PC Gamers: Steam vs GoG vs Origin vs Amazon DD

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#1 Posted by charizard1605 (61779 posts) -

I'm going to ask all PC gamers a simple question; even though I know (and expect, honestly) one of these three to far and away take the votes, I still want to hear some compelling arguments for all sides.

So PC gamers, I want to know: Steam, GoG, Amazon DD, or Origin? Which download service do you find the best?

STEAM:

+ Largest catalog of games
+ Cheap prices
+ Community features like Screenshot sharing, user profiles, friend feeds, messaging, chat, and more
+ Periodic Steam sales that offer some of the best games available at throwaway prices
+ Supports non Steam Games too
+ Showcase for indie games
+ Buy a game once and it runs on any OS you may own
- Steam is a form of DRM and may support additional DRM on top of that.
- Games are only licensed to the end user, and if Steam ever goes bust, you may lose access to all your games.

GoG:

+ Some old games found nowhere else are found on GoG
+ Incredibly cheap prices, and GoG sells you the full package necessary to run a particularly old game (like emulators, compatibility patches etc.) as part of the package if you buy some ridiculously old game
+ NO DRM
+ Periodic sales across their catalog that give away games at throwaway prices
+ Buy a game once and you gain access to it on any OS you may own
+ Games come with bonus content, like manuals, collectors items available digitally as PDFs, wallpapers, and more.
- Limited catalog compared to Steam
- No community features at all; GoG exists as a storefront on the web, and as a download client, but it offers nothing else

ORIGIN:

+ Nice catalog of EA games as well as several third party games
+ Future EA games can only be had on Origin digitally
+ Existence of community features; although not as full fledged as Steam's, they still outdo any other competing service on the market
+ Origin gives you a unified account across games on any and all systems that Origin supports
+ Pleasing user interface on the client
- Windows only
- Heavy form of DRM restrictions, as well as a restrictive ToU
- Catalog is limited; many notable third parties do not support Origin yet
- Generally, there are no sales

AMAZON DD:

+ Huge catalog
+ Frequent sales that often sell bundles of games at throaway prices
+ All third parties support it
+ Not locked to Amazon's DRM; therefore, games bought from Amazon DD can be added to Origin or Steam if you want
- No community features at all. Amazon DD exists just as a download client
- A single game sold on Amazon DD may have multiple forms of DRM
- Game sales are not OS unified; therefore, if a game was bought for PC on Amazon DD, you have to buy it separately to gain access to it on Mac.

So PC gamers... which one do you like the best, and why? And can you come up with compelling arguments for all of them?

Please let's have an intelligent discussion. No 'lol Origin sucks because EA,' please; try and assess each of these rationally, fairly, objectively.

Go.

#2 Posted by Blabadon (28540 posts) -
Piracy, duh. We're talking about PC gamers [spoiler] Steam of course [/spoiler]
#3 Posted by PhazonBlazer (11994 posts) -

Origin because of free games :P

Seriously though I'd say Steam.

#4 Posted by GamerwillzPS (8531 posts) -

Steam obviously, but it's bed time so I'm too tired to write more. :P

Will probably come back tomorrow for another post.

#5 Posted by Master_ShakeXXX (13361 posts) -

You already know which one is gonna dominate the poll.

#6 Posted by charizard1605 (61779 posts) -

You already know which one is gonna dominate the poll.

Master_ShakeXXX

I'm going to ask all PC gamers a simple question; even though I know (and expect, honestly) one of these to far and away take the votes, I still want to hear some compelling arguments for all sides.

charizard1605
#7 Posted by Master_ShakeXXX (13361 posts) -

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

You already know which one is gonna dominate the poll.

charizard1605

I'm going to ask all PC gamers a simple question; even though I know (and expect, honestly) one of these to far and away take the votes, I still want to hear some compelling arguments for all sides.

charizard1605

I just don't even see the point of the poll.

#8 Posted by CanYouDiglt (7610 posts) -
It seems to me overall Amazon has the better deals now.
#9 Posted by Phoenix534 (17774 posts) -

I use Steam the most, however I do prefer using GoG. No DRM>DRM.

