OFFICIAL Killzone: SF GS: 7.0 Unsticky'd but not Forgotten.

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Reviews and scores will be posted here as they come.

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Here's the 1st review from Game Reactor UK
Polygon: 5/10

PS Nation : /
8.8 from Gametrailers
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Killzone: Shadowfall was first announced at Sony's Playstation Conference on the 20th of February, this year.

You'member? Huh? Huh?

Here is a Q&A with the Game Directer, Steven 'ter Heide:

Rurico Martinez asks: What is the biggest change in this Killzone game that it makes it feel different from the other ones?

“Obviously, we are keeping what is great about Killzone - we have a unique universe, iconic enemies and some great features like the hit-responses, first person cover and the melee system. But we’re also building on that, expanding and polishing those systems with things like drop-down melees and combo melee attacks. More importantly though, we’re adding many more player abilities and providing larger, more open arenas for you to play in and find your own unique solutions to problems.

The OWL attack drone is a prime example of this: its combat abilities allow you to fight on your terms and decide how the battle plays out. We want to encourage that kind of thoughtful and dynamic play-style, to create moments you will want to share. It is not just about outgunning your enemy – it’s about outmaneuvering and outsmarting them as well. Killzone Shadow Fall is a shooter that requires both skills and brains.”

Dominik Asch asks: How much do we learn of Helghast society?

“For this game we’ve created a highly detailed world that is both futuristic and believable. The new, more thoughtful gameplay style will afford you more opportunities to take in the rich history and backstory of its people.

The game starts out on the now divided world of Vekta, with only a wall separating the Helghast and the Vektans. The deep-rooted hate and distrust between the two factions has built up and the world is on the brink of war. Your missions will take you across the wall, where you will get a first-hand look at how Helghast society lives and works. Again, we’ve put a lot of effort into creating this world – we’ve looked at the people, the infrastructure, the brands, the culture and news reporting that form part of a living and breathing futuristic world.”

@PsVitaLifeStyle asks: Will the guns and characters have the same weight and feel like Killzone 3?

“The feel of the weapons is hugely important to us. We have always gone for a way to connect the player to the game-world. This should never feel cumbersome or frustrating, but be responsive and allow for fluid gameplay that has a believable weight to it. This weight is created through realistic animations and should not be a result of input lag, which is something which gets often confused.”

@StevenNoble asks: Can you customize control layout? I struggled when moving between Killzone, Battlefield and Call of Duty.

“We are ensuring that the default setting feels intuitive and covers the important gameplay mechanics that we have in Killzone Shadow Fall. It always takes experimentation and lots of testing to get this right, and we realize that even then it’s probably not the best layout for everyone. So we will provide options to change the layout. The new controller feels different in a couple of important areas, and we are taking advantage of the new features and feel. But if, for example, you don’t like to fire using the new outward curved triggers, you can change that.”

@BossDooley asks: You always pushed the PlayStation 3 with AI and Graphics, how has the PlayStation 4 opened up building on these mechanics?

“As a developer it is great to get new tools to play with, because overall it allows us to create richer experiences. Obviously there are always choices to make on issues like design and production values, but the boundaries of what we're able to do have been extended. The PlayStation 4 allows us to add more things and take them a step further. We can, for example, invest in more realistic animations, larger scale, better visual FX and more characters, and reach a higher quality on all of them.

At the same time, we’re pleased that the PlayStation 4 isn’t just about more power

– it’s also about new control methods and features and services that encourage a different kind of interaction with the game and the people around you. In that regard we’re also very excited about Killzone Shadow Fall’s multiplayer mode, but more on that later...”

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It was all this chick's fault!...I think...
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On a scale of M. Knight Shabalaba to Zack Snyder, how awesome is the story line??

Don't ask Jimmy Fallon : /

The piece of live gameplay we presented at the PlayStation Meeting 2013 shows you a new world, a new situation and a new hero.

The game is set in a near future, thirty years after the events of Killzone 3. The world is a very different place; two rival factions known as the Helghast and the Vektans live side by side in a futuristic city, divided by a vast wall.

So, Tommy, Peter, and I were like totally hanging out and then...

Tensions are high, and the cold war they are embroiled in is about to go hot. In the midst of this all stands a Shadow Marshal, you. The most special of the special forces, tasked with maintaining the delicate balance. From responding to bold attacks, to quiet

Doesn't she look like Alyx from Half Life 2...Or is it just me??

infiltrations or all out combat, you will be required to adapt and think on your feet as you have to face a variety of escalating events that could destroy your home world.

Here's more details from IGN:

What the heck happened thirty years ago?

Killzone: Shadow Fall acts as a reboot for Guerrilla Games’ Helghast slaughtering series. However, rather than throw away the plot of previous entries, the Dutch developer has opted to look to the future instead. As a result, the impending exclusive is set thirty years after the events of Killzone 3. This is referenced in the latest trailer when a female voice mentions that three decades ago “it was Vektan aggression that led to the slaughter of a billion Helghast lives”. But what exactly caused that?

Fans of the series may recall the ISA (the Interplanetary Strategic Alliance) invading the orange-eyed antagonist’s planet at the start of Killzone 2. This action prompted a cruel war, which continued into the title’s sequel. In an effort to improve its position against the invading forces, military tycoon Jorhan Stahl began to manufacture a new weapon using irradiated Petrusite, which he intended to use to wipe out both factions’ former home, Earth.

However, series protagonists Tomas ‘Sev’ Sevchenko and Rico Velasquez managed to thwart the plans by hijacking two fighter jets and dropping a nuclear bomb on Stahl’s intergalactic cruiser. The impact of this explosion – just over the planet Helghan – was devastating, with the irradiated Petrusite all but wiping out the planet, and forcing any remaining Helghast to shack up with their sworn enemies on Vekta. This leads us to the events of next month’s PS4 exclusive...

There's not much known about the story yet, but it seems rather dramatic in my opinion. I'm hoping for something as involving and live and Uncharted 2, but also as deep and connected as Metal Gear Solid 4.

This chick, that dude, this dude, that guy, her, him, her, oh...and him!

This is from the PS4 Killzone Live Action trailer...Purdy cool, right?

So, we're seeing some new faces so far in Killzone: ShadowFall. We haven't seen our main bro_dudes yet, but we know they're there. Let's have a look at some of the Chracters we know of so far.

How did the design of these characters evolve?

“In order to get stronger performances from our lead characters on KZSF we looked to improve how we integrate the casting of our lead actors into the design process. Before we’d write, design and cast a character but due to the complexities of game development this wasn’t always done in an optimal order.

On KZSF we made sure we always started with a clear idea of who a character was and how we wanted them to be portrayed, then cast someone was perfect for the role. That actor is used as the likeness, the vocal performer and for full performance capture. In the likeness we subtly emphasize those traits of the actor that made us want to cast them in that role, in a design process we call characterization. We don’t want to spend time on lengthy exposition, so we wanted to make sure that when you first see a character you understand exactly who they are, their relation to you, their personality and history and so on.

This was pretty tricky – even subtle tweaks to someone’s face can make them look like unrecognizable or even inhuman (or inhelghast). We change as little as necessary – for instance we needed Sinclair to be a little older, partly to shorthand his role as mentor, and partly to show how the stresses of his very difficult job have taken their toll on him. Sinclair might have more worry lines than David, but he is still very much David. For Echo, we needed to make her Helghan heritage obvious without making her look sickly and unthreatening, or losing Jamie’s likeness - and we also added a few subtle design features to hint at her difficult background as a Helghast agent and before.

