Project Cars just got Xboned

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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/project-cars-is-1080p-on-ps4-900p-on-xbox-one-up-t/1100-6426617/

In a new FAQ about upcoming racing game Project Cars, developer Slightly Mad Studios has revealed resolution and frame rate details for the gorgeous-looking title.

Here's quick breakdown, courtesy of Slightly Mad:

  • Up to 12K resolution on PC (frame rate dependent on PC hardware; PC specs listed below)
  • 1080p, 60 frames per second on PlayStation 4
  • 900p, 60 frames per second on Xbox One

In September 2014, Slightly Mad said it was aiming for both the PS4 and Xbox One editions of Project Cars to run at 1080p, but it now appears the developer was not able to pull it off for Microsoft's new console.

Resolution and frame rate details for the Wii U edition of Project Cars will be announced later.

Slightly Mad also announced that Project Cars will not feature a split-screen mode. "In order to achieve the target of 60 frames per second, there is no split-screen mode," the developer explained.

As for why Project Cars is not coming to Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3, Slightly Mad said those platforms' technical specifications aren't good enough to deliver an uncompromised version of the game.

After its third delay, Project Cars is now scheduled to launch in mid-May for PS4, Xbox One, and PC. A release date for the Wii U version has not been announced.

PROJECT CARS PC SPECIFICATIONS:

MINIMUM SPEC

  • CPU – 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400, 3.0 GHz AMD Phenom II X4 940
  • GRAPHICS – nVidia GTX 260, ATI Radeon HD 5770
  • MEMORY – 4 GB RAM, 1 GB VRAM

RECOMMENDED SPEC

  • CPU – 3.5 GHz Intel Core i7 3700, 4.0 GHz AMD FX-8350
  • GRAPHICS – nVidia GT600 series, AMD Radeon HD7000 series
  • MEMORY – 8 GB RAM, 2 GB VRAM

Insert DX12....teh cloud blah blah here.

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Not surprised.

I might get this though. Although I haven't gotten Forza: Horizon 2 yet. Maybe both.

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#3  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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12k on pc? lol consoles

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@freedomfreak said:

Not surprised.

I might get this though. Although I haven't gotten Forza: Horizon 2 yet. Maybe both.

FH2 is top notch and 1080P ( only 30fps though ) :P

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@chikenfriedrice said:

FH2 is top notch and 1080P ( only 30fps though ) :P

Oh yeah, I loved the first one.

30FPS didn't bother me then, doubt it will now.

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Not surprised. PC is the way to play this game, I'm interested to see PS4 graphics though. If PS4 looks good and I have some friends playing it, I may pick it up for that too. My X1 is for the exclusives that I hope MS starts releasing soon. SO and FH2 were great for the end of last year, but now my X1 is sadly collecting dust. I do need to try the Fast and Furious 7 expansion i picked up while it was free.

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#7  Edited By the_master_race
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What the hell is 12k :o ?

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#8  Edited By DarthaPerkinjan
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12k is a big number used by marketing to arouse hermits. I wonder if that many pixels can even fit on their 17" CRT monitors

Yet another 1080p/60fps game for the PS4

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Wii U version it shall be.

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PS4 best console version again????

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@davillain- said:

Wii U version it shall be.

Forgot about that.

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@DarthaPerkinjan said:

12k is a big number used by marketing to arouse hermits. I wonder if that many pixels can even fit on their 17" CRT monitors

Yet another 1080p/60fps game for the PS4

So 1080p/60fps is a bullet point to you when hyping the PS4 but 12K for PC is just marketing?

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Xbone can't even handle racing games lolz

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#14  Edited By Couth_
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@the_master_race said:

What the hell is 12k :o ?

3*4=12 for the mathematically challenged

it's 3 4k screens

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Is the Wii U version really only going to be 720p and 30 FPS? That's what I heard from a little birdy.

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I wanted to play this until the next Gran Turismo but they've delayed it so much. Maybe I'll still get it if the reviews are good.

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If Wii U get's 1080 there's something wrong.Otherwise Wii U may get 720 30fps

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#18  Edited By TigerSuperman
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@silversix_ said:

Xbone can't even handle racing games lolz

Hi Forza, NFS, and the crew. Apparently you don't' exist.

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#19  Edited By silversix_
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@TigerSuperman said:

@silversix_ said:

Xbone can't even handle racing games lolz

Hi Forza, NFS, and the crew. Apparently you don't' exist.

