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#451  Edited By PhazonBlazer
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In other news, Knack sold more than Titanfall in the same time period

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#453  Edited By misterpmedia
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

The tears on Twitter, you guys. The tears. The lemming scum are even denying it's 7 million PS4s sold to consumers!

throw us some links to laugh at please, and ty.

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#454  Edited By blackace
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@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito Face it, if microsoft had sold to consumers they'd state sold-through and not shipped to retailers. Guaranteed. Sorry, kiddo.

None of the numbers are Sold To Consumers. Over 7 million sold is to retailers. Over 5 million is to retailers. That's the way it always is unless they actually say "Sold to Consumers" and they've only did that after launch day when both PS4 and XB1 sold 1 million to consumers in 24hrs. So yes, you're right. None of these numbers are sold to consumers. Who the hell is saying that?

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@Mkavanaugh77 said:

Did you know that Titanfall got a 9/10 AAA and Infamous only got a 8/10?

and is higher on metacritic?

Fastest selling game because Killzone and Knack failed badly and cows needed a new game to play asap which happened to be infamous.

Fastest selling game because the other games sucked is nothing to brag about

Need a hug?

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@Mkavanaugh77 said:

Did you know that Titanfall got a 9/10 AAA and Infamous only got a 8/10?

and is higher on metacritic?

Fastest selling game because Killzone and Knack failed badly and cows needed a new game to play asap which happened to be infamous.

Fastest selling game because the other games sucked is nothing to brag about

lol.. the butthurt.

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#457  Edited By lbjkurono23
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@tonitorsi said:

@lbjkurono23 said:
@tonitorsi said:

@lbjkurono23 said:

@Desmonic said:

@lbjkurono23 said:
@Desmonic said:

I guess we could say........ TitanFell!!

Aawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yeeeaahh! XD

You gonna get us labeled cows. lol

whos making all them funny gifs?

NeoGaf. Gif heaven, for anything really :P They have some really creative and talented people making them for any big event!

Link?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2

Thanks cap'n

you're welcome :PLol that place is insane with gifs and all.

That place is insane with all the gifs.

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#458 PhazonBlazer
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@Mkavanaugh77 said:

Did you know that Titanfall got a 9/10 AAA and Infamous only got a 8/10?

and is higher on metacritic?

Fastest selling game because Killzone and Knack failed badly and cows needed a new game to play asap which happened to be infamous.

Fastest selling game because the other games sucked is nothing to brag about

It's okay to feel sad :)

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#459 tormentos
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@kingtito said:

Sony doesn't report sold-through numbers for anything. Everything is shipped to retailers and always has been. Let's not get it twisted.

Sony has been saying since launch sold through come one stop damage controlling i already argue this here with you..hahahaha

In Fact the xbox one was the best selling console in December because retailers sold every single units available stated by sony it self..

So they shipped 4.2 million and sold 4.2 million...lol

Unlike MS who shipped 3.9 million and only 3 million were sold by December 28..lol

"PlayStation 4 remains the cumulative leader for next-gen console sales in the US since the launch on November 15," Race said. "We sold every PS4 available at retail in the US and were out of stock in December due to overwhelming consumer demand."

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/gaming/consoles/microsoft-xbox-one-was-top-selling-us-console-in-december-1216037

Tokyo, April 17, 2014 – Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCE) today announced that the PlayStation®4 (PS4™) computer entertainment system has cumulatively sold through more than 7.0 million units*1 globally as of April 6, 2014 (JST), demonstrating the rapid growth of the PS4 platform.

http://bgr.com/2014/04/17/sony-ps4-sales-7-million/

Is not the same and you know it stop grasping..lol

@kingtito said:

So let's get this straight. PS1, PS2 and PS3 sales were all shipped but all of a sudden Sony is now getting the actual data directly from the retailers? Sorry but I call BS. Sony knows the PS4 has been pretty much sold out so they're obviously going to claim sold and into consumers hands but they're not getting any other special sales data than what MS or nintendo is getting. Your post proves absolutely nothing. You'll see later on after the sales die down all of a sudden it'll be shipped.

Sony announced today that one million PlayStation 4s have already been sold to customers in North America. The news was confirmed via Twitter by Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida, who wrote “PS4 has sold through over 1 million units within 24 hours of the launch in North America!”

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/17/playstation-4-sales-pass-1-million-in-north-america

Last nail on that coffin..

