Polygon Podcast. Importance of 1080p

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#1 Posted by shawn30 (4367 posts) -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVx-REsMEsQ

There opinions are similar to mine, and I know everyone has a different one. But for me resolution just isn't that huge a deal going forward. The fact sheets specs wise for the One and PS4 are well known, and the facts that multiplat games have and will likely continue to run better on PS4. But not everyone cares so much or thinks the difference is so great. Again, its my opinion only, but there's more than one opinion on the subject.

#2 Posted by tdkmillsy (1373 posts) -

Another thread

Sticky mods.

#3 Posted by clyde46 (46294 posts) -

Consolites, always settling for second best.

#4 Edited by lglz1337 (3778 posts) -

lol polygon

i find it really funny that lemmings dont care about resolution anymore last gen they screamed it from the

rooftops

now that the xbone is fucked they dont see the difference just stfu and dealwithit ps4 stomps the Xbone

#5 Posted by Chutebox (37227 posts) -

Lems seemed to care immensely about resolution and fps last gen. What changed.

And before anyone says, cows too

#6 Posted by Heil68 (44560 posts) -

" multiplat games have and will likely continue to run better on PS4."

I own both a PS4 and Xbone and I'm glad I have the PS4 to play the superior multi plats.

#7 Posted by uninspiredcup (8659 posts) -

Practically every single console title made hasn't used it. It's not important. End of story.

#8 Edited by Floppy_Jim (25696 posts) -

Didn't watch but lemme guess, they try to say it isn't a big deal? Because Goddamn, I remember 1080p @ 60fps being talked about back at E3 2005. Perhaps they should raise their standards.

#9 Posted by neo418 (481 posts) -

@shawn30 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVx-REsMEsQ

There opinions are similar to mine, and I know everyone has a different one. But for me resolution just isn't that huge a deal going forward. The fact sheets specs wise for the One and PS4 are well known, and the facts that multiplat games have and will likely continue to run better on PS4. But not everyone cares so much or thinks the difference is so great. Again, its my opinion only, but there's more than one opinion on the subject.

Wow you went to the trouble of finding some minority opinion that's similar to yours. Can I say butthurt?

#10 Posted by lglz1337 (3778 posts) -

@neo418: yes you can

#11 Posted by shawn30 (4367 posts) -

@neo418 said:

@shawn30 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVx-REsMEsQ

There opinions are similar to mine, and I know everyone has a different one. But for me resolution just isn't that huge a deal going forward. The fact sheets specs wise for the One and PS4 are well known, and the facts that multiplat games have and will likely continue to run better on PS4. But not everyone cares so much or thinks the difference is so great. Again, its my opinion only, but there's more than one opinion on the subject.

Wow you went to the trouble of finding some minority opinion that's similar to yours. Can I say butthurt?

Its an opinion just like yours or mine. Didnt have to go searching, as on Polygon website. How can you be butthurt about a opinion? Are you nine, lol

#12 Posted by neo418 (481 posts) -

@shawn30 said:

@neo418 said:

@shawn30 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVx-REsMEsQ

There opinions are similar to mine, and I know everyone has a different one. But for me resolution just isn't that huge a deal going forward. The fact sheets specs wise for the One and PS4 are well known, and the facts that multiplat games have and will likely continue to run better on PS4. But not everyone cares so much or thinks the difference is so great. Again, its my opinion only, but there's more than one opinion on the subject.

Wow you went to the trouble of finding some minority opinion that's similar to yours. Can I say butthurt?

Its an opinion just like yours or mine. Didnt have to go searching, as on Polygon website. How can you be butthurt about a opinion? Are you nine, lol

You are butthurt about you opinion as you were under the impression that MS didn't f you in the ass before 2014. Afterwards your only recourse was to switch to the ps4 or stick it out with xbone. You decided to stick with xbone which of recent news has been shown as a detriment when 99% of all games are better on the other system. You consistently have to explain why your purchase is better than others or just as good, when others can be just like, yeah I bought the cheaper, more powerful system.