Your forza looks like a hot wheels racer, NFS looks last gen and The Crew? Really? REALLY? So desperate... Project Cars is the only good looking racer since the addition of weather effect in 5Club and Xbone is just too weak to handle it. Its not your fault, tho. You just have to deal with 900p and tell yourself that there's no difference between 1080p and 900p.

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@silversix_ said:

@TigerSuperman said:

@silversix_ said:

Xbone can't even handle racing games lolz

Hi Forza, NFS, and the crew. Apparently you don't' exist.

Your forza looks like a hot wheels racer, NFS looks last gen and The Crew? Really? REALLY? So desperate... Project Cars is the only good looking racer since the addition of weather effect in 5Club and Xbone is just too weak to handle it. Its not your fault, tho. You just have to deal with 900p and tell yourself that there's no difference between 1080p and 900p.

Odd Forza Horizon 2 has weather effects. But the Xbox One can't handle it.

You take your meds today?

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I'm confused, Wii U gets Project CARS, but PS3 and Xbox 360 are too weak for it?

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#22  Edited By Desmonic  Moderator
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12k? Talk about overkill :P

I guess it's for those lucky few with 3 4k monitors XD

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#23  Edited By iandizion713
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I hope they make the Wii U one special with the gamepad.

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#24  Edited By GameboyTroy
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@charizard1605 said:

I'm confused, Wii U gets Project CARS, but PS3 and Xbox 360 are too weak for it?

You didn't know that the Wii U has more power than the PS3 and Xbox 360? Or are you showing sarcasm?

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@silversix_ said:

@TigerSuperman said:

@silversix_ said:

Xbone can't even handle racing games lolz

Hi Forza, NFS, and the crew. Apparently you don't' exist.

Your forza looks like a hot wheels racer, NFS looks last gen and The Crew? Really? REALLY? So desperate... Project Cars is the only good looking racer since the addition of weather effect in 5Club and Xbone is just too weak to handle it. Its not your fault, tho. You just have to deal with 900p and tell yourself that there's no difference between 1080p and 900p.

Forza >>>> ShitClub.

Nice try really. It seems Cows are more desperate than ever, not even sales can calm them down.

Get a fucking PC, numb nut.

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@GameboyTroy: I do, and it does, but it's still in the same ballpark, and pretty close overall. If they can make it work on the Wii U, they should be able to get it to work on PS3 and 360, unless it's a GPU intensive game.

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@charizard1605 said:

@GameboyTroy: I do, and it does, but it's still in the same ballpark, and pretty close overall. If they can make it work on the Wii U, they should be able to get it to work on PS3 and 360, unless it's a GPU intensive game.

The Wii U's power is closer to the PS4/X1 but with less power. The PS3 and 360 have less power than the Wii U.

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I still think they made the right decision in prioritizing framerate over resolution but it's very clear that the XBone just doesn't meet expectations for a Gen8 system.

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@Shewgenja said:

I still think they made the right decision in prioritizing framerate over resolution but it's very clear that the XBone just doesn't meet expectations for a Gen8 system.

Which is why most racing games released are 1080p on the XBox one. Wait..

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@charizard1605 said:

I'm confused, Wii U gets Project CARS, but PS3 and Xbox 360 are too weak for it?

Nah, I think... They were going on about a WiiU version before even talking about the 360/Ps3 version. Put a horn on the gamepad. Lovely that.

I just think they don't wanna hamper back now, like, **** it, shit's too weak, because they had been going on about a WiiU version for so long.

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@chikenfriedrice said:

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/project-cars-is-1080p-on-ps4-900p-on-xbox-one-up-t/1100-6426617/

In a new FAQ about upcoming racing game Project Cars, developer Slightly Mad Studios has revealed resolution and frame rate details for the gorgeous-looking title.

Here's quick breakdown, courtesy of Slightly Mad:

  • Up to 12K resolution on PC (frame rate dependent on PC hardware; PC specs listed below)
  • 1080p, 60 frames per second on PlayStation 4
  • 900p, 60 frames per second on Xbox One

In September 2014, Slightly Mad said it was aiming for both the PS4 and Xbox One editions of Project Cars to run at 1080p, but it now appears the developer was not able to pull it off for Microsoft's new console.

Resolution and frame rate details for the Wii U edition of Project Cars will be announced later.

