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#1 TeamR
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For all those wondering why current consoles would not be able to handle games like crysis in all it's glory

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"It's absolute nonsense to think that consoles are at the cutting edge," said Roy Taylor, vice president of content relations at Nvidia, the world's biggest manufacturer of graphics cards.

"As good as consoles are, they are so far behind the PC gaming experience that there is no comparison.

Nvidia's latest high-end graphics cards, the 8800 series, can easily produce graphical effects that tax the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, such as motion blur, depth of field and volumetric smoke.

Mr Taylor said: "Fog, smoke or mist in games until now have been flat and don't respond to objects. Volumetric effects mean they are dynamic - a helicopter can now displace cloud or smoke, or a character can step through the fog realistically."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7096891.stm

Nvidia provides the graphics grunt for the PlayStation 3, while rival ATI provides the imaging hardware for the Xbox 360.

Mr Taylor points out that the latest graphics cards can draw twice as many pixels, twice the screen resolution, as a PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360.

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#2 sadikovic
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Bit of a no brainer that an ULTRA kicks the Xenos and RSX's arse all over the place.
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#3 JocktheMotie
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Yeah, everyone knows this. No need to really rub it in. I love the smoke in Crysis, watching it billow out of the jeeps and such and drift away as the wind catches it. Really cool effects.
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#4 Nerkcon
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This is getting boring. Hermits has been fighting us with their hardware for a long time now. Show us some mods and video game play of games being played at high in. The talk about higher graphics and posting them have gotten sooo booooorrinnnnng. :P Videos of high end game play please?

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GRAPHIC WHORE
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#6 Pro_wrestler
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Why can't his card max out Crysis in DX10 at a consistant framerate.
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#7 sirk1264
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Bit of a no brainer that an ULTRA kicks the Xenos and RSX's arse all over the place.sadikovic

The Ultra not only kicks them but it spits on them, laughs at them, stomps on them, throws them around, and even with one arm tied behind its back **** slaps them to the next dimension.

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Why can't his card max out Crysis in DX10 at a consistant framerate.Pro_wrestler

Because the game is demanding... doesn't make your console any better either since its s***** :|

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#9 catlin_czirr
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Well the ultra also cost more than the price of an entire gaming console, so yeah...
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#10 muscleserge
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Well the ultra also cost more than the price of an entire gaming console, so yeah...catlin_czirr
Get an 8800GT and oc it a little, you get ultra performance for $250.
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This is getting boring. Hermits has been fighting us with their hardware for a long time now. Show us some mods and video game play of games being played at high in. The talk about higher graphics and posting them have gotten sooo booooorrinnnnng. :P Videos of high end game play please?

Nerkcon

http://stage6.divx.com/user/verw3948/video/1829753/Crysis-Jungle-Fight

http://stage6.divx.com/user/Plaski87/video/1793969/The-Witcher-Gameplay---Swamps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXNksCRglFc

http://stage6.divx.com/user/Wartzay/video/1851689/Crysis-2007-10-05-18-01-12-82

http://stage6.divx.com/user/Jeuxvideomax2/video/1434606/Company-of-Heroes-:-Opposing-Fronts

http://stage6.divx.com/user/bluenine/video/1492525/world-in-conflict---Feuerland/Fireland

http://stage6.divx.com/user/thade2001/video/1337853/STALKER-Nuclear-Power-Plant

http://stage6.divx.com/user/thade2001/video/1357340/STALKER-Big-Wheel

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#12 A_zombie
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PC vs Console is like a 1969 Dodge Charger vs Geo Metro. You can't beat a HEMI. The console can't stand the onslaught the PC delivers.

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#13 karoliner72
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This is nothing new, of course consoles are behind PC´s in terms of performance, have always been like that. Just glad I own a high end PC :) When that PC can´t deliever what I want I just get a new graphics card and in extreme case a new CPU, though CPU´s last longer.

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"The PC is finally back up where it belongs," said Mr Diemer.

He added: "The innovation is happening on the PC; but that's always been the case."

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"The PC is finally back up where it belongs," said Mr Diemer.

He added: "The innovation is happening on the PC; but that's always been the case."

RK-Mara

As much as I back up that statement but it also goes to Nintendo for inventing the motion controls.

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yes we all know this any sane person knows this but i guess now the insane fanboys who claim PS3/360 can do Crysis can shut up.
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]Why can't his card max out Crysis in DX10 at a consistant framerate.sadikovic

Because the game is demanding... doesn't make your console any better either since its s***** :|

Who said anything about consoles being "better." With its ultra-realism Crysis still will fail at being the most beautiful game this gen.

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Why can't his card max out Crysis in DX10 at a consistant framerate.Pro_wrestler

Why cant the 360 even play Halo 3 in HD ? :lol:
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:roll: Because we all know technology never improves and PC's aren't upgradable giving them the ability to surpass a console released in 2005 technically...-.-' what a dumb arguement.
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For all those wondering why current consoles would not be able to handle games like crysis in all it's glory

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"It's absolute nonsense to think that consoles are at the cutting edge," said Roy Taylor, vice president of content relations at Nvidia, the world's biggest manufacturer of graphics cards.