Sony since launch has been about sold through not to retailers,MS started showing sold through numbers then shifted when the PS4 started to pull ahead and ahead.

"Over 3 million Xbox One consoles were sold to consumers in 13 countries before the end of 2013," said Xbox executive Yusuf Mehdi today in a statement.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-sold-3-million-units-in-2013-microsoft-says/1100-6416955/

Yeah MS talked about sold to consumers,look how they it say 3 million.

During the final quarter of 2013, 3.9 million Xbox One consoles and 3.5 million Xbox 360 consoles were sold in to retailers,

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/23/39-million-xbox-one-consoles-shipped-in-2013

They sold to retailers 3.9 million units until the end of December,but only sold 3 million to consumers by the end of December.

So yeah sold through is to consumers sold to retailers is not the same,for all we know 800k would be seating in store shelves..

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could it be time to close System Wars forum? it looks like a 1 sided beat down

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#462  Edited By blackace
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

The tears on Twitter, you guys. The tears. The lemming scum are even denying it's 7 million PS4s sold to consumers!

Where do you see 7 million SOLD TO CONSUMERS? They've only said that when they announced the 1 million units sold in 24hrs. Both Sony and Microsoft stated it was "Sold To Consumers". Everything after that have been sold to retailers.

What's really funny is people keep forgetting that XB1 is still only in 13 countries and has already hit 5 million sold to retailers. Impressive. PS4 sales are a bit more impressive, but they are in over 40 countries now and Europe is pro Sony. We'll see hot things go when XB1 launches in China in July and the other 30 countries in Sept. Should be interesting.

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damn I missed all the action I fell asleep

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@Mkavanaugh77 said:

lmao at cows getting all excited over the ps4 sales!

Xboxone is selling a little less right now just like how the ps3 was selling less than the 360 each month.

But who cares, sales are not games. Cows dont have two AAA games like Forza and titanfall. No good games like Killer Instinct and Dead Rising (Infamous sucks compared to those games) cows have no games to play so they brag about ps4 selling a little more than the xbox. Its not selling much more so calm down cows. The cows need some games to play, they spend to much time here being butthurt, its pretty sad.

lol

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@blackace said:

@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito Face it, if microsoft had sold to consumers they'd state sold-through and not shipped to retailers. Guaranteed. Sorry, kiddo.

None of the numbers are Sold To Consumers. Over 7 million sold is to retailers. Over 5 million is to retailers. That's the way it always is unless they actually say "Sold to Consumers" and they've only did that after launch day when both PS4 and XB1 sold 1 million to consumers in 24hrs. So yes, you're right. None of these numbers are sold to consumers. Who the hell is saying that?

The Xbox One didn't sell 1 million in 24 hours, only the PS4 did. Link please.

OT: Microsoft has already pulled all their major punch-cards this year. Even then they could not secure a victory. A Dramatic Price Drop is needed it seems.

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#468 misterpmedia
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@Mkavanaugh77 said:

Did you know that Titanfall got a 9/10 AAA and Infamous only got a 8/10?

and is higher on metacritic?

Fastest selling game because Killzone and Knack failed badly and cows needed a new game to play asap which happened to be infamous.

Fastest selling game because the other games sucked is nothing to brag about

still trying?

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#469  Edited By blackace
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@Indicud said:

@blackace said:

@misterpmedia said:

@kingtito Face it, if microsoft had sold to consumers they'd state sold-through and not shipped to retailers. Guaranteed. Sorry, kiddo.

None of the numbers are Sold To Consumers. Over 7 million sold is to retailers. Over 5 million is to retailers. That's the way it always is unless they actually say "Sold to Consumers" and they've only did that after launch day when both PS4 and XB1 sold 1 million to consumers in 24hrs. So yes, you're right. None of these numbers are sold to consumers. Who the hell is saying that?

The Xbox One didn't sell 1 million in 24 hours, only the PS4 did. Link please.

OT: Microsoft has already pulled all their major punch-cards this year. Even then they could not secure a victory. A Dramatic Price Drop is needed it seems.

Sure no problem. You must have been asleep or on vacation that day.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-sells-over-1-million-consoles-in-24-hours/1100-6416349/

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I really hope MS pulls a fucking zoo out of the hat this E3. SW is going to extremely boring for a while.

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#473  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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The denial and excuses are real.