Slightly Mad also announced that Project Cars will not feature a split-screen mode. "In order to achieve the target of 60 frames per second, there is no split-screen mode," the developer explained.

As for why Project Cars is not coming to Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3, Slightly Mad said those platforms' technical specifications aren't good enough to deliver an uncompromised version of the game.

After its third delay, Project Cars is now scheduled to launch in mid-May for PS4, Xbox One, and PC. A release date for the Wii U version has not been announced.

PROJECT CARS PC SPECIFICATIONS:

MINIMUM SPEC

  • CPU – 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400, 3.0 GHz AMD Phenom II X4 940
  • GRAPHICS – nVidia GTX 260, ATI Radeon HD 5770
  • MEMORY – 4 GB RAM, 1 GB VRAM

RECOMMENDED SPEC

  • CPU – 3.5 GHz Intel Core i7 3700, 4.0 GHz AMD FX-8350
  • GRAPHICS – nVidia GT600 series, AMD Radeon HD7000 series
  • MEMORY – 8 GB RAM, 2 GB VRAM

Insert DX12....teh cloud blah blah here.

It had already been announced way way back.

And besides we have to wait for 2016 releases at the very earliest for the first DX12 games.

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@Salt_The_Fries: they were shooting for 1080P as late as September 2014....and the dx12 thing was a prediction on what the cows would say, since that is their go to.

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Wiiu is more powerful then ps3 360 has 4x ram 2x can be used for games

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#34  Edited By silversix_
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@TigerSuperman said:

@silversix_ said:

@TigerSuperman said:

@silversix_ said:

Xbone can't even handle racing games lolz

Hi Forza, NFS, and the crew. Apparently you don't' exist.

Your forza looks like a hot wheels racer, NFS looks last gen and The Crew? Really? REALLY? So desperate... Project Cars is the only good looking racer since the addition of weather effect in 5Club and Xbone is just too weak to handle it. Its not your fault, tho. You just have to deal with 900p and tell yourself that there's no difference between 1080p and 900p.

Odd Forza Horizon 2 has weather effects. But the Xbox One can't handle it.

You take your meds today?

weather effects like wet surfaces? WOW what a powerful console. Weather effects in FZH2 are two gens behind 5club ones, its not even in the same league. Meds is what you should be taking every time you create an Xbone sales thread.

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@VERTIGO47 said:

@silversix_ said:

@TigerSuperman said:

@silversix_ said:

Xbone can't even handle racing games lolz

Hi Forza, NFS, and the crew. Apparently you don't' exist.

Your forza looks like a hot wheels racer, NFS looks last gen and The Crew? Really? REALLY? So desperate... Project Cars is the only good looking racer since the addition of weather effect in 5Club and Xbone is just too weak to handle it. Its not your fault, tho. You just have to deal with 900p and tell yourself that there's no difference between 1080p and 900p.

Forza >>>> ShitClub.

Nice try really. It seems Cows are more desperate than ever, not even sales can calm them down.

Get a fucking PC, numb nut.

i have one, numb nut. Guess what? Conversation has nothing to do with it, numb nut.

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@silversix_ said:

@VERTIGO47 said:

@silversix_ said:

@TigerSuperman said:

@silversix_ said:

Xbone can't even handle racing games lolz

Hi Forza, NFS, and the crew. Apparently you don't' exist.

Your forza looks like a hot wheels racer, NFS looks last gen and The Crew? Really? REALLY? So desperate... Project Cars is the only good looking racer since the addition of weather effect in 5Club and Xbone is just too weak to handle it. Its not your fault, tho. You just have to deal with 900p and tell yourself that there's no difference between 1080p and 900p.

Forza >>>> ShitClub.

Nice try really. It seems Cows are more desperate than ever, not even sales can calm them down.

Get a fucking PC, numb nut.

i have one, numb nut. Guess what? Conversation has nothing to do with it, numb nut.

Wow his "numb nut" comment made you mad didnt it?

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I'm still waiting to hear about the Wii U version. Any day now would be good

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#38  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

It had already been announced way way back.

And besides we have to wait for 2016 releases at the very earliest for the first DX12 games.

You mean third party, right? Because I'm expecting Forza 6, Halo 5, and TR to use DX12. And isn't Fable Legends also using DX12? Which will be cross-platform, PC - Xbox One

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@silversix_ said:

@TigerSuperman said:

@silversix_ said:

@TigerSuperman said:

@silversix_ said:

Xbone can't even handle racing games lolz

Hi Forza, NFS, and the crew. Apparently you don't' exist.