First of all...You don't play as Sev...Wait...WTF???

Cool gaiter, Duud.

Sergeant Tomas "Sev" Sevchenko is second in command of Alpha Squad by rank. He is the primary protagonist in Killzone 2 andKillzone 3. Younger and less experienced than the veterans Rico andNatko, he makes up for this by being a superb technical soldier, having distinguished himself in service as courageous, intelligent and highly resourceful. This caught the eye of Colonel Templar, who saw something of himself in Sev and followed his rise through the ranks, until a fatality in Alpha opened up the position of second-in-command to Rico.

Rico is gone too! : /

I can't be the only one who wished this asshole would die in Killzone 3.

Here's your suddenly strange Protagonist:

Lucas Kellen:

So, can you do any tricks?

You’ll step into the armoured outfit of Lucas Kellen, a Shadow Marshal similar to Luger from the original PlayStation 2 game and PlayStation Portable spin-off Killzone: Liberation. Much like Lady Visari, there’s not an enormous amount of information on the character, but we do know that he’s able to freely travel between the wall that divides the Vektans and Helghans on Vekta.

How do you guys feel about this? I'd rather have Sev. I hate change.


Sinclair is the head of the Vektan Security Agency – his job is to make sure the balance of power favors Vekta without escalating the cold war into open conflict. Part spymaster - part diplomat, and with a shrewd strategic mind, he is Lucas’ direct CO and mentor.

I believe this dude is the badass equivalent to Idris Elba.


Great, this chick again.

Echo is an elite operative tasked to cross the wall, and her mission puts them on a collision course. She is extremely dangerous; an equal but opposite reflection of the player character.” Rumor has it we may get to play part of the campaign as her : /

Lady Visari

Lady Visari, the daughter of the aforementioned head of the Helghan hierarchy, has taken charge of the faction.

We don’t actually know a whole lot about the feisty female – aside from the fact that she holds the chancellor position in the new Helghast government – but it appears from the trailer that she’s not afraid to fight for the same values as her father. In the video, operative Echo is overheard saying that “if you attack, she will not back down – she’ll be defending what she has”. With just a wall dividing the Vektans and Helghast, there’s mounting tension on the planet.


Interestingly, this isn’t the first time that we’ve actually seen Lady Visari. The character previously appeared in the intro for Killzone 3, where Scolar Visari is shown recording a rousing speech surrounded by his closest circle. Some have speculated that a scene at the end of the game, in conjunction with a quote from Admiral Orlock during the opening sequence – “Sir, you have to move, the ISA are here” – may mean that the leader is still alive and in hiding. We’ll probably find out for sure over the coming weeks.


We don't know anything about this character yet, but he's on the Killzone:SF official page under the name of Father.

Ehh....This is awkward...We don't have your name on our list of invitations...are you sure you're in the right game?


Aunt Betty??? Is that you???

Also no idea who she is, but she's listed as Massar. Must be some sorta' government secret lab, crazy conspiracy, 'she's the mother of the daughter and the fiance but the father doesn't know that the uncle is werewolf' sorta' crazy plot twist.


Eye Doctor appointment says what??

Seriously, no idea who this guy is either. Supposedly named Saric. He looks dangerous...Like Riddick gone wrong. Vin Diesel, buy a toupee!

No Wait: Apparently, Saric is the head of the Helghan Security Forces. A firsthand witness to the Helghan Terracide as a child, Saric's contempt and disgust for Vekta is matched by few. Part enforcer, part inquisitor, Saric sadistically relishes the opportunities for violence his position provides.


Another stranger...Seriously, who invited all these people??

Yes! I'm not on night duty!

From a technical standpoint, how have the characters evolved from past Killzone titles?

“They’ve improved in every way possible. From a straightforward modeling and rendering POV we’re now able to make them more real, and shave off all those rough edges - like missing detail – that would otherwise distract you. We’ve been able to nail the original vision for these characters withcomplete attention to detail without the technology getting in the way. We’ve been able to capture many things that were impossible before – from small things like iris refraction to broader things like metallic reflection. All things which combine to sell the illusion that the character you see on screen is a living, thinking being.

She's hot.

Besides more detail, more advanced lighting and more accurate material expression, we’ve also improved our animation systems including full soft and rigid body simulations. This obviously gives fully dynamic cloth, which works brilliantly for simulating things like the cape on the Helghan Sniper, but on our lead characters we also use it for more subtle things.Sinclair’s collar will now bend and fold as his head pushes it away for instance – a small detail, but what would have been an distracting intersection is now seamless. This technology opened up new possibilities in terms of design – suddenly multiple layers of loose clothing are no longer impossible for example – and so whilst we avoided adding these things just to show off, we no longer have to dismiss them at the drawing board.

Wonder who this guy is.

In addition to improving our engine technology, we’ve also make technological strides in our capturing and authoring. Our ability to capture the likeness of an actor has improved, utilizing state of the art photometric 3d scanning. We now do full performance capture, recording the voice, body and face of the actor at the same time – ensuring the final game has the same consistent, authentic performances our actors delivered in the studio.”

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With the new changes of plotlines and characters, most of Killzone's previous models and characters have been changed and updated. We're seeing classes we've never seen before and also characters we've never seen before. There's a lot to cover in this section so I'm going to split it into two. Hang on for the ride. Anything not covered here about classes and character models will be in the multiplayer section.

"Who is responsible for this?? I want names, now!" I blame Rico.
Would you like some flesh with that armor?

What kind of role does the Helghast Infantry have in Killzone Shadow Fall?

Dan Calvert: “We added a lot of new ideas to Killzone Shadow Fall, but we also wanted to show the familiar Helghast regular forces and how they’ve evolved since Killzone 3.

Assault Troopers form the backbone of the Helghan Army. Better trained and better equipped than his historical counterpart, the ‘average’ Trooper is now smarter and deadlier than ever.

In many ways they havechanged, but in some respects they’re the same – their gear and tactics have evolved, but they’re all still zealous and brutal Helghast troopers on the inside.”

Roy Postma: “They’re still the mainstay of the Helghast military, of course, but the role of the military itself has shifted since the war has gone cold.

Assault Troopers Engineers: Helghast Engineers provide battlefield support, either in an offensive capacity (by constructing sentry turrets) or in a defensive capacity (by providing dynamic cover with strategically placed Nano Shields).

After incurring devastating losses during the destruction of Helghan, the Helghast military was forced to rethink its attrition-based approach to warfare.

While rebuilding and restructuring itself in the ensuing arms race with the VSA, its focus shifted to obtaining an edge over the status quo by any means except open warfare.

Assault Troopers Commando: The most aggressive and physically powerful Troopers are selected to become Commandos. They specialize in brute force and overwhelming firepower, equipped with shotguns in close quarters combat, or with miniguns and emplaced Nano Shields for battlefield support.

With limited numbers of able-bodied Helghast available, the infantry required a new breed of soldiers – more durable, more versatile, smarter – and most importantly, able to perform in different and more specialized roles than before.

Here's a Security Trooper

These soldiers are now used to police their own population, guard the endless borders against ISA incursions, and tip the balance in their favor wherever, however and whenever they can.”