It wasn't supposed to be this way. :(

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http://www.ubergizmo.com/2014/04/sonys-ps4-sales-crosses-the-7-million-mark/

is no secret that Sony’s PlayStation 4 is doing very well, but how well are we talking about? Well according to Sony who have recently announced their latest figures, it seems that they have managed to sell over 7 million consoles to date.

It appears that things have been progressing pretty well for Sony. Back in November 2013, Sony announced that they managed to sell 1 million units in 24 hours. It was also later announced in February that Sony had sold 5.3 million units, and here we are a couple of months later where Sony announces that they have passed the 7 million units sold mark.

Now we know that there is a difference between units sold to consumers and units sold to retailers,so it should be noted that Sony mentions that the 7 million mark is sold to consumers, as opposed to retailers whose numbers are probably a little higher than that. So how does Sony fare against the competition from Microsoft’s Xbox One

so it should be noted that Sony mentions that the 7 million mark is sold to consumers,

so it should be noted that Sony mentions that the 7 million mark is sold to consumers,

so it should be noted that Sony mentions that the 7 million mark is sold to consumers,

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#476 Nike_Air
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@Desmonic said:

A curious (yet interesting post) I saw at Gaf:

Credits - 1.21Gigawatts

I think Microsoft is in trouble now.

Sony has MLB14 coming up for the Ps4.

They have exclusive marketing for Watchdogs.

They have The Last Of Us Remastered coming up.

They have DriveClub coming up.

They have exclusive marketing for Destiny.

They have The Order 1886 coming up.

They have Planetside2 coming up.

Microsoft has basically nothing until SunsetOverdrive, Halo2 Anniversary or Forza Horizon2 hit.

Microsofts really needs to knock it out of the park at E3.

By that I mean not only games wise. They need to show something amazing like Illumiroom or a VR/AR solution.

They need to drop the price below Ps4.

And they need to show a of amazing exclusives.

When you think about this makes a lot of sense...MS could potentially have some rough times until the Fall...

There's Kinect Sports Rivals (and a massive ad campaign for it) , continued TitanFall advertising , and possibly Project Spark !

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@Desmonic said:

A curious (yet interesting post) I saw at Gaf:

Credits - 1.21Gigawatts

I think Microsoft is in trouble now.

Sony has MLB14 coming up for the Ps4.

They have exclusive marketing for Watchdogs.

They have The Last Of Us Remastered coming up.

They have DriveClub coming up.

They have exclusive marketing for Destiny.

They have The Order 1886 coming up.

They have Planetside2 coming up.

Microsoft has basically nothing until SunsetOverdrive, Halo2 Anniversary or Forza Horizon2 hit.

Microsofts really needs to knock it out of the park at E3.

By that I mean not only games wise. They need to show something amazing like Illumiroom or a VR/AR solution.

They need to drop the price below Ps4.

And they need to show a of amazing exclusives.

When you think about this makes a lot of sense...MS could potentially have some rough times until the Fall...

Cows should definitely stick to the sales war here and not get into the games.

Drive Club (No release date)

The Order (No release date)

Destiny (you are really counting exclusive content after last gen saying that is foolish)

LOU (Remastered Milkage)

Yeah definitely stick with sales.

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@Desmonic said:

A curious (yet interesting post) I saw at Gaf:

Credits - 1.21Gigawatts

I think Microsoft is in trouble now.

Sony has MLB14 coming up for the Ps4.

They have exclusive marketing for Watchdogs.

They have The Last Of Us Remastered coming up.

They have DriveClub coming up.

They have exclusive marketing for Destiny.

They have The Order 1886 coming up.

They have Planetside2 coming up.

Microsoft has basically nothing until SunsetOverdrive, Halo2 Anniversary or Forza Horizon2 hit.

Microsofts really needs to knock it out of the park at E3.

By that I mean not only games wise. They need to show something amazing like Illumiroom or a VR/AR solution.

They need to drop the price below Ps4.

And they need to show a of amazing exclusives.

When you think about this makes a lot of sense...MS could potentially have some rough times until the Fall...

MS played their hand, and it wasn't enough.

MLB game is going to be interesting. It's the first next gen mlb game, and its also the only one around.

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@Mkavanaugh77 said:

Very amusing to see the cows being so jelly over the xboxone lmao

getting worse, you seem exhausted lol.

