Oculus Rift + PC = 'next generation consloles' are a joke

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#101 christiankhs-2
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Virtual reality done right? I hope, this has been my dream for like 15 years
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#102 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

For the size of the screen, and the distance from your eyes the RIFT needs to be at the very least 1440p

GioVela2010

Everyone who has tried it loves it to death.

You mad? INferior consoles always inferior.

Y would I be mad? My PC can handle it and ill own one. Unlike you

I'm glad even the biggest consolites will buy this day one.

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#103 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]Everyone who has tried it loves it to death.

You mad? INferior consoles always inferior.

Jankarcop

Y would I be mad? My PC can handle it and ill own one. Unlike you

I'm glad even the biggest consolites will buy this day one.

you won't
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#104 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"] Y would I be mad? My PC can handle it and ill own one. Unlike you  GioVela2010

I'm glad even the biggest consolites will buy this day one.

you won't

Im not a gamer. Dont' be angry yo.

But i'm glad PC is (as usual) driving gaming forward. Especially with this nifty peice of tech.!

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#105 k2theswiss
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

I'm glad even the biggest consolites will buy this day one.

Jankarcop

you won't

Im not a gamer. Dont' be angry yo.

But i'm glad PC is (as usual) driving gaming forward. Especially with this nifty peice of tech.!

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#106 NoodleFighter
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[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

too bad it has some hefty system requirements plus you'll probably need to get a new display that outputs higher than 1080p if you don't have one other than that enthusiast will love it

Kinthalis

??? Do you even know what the Oculus Rift is?

woops mix up, however it still uses 3D which will eat up performance

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#107 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]you won't  k2theswiss

Im not a gamer. Dont' be angry yo.

But i'm glad PC is (as usual) driving gaming forward. Especially with this nifty peice of tech.!

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#108 k2theswiss
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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

too bad it has some hefty system requirements plus you'll probably need to get a new display that outputs higher than 1080p if you don't have one other than that enthusiast will love it

NoodleFighter

??? Do you even know what the Oculus Rift is?

woops mix up, however it still uses 3D which will eat up performance

then update that old trash of yours...
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#109 naz99
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I don't know this looks like one of those things that will need years to get out of the gimmick territory.

glez13

Considering VR is about 25 years old now, i would say it's been years.....

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#110 elessarGObonzo
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Imagine it's 1930.

You're friend just bought a new invention, the TV.

You chastise him and call him a 'nerd' or 'hermit' because nothing can be better than radio, can it?

Of course not. Radio is the best. Just like pre-smart-phones.

Enter the oculus rift, what tech writers are calling the first 'big invention' in entertainment since television.

Is it on console? Nope. Will it ever be? Perhaps.haberman13

same as kinect is the most awesome thing ever, like it was hyped? both will suck and still be for cheesy dancing games or something of the sort...and will barely work for anything else?

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#111 dramaybaz
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Side question: What is its effect on ones vision?
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#112 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="haberman13"]

Imagine it's 1930.

You're friend just bought a new invention, the TV.

You chastise him and call him a 'nerd' or 'hermit' because nothing can be better than radio, can it?

Of course not. Radio is the best. Just like pre-smart-phones.

Enter the oculus rift, what tech writers are calling the first 'big invention' in entertainment since television.

Is it on console? Nope. Will it ever be? Perhaps.elessarGObonzo

same as kinect is the most awesome thing ever, like it was hyped? both will suck and still be for cheesy dancing games or something of the sort...and will barely work for anything else?

This is nothing like kinect. This is actually making everyone who tries it want to use it more.

The opposite effect of kinect.

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#113 V3rciS
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Side question: What is its effect on ones vision?dramaybaz

Some people experienced dizziness but this was only because you body and brain were still not used to it. While in game your eyes see that you actually move around and sending signals to your brain however your legs are not moving thus causing confusion and a mild dizziness but that's only the first few times you use it, after that your brain learns the experience and adopts. Judging by this... the immersion should be very realistic and good, if you can get your brain confused I'd say we're heading the right direction.

