02

:P Again, the big picture is what matters here. Something you and wingman are missing hugely.

Hugely? I see your interpretation of this being overblown to be rather huge though, so at least our words are the same!:P But c'mon Steven, at least your point with bluray speeds were something to consider, this is just Blackbond's level of repetition that just revolves around the definition of nitpicking.:P

I get rather annoyed by inefficient design of things. Just as going through nine menus to exit the PC version of Assassins Creed. Again, it may not seem like much... but Jesus Christ, nine menus to get out of a game?

Edit: Eleven steps to take actually.

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#160 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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its good the way it is.

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Tell that to the developers who consistently update and refine their games...

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#161 _SWAG_
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i disagree. if it aint broke dont fix it. the ps3 ui is the best ** its the ui king** xboxlive always change it every time, it confuses lots of people **

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#162 ccagracing
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It really is dated now and the new Xbox interface will push that gap even further apart. There is far to much text options on the screen and everything is just one big list, followed by another list.I would have thought that since Sony market the PS3 as an entertainment hub thatthey would release updates to the OS to streamline this but all they do is add another option to an ever growing list. Sony have missed a real oppurtunity to offer an excellent 3D Blu Ray player with an excellent modern interface that can also play some greatgames and offer genuine internet for £199 versus £149 for theSony BDP480 3D BD player.

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#163 JasonDarksavior
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Yeah, I'm getting sick of it and it's pretty modest.
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#164 WyteCollaCrim
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Its perfect, nice and simple.
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#165 shinrabanshou
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From gaf in response to the fall update: "Kind of excited for my 360 to look like my PS3."

Amidoingitright?

Anyway, yes, I wouldn't mind an overhaul, but I don't necessarily need one.

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#166 sandbox3d
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Nah. It works and works well and if the visuals get stale to you then you can customize it. I honestly don't care what happens with either UI, but I also fail to see the issue here.

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#167 hakanakumono
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I'm fine with it as it is now. Never had any issues, and themes keep the XMB visually fresh (like the one I'm currently using). I've always liked more simple UIs though.

What really needs a UI overhaul is Netflix. It was sooo good before they changed it. /offtopic

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It worked better when it used the disc. :(

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#168 hakanakumono
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I'm guessing you're also one of those who believe the PS3 is infinitely superior because you have to spend less seconds changing discs?

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#169 KoRneYEZ
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Stevo, you've used Vista, so a portion of your credibility and judgement just got thrown out the window. I personally find the PS3 UI to be fine, though some of the online options on the right side of the menu could be cleaned up a little.
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#170 205212669269561485377169522720
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I'm guessing you're also one of those who believe the PS3 is infinitely superior because you have to spend less seconds changing discs?

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Sorta, Steven here hates installs.:P I'm amazed at how he manages to keep his cool with PC gaming though, with all the installs, updates and such.:P ( On a tangent here, it took me 30 mins to update BFBC2 today:|... I guess that's what I get for booting it up after 4 months since it all "adds up".:lol: )

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#171 princeofshapeir
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it looks fine and it works fine. anyway, i didn't buy a ps3 over a 360 because of a UI; i bought it because it had the games i wanted
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#172 HoolaHoopMan
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I'd agree that they need an overhaul. The interface of Live makes it much easier to navigate.
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#173 arbitor365
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i always hated the xbox360 UI. the PS3 one feels alot less cluttered.

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#174 o0HAPPY0o
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It'll be five years come November for the anniversary of the Playstation 3--and in that time, the UI has gone through very small incremental updates and barely any updates levied towards the actual gaphical design, besides one minor update which made the background more animated if memory serves me correctly. It's actually kind of sad that I can't even recall any updates to the UI yet I can easily point out the barage of firmware updates the PS3 has received since its release.

The design is archaic; its age shows compared to the Xbox GUI. The Xbox has gone through multiple overhauls which has helped to make the dashboard fresher and easily more vivid, or exciting. With the Fall update for the Xbox 360 right around the corner and the update looking better than ever, I have to ask PS3 owners if they would like the same respect with a dashboard overhaul?

The Live Tile system which is being used by Windows 8, and currently being utilized by Windows Mobile 7.0-7.5 has been praised by a variety of outlets and consumers alike by its ease of use or accessibility, and it's attractive interface. You look at this new--fresh design--and compare it to the same 2006 Dashboard design of the PS3?

