PS Vita sold out from high demand? lies

#1 Edited by KBFloYd (13991 posts) -

On July 2nd, 2014, Polygon published an article quoting Andrew House stating “The U.S. launch of the slimmer and lighter PS Vita has generated strong interest among gamers, and we’re working to replenish supply here to ensure continued momentum leading into the holidays.” Really Sony? Well the NPD numbers are out…..and it doesn’t back up that statement at all.

The NPD numbers were released today for June, and the PS Vita sold 15,000 units for the month of June. That is 4,000 units less than the ORIGINAL WII. So is Nintendo having trouble keeping supply with the Wii Mini?

Because it’s outselling the PS Vita in North America. Look, I don’t want to turn this into a sales flame war, but I really don’t like being lied to Sony. Don’t sit here and act like the PS Vita is doing something great, when it’s not.

This is why I don’t trust Andrew House and his random quotes with ZERO proof to back up what he is saying.

What do you guys think about this? Am I off the mark here or does Sony have some ‘explaining’ they need to do?

http://playeressence.com/sonys-andrew-house-flat-out-lied-concerning-the-ps-vita-in-north-america/

#2 Posted by ninjapirate2000 (3097 posts) -

15,000 wtf man that's a joke.

#3 Posted by SolidGame_basic (18359 posts) -

... Or maybe you're over thinking it and they just sold more than they thought they would. Besides, did you really spend that much time making an anti Vita thread?

#4 Posted by cainetao11 (17978 posts) -

Dude he's a company man. His PR may be a lie, it may be misconstrued. They all do it.

#5 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16958 posts) -

it's not a lie though. Sony was expecting to sell 2 Vitas and they sold way more thus creating shortages

#6 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (7817 posts) -

Sony lies get worse by the day. If they are talking, they are lying.

#7 Posted by handssss (1837 posts) -

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Sony lies get worse by the day. If they are talking, they are lying.

yeah. Next you know, they'll be lying claiming they doubled their sales in a month boosted by them removing hardware that the lied about saying originally that they'd never remove it because it was integral. Sony is such liars claiming they are making original TV programming and then canning the studios working on the projects and saying BS like the system is going to be having online check ins and family sharing. But worst of all, how DARE sony insult our intelligence by lying and saying that nobody can tell the difference between 1080p/lower resolutions AND 60fps/30fps unless they are sitting right in front of a 60" TV screen.

Such scumbags, amiright?

#8 Posted by Gue1 (10409 posts) -

@handssss said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Sony lies get worse by the day. If they are talking, they are lying.

yeah. Next you know, they'll be lying claiming they doubled their sales in a month boosted by them removing hardware that the lied about saying originally that they'd never remove it because it was integral. Sony is such liars claiming they are making original TV programming and then canning the studios working on the projects and saying BS like the system is going to be having online check ins and family sharing. But worst of all, how DARE sony insult our intelligence by lying and saying that nobody can tell the difference between 1080p/lower resolutions AND 60fps/30fps unless they are sitting right in front of a 60" TV screen.

Such scumbags, amiright?

lol these lems are getting steamrolled in their own game.

#9 Posted by littlestreakier (2932 posts) -

@KBFloYd: Sony has a very long history of lying to gamers. I'm actually fairly confident it's one of the items listed as "high priority" on their business model.

Only fanboys will deny this and get hurt over this truth. There are countless times that Sony has proved how much lying is important to them.

#10 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (7817 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

@handssss said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Sony lies get worse by the day. If they are talking, they are lying.

yeah. Next you know, they'll be lying claiming they doubled their sales in a month boosted by them removing hardware that the lied about saying originally that they'd never remove it because it was integral. Sony is such liars claiming they are making original TV programming and then canning the studios working on the projects and saying BS like the system is going to be having online check ins and family sharing. But worst of all, how DARE sony insult our intelligence by lying and saying that nobody can tell the difference between 1080p/lower resolutions AND 60fps/30fps unless they are sitting right in front of a 60" TV screen.

Such scumbags, amiright?

lol these lems are getting steamrolled in their own game.

That's quite a circle jerk you guys got going on here.

Killzone MP 1080p?

DriveClub will be free at launch?

Watchdogs promo 1080p60fps only on PS4?

You guys should wake the fuck up someday.

You are confusing lies with compromise.