As far as if there's any vision damage, I don't know but no reports still about this issue. I think should be okay as soon as you ain't got any serious problems with your eyes from before.

People that say it's the same overrated as Kinect, they simply do not realise what we're talking about over here... man it's a new world!

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#114 V3rciS
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I'm just not sure what kind of a social impact it might have... I'm afraid it might be very addictive... forget about people talking about WoW addiction etc... it's all gonna be a joke. I hope people won't be hooked that much and waste their lives in this VR worlds.

Some users that tried it stated that the experience was so intense that they got tired... I'm actually glad that your body reacts to it otherwise you'd be doing for hours and hours straight.

Also my personal future prediction... if the company behind Rift... will succeed in delivering and marketing it correctly trust me in a couple of years they gonna build a rich empire.

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#115 RyviusARC
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it's gonna demand some power since 3D is need

NoodleFighter

I though the screens inside of it were 720P.

720P in 3D is not that demanding.

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#116 V3rciS
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[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

it's gonna demand some power since 3D is need

RyviusARC

I though the screens inside of it were 720P.

720P in 3D is not that demanding.

It needs some power certainly... creators admited. When creating VR in order for the exerince to be as realistic as possible you'll need a good GPU for all these details to be fully shown... yet the most important thing is latency and frame rate. You need to have high frame rates and as much as possible small latency otherwise you'll be seeing textures being drawn and rendered in front of you.

Also forgot to mention that with Oculus Rift games for first time will have true depth... until now it was all pseudo depth. Means your character and the world will have the correct size and structure according to anatomy.

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#117 Masenkoe
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This is nothing like kinect. This is actually making everyone who tries it want to use it more.

The opposite effect of kinect.

Jankarcop

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#118 RyviusARC
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Imagine playing the new Amnesia game with this....

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#119 Master_ShakeXXX
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What the f*ck is it.

A new monitor?

ZombieKiller7

It's just a new stupid gimmick, like Kinect and motion controls before it.

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#120 Jankarcop
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Imagine playing the new Amnesia game with this....

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#121 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

What the f*ck is it.

A new monitor?

Master_ShakeXXX

It's just a new stupid gimmick, like Kinect and motion controls before it.

except for the 100% approval rate from anyone who tries it. That minor detail you forgot to look at:cool:

Yeah, moreso than 3d or motion.

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#122 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

What the f*ck is it.

A new monitor?

Jankarcop

It's just a new stupid gimmick, like Kinect and motion controls before it.

except for the 100% approval rate from anyone who tries it. That minor detail you forgot to look at:cool:

Yeah, moreso than 3d or motion.

Probably the same people who approved of Kinect.

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#123 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

It's just a new stupid gimmick, like Kinect and motion controls before it.

Master_ShakeXXX

except for the 100% approval rate from anyone who tries it. That minor detail you forgot to look at:cool:

Yeah, moreso than 3d or motion.

Probably the same people who approved of Kinect.

100% approvan rate from everyone. Kinect had mixed reviewed.

The reaction from this thing is rare. Watch the vids.

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#124 Timstuff
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It might be cool to use this with Razor Hydra, although at this point I think Hydra is basically abandonware. :(

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#125 arto1223
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it's gonna demand some power since 3D is need

NoodleFighter

But isn't at 480 resolution? That is a cakewalk.

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#126 tubbyc
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I'm just not sure what kind of a social impact it might have... I'm afraid it might be very addictive... forget about people talking about WoW addiction etc... it's all gonna be a joke. I hope people won't be hooked that much and waste their lives in this VR worlds.

Some users that tried it stated that the experience was so intense that they got tired... I'm actually glad that your body reacts to it otherwise you'd be doing for hours and hours straight.

Also my personal future prediction... if the company behind Rift... will succeed in delivering and marketing it correctly trust me in a couple of years they gonna build a rich empire.