#10 Posted by BPoole96 (22814 posts) -
Steam > Amazon > GoG >>>>>>>>> Origins. I like what GoG is doing with being DRM free and not doing regional pricing, but their catalog is really lacking in terms of modern games. I know there are to a of classics but I did not play PC back when those games released and feel like I might just think they're outdated and unenjoyable. Steam is easily the best with all the awesome features it offers and the crazy seasonal sales. Amazon has really stepped their game up and often have sales that rival Steam's but there do not offer any additional features. Origins is just lame and underdeveloped.
#11 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
GOG is what gamers should be supporting. No DRM in a time when every security measure by big companies is getting more and more ridiculous. If those guys get Linux support then I'll ask them to marry me. Afterwards Steam because of the deals, diversity and because they are starting with Linux support!! The rest are irrelevant or I buy from Humble Bundle or indie devs directly.
#12 Posted by Led_poison (10144 posts) -
dey all good hunny
#13 Posted by IAmNot_fun (3336 posts) -
GoG is directed at different audience so I dont really see it as a competition of Steam or other DD services.
#14 Posted by Cherokee_Jack (32198 posts) -

I really don't care about Steam having DRM, it's the best in all other areas. And getting better. Big Picture Mode, though it's a little rough right now, is pretty awesome.

#15 Posted by DarkLink77 (31886 posts) -

Steam and GoG. Amazon is okay, though.

#16 Posted by Jonwh18 (9350 posts) -

No GFWL? I am dissapoint Charizard.

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

#17 Posted by Goyoshi12 (9687 posts) -

Steam and GOG simply because of Fallout.

#18 Posted by ShadowDeathX (10838 posts) -
Where ever the game is the cheapest at the time I want it. I use all the services.
#19 Posted by whiskeystrike (12096 posts) -

Steam because of community features but also GoG because of no DRM.

Luckily we don't have to actually choose

#20 Posted by the_bi99man (11059 posts) -

Origin because of free games :P

Seriously though I'd say Steam.

PhazonBlazer

I'm currently enjoying Crysis Warhead, thanks to Origin. Got 9 more games on deck.:lol:

And, now that I've actually used Origin for the first time, I have a legitimate opinion on it.

It sucks.

The interface is ugly, compared to Steam, in my opinion.

The selection of games is next to nothing. Just EA games, 90% of which I'm not the least bit interested in. I actually had to do some serious digging last weekend to even find 10 games I'd be willing to take from them for free.

And finally, the worst part of it, I think: Download and install are separate. I don't have a particularly big harddrive, and I've almost always got less than 20gb available. I'm constantly moving things around, finishing games so that I can uninstall them to make room for more. Several years ago, a friend of mine introduced me to pirating games, and the very first thing I pointed out as a negative to that (aside from the moral dilemma), is the HDD space requirements. Using the most common piracy methods, you have to have twice as much space available as the game actually needs. Example: if you're pirating a 6gb game, you need 6gb available to download the disc image, PLUS 6gb to install the game. Even if you delete the image after the fact, leaving only the 6gb game, you still had to have 12 available to complete the process of downloading and installing.

With Steam, the download and install are the same process, so you don't need extra space. This game is going to take up 10 gb on your HDD, so you only need 10 gb, as Steam just downloads the game files directly to the install directory, in one move. Origin downloads the game, then installs it, much like you'd have to do if you pirated it. I decided to finally try it out by installing Crysis Warhead. had like 13 gigs available, figured it would be plenty. Origin tells me it'll take 16gb available to install, even though the game is only going to take up 8 in the end. Seriously, origin?

#21 Posted by TwistedShade (3138 posts) -

Voted Amazon obviously i use Steam alot with chat and launching games from it. But Amazon has ALOT better sales and that's what matters to me.

#22 Posted by Blackbond (24515 posts) -

Is there anythign that carries Mechwarrior 2, Mercenaries and Ghost Bear Legacy?

#23 Posted by illmatic87 (15519 posts) -
GamersGate is arguably the most consumer friendly digital distribution service. It just has some odd regional issues.
#24 Posted by DarkLink77 (31886 posts) -
[QUOTE="illmatic87"]GamersGate is arguably the most consumer friendly digital distribution service. It just has some odd regional issues.

Didn't even know they existed. They have some good deals. Though at the moment they're charging more for the normal edition of ACIII than the Deluxe Edition. :?
#25 Posted by FGMPR (804 posts) -

GreenMan Gaming deserves some kudos here. Being an Australian and having to deal with inflated prices, GMG often offers its games for half or even less off Steam prices, always delivers its keys in a prompt manner and even accepts digital trade in's for some of its games. It has its own client, which is a bad thing, but for buying steamworks games, its my number one store.