Now, I imagine people are going to dish out the same argument of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" outline. And I'm afraid I don't agree entirely with this notion, otherwise I would be still stuck using the same grossly archaic dashboard for the Xbox 360 back in 2005, which comparing that to today and the new update? It looks like a frickin' eyesore (although nostalgia makes me snicker looking at it). We've come a long ways, and even in the gaming world, we like to have evolution and innovation come out--not stagnant ways of thinking. People praised the PS3 Slim, yet the "Fat PS3" was a fair design as is, in fact, it was more durable than the PS3 Slim aside from being more power hungry. Once again, people supported that yet the idea of a "new" interface avoids Sony like the plague, why?

I want new. Do you?

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+ 1 for the trip down memory lane and for PGR3 being the game showed.. awesome memories indeed.

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Sorta, Steven here hates installs.:P I'm amazed at how he manages to keep his cool with PC gaming though, with all the installs, updates and such.:P ( On a tangent here, it took me 30 mins to update BFBC2 today:|... I guess that's what I get for booting it up after 4 months since it all "adds up".:lol: )

sanim02

My PC can do a variety of things while a game is downloading and/or installing. My PS3 cannot. Consoles are supposed to be "Plug-N-Play" ... not plug in a game, and wait a half hour for a game to install (I'm looking at you GT5).

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#176 PBSnipes
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I'm guessing you're also one of those who believe the PS3 is infinitely superior because you have to spend less seconds changing discs?

hakanakumono

In the interest of trying to take this as far down the rabbit hole as possible (hopefully we can get someone to compare battery charging times in two or three pages): I'm pretty sure PS3 owners spend more time waiting for mandatory installs than 360 owners waste switching discs, never mind all the time PS3 owners spend waiting for updates (both games and firmware) to download+install.

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[QUOTE="sanim02"]

Sorta, Steven here hates installs.:P I'm amazed at how he manages to keep his cool with PC gaming though, with all the installs, updates and such.:P ( On a tangent here, it took me 30 mins to update BFBC2 today:|... I guess that's what I get for booting it up after 4 months since it all "adds up".:lol: )

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My PC can do a variety of things while a game is downloading and/or installing. My PS3 cannot. Consoles are supposed to be "Plug-N-Play" ... not plug in a game, and wait a half hour for a game to install (I'm looking at you GT5).

I normally just let my stuff install on my PC instead of being restless and surf the web, but that's just me.:P Also everyone does stuff while downloading, like hey I play my PS3 games while it does background downloads!:D

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#178 RandomWinner
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I think its fine because its functional. Live just cluttered everything and added ads everywhere. I won't say the XMB is a perfect system, but I'm used to it, I would be frustrated to figure out something new on the main screen. An update to the in game XMB though would be something that I unconditionally support however.

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#179 AgentA-Mi6
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Themes make the XMB interface look happier, more lively while at the same time remaining simple and easy to use. It is perfectly fine and there's no need to change it, the 360 UI looks better only because the picture in the op is from an XMB without a theme.
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I normally just let my stuff install on my PC instead of being restless and surf the web, but that's just me.:P Also everyone does stuff while downloading, like hey I play my PS3 games while it does background downloads!:D

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You're referring to background downloads like videos, music, or game content though. Not game related updates, firmwares, or game installs. To which is annoying is the limit of one item being downloaded at one time--across both systems--that is incredibly lame.

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[QUOTE="sanim02"]

I normally just let my stuff install on my PC instead of being restless and surf the web, but that's just me.:P Also everyone does stuff while downloading, like hey I play my PS3 games while it does background downloads!:D

Stevo_the_gamer

You're referring to background downloads like videos, music, or game content though. Not game related updates, firmwares, or game installs. To which is annoying is the limit of one item being downloaded at one time--across both systems--that is incredibly lame.

True, it bugs me when I can't play my game while it updates on a console or on a PC.:( It pays off when my laptop is right next to my tv, so I can just alternate at ease!:) But alas, we don't get what we always want now do we Steven? Otherwise we wouldn't have so much fun reading your threads about dissecting the minor faults of the Playstation Trois to most, but greater to yourself!:P

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#182 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I think its fine because its functional. Live just cluttered everything and added ads everywhere. I won't say the XMB is a perfect system, but I'm used to it, I would be frustrated to figure out something new on the main screen. An update to the in game XMB though would be something that I unconditionally support however.

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How is this "cluttered"?

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#183 Chris_Williams
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you can customize the UI with any theme you want? are you guys serious? it has no ads, no nothing.

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#184 GD1551
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I don't think so at all. The PS3 needs a better multiplayer/social system that gives the benefits of XBL rather than a new UI. The current one is fine and I don't see the big issue with it.