Dan Calvert: “Still, while their ability to field masses of troopers isn’t an option anymore, the Helghast doctrine of overwhelming force hasn’t changed all that much.

Riot Troopers: Helghast Riot Troopers use a defensive shield to converge on threats, and use heavy shotguns to put down threats at close range. Their shields are resistant (but not impervious) to small arms fire, but tactically-aware players will distract and flank them where they're vulnerable.

They’ve just improved the force capability of individual troopers, and augmented them with an enormous army of combat drones. If and when war comes,

these guys will march over the walls and take Vekta through raw power.”

How did you approach updating the iconic Helghast Troopers for the new setting?

RP: “The Helghast troopers form the foundation of all the Helghast soldiers we design. They are the first and the last characters we design, and they’re continuously evolving throughout the process.

The HGH Buddy Drone: Ought to ruin a poor ISA trooper's day, doesn't it?

We tweak their looks, details and materials to perfection to make sure they embody all that makes Helghast… well, Helghast.

For the new setting we had to make sure they conformed to a much more specialized and high-tech soldier look, while still maintaining that classic appearance.

High Support 02 from the High Support Class

The most notable part of the Helghast Troopers that we upgraded was their armor. In doing so we increased their survivability and allowed for maximum customization, depending on their roles.

All of their soft armor got replaced with a modular, sturdier version made from ballistic-proof composites with a soft low-reflection outer material,

Scout Class Sniper: For those of you douchebags who love to camp and scope...Here's your sign.

in which various high tech communication and respiration systems were embedded. We created the armor from a wide range of separate components, which were layered on top of each other to obtain a realistic and highly detailed look, but without affecting mobility.

Here's a Class 3 Commando

On top of this, we added a light additional layer of soft gear which, combined with the regular base clothing underneath the armor, stayed true to the classic Helghast Trooper look and feel. It had the additional benefit of maintaining high

differentiation between the material types, and increasing the readability of the details.

Here's a Class 3 Scout Sniper!

Style-wise, we maintained the hard, angular edges, realistic construction, and red glowing eyes of the Helghast. We also worked hard and long on updating their masks,

to make them even more fearsome.”

DC: “Regarding the masks, it’s difficult to update something iconic like the Assault Trooper mask without either losing its fundamental appeal or just making a predictable remix.

Here's another Engineer of Class 3

The glowing red eyes are the most obvious Helghan motif, obviously, but sticking red eyes on something alone won’t make it look Helghast automatically – and of course you can make something look Helghast without red eyes.

Assault Class 2 Silver Armor.

What is fundamental is that their gear de-humanizes them, makes them look monstrous and unfamiliar, so the updated masks distort and conceal facial features as before – we’re just using shapes and components that suggest something more technologically advanced.

Concept Art

We looked to the Capture Trooper from Killzone 3, and to a lesser degree the Sniper, who at that point in the fiction had gear that was at the peak of Helghast technological ability. We then asked ourselves what the regular Helghast Infantry would look like if that level of technology was now commonplace and mass produced.”

If you ever need an excuse to piss your pants :)

How did you balance the differentiation between the classes whilst keeping them feeling cohesive?

RP: “After we established the base design for the Helghast Infantry Trooper, we took the otherclasses as far apart from them as possible, based on their roles and functions in the world. The Commando, for example, is a much heavier and brute-power version of the Infantry.

Assault Trooper Close up. Your face...I like that shit!

Trooper. We bulked them up by adding lots of armor and replaced their helmets with full ballistic face plates, making them more fearsome up close and giving their bodies an even bulkier look in proportion. Since all classes have their own basis, bringing them together was not that hard. Our new main infantry design was strong and versatile enough that we could swap and share many components back and forth between the characters.”

Talk about Creature in its habitat

DC: “In cases where characters had equivalents in previous Killzone games, we tried to keep their larger forms intact so they’d be instantly recognizable to fans, even if the details had evolved. For example, the Engineer is completely overhauled in terms of the forms and shapes used in his helmet and armor, but his basic proportions and design motifs, i.e. the Hazmat suit layered under his armor, are intact.

Dan Calvert is one of the devs and he's the one answering all these questions.

For the new enemies, we’ve not only tried to make their appearance diverse enough to be recognized at range – which is very important in a game like Shadow Fall, where you have a greater variety of tactical tools available – but we’ve also ensured that the role of new characters can beinferred from their design relationships with other, more familiar characters. This can give players just enough information to begin formulating a strategy for how to deal with an unfamiliar class of foe.”

The Black Hand

Why do the Black Hand look so different from any of the foes seen before in the Killzone universe?

Dan Calvert: “We’re dealing with the universe-changing consequences of the demise of planet Helghan, plus the jump in time between Killzone 3 and Killzone Shadow Fall. We’d already started to see the Helghast fragment in Killzone 3 after Scolar Visari’s death, and the loss of their home and a vast part of their population only furthered this. The Helghast maintain their identity and their ideals, but their goals are now splintered. The Black Hand are the most divergent Helghast subfaction we see in Shadow Fall; they’re not a regular army, and they don’t use conventional warfare tactics. They’re infiltrators, not invaders.”

Are you sure you're wearing enough clothes??

Roy Postma: “From a design standpoint, increasing the diversity between the characters was a clear choice we made from the start. Instead of constraining ourselves to the Helghast military, we expanded the range of enemies to different groups, from security to the military to special ops and the Black Hand. This allowed us to create a unique and distinct basis for each group, which we finished off with the typical Helghast details to ensure no-one would mistake them for friendly forces.”

How are you differentiating the Black Hand from regular Helghast troops, design-wise?

Assassin's Creed: Black Hand says what?

RP: “The Black Hand are a good example of the setting of our new world, where Vektans and Helghast live next to each other with only a wall dividing them. Their costumes are a crossover of design elements from both main factions, combined into a whole new look. Like Dan said, the Black Hand are not an official army – they’re not equipped like regular soldiers. They hide and live among civilians until they’re activated, so the basis for their costumes is Vektan civilian street wear.

And you're sure you're no a size 60?

When Black Hand operatives get called into action they will pull up their hoods with the red combat goggles to hide their identity, and gear up with surplus Helghast military gear smuggled over the wall. The most noticeable elements in their equipment are the straps they wrap around themselves. On these straps they’ve fastened cloaking projectors, similar to the ones used by Helghast snipers. The Black Hand use older models, which means they need a lot of projectors strapped around their bodies, but this renders their combat gear practically invisible to the naked eye. It lets them to blend in and get close to their targets before they spring into action.”

Sir? Sir? Hey! You can't park there!

DC: “There’s an interesting design tension between the conflicting Helghan and Vektan elements of the Black Hand costumes, and it allowed us to do world-building for both cultures. We wanted to make sure that the characters were recognizably Helghan, but as with the rest of Shadow Fall we also wanted to open up the Killzone universe and show you more of what’s out there.

This guy is ready for action

At its core, the identity of the Black Hand is defined though chaos. Their goals are to unsettle the Vektan populace with random attacks. Chaos is their manifesto, so it’s something we express through their character design – the mismatched clothing, the haphazard gear and bags, the loosely attached projector straps that flail around as they move – none of this is detail for its own sake, it’s there to show exactly how these guys are different in character from your typical Helghan infantryman.”

How has developing for a next-generation platform enhanced the character design & authoring process?