#26 Posted by starjet905 (1971 posts) -
As someone who has a very crappy internet connection with abnormally high latency, I'm going to go with Origin. Only Origin downloads manage to give me the maximum possible speed. Steam only gives like half of what I can get. Probably something to do with the mess that my connection is, but nevertheless, Origin manages to work with it.
#27 Posted by Rattlesnake_8 (18418 posts) -
Steam followed by gog.com because it's the only place to get some of those older games which are still so amazing to play.
#28 Posted by Goyoshi12 (9687 posts) -

[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

Origin because of free games :P

Seriously though I'd say Steam.

the_bi99man

I'm currently enjoying Crysis Warhead, thanks to Origin. Got 9 more games on deck.:lol:

And, now that I've actually used Origin for the first time, I have a legitimate opinion on it.

It sucks.

The interface is ugly, compared to Steam, in my opinion.

The selection of games is next to nothing. Just EA games, 90% of which I'm not the least bit interested in. I actually had to do some serious digging last weekend to even find 10 games I'd be willing to take from them for free.

And finally, the worst part of it, I think: Download and install are separate. I don't have a particularly big harddrive, and I've almost always got less than 20gb available. I'm constantly moving things around, finishing games so that I can uninstall them to make room for more. Several years ago, a friend of mine introduced me to pirating games, and the very first thing I pointed out as a negative to that (aside from the moral dilemma), is the HDD space requirements. Using the most common piracy methods, you have to have twice as much space available as the game actually needs. Example: if you're pirating a 6gb game, you need 6gb available to download the disc image, PLUS 6gb to install the game. Even if you delete the image after the fact, leaving only the 6gb game, you still had to have 12 available to complete the process of downloading and installing.

With Steam, the download and install are the same process, so you don't need extra space. This game is going to take up 10 gb on your HDD, so you only need 10 gb, as Steam just downloads the game files directly to the install directory, in one move. Origin downloads the game, then installs it, much like you'd have to do if you pirated it. I decided to finally try it out by installing Crysis Warhead. had like 13 gigs available, figured it would be plenty. Origin tells me it'll take 16gb available to install, even though the game is only going to take up 8 in the end. Seriously, origin?

You're lucky that at least ONE of your games on Origin is working. For some reason Origin fvcked me over with BF:BC2 and now I can't play it at all. I can't even redeem it for some odd reason and I think it had something to do with me updating my Origin account; when I did that it apparently erased my free games like BF:BC2 and Mass Effect 2 from the list of games. I mean...really? You just...wipe my free games off my list even though they were legitament? And then there's this BS?

I'm sorry....but anyone who says Origin is better than Steam needs to go to the hospital and get a surgery for their head that is apparently shoved up their god damn @$$.

#29 Posted by the_bi99man (11059 posts) -

You're lucky that at least ONE of your games on Origin is working. For some reason Origin fvcked me over with BF:BC2 and now I can't play it at all. I can't even redeem it for some odd reason and I think it had something to do with me updating my Origin account; when I did that it apparently erased my free games like BF:BC2 and Mass Effect 2 from the list of games. I mean...really? You just...wipe my free games off my list even though they were legitament? And then there's this BS?

I'm sorry....but anyone who says Origin is better than Steam needs to go to the hospital and get a surgery for their head that is apparently shoved up their god damn @$$.

Goyoshi12

Thats dicks. I don't have much experience with origin. I only just made an account last weekend to take advantage of the "sale". Got 10 free games, and they're all still in my library, although Crysis Warhead is the only one I've tried installing so far.

#30 Posted by Slashkice (13647 posts) -

Steam for me, they're the stick by which I measure every other service. It has the most relevant features, widespread support, and great prices.

Origin is for EA games, don't ever see myself using it for third-party stuff. Amazon is cool, but I just buy from them so I can add a game to Steam/Origin. I don't really use GoG, but I appreciate what they're doing.

#31 Posted by tagyhag (15867 posts) -
Steam ofc but I REALLY want Green Man Gaming to get bigger. They offer fantastic deals for games not even released and their resell option is fantastic. I'm really hoping they get big enough that they force Steam to add a selling option.
#32 Posted by funsohng (28994 posts) -

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

Origin because of free games :P

Seriously though I'd say Steam.

Goyoshi12

I'm currently enjoying Crysis Warhead, thanks to Origin. Got 9 more games on deck.:lol:

And, now that I've actually used Origin for the first time, I have a legitimate opinion on it.

It sucks.

The interface is ugly, compared to Steam, in my opinion.

The selection of games is next to nothing. Just EA games, 90% of which I'm not the least bit interested in. I actually had to do some serious digging last weekend to even find 10 games I'd be willing to take from them for free.