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AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

lems are on suicide watch

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#481 Indicud
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@blackace: Thank You.

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@Desmonic said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

damn I missed all the action I fell asleep

Haha, you though you were gonna eat crow :P Now you got eat crow for thinking you were gonna eat crow but not actually eating crow. Capiche? lol

My head hurts lol

Honestly fanboy stuff aside I think m$ in huge trouble, they had a huge marketing campagin thos month plus offered discounts on bundles and still only sold arnd 300k. Price drop incoming

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#484 Indicud
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@kuu2 said:

@Desmonic said:

A curious (yet interesting post) I saw at Gaf:

Credits - 1.21Gigawatts

I think Microsoft is in trouble now.

Sony has MLB14 coming up for the Ps4.

They have exclusive marketing for Watchdogs.

They have The Last Of Us Remastered coming up.

They have DriveClub coming up.

They have exclusive marketing for Destiny.

They have The Order 1886 coming up.

They have Planetside2 coming up.

Microsoft has basically nothing until SunsetOverdrive, Halo2 Anniversary or Forza Horizon2 hit.

Microsofts really needs to knock it out of the park at E3.

By that I mean not only games wise. They need to show something amazing like Illumiroom or a VR/AR solution.

They need to drop the price below Ps4.

And they need to show a of amazing exclusives.

When you think about this makes a lot of sense...MS could potentially have some rough times until the Fall...

Cows should definitely stick to the sales war here and not get into the games.

Drive Club (No release date)

The Order (No release date)

Destiny (you are really counting exclusive content after last gen saying that is foolish)

LOU (Remastered Milkage)

Yeah definitely stick with sales.

Wow, even without playing their hand yet Sony crushes Microsoft. Speaks volumes.

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#485 kuu2
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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@Desmonic said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

damn I missed all the action I fell asleep

Haha, you though you were gonna eat crow :P Now you got eat crow for thinking you were gonna eat crow but not actually eating crow. Capiche? lol

My head hurts lol

Honestly fanboy stuff aside I think m$ in huge trouble, they had a huge marketing campagin thos month plus offered discounts on bundles and still only sold arnd 300k. Price drop incoming

While they are not the leader this month they are doing much better than the 36o and the PS3 at the start of that generation. The PS4 is just going bananas at the moment. The gen is far from over however.

e3 is right around the corner and we will see who does well during the holidays this year.

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Only 2 more pages in an hour?

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#487  Edited By tormentos
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@TigerSuperman said:

So you're saying that Xbox One sold 0 units in January and February?

The xbox one sold 200k in January world wide..hahahahaaaaaa

In Februay like 400k do the math,still 300k unsold and this pass month in US they did 311k..lol

So basically add 130k in EU with luck and you have...

1.041,000 more give or take 100K more,so yeah probably at 4.2 million..lol

@lglz1337 said:

link

get over it

Microsoft's number of 5 million Xbox Ones shipped to retailers puts it significantly behind PlayStation 4's 7+ million sold to consumers, which Sony announced yesterday.

Check mate..

Brilliant Performance lets see if he has the gust to admit it now or banish without a trace...lol

@MonsieurX said:

It's been in stock pretty much everywhere for the past weeks.

http://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/consoles/ps4/

Yes new stock comes and goes in fact Blackace posted that same link 3 days ago and gamestop and 3 more had no units only 1 was selling the PS4 for $399 and the rest over $500..

Few days ago in walmart..lol

Stocks come and go all the time,it is more easy to find now but is not completely over.

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#488 blackace
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@Indicud said:

@blackace: Thank You.

You're welcome. Why is everyone so angry? This is good news all around. The PS4 and XB1 are completely DESTROYING SALES OF THE PS3 & XBOX 360 from LAST GEN. Is that really a BAD THING?!?!? The XB1 hasn't even launched in ALL countries yet and it's already way ahead of XBox 360 and PS3 sales from last gen. I don't see the problem.

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@blackace said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

The tears on Twitter, you guys. The tears. The lemming scum are even denying it's 7 million PS4s sold to consumers!

Where do you see 7 million SOLD TO CONSUMERS? They've only said that when they announced the 1 million units sold in 24hrs. Both Sony and Microsoft stated it was "Sold To Consumers". Everything after that have been sold to retailers.