#13 Posted by shawn30 (4367 posts) -

@neo418 said:

@shawn30 said:

@neo418 said:

@shawn30 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVx-REsMEsQ

There opinions are similar to mine, and I know everyone has a different one. But for me resolution just isn't that huge a deal going forward. The fact sheets specs wise for the One and PS4 are well known, and the facts that multiplat games have and will likely continue to run better on PS4. But not everyone cares so much or thinks the difference is so great. Again, its my opinion only, but there's more than one opinion on the subject.

Wow you went to the trouble of finding some minority opinion that's similar to yours. Can I say butthurt?

Its an opinion just like yours or mine. Didnt have to go searching, as on Polygon website. How can you be butthurt about a opinion? Are you nine, lol

You are butthurt about you opinion as you were under the impression that MS didn't f you in the ass before 2014. Afterwards your only recourse was to switch to the ps4 or stick it out with xbone. You decided to stick with xbone which of recent news has been shown as a detriment when 99% of all games are better on the other system. You consistently have to explain why your purchase is better than others or just as good, when others can be just like, yeah I bought the cheaper, more powerful system.

Lol, there are 3.5/4 million One gamers out there. I bought the console that had the games I want to play the most. Its really that simple. Again, are you nine?

#14 Posted by kingtito (4965 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

Lems seemed to care immensely about resolution and fps last gen. What changed.

And before anyone says, cows too

Probably same reason cows didn't care about NPD sales numbers last gen but now it's all they care about.

#15 Posted by shawn30 (4367 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@Chutebox said:

Lems seemed to care immensely about resolution and fps last gen. What changed.

And before anyone says, cows too

Probably same reason cows didn't care about NPD sales numbers last gen but now it's all they care about.

Yeah, such is the way of Systems Wars... Oh well :)

#16 Posted by neo418 (481 posts) -

@shawn30 said:

@neo418 said:

@shawn30 said:

@neo418 said:

@shawn30 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVx-REsMEsQ

There opinions are similar to mine, and I know everyone has a different one. But for me resolution just isn't that huge a deal going forward. The fact sheets specs wise for the One and PS4 are well known, and the facts that multiplat games have and will likely continue to run better on PS4. But not everyone cares so much or thinks the difference is so great. Again, its my opinion only, but there's more than one opinion on the subject.

Wow you went to the trouble of finding some minority opinion that's similar to yours. Can I say butthurt?

Its an opinion just like yours or mine. Didnt have to go searching, as on Polygon website. How can you be butthurt about a opinion? Are you nine, lol

You are butthurt about you opinion as you were under the impression that MS didn't f you in the ass before 2014. Afterwards your only recourse was to switch to the ps4 or stick it out with xbone. You decided to stick with xbone which of recent news has been shown as a detriment when 99% of all games are better on the other system. You consistently have to explain why your purchase is better than others or just as good, when others can be just like, yeah I bought the cheaper, more powerful system.

Lol, there are 3.5/4 million One gamers out there. I bought the console that had the games I want to play the most. Its really that simple. Again, are you nine?

Well seeing as my account is from 2003, I think it's impossible to be nine. Could you do the math for me? Like really I need your intelligence right now to help me solve this. I mean what's 2014 to 2003? Yeah your right that's definitely nine. You bought the console that you were going to buy no matter what, no matter how shitty. Stop explaining to others why it was a good purchase, i.e. stop making threads. No one gives a shit.

#17 Edited by StriateEnd (497 posts) -

I agree with OP. One of the few people on this forum who talks sense.

But fuck Polygon.

#18 Posted by SolidTy (43339 posts) -

@StriateEnd said:

.

But fuck Polygon.

Same. QFT. Unimpressed since they started, and I have yet to enjoy any of their writers.