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True, it bugs me when I can't play my game while it updates on a console or on a PC.:( It pays off when my laptop is right next to my tv, so I can just alternate at ease!:) But alas, we don't get what we always want now do we Steven? Otherwise we wouldn't have so much fun reading your threads about dissecting the minor faults of the Playstation Trois to most, but greater to yourself!:P

sanim02

Greater? Don't be silly, I have called all these issues minor faults--it's the overall picture itself which classifies PS3 UI being inferior to the Xbox GUI in *many* regards.

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#187 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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you can customize the UI with any theme you want? are you guys serious? it has no ads, no nothing.

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So I'm seeing imaginary ads here?

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[QUOTE="sanim02"]

True, it bugs me when I can't play my game while it updates on a console or on a PC.:( It pays off when my laptop is right next to my tv, so I can just alternate at ease!:) But alas, we don't get what we always want now do we Steven? Otherwise we wouldn't have so much fun reading your threads about dissecting the minor faults of the Playstation Trois to most, but greater to yourself!:P

Stevo_the_gamer

Greater? Don't be silly, I have called all these issues minor faults--it's the overall picture itself which classifies PS3 UI being inferior to the Xbox GUI in *many* regards.

So you are saying that the sum of all the minor faults becomes the the greater aspect of your point of it being inferior (ie the topic:P)? Because so far, I'm sorry to break it to you, but it all still adds up to being a bigger version of the word nitpicking.:P You can add nitpicking aspects into a greater picture, but even then all the previous aspects were still a part of said activity.:P You'd totally have a point if there was a problem to begin with though, but at this point it's like cultivating one.:P

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#189 arbitor365
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So I'm seeing imaginary ads here?

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seriously dude? that is the "what's new in the playstation store" icon. which is where you go to when you want ads

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#190 arbitor365
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[QUOTE="RandomWinner"]

I think its fine because its functional. Live just cluttered everything and added ads everywhere. I won't say the XMB is a perfect system, but I'm used to it, I would be frustrated to figure out something new on the main screen. An update to the in game XMB though would be something that I unconditionally support however.

Stevo_the_gamer

How is this "cluttered"?

there is no reason for the icons to be that big. notice how you can never see all the options, either horizontal or vertical. its because of how bloated everything is.

with the PS3 XMB, you can pretty much see everything at once, since the icons are about a tenth of the size of the oversized xbox icons. its much cleaner looking (in my opinion) and easier to navigate.

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#191 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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seriously dude? that is the "what's new in the playstation store" icon. which is where you go to when you want ads

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That's where you end up when you initially start your PS3? :?

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#192 arbitor365
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[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

seriously dude? that is the "what's new in the playstation store" icon. which is where you go to when you want ads

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That's where you end up when you initially start your PS3? :?

yes but unless you linger on it for, like, 10+ seconds you wont see any ads

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#193 Brainkiller05
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I like the minimalistic style of the PS UI, I just don't think the current layout is good. Could do with some work, but I like the basic style of it, I don't want some over the top thing like xbox has.
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#194 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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there is no reason for the icons to be that big. notice how you can never see all the options, either horizontal or vertical. its because of how bloated everything is.

with the PS3 XMB, you can pretty much see everything at once, since the icons are about a tenth of the size of the oversized xbox icons. its much cleaner looking (in my opinion) and easier to navigate.

arbitor365

Why isn't there? Why do you have to see ALL the options available? You can't even see all the options available for the PS3? :?

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#195 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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10+ seconds you wont see any ads

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Or five seconds... once again, just busting the myth of no ads on PS3. ;)

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#196 Pug-Nasty
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They got it right the first time, so they don't need to overhaul it. As for how it looks, you can completely change the background and icons with custom themes. You can even change the sound effects.

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#198 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

seriously dude? that is the "what's new in the playstation store" icon. which is where you go to when you want ads

Stevo_the_gamer

That's where you end up when you initially start your PS3? :?

Mine doesn't, because I turned off that option in the settings.

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So you are saying that the sum of all the minor faults becomes the the greater aspect of your point of it being inferior (ie the topic:P)? Because so far, I'm sorry to break it to you, but it all still adds up to being a bigger version of the word nitpicking.:P You can add nitpicking aspects into a greater picture, but even then all the previous aspects were still a part of said activity.:P You'd totally have a point if there was a problem to begin with though, but at this point it's like cultivating one.:P

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It's nitpicking to want a overhaul of an archaic design because the current design already has quite a number of deficits compared to the competition? I wasn't aware it's "nitpicking" to address readily visible issues like notifications, install/download, trophy sync, profile system, game data, ect. The XMB has some design issues. We can all cover our ears and pretend the PS3 UI is perfect, but you'd think we'd want more refinement to improve the service.

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#200 campzor
Member since 2004 • 34932 Posts
it looks great. SImple and far easier to navigate