What's really funny is people keep forgetting that XB1 is still only in 13 countries and has already hit 5 million sold to retailers. Impressive. PS4 sales are a bit more impressive, but they are in over 40 countries now and Europe is pro Sony. We'll see hot things go when XB1 launches in China in July and the other 30 countries in Sept. Should be interesting.

Sold through means sold to consumers you almighty berk.

They'll sell 100,000 max in China, it's PC and mobile land there. Tier 2 like Peru and Turkey won't save the Xbone.

Keep acting that there's a glimmer of hope where there isn't though, it'll make your future meltdowns even more glorious.

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#490  Edited By Nike_Air
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Some polygon fan fiction on neogaf -

The day is April 18 2014 and a somber tension hangs in the air within the Polygon offices. The offices that just one year before were bustling with activity and laughter. But now the laughter has faded. The desks are lined with workers, with catatonic stares as the employees come to contemplate the news. The horrifying truth. There is no banter in the office, all that can be heard is a small echoing sobbing from the bathrooms and the furious mashing of a keyboard from Ben Kuchera's desk. Arthur Gies kicks over a small bin and whispers "Titanfall... Titanfall was going to change everything". But in his heart he comes to realise the dream is over.

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#491 Sweenix
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LMAO PS4 outsells xbone on titanfall month

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#493 misterpmedia
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Some polygon fan fiction on neogaf -

The day is April 18 2014 and a somber tension hangs in the air within the Polygon offices. The offices that just one year before were bustling with activity and laughter. But now the laughter has faded. The desks are lined with workers, with catatonic stares as the employees come to contemplate the news. The horrifying truth. There is no banter in the office, all that can be heard is a small echoing sobbing from the bathrooms and the furious mashing of a keyboard from Ben Kuchera's desk. Arthur Gies kicks over a small bin and whispers "Titanfall... Titanfall was going to change everything". But in his heart he comes to realise the dream is over.

hahaha

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#494 blackace
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@misterpmedia said:

@Nike_Air said:

Some polygon fan fiction on neogaf -

The day is April 18 2014 and a somber tension hangs in the air within the Polygon offices. The offices that just one year before were bustling with activity and laughter. But now the laughter has faded. The desks are lined with workers, with catatonic stares as the employees come to contemplate the news. The horrifying truth. There is no banter in the office, all that can be heard is a small echoing sobbing from the bathrooms and the furious mashing of a keyboard from Ben Kuchera's desk. Arthur Gies kicks over a small bin and whispers "Titanfall... Titanfall was going to change everything". But in his heart he comes to realise the dream is over.

hahaha

Funny Fiction.

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lol the lemming damage control is delicious.

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#496  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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blackace is fuming.

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#497  Edited By tormentos
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@blackace said:

None of the numbers are Sold To Consumers. Over 7 million sold is to retailers. Over 5 million is to retailers. That's the way it always is unless they actually say "Sold to Consumers" and they've only did that after launch day when both PS4 and XB1 sold 1 million to consumers in 24hrs. So yes, you're right. None of these numbers are sold to consumers. Who the hell is saying that?

Today, Sony announced that its PlayStation 4 console has passed 7 million units sold worldwide as of April 6, 2014. This number represents sold to consumers, and not just units sold to retailers (which makes sense, as consoles continue to be scarce).

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/16/playstation-4-sells-over-7-million-units

Sony announced today that one million PlayStation 4s have already been sold to customers in North America. The news was confirmed via Twitter by Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida, who wrote “PS4 has sold through over 1 million units within 24 hours of the launch in North America!”

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/17/playstation-4-sales-pass-1-million-in-north-america

"Over 3 million Xbox One consoles were sold to consumers in 13 countries before the end of 2013," said Xbox executive Yusuf Mehdi today in a statement.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-sold-3-million-units-in-2013-microsoft-says/1100-6416955/

During the final quarter of 2013, 3.9 million Xbox One consoles and 3.5 million Xbox 360 consoles were sold in to retailers,

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/23/39-million-xbox-one-consoles-shipped-in-2013

Cry more.......hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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#498 blackace
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Isn't Jack Tretton not working at Sony anymore? lol!! I think Kaz will be next to go.

June, July & Sept should be interesting months.

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#499  Edited By misterpmedia
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lol polygon people are also in a tizzy

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lol polygon people are also in a tizzy

What the..... that's sad. He would've looked a lot better if he simply ignored the noise. Can't believe an adult behaving that way over video game systems.