#19 Posted by shawn30 (4367 posts) -

@neo418 said:

@shawn30 said:

@neo418 said:

@shawn30 said:

@neo418 said:

@shawn30 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVx-REsMEsQ

There opinions are similar to mine, and I know everyone has a different one. But for me resolution just isn't that huge a deal going forward. The fact sheets specs wise for the One and PS4 are well known, and the facts that multiplat games have and will likely continue to run better on PS4. But not everyone cares so much or thinks the difference is so great. Again, its my opinion only, but there's more than one opinion on the subject.

Wow you went to the trouble of finding some minority opinion that's similar to yours. Can I say butthurt?

Its an opinion just like yours or mine. Didnt have to go searching, as on Polygon website. How can you be butthurt about a opinion? Are you nine, lol

You are butthurt about you opinion as you were under the impression that MS didn't f you in the ass before 2014. Afterwards your only recourse was to switch to the ps4 or stick it out with xbone. You decided to stick with xbone which of recent news has been shown as a detriment when 99% of all games are better on the other system. You consistently have to explain why your purchase is better than others or just as good, when others can be just like, yeah I bought the cheaper, more powerful system.

Lol, there are 3.5/4 million One gamers out there. I bought the console that had the games I want to play the most. Its really that simple. Again, are you nine?

Well seeing as my account is from 2003, I think it's impossible to be nine. Could you do the math for me? Like really I need your intelligence right now to help me solve this. I mean what's 2014 to 2003? Yeah your right that's definitely nine. You bought the console that you were going to buy no matter what, no matter how shitty. Stop explaining to others why it was a good purchase, i.e. stop making threads. No one gives a shit.

Lol then why in the fuck did you even come into this thread? Again, I get that you're not too bright. Sorry for not checking your profile to see your start date as you dont matter enough to me to do so and hadn't said anything I felt was worth remembering. If you dont like the topic and have nothing to add why are you even here? You're criticisizing someone on a gaming forum about discussing there reasons for buying a gaming console? Again, not to bright. And you may not be 9 but you are talking like it.

#20 Posted by Animal-Mother (26962 posts) -

As a now producer of a web series I can tell you by editing for hours on end most weeknights I do not give anymore shits about 1080 or 720. They almost look the same to me.

#21 Posted by narutosup (1571 posts) -

I have an 1080p HDTV and I want everything to display in 1080p.

#22 Posted by always_explicit (2898 posts) -

We need a resolution sticky. I couldnt care less about resolution but its annoying to see the board cluttered with these topics.

#23 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (14098 posts) -

@Floppy_Jim said:

Didn't watch but lemme guess, they try to say it isn't a big deal? Because Goddamn, I remember 1080p @ 60fps being talked about back at E3 2005. Perhaps they should raise their standards.

No one should ever trust Arthur "The secret Sauce,"

#24 Posted by GTSaiyanjin2 (5975 posts) -

I dont care about resolution either, especially on a console. It maters to me on the PC, but on a console I really dont care. The only reason its even a big deal atm is because the PS4 is making the xbone look so bad. A console that cost $100 less, yet runs all the games better.

#25 Posted by Animal-Mother (26962 posts) -

@GTSaiyanjin2 said:

I dont care about resolution either, especially on a console. It maters to me on the PC, but on a console I really dont care. The only reason its even a big deal atm is because the PS4 is making the xbone look so bad. A console that cost $100 less, yet runs all the games better.

Well the biggest thing about resolution on PC is just by switching from 1080 to 720 you get a killer boost in framerate.

#26 Posted by silversix_ (14623 posts) -

@narutosup said:

I have an 1080p HDTV and I want everything to display in 1080p.

Its 2014. EVERYTHING should be at a minimal resolution of 1080p or higher and that is not asking much at all.

#27 Edited by Floppy_Jim (25696 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Floppy_Jim said:

Didn't watch but lemme guess, they try to say it isn't a big deal? Because Goddamn, I remember 1080p @ 60fps being talked about back at E3 2005. Perhaps they should raise their standards.

No one should ever trust Arthur "The secret Sauce,"

Haha, this is all kinds of brilliant. I never realized his name was really pronounced "Geese"...