DC: “There were a couple of important things that we wouldn’t have been able to achieve on older consoles, and if we’d lost these they would have really compromised our vision for the Black Hand. Having all those loose-fitting elements move naturally, respond to the motion of the character, and collide with one another would have been impossible without the advances in our simulation and character rigging.

Hey, aren't you that asshole from the announcement trailer?

In addition, we’ve become a lot better at cloth and civilian-style clothing – instead of sculpting the character’s clothes out of digital clay, we now cut and sew digital clothing patterns and then precompute how they would hang on the character to get the most natural folds and seams possible. We’ve also improved our ability to render cloth-like materials and simulate in-game cloth behavior.”

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We don't know much about the ISA's side of the equation, except that they're now called VSA. All of the classes and soldier models I put in the Helghan Section are the same as the VSA. So, order to save time and space I'm not going to post too much for this section. If you need to see those soldiers and classes for the ISA side either close your eyes and pretend they're blue or go to the Killzone SF Official Page. :)

Get a good look at the OWL attack drone in this exclusive in-game screenshot from Killzone Shadow Fall! Lead Designer Eric Boltjes graciously volunteered to answer our questions about the OWL, its abilities and its design:

What exactly is an OWL?

“The OWL is an advanced hovering attack drone used exclusively by the Shadow Marshals to give them all kinds of tactical abilities in the field. It attaches itself onto the Shadow Marshal’s suit until he gives it an order. When damaged, the OWL automatically returns and regenerates health until it receives an order again.”

What can the OWL do?

“The OWL has several modes you can access via the new PS4 Controller Touch Pad: Attack Mode, Zipline Mode, Stun Mode and Shield Mode.

Attack Mode orders the OWL to move to an area and attack anyone within range; alternatively, you can tell it to attack a single enemy directly.

Here's a VSA Support Trooper

Zipline Mode gets the OWL to fire a zipline, allowing the Shadow Marshal to traverse incredibly quickly from point A to B.

Stun Mode is similar to Attack Mode, but lets the OWL use up its energy to create an area-of-effect shock blast that turns off all nearby electronics and stuns humanoid enemies within range.

Lastly, Shield Mode creates an energy shield right in front of the Shadow Marshal, allowing bullets/projectiles to pass through from his POV but stopping bullets coming in from the other side.”

VSA Support Class Sniper.

Where did the idea for the OWL come from?

“We wanted to give the player more control over buddies in our game, and we quickly gravitated towards utilizing our futuristic theme to create something very technologically advanced and also extremely useful in the field. It was important that it was easy to use in the fray of battle and have suitable abilities for every type of situation the game throws at you, on top of all the other abilities/weapons the Shadow Marshal has at his disposal.”

Sinclair is in command of VSA, it appears.

Le'ts get to my favorite part of this thread. Zeh Weppins!!!!

Will rocket launchers be secondary weapons, like in Killzone 3?

Rocket launchers aren’t secondary weapons like they were for certain classes in Killzone 3. Instead, grenade launchers and rocket launchers will be available as attachments for the heavier primary weapons. This means less weapon switching in the heat of battle.

I prefer hip-firing rather than aiming down sights – can I still do that?

If you’re one of those players endowed with dead aim, you’ll be happy to know that ‘hip-firing’ (firing a weapon without using the sights) is still an option in Killzone Shadow Fall multiplayer. Some weapons can only be fired by aiming down the sights, however – particularly the heavier/more dangerous ones.

How did the PNV-06 come into existence?

“We really wanted to bring a Petrusite weapon back to the game, because we loved the special effects for the Arc Cannons in previous Killzone titles, and their presence clearly illustrated the potential of Petrusite as a power source. Of course, those Arc Cannons were just early prototypes, and 30 years have passed since. It’s safe to assume that the Helghast have perfected the technology by now.

While the old Arc Cannons were deliberately designed to feel incomplete or slapped together from custom parts, we went in the opposite direction for the PNV-06 and tried to show what weaponized Petrusite could bring to the Helghast arsenal. To achieve this we started out with a nice, sleek body that could properly house all the components and look like a real production weapon – one that didn’t look as though it might kill the operator as well as the target.

The initial design was based on the idea that the PNV-06 would fire heavy Petrusite projectiles in single charged shots, but in practice, that made it function too much like a sniper rifle-like weapon. We had to find a way to increase the fire rate, but we couldn’t just make it fire faster – this is still a Petrusite weapon after all, and each shot requires a charge-up period.

In the end we decided to triple the size of the weapon, creating a brand new body that could house three firing mechanisms and thee barrels. The resulting beast was so big it had to be fired from the shoulder, but our work paid off – the PNV-06 now fires high-power destructive Petrusite shells in fast, three-shot bursts, showing off its true damage potential and value as a suppressive fire weapon.”

Without real-life counterparts to use as reference, how did you ensure the PNV-06 appears functional and realistic?

“A weapon like this is supposed to look special and distinguished from regular firearms, so the trick is actually to not look at real-life weapons. The previous Arc Cannons were constructed out of parts we took from scrapyards, electric engines, car seat frames and so on.

For the PNV-06, I shifted my focus to modern sports car aluminum frames and motor blocks and such, to ensure that it would feel modern and clean, and would also stand out from the more traditional weapons. We retained the logic behind its firing mechanism from previous prototypes, and finished it off with more traditional gun parts such as rails, a standardized magazine and optics, to firmly cement it in the world of firearms.”

What sets the StA-61 apart from the rifles of previous Killzone games?

“While earlier rifles were mostly based on upgraded versions of the proven StA-14 system, this one has been redesigned from the ground up. It fires high-precision, even-heavier-caliber rounds to perform in a sniper role – but at the same time, it manages to be compact and mobile enough for urban operations. We even integrated a pneumatic recoil system on the barrel to allow better control of the weapon while firing on the move.”

Does that mean the StA-61 can be fired “from the hip”, like its Killzone 3 predecessors?

“Yes it can, just don’t expect it to hit anything at medium to long range that way! With the integrated recoil system, you can definitely hip-fire in close-range encounters though.”

Which types of attachments will be available for the StA-61 in Killzone: Shadow Fall?

“Aside from the aforementioned range of optics and the silencer, you can actually fit different secondary fire attachments to your rifle to adjust it to your play style and make it a more completepackage. For example, you can attach a taser to quickly stun and immobilize enemies that venture too close, or mount a pulse missile launcher to dispatch enemy bots before they locate you.

What are the biggest differences between the StA-19 and its immediate predecessor, the StA-18 from Killzone 3?

“Functionality-wise it’s the same gun, and its most distinctive features – the front-mounted drum magazine and the special cocking setup based on the classic Luger – remain intact. We did redesign the whole setup of the body, angling it downward at the front to better counter the recoil and make the weapon look even better than before.”

What role does the StA-19 have in combat? Does it have any tactical advantages?

“Its primary role is that of a backup weapon, but it will definitely hold its own when needed. In almost all cases it is better to quickly switch to your backup weapon than to reload your main weapon, and the large magazine on the StA-19 will ensure you can finish your opponents off.”

Is the StA-19 customizable with attachments, like the larger weapons in Killzone: Shadow Fall?

“Yes, there is a selection of tactical aids you can attach to the StA-19 to make it more versatile. For example, you can set it up to be complimentary with your main weapon so you can switch to your sidearm when you're going silent, for example, or when you navigate through darker areas.”