"As good as consoles are, they are so far behind the PC gaming experience that there is no comparison.

Nvidia's latest high-end graphics cards, the 8800 series, can easily produce graphical effects that tax the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, such as motion blur, depth of field and volumetric smoke.

Mr Taylor said: "Fog, smoke or mist in games until now have been flat and don't respond to objects. Volumetric effects mean they are dynamic - a helicopter can now displace cloud or smoke, or a character can step through the fog realistically."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7096891.stm

Nvidia provides the graphics grunt for the PlayStation 3, while rival ATI provides the imaging hardware for the Xbox 360.

Mr Taylor points out that the latest graphics cards can draw twice as many pixels, twice the screen resolution, as a PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360.

TeamR

yup! :D ...but wait 2d smoke? bioshocks smoke and need ofr speed pro streets smoke is pretty snazzy...

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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]Why can't his card max out Crysis in DX10 at a consistant framerate.anshul89

Why cant the 360 even play Halo 3 in HD ? :lol:

Funny, Halo 3 got a 9.5 because its a good game despite it having "Bad graphics"...not because its some glorified tech demo. IGN.AU seems to agree since their score is a whole point lower than IGN's score of 9.4 which actually praised its graphics. They seem to look past its pretty unobtainable visuals and recognize its shallow unimaginative universe for what it is and thats average at best.

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GRAPHIC WHOREwaza000

Ironic that people will call other this and than go and complain about the fact that they have to turn down settings in Crysis to play...if you don't care about the graphics so much than the system requirments of Crysis really shouldn't be that much of a problem...and on the gameplay the department Crysis is as amazing as its graphics.

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[QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]Why can't his card max out Crysis in DX10 at a consistant framerate.Pro_wrestler


Why cant the 360 even play Halo 3 in HD ? :lol:

Funny, Halo 3 got a 9.5 because its a good game despite it having "Bad graphics"...not because its some glorified tech demo. IGN.AU seems to agree since their score is a whole point lower than IGN's score of 9.4 which actually praised its graphics. They seem to look past its pretty unobtainable visuals and recognize its shallow unimaginative universe for what it is and thats average at best.

Have you played the game? The gameplay of Crysis is better than the gtaphics it offers. halo 3 was a linear piece of garbage like most other shooters. Half life 2 was save by the far better story.

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They seem to look past its pretty unobtainable visuals and recognize its shallow unimaginative universe for what it is and thats average at best.

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ROFLMAO !!! If Crysis' gameplay is average at best, then Halo 3 is crap at best. If Halo 3 gets Shooter of the year or GOTY i will change my sig to "Halo 3 SOTY (or GOTY). Hermits got pwned !!!" for 1 month.

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#25 Ilived
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Shouldn't he be worried about releasing better drivers for Crysis than this?
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For all those wondering why current consoles would not be able to handle games like crysis in all it's glory

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"It's absolute nonsense to think that consoles are at the cutting edge," said Roy Taylor, vice president of content relations at Nvidia, the world's biggest manufacturer of graphics cards.

"As good as consoles are, they are so far behind the PC gaming experience that there is no comparison.

Nvidia's latest high-end graphics cards, the 8800 series, can easily produce graphical effects that tax the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, such as motion blur, depth of field and volumetric smoke.

Mr Taylor said: "Fog, smoke or mist in games until now have been flat and don't respond to objects. Volumetric effects mean they are dynamic - a helicopter can now displace cloud or smoke, or a character can step through the fog realistically."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7096891.stm

Nvidia provides the graphics grunt for the PlayStation 3, while rival ATI provides the imaging hardware for the Xbox 360.

Mr Taylor points out that the latest graphics cards can draw twice as many pixels, twice the screen resolution, as a PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360.

TeamR

Bit of confusion at that second to last statement; are you saying a PS3 has a Nvidia in it or are you saying that they would grunt or growl at the PS3?

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#27 MyopicCanadian
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it's a ridiculous point to make, especially considering that the Xbox 360 was released in 2005, at which point it WAS comparable to PC hardware.

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#28 Shomb22
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So from now on SW should be called System & Card Wars. SCW.

A PC isn't superior without its advanced gaming card.

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#29 PS3_3DO
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I think someone should tell this guy that the 8800ultra can't run over 30fps in Crysis in DX10 at max settings. :lol:

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#31 Olidsc
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I think someone should tell this guy that the 8800ultra can't run over 30fps in Crysis in DX10 at max settings. :lol:

PS3_3DO

I think someone should tell you that Crysis can't run at all on consoles.

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#32 Zeliard9
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So from now on SW should be called System & Card Wars. SCW.

A PC isn't superior without its advanced gaming card.

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Console games on SDTVs are super impressive looking.