V3rciS

I wonder what kind of twisted, messed up nightmares you could end up having if you spend a lot of time in the more violent, realistic games. I guess it would be ok if you don't get into it for hours and hours, day after day. Maybe lay off a bit if you start waking up at 3 in the morning after dreaming about getting your face eaten by a zombie.

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#127 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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I fail to see how the Oculus Rift is anything like the Kinect.

If anything can be labeled a gimmick just because it's new then why weren't joysticks chastised? Why are smartphones so popular?

That logic is ridiculous. Something that could revolutionize gaming shouldn't be discarded so quickly. Especially when you haven't even tried it.

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#128 haberman13
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How is there debate about this?

We have loads of evidence that this is a 'game changer' device.

When someone compares a video game experience to psychadelics you don't complain, you buy one!

  • 3D beyond anything you've seen before, in a way movies can't possibly provide (honestly, I kinda hate 3d movies ... lol)
  • Immersion beyond anything we've seen before
  • 1080p confirmed for release (which according to those who have used it, is sufficient)
  • Skyrim as close to the holodeck we're going to get

Only the dead have an excuse not to be excited.

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#129 emgesp
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I'd rather use a Wiimote for the rest of my life than having to wear an annoying headset to play games.


VR Goggles will never become the new standard in regards to the way we play our games in the future.
It's far more likely that glasses-free 3D television displays will make a bigger impact than a VR headset.

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#130 haberman13
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[QUOTE="haberman13"]

Imagine it's 1930.

You're friend just bought a new invention, the TV.

You chastise him and call him a 'nerd' or 'hermit' because nothing can be better than radio, can it?

Of course not. Radio is the best. Just like pre-smart-phones.

Enter the oculus rift, what tech writers are calling the first 'big invention' in entertainment since television.

Is it on console? Nope. Will it ever be? Perhaps.elessarGObonzo

same as kinect is the most awesome thing ever, like it was hyped? both will suck and still be for cheesy dancing games or something of the sort...and will barely work for anything else?

You stopped reading there huh?

How about the impressions? Videos? Multitude of articles calling this the next revolution?

Kinect ... I literally loled the first time I saw it. Did you lol when you thought about playing Skyrim in a holodeck? I didn't ... but a tear did form.

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#131 dxmcat
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What you gotta realize is that it renders two different images on two different screens, a genuine left eye and right eye view. No flicker, no bs.

3DTVs & Movies = Flickering different images on the same screen at a rapid rate, which bugs the **** out of most eyes.

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#132 emgesp
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What you gotta realize is that it renders two different images on two different screens, a genuine left eye and right eye view. No flicker, no bs.

3DTVs & Movies = Flickering different images on the same screen at a rapid rate, which bugs the **** out of most eyes.

dxmcat

3D televisions will only get better as technology improves. The next step in 3D television tech is getting rid of those stupid glasses. Think 3DS, but way better technology.

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#133 LongZhiZi
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I'm very interested, but I'll have to see what kind of specs are needed to run next-generation games with this. I'd assume it would be basically the same as running the game in 3D at 1080p, yes?
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#134 AlexKidd5000
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Looks to be freaking cool.
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#135 KungfuKitten
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It's a great device but it still has to tackle some 'problems':
We make many really small movements per second that help us determine the depth of objects in reallife.
Those movements will not create 3D feedback in the Oculus.
We have to focus differently on different objects because of their distance, something our brains use to determine depth of objects in reallife as well.
This does not happen in the Oculus.
Sound bounces off objects and is hindered by objects in a room and by the shape of our ears.
I haven't heard of this topic but I cannot imagine that the Oculus would demo with such advanced sound techniques yet.

I love the device, I love what they are doing and I fully support this. Let's not go too far though, to say that this is just like reallife. It still has shortcomings, challenges to overcome. I can imagine it is leaps and bounces better than what we had before the Oculus tho.