What was the starting point in designing the M55? Did you start from scratch or base it on the M82?

"The M82 has been with us since the very first Killzone game, so I wanted to stay close to the original version. I pretty much retained all the internal logic and base the setup of the original, and focused more on the external body parts, like the grips, the external casing, and the required mount points for all the new attachments."

How did the modularity of the attachments factor into the design?

"At first it didn’t make a huge difference, for the simple reason that adding mount points and rails for attachments is a basic process that helps in creating a realistic and believable design. However, when the range of available attachments extended over time, they became a much bigger part of the design of each weapon. Their individual volumes can be quite different, as well - you want the attachments to be visible on the weapon, but at the same time you also don’t want them to block out vital parts or shapes of the weapon itself. Besides that, they can add a lot of volume and completely change the silhouette of a weapon, so in the end we had to tweak a lot of detail placements and search for a delicate balance in composition and functionality between the weapon and the attachments."

What techniques did you use to make the M55 feel 'futuristic' while simultaneously keeping it grounded in believability?

"We set out to develop a more advanced overall look for the VSA weapons, so we redesigned all the external components and created a whole new body kit to fit around the original weapon. Even then, the M55 went through a lot of revisions; it is one of the core weapons we used to define the new futuristic style for our other VSA weapons, so we wanted to get it just right. You’ll notice that the M55 shares many small details and features with other VSA weapons.

Thankfully, the construction and logic of the weapon didn’t need many adjustments throughout this revision process. We mainly focused on the lines, replacing rounded ergonomic forms with more angular sides and lines like those of a stealth plane. The end result works really well with our material shaders and lighting. It also stays close to the M55’s predecessor in terms of volume and feel, while rocking a completely new look."

In previous Killzone games, there was a clear difference in design philosophy between Helghast weapons and ISA weapons. Is that still the case?

"The basic design philosophy of the weapons hasn’t changed for either faction. The ‘high accuracy and quality versus high fire rates and quantity’ approach still stands, and will reflect back on the weapon designs. However, because we were aiming for a more futuristic look this time, the Helghast weapons made a bigger leap forward in terms of quality. To prevent the VSA and Helghast weapons from becoming too alike, we started looking at a wider range of changes to reinforce the differences.

We kept the massive ammo drums of the Helghast and the comparatively small ammo box magazines of the VSA. We also upped the color differentiation between both factions, and created unique versions of each weapon attachment for both factions."

Speaking of attachments, how extendable is the functionality of the M55?

"As one of the standard weapons with an all-round performance, the M55 has a good range of attachments available, allowing you to modify its setup to suit any operation, situation or personal preference. For example, you can choose between a range of combat sights, from the basic short range dot sight, to the more advanced HOLO and long-to-medium range ACOG sight. Beyond that, you can add secondary fire attachments to your weapon, like the shotgun for close quarters combat or the grenade launcher for a more supportive role."

How has the look of the Helghast assault rifle evolved over the past 30 years?

“A lot has happened to the Helghast visual style since they began moving to Vekta 30 years ago. Simply put, we’ve made sure they caught up in time. We changed a lot of the materials and construction techniques on the weapons, to elevate them out of the World War 2 inspired root. This brings them more in line with what you would expect of modern/future weapons, without losing that authentic and functional look of the Killzone weapons.

To provide a simple example, we motorized the Helghast ammo drums, adding an authentic whirring motor sound to the guns when feeding ammo and providing a more distinct sound when emptying the magazine. We also unified the look of the weapons more, since the Helghast faction represents a single design and production entity and this should reflect on the weapons. At the same time, we tried to maintain the unique look, feel and experience of each individual weapon as much as possible.”

Were there any real-life weapons that served as the inspiration for the StA-55’s new look?

“We always look at real life weapons for inspiration – not just for the external design, but also for the internals and the handling of the weapon. For the new look I wanted to stay close to the original’s silhouette and setup, so the main focus was updating the materials and construction. Good examples for construction and materials reference would be the G36 and the MTAR.”

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Aside from cosmetic changes, are there functional differences between the StA-52 and the StA-55?

“It’s still the same work horse of the Helghast, doing the same thing: a high fire rate with a big magazine in a nice, compact package. It’s the perfect all-round weapon if you don’t require high accuracy. So there are no new surprises on the weapon in terms of functionality.

The biggest functional change, and one that is not limited to the StA-55, is the reintroduction of attachments. We can switch out various sights and optics, secondary weapon attachments, grips, flashlights, silencers – you name it. This makes the StA-55 even more versatile, but it did require us to go over some functional and cosmetic changes to be able to make them all fit on the weapon in an appealing and functional manner.”

Q: Will Killzone Shadow Fall multiplayer have a variable frame rate?

A: No, we’re running 60fps. However, the game may drop a few frames in extreme situations – when there are a lot of GPU-intensive things going on at once. Guaranteeing a constant 60fps under such circumstances would’ve required undesired concessions.We wanted to make sure Killzone Shadow Fall multiplayer would present a visual spectacle, boasting a stunning level of detail in 1080p at 60fps, while still allowing 24 players and their drones (effectively 48 entities) to take part at once. We’re very proud of the results – when you move through the maps you’ll notice lots of intricate details, from beautiful reflective surfaces to individually moving leaves on the foliage.

After the Assault Class and the Scout Class, we’ve now arrived at the third and arguably most versatile of Killzone Shadow Fall’s multiplayer classes: the Support Class.The primary ability of the Support Class is the Revive Drone, which deploys a hovering medical robot that can resuscitate critically wounded comrades. Dying team mates who accept medical treatment and are successfully revived will receive full health with additional ammo and a temporary 25% health boost. They also avoid losing a life and having to start over from the spawn point – which can make all the difference during intense matches, particularly in custom Warzones with limited lives turned on. Unlike the Assault and Scout players, which both have three secondary abilities to choose from, the Support players can choose from five secondary abilities: Air Support Drone: The Air Support Drone ability deploys a flying combat drone that protects the area indicated by the Support player and unleashes minigun fire on any enemies that get close. Spawn Beacon: The Spawn Beacon ability sets up a temporary in-field spawn point for team mates. Spawn Beacons can be placed almost anywhere in the map, but it takes a while to install them and they’re vulnerable to enemy fire. Turret: The Turret ability deploys a sentry turret that will automatically target enemies in its forward facing field of view. While not indestructible, sentry turrets are ideal for guarding choke points and defending mission-critical areas. Supply Box: This ability lets Support Class players set up a Supply Box, which team members can use to stock up on health and ammo. The box can be destroyed by enemy players. Support Teleport: The Support Teleport ability allows Support Class players to teleport directly to a team mate in need of medical or tactical assistance. The teleportation device has a lengthy recharge time after each use. Fulfilling the crucial supporting roles that enable other players to complete objectives and continue to fight, Support players form the backbone of any successful team. Advanced Support players will pay close attention to the flow of battle and the current mission objectives, adjusting their secondary abilities between spawns if necessary.