#28 Posted by treedoor (7648 posts) -

I'm not in the market for a console to play multiplats on, so the resolution differences aren't really important to me either.

#29 Posted by Boddicker (2741 posts) -

Doesn't MS own Polygon?

Of course they're going to say resolution is not important!!!!!!!!!!

#30 Edited by shawn30 (4367 posts) -

@Boddicker said:

Doesn't MS own Polygon?

Of course they're going to say resolution is not important!!!!!!!!!!

Tinfoil hat time :)

#31 Edited by Gue1 (10008 posts) -

@shawn30 said:

@kingtito said:

@Chutebox said:

Lems seemed to care immensely about resolution and fps last gen. What changed.

And before anyone says, cows too

Probably same reason cows didn't care about NPD sales numbers last gen but now it's all they care about.

Yeah, such is the way of Systems Wars... Oh well :)

what ways? Lems going back and forth and then grasping at straws with nonsensical spins?

Get that ass well lubricated because what's coming is not gonna be easy. ;)

#32 Posted by glez13 (8831 posts) -

Last Gen Lems could notice the huge difference between 1280X720 and 1280X700. This gen 720p is almost the same as 900p and 1080p is slightly noticeable over 900p.

#33 Edited by kingtito (4965 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

@shawn30 said:

@kingtito said:

@Chutebox said:

Lems seemed to care immensely about resolution and fps last gen. What changed.

And before anyone says, cows too

Probably same reason cows didn't care about NPD sales numbers last gen but now it's all they care about.

Yeah, such is the way of Systems Wars... Oh well :)

what ways? Lems going back and forth and then grasping at straws with nonsensical spins?

Get that ass well lubricated ready because what's coming is not gonna be easy. ;)

Cows going back and forth and then grasping at straws with nonsensical spins?

Yeah pretty much says it all. See I can do it as well. Cows are far worse as spinning everything. Just look at p2p online back in gen 7 to p2p in gen 8.

The word of the day cows is.......hypocrite. Can you use it in a sentence?

#34 Posted by kingtito (4965 posts) -

@glez13 said:

Last Gen Lems could notice the huge difference between 1280X720 and 1280X700. This gen 720p is almost the same as 900p and 1080p is slightly noticeable over 900p.

No dude, lems were talking about details, textures and fps, they weren't just arguing about resolution. Cows seem are the ones bragging about resoltion when last gen they couldn't care less.

#35 Edited by Salt_The_Fries (8810 posts) -

@Animal-Mother said:

As a now producer of a web series I can tell you by editing for hours on end most weeknights I do not give anymore shits about 1080 or 720. They almost look the same to me.

Jesus only knows!

#36 Edited by tyloss (829 posts) -

@kingtito: always playing victim.

OT: the fact the lems have to constantly defend their console purchase over and over again should tell you that it's sub par in comparison to the leading competitor.

From Price to Sales to Games to Graphics all of these aspects from a factual and arbitrary critical standpoint are in favor of the PS4. Funny that these are the same things that Xbox fans used as means of 'ownage' before.Seems the Cows are just giving it right back.

#37 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (7155 posts) -

Experience and performance that isn't broken on top of story and gameplay. Cows would hype a 1080p game if it got 4/10...............wait a second, they did.

#38 Edited by tyloss (829 posts) -

@FoxbatAlpha: and lems hyped Ryse. Except it was sub 1080p. Quit crying.

#39 Posted by kingtito (4965 posts) -

@tyloss said:

@kingtito: always playing victim.

OT: the fact the lems have to constantly defend their console purchase over and over again should tell you that it's sub par in comparison to the leading competitor.

From Price to Sales to Games to Graphics all of these aspects from a factual and arbitrary critical standpoint are in favor of the PS4. Funny that these are the same things that Xbox fans used as means of 'ownage' before.Seems the Cows are just giving it right back.

Victim of what? I own all consoles in every gen so what am I a victim of?