#11 Posted by speedfog (3277 posts) -

@FoxbatAlpha said:

@Gue1 said:

@handssss said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Sony lies get worse by the day. If they are talking, they are lying.

yeah. Next you know, they'll be lying claiming they doubled their sales in a month boosted by them removing hardware that the lied about saying originally that they'd never remove it because it was integral. Sony is such liars claiming they are making original TV programming and then canning the studios working on the projects and saying BS like the system is going to be having online check ins and family sharing. But worst of all, how DARE sony insult our intelligence by lying and saying that nobody can tell the difference between 1080p/lower resolutions AND 60fps/30fps unless they are sitting right in front of a 60" TV screen.

Such scumbags, amiright?

lol these lems are getting steamrolled in their own game.

That's quite a circle jerk you guys got going on here.

Killzone MP 1080p?

DriveClub will be free at launch?

Watchdogs promo 1080p60fps only on PS4?

You guys should wake the fuck up someday.

You are confusing lies with compromise.

Don't forget Killzone 2.

#12 Edited by tormentos (18846 posts) -

@KBFloYd said:

On July 2nd, 2014, Polygon published an article quoting Andrew House stating “The U.S. launch of the slimmer and lighter PS Vita has generated strong interest among gamers, and we’re working to replenish supply here to ensure continued momentum leading into the holidays.” Really Sony? Well the NPD numbers are out…..and it doesn’t back up that statement at all.

The NPD numbers were released today for June, and the PS Vita sold 15,000 units for the month of June. That is 4,000 units less than the ORIGINAL WII. So is Nintendo having trouble keeping supply with the Wii Mini?

Because it’s outselling the PS Vita in North America. Look, I don’t want to turn this into a sales flame war, but I really don’t like being lied to Sony. Don’t sit here and act like the PS Vita is doing something great, when it’s not.

This is why I don’t trust Andrew House and his random quotes with ZERO proof to back up what he is saying.

What do you guys think about this? Am I off the mark here or does Sony have some ‘explaining’ they need to do?

http://playeressence.com/sonys-andrew-house-flat-out-lied-concerning-the-ps-vita-in-north-america/

How is he lying.?

Do you know how much they shipped.? If they shipped 20k and sold 15 doesn't that imply that they have to replenish supplies.? Without knowing what was the shipment it is impossible to know if he is lying.

#13 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (7817 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@KBFloYd said:

On July 2nd, 2014, Polygon published an article quoting Andrew House stating “The U.S. launch of the slimmer and lighter PS Vita has generated strong interest among gamers, and we’re working to replenish supply here to ensure continued momentum leading into the holidays.” Really Sony? Well the NPD numbers are out…..and it doesn’t back up that statement at all.

The NPD numbers were released today for June, and the PS Vita sold 15,000 units for the month of June. That is 4,000 units less than the ORIGINAL WII. So is Nintendo having trouble keeping supply with the Wii Mini?

Because it’s outselling the PS Vita in North America. Look, I don’t want to turn this into a sales flame war, but I really don’t like being lied to Sony. Don’t sit here and act like the PS Vita is doing something great, when it’s not.

This is why I don’t trust Andrew House and his random quotes with ZERO proof to back up what he is saying.

What do you guys think about this? Am I off the mark here or does Sony have some ‘explaining’ they need to do?

http://playeressence.com/sonys-andrew-house-flat-out-lied-concerning-the-ps-vita-in-north-america/

How is he lying.?

Do you know how much they shipped.? If they shipped 20k and sold 15 doesn't that imply that they have to replenish supplies.? With knowing what was the shipment it is impossible to know if he is lying.

Look at that muh fuckers face. He even lies when he is just thinking. Oh and that crap when he talked about Destiny...............priceless lies.

If you cant admit that Sony has a well laid history of lies then maybe you should go to OT and torture people there.

#14 Posted by yokofox33 (30020 posts) -

It's very possible they only shipped 15-20 thousand units. Who knows really. He's probably stretching the truth a bit, but who knows how much.

#15 Posted by tormentos (18846 posts) -

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Look at that muh fuckers face. He even lies when he is just thinking. Oh and that crap when he talked about Destiny...............priceless lies.

If you cant admit that Sony has a well laid history of lies then maybe you should go to OT and torture people there.

You mean like when MS claimed a sell out and day 1 edition xbox one were been found week later on stores.?

Or how the falsely claimed the xbox one was breaking records,when even the xbox 360 was beating it in time frame.?