We’ve also received several questions about the new Classes and their abilities:

  • Q: What happened to [multiplayer class X] from previous Killzone games?
  • A: There are now three classes to choose from in Killzone Shadow Fall: Assault Class, Support Class and Scout Class. Classes from previous Killzone titles such as the Tactician, Engineer and Medic are now represented by the secondary abilities of the highly versatile Support Class. We’ll have more on the Support Class and the Scout Class in upcoming articles.
  • Q: How are the Assault Class Nano Shields balanced?
  • A: As mentioned in our Assault Class article, Nano Shields can block enemy attacks while allowing your projectiles through. Activation isn’t instantaneous, though – there’s a slight delay as you set it up, and you won’t be able to wield your weapon during this period. After activation you have to wait until the shield is destroyed or dismantled before you can place a new one.
  • Q: How are the Support Class Spawn Beacons balanced?A: Killzone Shadow Fall sees the return of player-deployed spawn points, known as Spawn Beacons. The Support Class has the ability to place them almost anywhere in the map (like Killzone 2’s Spawn Grenades), but it takes a while to set them up (like Killzone 3’s Tactical Spawn Points). Spawn Beacons can be destroyed by any class, although some weapons will yield quicker results than others.
Scout players excel at catching the enemy unaware, biding their time until they see an opportunity to strike – either from very far away, or from very nearby. Armed for long-distance takedowns and clean, efficient kills, Scout players are usually difficult to spot in battle until it’s too late. Their stealth capabilities are further enhanced by the Cloak ability, which renders them all but invisible at a distance when activated. The new phase-shifting tech used for the Cloak ability does have its limits, though; it can only be used in conjunction with a combat knife, as larger weapons will disrupt the effect. In addition to the primary Cloak ability, Scout players can choose from one of three secondary abilities: Tactical Echo The Tactical Echo ability lets Scout players send out a radar pulse that temporarily highlights all enemy troops and automata within range – even other Scouts using the Cloak ability. This information is then relayed to allied HUDs and radars. Emergency Teleport Based on the same technology that lets Spawn Beacons to teleport troops into battle, the Emergency Teleport ability allows Scout players to teleport to a random part of the map when they run into trouble. However, the teleportation device has a lengthy recharge time. Stun Drone The Stun Drone ability deploys a flying combat drone that waits in an area until it detects an enemy nearby. When attacking, it flies directly at the enemy and detonates an E-Pulse that temporarily blinds and stuns them. While Scout players are certainly capable of operating as lone wolves, truly effective Scouts will know when to use their abilities for the benefit of the team. The Tactical Echo ability in particular gives a tremendous advantage in combat, especially in situations where the opposing team is firmly entrenched or has several Scout players of its own.

Next, a couple of points about weapons in Killzone Shadow Fall multiplayer:

Q: Will rocket launchers be secondary weapons, like in Killzone 3?

A: Rocket launchers aren’t secondary weapons like they were for certain


in Killzone 3. Instead, grenade launchers and rocket launchers will be available as attachments for the heavier primary weapons. This means less weapon switching in the heat of battle.

Q: I prefer hip-firing rather than aiming down sights – can I still do that?A: If you’re one of those players endowed with dead aim, you’ll be happy to know that ‘hip-firing’ (firing a weapon without using the sights) is still an option in Killzone Shadow Fall multiplayer. Some weapons can only be fired by aiming down the sights, however – particularly the heavier/more dangerous ones.

Assault players can usually be found at the forefront of battle, heading the offensive. With five punch-packing primary weapons to choose from, they can overwhelm their enemies with sheer firepower. Don’t overlook their defensive potential, either – the primary ability of the Assault Class is the Nano Shield, which allows players to deploy a temporary energy screen that block enemy attacks while letting allied projectiles through. In addition to the primary Nano Shield ability, Assault players can choose one of three secondary abilities: Speed Dash The Speed Dash ability lets Assault players move faster for a short amount of time. It is very useful for seizing the initiative during mission modes where speed is of the essence, such as Search & Destroy. It can also be used to beat a hasty retreat when ammo supplies and health run low. Stun Blast The Stun Blast ability temporarily stuns and blinds nearby enemies, making them easier to target. It is ideal for quickly turning the tables when faced with a particularly resilient opponent, or for situations where enemies are attacking from multiple directions. Buddy Drone The Buddy Drone ability deploys a flying combat drone that automatically attacks nearby enemies. As such, it works as an effective counter against impending brutal melee attacks. The Buddy Drone can be customized with skins. Assault players who master their primary and secondary abilities are formidable opponents in combat, but like all classes their abilities do have counters - a well placed E-Pulse attack can be devastating against a deployed Nano Shield or Buddy Droid. Still, it’s better to avoid direct encounters with Assault players where possible, so learn to recognize their Helghast and VSA incarnations using the diagram and the screenshots below:

Concerning the new Custom Warzones feature:

  • Q: Will there be official Warzones?

    A: For those who prefer their Warzones tried-and-tested, there will be default Warzones to play in. In addition, Guerrilla will frequently try out and highlight new and interesting custom Warzones created by the community. Both types of Warzones will be easily accessible from inside the game.
    Q: Can Challenges be completed in bots-only Warzones?A: To emphasize true skill and prevent players from artificially boosting their stats, custom Warzone games featuring bots will not count towards completing challenges in the Progression System.
    Q: Can I play Custom Warzones against just my friends?A: Custom Warzones can be private games that only you and friends can play. This is particularly useful if you want to train in a less competitive environment, or if your custom Warzone is a work in progress that you’re not ready to share with the community yet.

A word about Killzone Shadow Fall multiplayer network structure and colorblind support:

Q: What is Killzone Shadow Fall’s multiplayer network structure like?

A: Killzone Shadow Fall has dedicated servers hosted in various regions around the world. These servers do not run the logic of the game – they only act as a hub between the clients, forwarding

network traffic

from one player in game to all other players in game.

This allows people with a slower connection or strict firewall settings to play without issues. Almost all logic relating to you (e.g. moving, shooting and taking damage) runs on your local PS4, with only a very small portion of the game logic (i.e. mission/scoring logic) running on the ‘session master’, one PS4 in the game selected for its connection quality.

Q: Will Killzone Shadow Fall offer colorblind support?

A: Killzone Shadow Fall will have colorblind support options that can be activated from the options menu.

Finally, the recent

Season Pass announcement

generated some confusion, so we’d like to clear that up:


If multiplayer map packs are free, what is the Season Pass for?

A: The Killzone Shadow Fall Season Pass entitles you to:- an online co-op expansion pack that introduces a brand-new horde mode for up to 4 players- three arena map packs for use with the online co-op expansion pack, and- two additional multiplayer expansion packs that will be detailed at a later date.The expansion packs and map packs covered by the Season Pass

do not

include maps for Killzone Shadow Fall’s built-in multiplayer mode – as we’ve said


, such maps will be released for free so as not to fragment the online community.

Killzone: Shadow Fall is set to be an exclusive launch title for the PlayStation 4 come November.

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Guerrilla is a growing game development studio with an established reputation as one of Europe's leading game companies. It was founded in 2000 as the result of a merger between three smaller Dutch studios, and acquired by Sony Computer Entertainment in 2005. In 2012, it welcomed the SCE Cambridge Studio into the fold. Guerrilla now operates in the Netherlands and the United Kingdom, employing over 200 developers from 25 different nationalities. The Dutch studio is located in the bustling cultural center of Amsterdam, while the British studio is based in the beautiful town of Cambridge.