The fact that cows have to CONSTANTLY defend their console purchase over and over again should tell you that it's sub par. You don't see lems making thread after thread all day everyday promoting the XOne. All I see is cows constantly posting about the XOne all day everyday and if that doesn't spell insecure I don't know what does. Perhaps you should stop calling the kettle black.

Graphics and sales yes but games is not. Games are subjective and if you cared sooooo much about graphcis the PC is the way to go no doubt. Who cares about sales as long as lower sales don't lead to canceled games. The way both consoles are selling, I don't see that happening anytime soon.

You mean like lems did all last gen after what cows did in the 6th gen? This will be a never ending cycle so what exactly is your point?

#40 Edited by shellcase86 (1934 posts) -

Well, in general, it's good for Sony. More PS4 3rd party games sold = more royalty. If they continue to sell more units than MSFT, and the PS4 are a little better, then they'll get more revenue. I doubt the average consumer cares, though, honestly.

#41 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (7155 posts) -

@tyloss: I am we'll aware of Ryse. My point still stands. Ryse is much better than knack. Gameplay and graphics anyway.

#42 Edited by Riverwolf007 (23763 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

Lems seemed to care immensely about resolution and fps last gen. What changed.

And before anyone says, cows too

lol, yeah lems were really talking up that halo 640 upscale that the 360 was doing.

are you guys in the same reality as me?

when did lems ever care about resolution?

traditionally in sw nobody gave a damn about it except hermits.

and we all laughed at them for caring about something so meaningless and using it as an ownage point.

#43 Edited by tyloss (829 posts) -

@kingtito: Cows don't have to defend thier purchase. Just look in the media, from the NY Times to a lot of Gaming sites they claim the Playstaion 4 as the superior console from media capabilities to games.

Posting news that PS4 games run in 1080p while some Xbox One games subsequently run in half the resolution is 'defending'.

What's defending is like the TC posting a thread (like this one) claiming resolution doesn't matter.

Sales are very important. This month alone the PS4 outsold the Xbox One, Wii U, and Xbox 360 combined in North America. That'll could potentially lead to developers putting exclusive content, games, etc. on the more popular Device. (Ex. IOS)

Lems are just as bad and in some instances worse vice versa for Cows.

#44 Posted by tyloss (829 posts) -

@kingtito:

I'd also love for you to list hypocrisy acts cows have committed over the years. I'm sure it wouldn't match the amount of 180's Lems have had themselves.

#45 Posted by kingtito (4965 posts) -

@tyloss said:

@kingtito: Cows don't have to defend thier purchase. Just look in the media, from the NY Times to a lot of Gaming sites they claim the Playstaion 4 as the superior console from media capabilities to games.

Posting news that PS4 games run in 1080p while some Xbox One games subsequently run in half the resolution is 'defending'.

What's defending is like the TC posting a thread (like this one) claiming resolution doesn't matter.

Sales are very important. This month alone the PS4 outsold the Xbox One, Wii U, and Xbox 360 combined in North America. That'll could potentially lead to developers putting exclusive content, games, etc. on the more popular Device. (Ex. IOS)

Lems are just as bad and in some instances worse vice versa for Cows.

Is that why they creat thread after thread bashing the XOne, it's games and it's features? Yeah cows have been defending their purchase since the PS3 days and that hasn't changed.

Yes that is defending. They're trying to say they made the right choice in consoles when no one even cares. Constantly trying to convince others the PS4 is the better console day in and day out. They only thing PS4 has over the XOne is power and IMO power isn't what consoles are about.

He's stating his opinion and rightfully so when all you see is cows posting about X game running is X resolution while console A doesn't.

Sales are important up to a certain point. If sales are so low that furture games are either canceled then it matters but if sales are enough that it doesn't happen then it's moot. So what if the PS4 outsold the XOne this last month? The XOne outsold the PS4 in Dec so what's your point again cow? No that won't lead to developers putting exclusive content since that didn't happen last gen and the 360 outsold the PS3 almost every month in NA.

No, cows are the worst hand down. I know you don't think so but frankly, you sound like a cow.