And finally, the worst part of it, I think: Download and install are separate. I don't have a particularly big harddrive, and I've almost always got less than 20gb available. I'm constantly moving things around, finishing games so that I can uninstall them to make room for more. Several years ago, a friend of mine introduced me to pirating games, and the very first thing I pointed out as a negative to that (aside from the moral dilemma), is the HDD space requirements. Using the most common piracy methods, you have to have twice as much space available as the game actually needs. Example: if you're pirating a 6gb game, you need 6gb available to download the disc image, PLUS 6gb to install the game. Even if you delete the image after the fact, leaving only the 6gb game, you still had to have 12 available to complete the process of downloading and installing.

With Steam, the download and install are the same process, so you don't need extra space. This game is going to take up 10 gb on your HDD, so you only need 10 gb, as Steam just downloads the game files directly to the install directory, in one move. Origin downloads the game, then installs it, much like you'd have to do if you pirated it. I decided to finally try it out by installing Crysis Warhead. had like 13 gigs available, figured it would be plenty. Origin tells me it'll take 16gb available to install, even though the game is only going to take up 8 in the end. Seriously, origin?

You're lucky that at least ONE of your games on Origin is working. For some reason Origin fvcked me over with BF:BC2 and now I can't play it at all. I can't even redeem it for some odd reason and I think it had something to do with me updating my Origin account; when I did that it apparently erased my free games like BF:BC2 and Mass Effect 2 from the list of games. I mean...really? You just...wipe my free games off my list even though they were legitament? And then there's this BS?

I'm sorry....but anyone who says Origin is better than Steam needs to go to the hospital and get a surgery for their head that is apparently shoved up their god damn @$$.

Meh, my Battlefield 2 works fine. Then again, that's the only game I got with the promotion..... Which means what I did was legit.
#33 Posted by funsohng (28994 posts) -
Steam ofc but I REALLY want Green Man Gaming to get bigger. They offer fantastic deals for games not even released and their resell option is fantastic. I'm really hoping they get big enough that they force Steam to add a selling option.tagyhag
Not even selling, trading games between friends would be good enough for me.
#34 Posted by DarkLink77 (31886 posts) -
[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Steam ofc but I REALLY want Green Man Gaming to get bigger. They offer fantastic deals for games not even released and their resell option is fantastic. I'm really hoping they get big enough that they force Steam to add a selling option.funsohng
Not even selling, trading games between friends would be good enough for me.

^This. I have a couple games that I would love to give to my friends by Valve won't let me.
#35 Posted by Masenkoe (4888 posts) -

Steam because it comes with an entire community. Followed by Amazon DD for amazing sales.

#36 Posted by DragonfireXZ95 (19822 posts) -
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]GOG is what gamers should be supporting. No DRM in a time when every security measure by big companies is getting more and more ridiculous. If those guys get Linux support then I'll ask them to marry me. Afterwards Steam because of the deals, diversity and because they are starting with Linux support!! The rest are irrelevant or I buy from Humble Bundle or indie devs directly.

You can support GoG, however, you have to support one of the other outlets if you want to play new games. I can't buy Chivalry: Medieval Warfare on GoG.com.
#37 Posted by with_teeth26 (6293 posts) -

Steam + Amazon DD + Green Man Gaming is a winning formula.

I'll jump on whichever site/distributor has the best price though.

#38 Posted by Vesica_Prime (7062 posts) -

Steam > GoG > Amazong DD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Origin.

#39 Posted by Cherokee_Jack (32198 posts) -

Though at the moment they're charging more for the normal edition of ACIII than the Deluxe Edition. :?DarkLink77

Naw, they just put the wrong prices under each box shot because they're idiots. The regular version is cheaper.

#40 Posted by Ly_the_Fairy (8541 posts) -

As someone who has a very crappy internet connection with abnormally high latency, I'm going to go with Origin. Only Origin downloads manage to give me the maximum possible speed. Steam only gives like half of what I can get. Probably something to do with the mess that my connection is, but nevertheless, Origin manages to work with it.starjet905

If you haven't yet, you could try changing where your downloads come from on Steam. Just open up Steam, and in the top left corner go to:

Steam > Settings > Downloads > Download Region

And stick it on the closest server to where you live.

Anyways as for me Steam is the best.

Personally I prefer GOG with it's no-drm policy, all the bundled goodies, and such, but it just doesn't have the community aspect that Steam has. Whenever I'm PC gaming I have Steam running for what it offers.

I wish GOG would expand on their download client to include friends list, chatting, screenshots, etc. Only then could I truly say GoG is the best overall service.