Guerrilla is a growing game development studio with an established reputation as one of Europe's leading game companies. It was founded in 2000 as the result of a merger between three smaller Dutch studios, and acquired by Sony Computer Entertainment in 2005. In 2012, it welcomed the SCE Cambridge Studio into the fold. Guerrilla now operates in the Netherlands and the United Kingdom, employing over 200 developers from 25 different nationalities. The Dutch studio is located in the bustling cultural center of Amsterdam, while the British studio is based in the beautiful university town of Cambridge.

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After the successful release of the original Killzone on PlayStation 2 (2004), Guerrilla went on to create the critically acclaimed PlayStation Portable spin-off, Killzone: Liberation (2006), and the award-winning PlayStation 3 sequels, Killzone 2 (2009) and Killzone 3 (2011). The company released Killzone Trilogy to eager audiences in October of 2012, and is currently working on three new titles: Killzone: Mercenary for PlayStation Vita, Killzone Shadow Fall for PlayStation 4, and a brand-new, as-yet unnamed IP.

HERMEN HULST: Managing Director & Co-Founder

As Managing Director, Hermen is responsible for the company's direction and ultimately for Guerrilla’s games from a creative and commercial perspective. He gained his first experience in the games industry during his student years at Ubisoft in the USA, and started his professional career at Philips Electronics in Strategic

Marketing. He subsequently worked as a management consultant at Andersen Consulting before returning to the games industry. Hermen has been the Managing Director of Guerrilla since 2001, and the Vice President for Sony Computer Entertainment’s World Wide Studios in Europe since 2011. He holds a Master of Science in Industrial Engineering and Management and graduated in Philosophy from the University of Amsterdam.

MICHIEL VAN DER LEEUW: Technical Director

As a Technical Director, Michiel van der Leeuw defines Guerrilla’s overall technology strategy. Proficient in a broad range of programming fields from an early age, Michiel worked on Epic MegaGames’ Jazz Jackrabbit 2 engine while he was still in high school. He left college to pursue a full-time career in the games industry,

successively becoming Guerrilla’s Lead Programmer on Killzone 1, Lead Tech on Killzone 2, and Technical Director from Killzone 3 onwards.


As Art Director, Jan-Bart van Beek oversees the art and animation quality at Guerrilla and Guerrilla Cambridge. A photography student at the Royal Academy of Fine Arts in The Hague, Jan-Bart turned to computer graphics software to enhance his work. After graduation he applied his knowledge as a

CG artist in the field of advertising. His ambition to create something more enduring led him to join Guerrilla, where he quickly became the Lead Artist on Killzone 1 and the Art Director on Killzone 2 and beyond.


As Game Director, Steven ter Heide is responsible for the vision and quality of the design of Guerrilla’s upcoming project, Killzone: Shadow Fall. Steven began his career designing pilot training programs at KLM, before making the jump to educational games for children at CMG.

In 2005 he joined Guerrilla, where he went from Producer on Killzone: Liberation to Senior Producer on Killzone 2 and Killzone 3. Somewhere along the way, Steven’s talent for creating ingenious schedules helped him discover his creative side.

ANGIE SMETS: Executive Producer

As Executive Producer, Angie Smets coordinates and supervises the development of Guerrilla's latest title. A Design Academy Eindhoven alum with a keen interest in Human-Computer Interaction, Angie began

hercareer as designer on a variety of media platforms, both traditional and digital. After joining Guerrilla in 2003, she rose from the role of Interface Designer on Killzone 1 to Visual Design Manager on Killzone: Liberation, to Senior Producer on Killzone 2 and Killzone 3, to Executive Producer on Killzone: Shadow Fall.

Thank you so much, Guerrila!

Alright so there you go.

I have to say this thread was a lot harder than I expected and I was in wayy over my head. Holy shit! This thread was harder to create than both the PS4 and Xbox one threads put together! Who would've thought. For this reason alone, I'm hyping Killzone a 10/10. But that's just me personally and doesn't reflect the hype of all cows, so hold your tits lemmings.

#2 Posted by Suppaman100 (4365 posts) -

#3 Posted by MasterChiefYolo (36 posts) -

lolz k

#4 Posted by Szminsky (1436 posts) -

I came too early.. sry!

#5 Edited by freedomfreak (43545 posts) -
@Szminsky said:

I came too early.. sry!

That's what she said.

#6 Edited by Szminsky (1436 posts) -

@freedomfreak said:
@Szminsky said:

I came too early.. sry!

That's what she said.


#7 Edited by PonchoTaco (2646 posts) -

This is one of the more impressive hype threads I've seen in a long time. Well done, TC. Too bad the game's a big, fat flop.

#8 Posted by Shewgenja (11026 posts) -

Never thought I'd be hyped or a console shooter, but this is one game I have to play.

#9 Edited by MajesticShea (730 posts) -

Dude i already made one :/

#10 Edited by I_can_haz (6511 posts) -

:/ The "Killzone 2 fan made Live Action Trailer" pic you posted is actually from the Official Killzone Shadowfall TV spot ad. It's not fanmade, it's made by SONY...

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Great hype thread though. Best I've ever seen on SW, mods should sticky this.

#11 Posted by Netherscourge (16354 posts) -

I have no idea how the game will score, but the OP get's a 10/10

#12 Posted by NameIess_One (1077 posts) -

Nice work, OP!

How refreshing to see a quality hype thread with lots of effort put into it... sadly, none of the recent major releases had one due to next gen anticipation, though GS redesign probably played a part as well.

#13 Posted by megaspiderweb09 (3686 posts) -

And here i was thinking, none of the next generation games would have any hype thread at all

#14 Posted by _Matt_ (9436 posts) -

@majesticshea said:

Dude i already made one :/

:( Dang. That's cold, true too,

TC amazing hype thread (understatement), but technically you were second to the punch.

#15 Posted by John_Matherson (2086 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

@majesticshea said:

Dude i already made one :/

:( Dang. That's cold, true too,

TC amazing hype thread (understatement), but technically you were second to the punch.

Really? Come on. Dude, that wasn't a hype thread. That was a "insert title and poll here and call it a day" thread.

Hype threads are system wars tradition and they're monumental, and putting effort into the thread is a way of honoring whatever is being hyped. You can't just post the name of a game and a poll on a thread and call it a hype thread. Not how it works, dude!

#16 Posted by GoldenElementXL (3905 posts) -

I'm pulling for an 8. The single player seems a little too open and slow kinda of like Crysis 2&3. It looks like a great launch title though.

#17 Posted by _Matt_ (9436 posts) -

@John_Matherson said:

@_Matt_ said:

@majesticshea said:

Dude i already made one :/

:( Dang. That's cold, true too,

TC amazing hype thread (understatement), but technically you were second to the punch.

Really? Come on. Dude, that wasn't a hype thread. That was a "insert title and poll here and call it a day" thread.

Hype threads are system wars tradition and they're monumental, and putting effort into the thread is a way of honoring whatever is being hyped. You can't just post the name of a game and a poll on a thread and call it a hype thread. Not how it works, dude!

Oh. I assumed he had tweaked it since I first saw it.

Yeah very valid point, I'll just back out of this argument, not one I can continue :P .

Amazing thread though, man, I am hyped :)

#18 Posted by MajesticShea (730 posts) -

@John_Matherson said:

@_Matt_ said:

@majesticshea said:

Dude i already made one :/

:( Dang. That's cold, true too,

TC amazing hype thread (understatement), but technically you were second to the punch.