#46 Posted by CrashNBurn281 (396 posts) -

I did not buy my PS4 because it does more games in 1080p without compromising. I bought it because it has the exclusives I want to play. Last gen my PS3 had a good deal of inferior multiplatform titles, and at the time I have could cared less. This time I have superior multiplatform titles, and once again I could care less.

Fanboys will change their arguments for a platform when hardware changes over the generation releases. PS2 days the PS fans stated that only the games mattered and the Xbox superior hardware did not matter. Xbox fans stated that the superior hardware and titles were the most important factor. Now its reversed. Its really a joke.

This is however system wars, and it has certain entertainment properties.

#47 Posted by kingtito (4965 posts) -

@tyloss said:

@kingtito:

I'd also love for you to list hypocrisy acts cows have committed over the years. I'm sure it wouldn't match the amount of 180's Lems have had themselves.

Seriously? Owe I see you're either trolling or you just got here. 1 example cows claimed all last gen p2p online was a rip off and they would never pay since it should always be free. Gen 8 comes around and p2p is suddenly ok because it's Sony and I get so many "free" games for a fee. Sounds like hypocrisy.

Look cow, you can stop trying to defend cows since you seem to be one. No one will take you seriously except for maybe you fellow cows.

#48 Edited by iloveatlus (275 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@tyloss said:

@kingtito: Cows don't have to defend thier purchase. Just look in the media, from the NY Times to a lot of Gaming sites they claim the Playstaion 4 as the superior console from media capabilities to games.

Posting news that PS4 games run in 1080p while some Xbox One games subsequently run in half the resolution is 'defending'.

What's defending is like the TC posting a thread (like this one) claiming resolution doesn't matter.

Sales are very important. This month alone the PS4 outsold the Xbox One, Wii U, and Xbox 360 combined in North America. That'll could potentially lead to developers putting exclusive content, games, etc. on the more popular Device. (Ex. IOS)

Lems are just as bad and in some instances worse vice versa for Cows.

Is that why they creat thread after thread bashing the XOne, it's games and it's features? Yeah cows have been defending their purchase since the PS3 days and that hasn't changed.

Yes that is defending. They're trying to say they made the right choice in consoles when no one even cares. Constantly trying to convince others the PS4 is the better console day in and day out. They only thing PS4 has over the XOne is power and IMO power isn't what consoles are about.

He's stating his opinion and rightfully so when all you see is cows posting about X game running is X resolution while console A doesn't.

Sales are important up to a certain point. If sales are so low that furture games are either canceled then it matters but if sales are enough that it doesn't happen then it's moot. So what if the PS4 outsold the XOne this last month? The XOne outsold the PS4 in Dec so what's your point again cow? No that won't lead to developers putting exclusive content since that didn't happen last gen and the 360 outsold the PS3 almost every month in NA.

No, cows are the worst hand down. I know you don't think so but frankly, you sound like a cow.

All I see are cows bashing Xbone. Never seen them defend the Playstation 4. I see plenty of lemmings run around every internet forum copying and pasting

"It's not about resolution"

"500 dollar isn't even a lot"

"Just wait for cloud"

"it's not about FPS"

"Developer said Xbone is harder to developed for"

"Give developers some time"

"Wait for the drivers upgrade"

"If I wanted to play multiplatform games, I would of kept my Xbox 360, I only play exclusives"

#49 Posted by Chutebox (37227 posts) -

@Riverwolf007 said:

@Chutebox said:

Lems seemed to care immensely about resolution and fps last gen. What changed.

And before anyone says, cows too

lol, yeah lems were really talking up that halo 640 upscale that the 360 was doing.

are you guys in the same reality as me?

when did lems ever care about resolution?

traditionally in sw nobody gave a damn about it except hermits.

and we all laughed at them for caring about something so meaningless and using it as an ownage point.

No bud. Lems were the ones to always boast about the minimal differences between multiplat games.

#50 Posted by Zaibach (13451 posts) -

using polygon is not going to help your argument, only hurt it.