How about telling people that there would not be a graphical difference on launch and claim the games would speak for them self,when in reality on launch all multiplatforms were superior on PS4.? How MS PR danced around confirming COD Ghost as been 720p on xbox one,how its PR claimed to not know when Activision Mark Rubin actually stated that MS engineers were side by side with Activision working and helping on the game.?

#16 Edited by KBFloYd (13991 posts) -

@tormentos said:

How is he lying.?

Do you know how much they shipped.? If they shipped 20k and sold 15 doesn't that imply that they have to replenish supplies.? Without knowing what was the shipment it is impossible to know if he is lying.

are you serious? only shipped 20k to the whole united states?

#17 Posted by tormentos (18846 posts) -

@KBFloYd said:

are you serious? only shipped 20k to the whole united states?

What do you expect them to ship on a product that was barely selling already.

#18 Posted by TheEroica (13820 posts) -

I bought one last week and it took me a couple weeks to nail one down. Gamestop, amazon, best buy, Walmart and target were all completely out of stock at hq.... gamestop replenished stock first and that's where i purchased. In store delivery was not an option.

This is definitely a case of very low numbers being shipped to the u.s. but as of today, yes the vita is a rare find in the wild... unless you like paying significantly more from small retailers.

#19 Edited by Telekill (4793 posts) -

PSV is basically dead. I have one and while the system is great, there isn't really any big AAA titles to look forward to after this year. At least not that has been announced.

#20 Edited by GrenadeLauncher (5493 posts) -

Andrew House has got so much swag. I bet he's got a dartboard with Phil Spencer's face on it, and he throws darts on it with his eyes closed and hits the bullseye every time.

Even Justin's trying to mask his overwhelming love for him with some kind of weak, impotent rage.

#21 Posted by blackace (21073 posts) -

@KBFloYd: Yeah, that's definitely a lie. He might have gotten the U.S. mixed up with Japan where it's selling very well. The PSVita is doing shit in US and Europe. It's all the craze in Japan however.

#22 Posted by Bread_or_Decide (17911 posts) -

I've been saying this for awhile now. There is no such demand they are merely not replenishing supplies.

PSVITA TV will replace it. They are quietly and slowly killing the Vita in the USA. Anyone can see it.

#23 Posted by blackace (21073 posts) -

@handssss said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Sony lies get worse by the day. If they are talking, they are lying.

yeah. Next you know, they'll be lying claiming they doubled their sales in a month boosted by them removing hardware that the lied about saying originally that they'd never remove it because it was integral. Sony is such liars claiming they are making original TV programming and then canning the studios working on the projects and saying BS like the system is going to be having online check ins and family sharing. But worst of all, how DARE sony insult our intelligence by lying and saying that nobody can tell the difference between 1080p/lower resolutions AND 60fps/30fps unless they are sitting right in front of a 60" TV screen.

Such scumbags, amiright?

You obviously don't know about Sony's historical past of lying. lol!! Yes, Sony has been scum, especially in the past. they let their ego go to their heads and the PS3 botch brought them back to Earth. No one have said that Microsoft hasn't lied as well. We know they have and so has Nintendo. **shrug** All 3 companies have lied in the past. That's what PR Spin is all about.

#24 Posted by blackace (21073 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Look at that muh fuckers face. He even lies when he is just thinking. Oh and that crap when he talked about Destiny...............priceless lies.

If you cant admit that Sony has a well laid history of lies then maybe you should go to OT and torture people there.

You mean like when MS claimed a sell out and day 1 edition xbox one were been found week later on stores.?

Or how the falsely claimed the xbox one was breaking records,when even the xbox 360 was beating it in time frame.?

How about telling people that there would not be a graphical difference on launch and claim the games would speak for them self,when in reality on launch all multiplatforms were superior on PS4.? How MS PR danced around confirming COD Ghost as been 720p on xbox one,how its PR claimed to not know when Activision Mark Rubin actually stated that MS engineers were side by side with Activision working and helping on the game.?

How come you can never stay on topic when it's something negative about Sony or the PS4? LMAO!! You're always trying to bring Microsoft and XB1 into Sony/PS4 topics. You're one of the worse trolls on SW. No one has any respect for anything you say on here. I usually just skip all the garbage you write anyways.