Your forza looks like a hot wheels racer, NFS looks last gen and The Crew? Really? REALLY? So desperate... Project Cars is the only good looking racer since the addition of weather effect in 5Club and Xbone is just too weak to handle it. Its not your fault, tho. You just have to deal with 900p and tell yourself that there's no difference between 1080p and 900p.

Odd Forza Horizon 2 has weather effects. But the Xbox One can't handle it.

You take your meds today?

weather effects like wet surfaces? WOW what a powerful console. Weather effects in FZH2 are two gens behind 5club ones, its not even in the same league. Meds is what you should be taking every time you create an Xbone sales thread.

Someone hasn't played Forza horizon 2, keep being butthurt and make things up.

Maybe you're overdosing on meds?

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#40  Edited By deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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@silversix_ said:

@VERTIGO47 said:

@silversix_ said:

@TigerSuperman said:

@silversix_ said:

Xbone can't even handle racing games lolz

Hi Forza, NFS, and the crew. Apparently you don't' exist.

Your forza looks like a hot wheels racer, NFS looks last gen and The Crew? Really? REALLY? So desperate... Project Cars is the only good looking racer since the addition of weather effect in 5Club and Xbone is just too weak to handle it. Its not your fault, tho. You just have to deal with 900p and tell yourself that there's no difference between 1080p and 900p.

Forza >>>> ShitClub.

Nice try really. It seems Cows are more desperate than ever, not even sales can calm them down.

Get a fucking PC, numb nut.

i have one, numb nut. Guess what? Conversation has nothing to do with it, numb nut.

If you actually have a capable running PC, then you SHOULDN'T care about the PS4's capability. Just the games in carries.

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@silversix_ said:

Xbone can't even handle racing games lolz

Seems to handle the Forza games... but ok.

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#42  Edited By iambatman7986
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@GameboyTroy said:

@charizard1605 said:

@GameboyTroy: I do, and it does, but it's still in the same ballpark, and pretty close overall. If they can make it work on the Wii U, they should be able to get it to work on PS3 and 360, unless it's a GPU intensive game.

The Wii U's power is closer to the PS4/X1 but with less power. The PS3 and 360 have less power than the Wii U.

Really? It seems the Wii U is closer to the 360/PS3 in terms of power than the One/PS4. Seems like the Wii U is a bit more powerful than the 360. In terms of GFlops, the Wii U has 352, the X360 has 240, the X1 has 1,310 and PS4 has 1,843. That's just Gflops and there is a lot more to it than just that, but it seems like most specs are closer to the 360 than X1.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/1919/xbox-360-gpu.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/1903/wii-u-gpu.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2086/xbox-one-gpu.html

Wii U ram is closer to 360 than X1

Thing is, the 360 launched in 2005 so those specs were expected. A good portion of people on here think the PS4 and X1 are too weak for 2015 so that says a lot about the Wii U's power.

I own the Wii U and while it has some pretty graphics, I think a lot of that is Nintendos art design in the games, not technical power.

Sorry for derailing the thread and please correct me if I'm wrong, it just seems from playing them all, that the Wii U is closer to last gen than this gen in terms of visuals.

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I wouldn't buy this on my Xbone anyways. Besides inferior specs, it's a multiplat.

I will consider the Wii U super late port (maybe cancelled) though, gotta use that Tablet horn.

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@iambatman7986 said:
@GameboyTroy said:

@charizard1605 said:

@GameboyTroy: I do, and it does, but it's still in the same ballpark, and pretty close overall. If they can make it work on the Wii U, they should be able to get it to work on PS3 and 360, unless it's a GPU intensive game.

The Wii U's power is closer to the PS4/X1 but with less power. The PS3 and 360 have less power than the Wii U.

Really? It seems the Wii U is closer to the 360/PS3 in terms of power than the One/PS4. Seems like the Wii U is a bit more powerful than the 360. In terms of GFlops, the Wii U has 352, the X360 has 240, the X1 has 1,310 and PS4 has 1,843. That's just Gflops and there is a lot more to it than just that, but it seems like most specs are closer to the 360 than X1.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/1919/xbox-360-gpu.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/1903/wii-u-gpu.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2086/xbox-one-gpu.html

Wii U ram is closer to 360 than X1

Thing is, the 360 launched in 2005 so those specs were expected. A good portion of people on here think the PS4 and X1 are too weak for 2015 so that says a lot about the Wii U's power.