Really? Come on. Dude, that wasn't a hype thread. That was a "insert title and poll here and call it a day" thread.

Hype threads are system wars tradition and they're monumental, and putting effort into the thread is a way of honoring whatever is being hyped. You can't just post the name of a game and a poll on a thread and call it a hype thread. Not how it works, dude!

I spent 14 days working on it :(

#19 Posted by John_Matherson (2086 posts) -

@_Matt_ said:

@John_Matherson said:

@_Matt_ said:

@majesticshea said:

Dude i already made one :/

:( Dang. That's cold, true too,

TC amazing hype thread (understatement), but technically you were second to the punch.

Really? Come on. Dude, that wasn't a hype thread. That was a "insert title and poll here and call it a day" thread.

Hype threads are system wars tradition and they're monumental, and putting effort into the thread is a way of honoring whatever is being hyped. You can't just post the name of a game and a poll on a thread and call it a hype thread. Not how it works, dude!

Oh. I assumed he had tweaked it since I first saw it.

Yeah very valid point, I'll just back out of this argument, not one I can continue :P .

Amazing thread though, man, I am hyped :)

Thank you :)

#20 Edited by Darthmatt (8966 posts) -

Having played 2 and 3 I know what to expect from this game. Top notch execution on a technical and creative level (ships, robots, levels, effects...etc), but middling combat and story. Despite that, I think its going to be one hell of a ride.

#21 Posted by I_can_haz (6511 posts) -

:) Sticky this awesome thread mods.

#22 Posted by John_Matherson (2086 posts) -

@I_can_haz said:

:) Sticky this awesome thread mods.

Yeah I think the review embargo expires tomorrow. This place crazy tomorrow morning

#23 Posted by SharpBlades3 (24 posts) -

Very cool op, even if I just about wore my tablet screen out scrollin' down, lol. Definitely looking forward to this game...even more so after this thread, nice job.

#24 Edited by Spartan070 (16380 posts) -

Makes Xbox One hype thread one day, Killzone SF hype thread the next...

#25 Edited by BruceBenzing (360 posts) -

Man this hype thread scores higher then the game will....

#26 Posted by WallofTruth (2098 posts) -

Wow, that game looks dull, and the hype thread is tl;dr.

What is with the Killzone 1440p gameplay? Consoles can't do that or they'd melt lawl.

#27 Posted by John_Matherson (2086 posts) -

@walloftruth said:

Wow, that game looks dull, and the hype thread is tl;dr.

What is with the Killzone 1440p gameplay? Consoles can't do that or they'd melt lawl.

Troll Harder

#28 Posted by Sweenix (5957 posts) -

lol, you too have the same avatar, thought you were talking to yourself

#29 Posted by WallofTruth (2098 posts) -

@Sweenix said:

lol, you too have the same avatar, thought you were talking to yourself

Yeah he copied me and then said I copied him, dunno what's the point of that.

#30 Posted by WallofTruth (2098 posts) -
@John_Matherson said:

@walloftruth said:

What is with the Killzone 1440p gameplay? Consoles can't do that or they'd melt lawl.

Troll Harder

If you truly believe that Killzone can run at 1440p on the PS4 then you're an idiot.

#31 Edited by timbers_WSU (6076 posts) -

LOL....Do Cows have Killzone? UHH, No.

But I do have mine and I am guessing it will be an 8 on Gamespot and around 82 or 83 on Metacritic. Multiplayer will again hurt the games score.

#32 Posted by kingtito (5283 posts) -

How does this game get hyped up to be an 8 when it's all cows talk about?

#33 Posted by cainetao11 (19551 posts) -

@John_Matherson said:

@_Matt_ said:

@majesticshea said:

Dude i already made one :/

:( Dang. That's cold, true too,

TC amazing hype thread (understatement), but technically you were second to the punch.

Really? Come on. Dude, that wasn't a hype thread. That was a "insert title and poll here and call it a day" thread.

Hype threads are system wars tradition and they're monumental, and putting effort into the thread is a way of honoring whatever is being hyped. You can't just post the name of a game and a poll on a thread and call it a hype thread. Not how it works, dude!

Yeah that's how it always seemed to be. This, like your X1 hype thread is amazing, bro. Great job, I hyped AAA, sad to see the Hype game has become so conservative.

#34 Posted by I_can_haz (6511 posts) -

I've strapped in....

#35 Posted by cainetao11 (19551 posts) -

@kingtito said:

How does this game get hyped up to be an 8 when it's all cows talk about?


#36 Posted by ankor77 (1060 posts) -

I picked up mine today in the Target buy 2 get 1 free. With all the talk about this game from Sony diehards you would think the hype is 10 or bust, at least a 9. I think there are some lowered expectations to avoid the "flop". Either way an 8 is a very good score for gamespot standards.

I think the gist of the reviews will be 1. Beautiful game. 2. doesn't do anything new 3. Decent multiplayer

#37 Posted by Wasdie (50643 posts) -

Great thread. I stuck it because we need a Killzone Shadow Fall hype thread given the weight of this game.

#38 Posted by XxR3m1xInHDn3D (2365 posts) -

This game will score a 9 or higher regardless of how good it is because of next gen, the main PS4 exclusive and the special treatment Sony pay reviewers for. I am shocked that the cow hype is only an 8

#39 Posted by SonofK (1088 posts) -

So that's it? Biggest PS4 game and only AA Hype?

#40 Posted by FragTycoon (6430 posts) -

Lems all pissed because no matter what KZ is going to meet or exceed hype and be the best launch game this gen.

#41 Posted by Heil68 (47214 posts) -

I got my copy :D

#42 Posted by ankor77 (1060 posts) -

Resogun will be the best launch game for PS4, I dont care that it's a downloadable game! And on XB1 side Im guessing Forza or Killer Instinct. Forza will do 8-9 and killer instinct will do 7-8.

#43 Posted by 2mrw (5218 posts) -

This is some hardcore work ... great job TC

I will hype it 9

#44 Edited by John_Matherson (2086 posts) -

@FragTycoon said:

Lems all pissed because no matter what KZ is going to meet or exceed hype and be the best launch game this gen.

This is true but it's obvious that cows are now cowards. Everyone with common sense knows the game looks at least 9/10 worth of score. We only voted for 8/10 cause we're cowards and we want to avoid floppage. Fuck that. I'll change it to 9/10 soon!

#45 Posted by John_Matherson (2086 posts) -

Hey, so I know this girl. She's really hot and perfect and nice and just everything you could ever want. She volunteers at the free clinic every weekend, she knows how to fix cars, she's a pro gamer, she's this she's that, she's this!

Oh, nice. So if you had to give her a 1-10 rating scale what would you give her?

An 8.

What? But you just said she....

Yeah 8 is what I'd give her

But you said she...

#46 Posted by timbers_WSU (6076 posts) -

I am gonna kick your ass in Killzone Heil68!

#47 Posted by FragTycoon (6430 posts) -


You care to much about this.

#48 Posted by John_Matherson (2086 posts) -

@FragTycoon said:


You care to much about this.

I'm just disappointed.

#49 Posted by John_Matherson (2086 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

Great thread. I stuck it because we need a Killzone Shadow Fall hype thread given the weight of this game.

Hey, your sticky didn't stick : /

#50 Posted by timbers_WSU (6076 posts) -

@FragTycoon said:


You care to much about this.

Someone has too because Cows apparently don't.