Of course until GOG supports all new titles I'll still be using Steam for every day PC gaming.

#41 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -
Steam.
#42 Posted by PannicAtack (21040 posts) -

I'm a bit of a Steam man, myself, but GOG has some nice things going for it, like the inclusion of things like art books and the like. Shame Steam doesn't do that.

#43 Posted by Maroxad (8751 posts) -

Honestly it dephens on their use.

Steam is a good service, but a pretty lousy store for us europeans.
Origin gives free games :D
Never used Amazon's service
Gog gives good old games and treats us fairly, but given the nature of the store, it does not always have the games I want ;)

Anyway Gog>GMG>Steam>Origin

Greenmangaming does not pretend that 1 dollar is 1 euro. I also get considerably better deals on Greenmangaming than I get on Steam. Also, you can resell games on GMG, which is another plus.

#44 Posted by DarkLink77 (31886 posts) -

Honestly it dephens on their use.

Steam is a good service, but a pretty lousy store for us europeans.
Origin gives free games :D
Never used Amazon's service
Gog gives good old games and treats us fairly, but given the nature of the store, it does not always have the games I want ;)

Anyway Gog>GMG>Steam>Origin

Greenmangaming does not pretend that 1 dollar is 1 euro. I also get considerably better deals on Greenmangaming than I get on Steam. Also, you can resell games on GMG, which is another plus.

Maroxad
So I have a question about GMG. For the games that it says require Steam, do those games become linked with my Steam account?
#45 Posted by Maroxad (8751 posts) -

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Honestly it dephens on their use.

Steam is a good service, but a pretty lousy store for us europeans.
Origin gives free games :D
Never used Amazon's service
Gog gives good old games and treats us fairly, but given the nature of the store, it does not always have the games I want ;)

Anyway Gog>GMG>Steam>Origin

Greenmangaming does not pretend that 1 dollar is 1 euro. I also get considerably better deals on Greenmangaming than I get on Steam. Also, you can resell games on GMG, which is another plus.

DarkLink77

So I have a question about GMG. For the games that it says require Steam, do those games become linked with my Steam account?

I havent used capsule yet (their downloader), but I do know that I product key I obtained from them has been usable on my steam account to register my game.

That said, I am pretty sure that games that require steam will be linked to your steam account.

#46 Posted by Krelian-co (13098 posts) -

steam, but gog is giving great service lately, hope they grow and keep the quality service.

origin, welll... it can burn for all i care

#47 Posted by soulitane (13976 posts) -
[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Honestly it dephens on their use.

Steam is a good service, but a pretty lousy store for us europeans.
Origin gives free games :D
Never used Amazon's service
Gog gives good old games and treats us fairly, but given the nature of the store, it does not always have the games I want ;)

Anyway Gog>GMG>Steam>Origin

Greenmangaming does not pretend that 1 dollar is 1 euro. I also get considerably better deals on Greenmangaming than I get on Steam. Also, you can resell games on GMG, which is another plus.

DarkLink77
So I have a question about GMG. For the games that it says require Steam, do those games become linked with my Steam account?

I'm pretty sure it is.
#48 Posted by DarkLink77 (31886 posts) -

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Honestly it dephens on their use.

Steam is a good service, but a pretty lousy store for us europeans.
Origin gives free games :D
Never used Amazon's service
Gog gives good old games and treats us fairly, but given the nature of the store, it does not always have the games I want ;)

Anyway Gog>GMG>Steam>Origin

Greenmangaming does not pretend that 1 dollar is 1 euro. I also get considerably better deals on Greenmangaming than I get on Steam. Also, you can resell games on GMG, which is another plus.

Maroxad

So I have a question about GMG. For the games that it says require Steam, do those games become linked with my Steam account?

I havent used capsule yet (their downloader), but I do know that I product key I obtained from them has been usable on my steam account to register my game.

That's pretty cool. I may start buying games from them, then. They have ludicrously good deals.

#49 Posted by famicommander (8524 posts) -
GoG. I don't buy digital games with DRM. I use Steam but only when games I buy at retail/in indie bundles activate through it. I don't buy from the Steam Store.
#50 Posted by arto1223 (4404 posts) -

Steam is just so feature rich and has a great store with amazing deals. I love GoG for the classics, the additional content that comes with them, and the sure to run on modern day OS aspect. Origin just pisses me off and I only use it for ME3 and BF3 so far. Amazon has great deals every now and then.

But again, Steam with its deals, community, Workshop, tradding/inventory, Greenlight, etc... is just so good.