I own the Wii U and while it has some pretty graphics, I think a lot of that is Nintendos art design in the games, not technical power.

Sorry for derailing the thread and please correct me if I'm wrong, it just seems from playing them all, that the Wii U is closer to last gen than this gen in terms of visuals.

His name is Gameboy-Troy, I don't think being partial is really his bag, baby. Gameboy was created by Nintendo afterall.

I own all the machines and had a good chuckle at the notion that the Wii U is closer to PS4/Xbone than PS360. Just completely ignoring the technical evidence and 3rd party port evidence at our disposal. It's a stretch, but you can do it. It's a rather humorous post from Gameboy-boy, and this post of mine is coming from a 2012 Wii U launch owner's perspective. I too own them all and I agree from playing them that the Wii U is closer to last gen but it's got that oh so marvelous fab tablet! :P

The trick to SW is just chucking all evidence aside and post as preposterous as possible...whilst owning and defending a single platform that you would die for. Imagine if Cupid struck you with an arrow while playing Mario 3D World, I wouldn't blame you for what happened in the next 3 hours (Tablet battery life + Cupid's love effects joke).

Think of Gameboy-Troy as a Montague and the Wii U as a Capulet. Star-crossed lovers. You get the idea. A gameboy in love would no doubt feel the need to defend his beloved Juliet WiiU's good honor. A Gameboy might not even believe what he uttered out as a defense, and maybe the gameboy would go home and the Wii U might be screaming for the gameboy to do the dishes, but by golly, when out and about, Mr. Gameboy-troy don't take no guff about yo' beautiful Wiiuman!

Anyways, I just was having a bit of a laff writin' on like this, so don't get peeved! Have swig of that Jack drink and relax those mussels (muskels?) and sprouts. Put down the torches and pitchforks and go back to your regularly scheduled entertainment (Discovery Channel has a pig farming contest on later today for instance).

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@VERTIGO47: I care about both, is this something that isn't allowed? I hear this a lot on this forum, if i care about graphics i should only be focused on PC even tho games like Infamous, 5club, kz, the order of 5/10 etc all look good for any kind of standards. Or are they bad looking games because you can't play em in 1440p/4k? @pelvist: incredibly mad to be exact.

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@silversix_ said:

Xbone can't even handle racing games lolz

Seems to handle the Forza games... but ok.

implying Forza games look impressive. Even NFS looks better...

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Good God the Xbone blows

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@silversix_ said:

@VERTIGO47: I care about both, is this something that isn't allowed? I hear this a lot on this forum, if i care about graphics i should only be focused on PC even tho games like Infamous, 5club, kz, the order of 5/10 etc all look good for any kind of standards. Or are they bad looking games because you can't play em in 1440p/4k? @pelvist: incredibly mad to be exact.

@hrt_rulz01 said:

@silversix_ said:

Xbone can't even handle racing games lolz

Seems to handle the Forza games... but ok.

implying Forza games look impressive. Even NFS looks better...

FH2 is a beautiful game....even the blindest of fanboys should just admit that.

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#48  Edited By SolidTy
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chikenfriedrice said:

@silversix_ said:

@VERTIGO47: I care about both, is this something that isn't allowed? I hear this a lot on this forum, if i care about graphics i should only be focused on PC even tho games like Infamous, 5club, kz, the order of 5/10 etc all look good for any kind of standards. Or are they bad looking games because you can't play em in 1440p/4k? @pelvist: incredibly mad to be exact.

@hrt_rulz01 said:

@silversix_ said:

Xbone can't even handle racing games lolz

Seems to handle the Forza games... but ok.

implying Forza games look impressive. Even NFS looks better...

FH2 is a beautiful game....even the blindest of fanboys should just admit that.

I was at my friends crib and he was really liking his 360 FH2 game. I agree, the FH2 graphics were nice from what I saw. I told him to hurry it up and we left to meet up with ladies so I saw the game for about a minute and it looked like a good car-mobile game graphics.

He loves his old Xbox 360 and he is thinking of getting a new machine later this year. Maybe he's get an Xbone and re-buy FH2 again.

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#49  Edited By chikenfriedrice
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@SolidTy: Your fanboy is showing lol

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#50 BobRossPerm
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God I wonder what PCs will be kicking 12k. That is tripple 4K monitors right? Woah nelly!