#25 Posted by inb4uall (5806 posts) -

Sony purposely stopped shipping them. They changed the manufacturing process so we are now on the next vita slim version. It just makes the vita slim cheaper to produce without adding anything so they kept it hush hush. They wanted to clear stock of the old model so they stopped shipping them creating a shortage for something people barely want because Sony is run by idiots. That's all that happened folks . I don't have any links but this was discovered a while ago and I can't be bothered. Look it up yourselfs.

#26 Posted by blackace (21073 posts) -
@tormentos said:

@KBFloYd said:

are you serious? only shipped 20k to the whole united states?

What do you expect them to ship on a product that was barely selling already.

What Sony probably did was completely STOP SHIPPING PS Vitas for several weeks, since their sales had been slow. When retailers asked for more, Sony was slow in shipping them to retailer, which caused the draught. I'm pretty sure Sony did this purposely so they could say PSVita's are sold out, even though it took weeks for that to happen as Sony weren't shipping any new units to retailers. I could visit some Gamestops and confirm this I'm sure. I know a few managers.

#27 Posted by blackace (21073 posts) -
@Bread_or_Decide said:

I've been saying this for awhile now. There is no such demand they are merely not replenishing supplies.

PSVITA TV will replace it. They are quietly and slowly killing the Vita in the USA. Anyone can see it.

Ding..Ding.. Ding... Ding!! We have winner. LOL!! Pretty easy to figure out.

#28 Posted by lostrib (39003 posts) -

Wasn't June during the time of vita shortages? Since the slim came out in may and sold out

#29 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (28019 posts) -

@ People saying Sony is lying/PR spinning, you mean like every other big company ever?

#30 Posted by KBFloYd (13991 posts) -

@lostrib said:

Wasn't June during the time of vita shortages? Since the slim came out in may and sold out

good point...but arent people saying they are still hard to find?

#31 Edited by MlauTheDaft (3922 posts) -

I guess he's saying that production has been kept at a lower rate than the expected demand.

Edit: While artificial shortages CAN be used to encourage demand, it's not exactly a great idea with a system already struggling with relative obscurity.

I'd say that in the case of Vita, they just did'nt want to make more models than they could sell.

#32 Edited by ActicEdge (24492 posts) -

No one outside of Japan gives a shit about PSV. It's just laughable anyone thinks otherwise.

#33 Posted by charizard1605 (58856 posts) -

Vita(lol)

The funniest people are those who actually still think that it may ever be a viable alternative to the 3DS. Like, it won't be. It never will be, I'm saying this as someone who played mine for six hours yesterday. The thing is dead- it was a brilliant handheld Sony gave no fucks about, and it's dead. Accept it, appreciate the fact you still got to enjoy it, and move on.

#34 Posted by bbkkristian (14963 posts) -

Sounds like they pulled a Nintendo, or at least are trying too. They have so little units out in the market it creates it's own demand.

#35 Posted by PapaTrop (1643 posts) -

To think there was a time I considered buying one of these.

Sony is pretty bad when it comes to supporting their own platforms it seems. I wonder if they'll make another handheld.

#36 Posted by The_Last_Ride (72948 posts) -

@KBFloYd: NPD =/= world

i thought that was obvious

#37 Posted by B4X (5513 posts) -

15,000 in a 5 week NPD.

Now that is impressive.

#38 Posted by lostrib (39003 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

Vita(lol)

I'm saying this as someone who played mine for six hours yesterday. The thing is dead

Well duh, after 6 hours the battery probably died. You have to recharge it

#39 Posted by remiks00 (1965 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

Vita(lol)

The funniest people are those who actually still think that it may ever be a viable alternative to the 3DS. Like, it won't be. It never will be, I'm saying this as someone who played mine for six hours yesterday. The thing is dead- it was a brilliant handheld Sony gave no fucks about, and it's dead. Accept it, appreciate the fact you still got to enjoy it, and move on.

Pretty much this.

@lostrib said:

@charizard1605 said:

Vita(lol)

I'm saying this as someone who played mine for six hours yesterday. The thing is dead

Well duh, after 6 hours the battery probably died. You have to recharge it

#40 Edited by Kjranu (1041 posts) -

#41 Posted by Shielder7 (5155 posts) -

Yeah like MS, EA or Nintendo never talked out their Ass.

Everyone knows the Vita is selling like shit just like everyone knows the Wii U is selling like shit you don't need NPD numbers to figure out that.