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#136 elessarGObonzo
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maybe when i talk to someone who i know and who has used it i may listen to their review. anything else, no matter where the video comes from is more than likely some bs. - saw many dumbass kinect trailers of people looking so fascinated and then people trying it at demos and still acting like they liked it. and it sucks bad.
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#137 silversix_
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not into gimmicks but this certainly is much more appealing then 3D, waggle and kinect

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#138 Rocker6
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I'd rather use a Wiimote for the rest of my life than having to wear an annoying headset to play games.


VR Goggles will never become the new standard in regards to the way we play our games in the future.
It's far more likely that glasses-free 3D television displays will make a bigger impact than a VR headset.

emgesp

I agree, bulky head contraptions were never popular, don't see this being any different...

It may get a niche following, but I simply don't see it turning into some grounbreaking success revolutionizing the gaming as we know it...

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#139 razgriz_101
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its a cool way to play but honestly like the Hydra and various other peripherals in the past it wont catch on.
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#140 Kinthalis
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I think this is a first step. And it looks like something I'll try at least, but yeah, we need step two and three, and possibly 4 before the tech actually takes off.

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#141 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="elessarGObonzo"]maybe when i talk to someone who i know and who has used it i may listen to their review. anything else, no matter where the video comes from is more than likely some bs. - saw many dumbass kinect trailers of people looking so fascinated and then people trying it at demos and still acting like they liked it. and it sucks bad.

I am not about to pre-order the thing either, however I am excited for at least the chance to try it out. I really hope that there will be opportunities to do so, because I have wanted to try on a good VR headset since I was a little kid.
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#142 k2theswiss
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[QUOTE="RyviusARC"]

Imagine playing the new Amnesia game with this....

Jankarcop

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scared?

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Next thing you know you be like this

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or

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#143 k2theswiss
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[QUOTE="elessarGObonzo"]maybe when i talk to someone who i know and who has used it i may listen to their review. anything else, no matter where the video comes from is more than likely some bs. - saw many dumbass kinect trailers of people looking so fascinated and then people trying it at demos and still acting like they liked it. and it sucks bad.

you mean you saw plenty of keynotes events on stage and trailers having fun? either kinect is cool. games are lacking that sweet spot it's fun to play for bit an move on
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#144 k2theswiss
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i hope they advertise this by may be travleing to different cities and doing events by letting people come in try it before release

something like they did for odst sounds cool. Throw everything in a truck and go

or set it up in some stupid gamestops. NA i prefer first one

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#145 amaneuvering
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@OP

Yes...for hardcore gaming geeks.

As in, it's cool but only nerds and core gamers are really going to embrace the Oculus Rift tech fully in the foreseeable future.

So...

Potentially great tech, assuming it does what it says on the tin, but it's really not going to replace mainstream console gaming any time soon.

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#146 LegatoSkyheart
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just watching videos wants me to play Amnesia with that.

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#147 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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@OP

Yes...for hardcore gaming geeks.

As in, it's cool but only nerds and core gamers are really going to embrace the Oculus Rift tech fully in the foreseeable future.

So...

Potentially great tech, assuming it does what it says on the tin, but it's really not going to replace mainstream console gaming any time soon.

amaneuvering
Captain Obvious strikes? its not like motion controls didnt exist before the wii either.
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#148 Mystery_Writer
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ya.. I pre-ordered it based on how crazy the media was raving about it. Hopefully they'll start shipping on March.
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ya.. I pre-ordered it based on how crazy the media was raving about it. Hopefully they'll start shipping on March.Mystery_Writer

You preordered the dev kit?

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#150 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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i hope they advertise this by may be travleing to different cities and doing events by letting people come in try it before release

something like they did for odst sounds cool. Throw everything in a truck and go

or set it up in some stupid gamestops. NA i prefer first one

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Would be nice if they were going to PAX East. Then I could actually get my hands on the thing and try it.