NPD January 2013 - Holy f*cking sh*t Wii U at 57K lol - Vita around 35K

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#301 Posted by cainetao11 (17598 posts) -

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Poor Wii-U. 

Poor Vita.

At least Nintendo can still eke out a decent market if they get their sh!t together in the next few months. The Vita, though... Man.

Obligatory old link for anyone who wants a good laugh at the Vita and IGN.

Blue_Shield

Of course, some will say hindsight is 20/20.

Except, it was'nt. More like foresight was 20/20.

There were people, even before launch, saying Vita might be in trouble, because of the change in the mobile market, and Sony was making the same mistakes with the Vita that they had with the PSP.

I think the big hurt, as a vita owner is the proprietary memory card and ridiculous cost. I remember MS getting so much flak for their HDD costs from cows, but none are saying it about this. I got a 32 gig flash for $18, and Sony wants what? $100 for 32 gig Vita card? Yeah they don't rip off gamers at all. None of them care about us.
#302 Posted by Blue_Shield (2610 posts) -

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]

360 is only selling in america because is american confirmed ^^^

And then they come talk about japanese consoles selling better in japan, calling japanese xenophobic...

Cubs360

The problem with that logic is that the PS3 sells well EVERYWHERE( maybe not #1, but still great numbers)... and the 360 sells like complete dog sh!t in japan..

That's because Japan has been in a economic slump for 20 plus years. They only buy Japan products because it helps with their economy. Which makes sense.

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Clearly, as you can see, you are right. The Japanese just do not like American products. I mean, it could not possibly be that the Xbox 360 just does not appeal to the Japanese.

#303 Posted by StormyJoe (5387 posts) -

[QUOTE="Cubs360"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"] The problem with that logic is that the PS3 sells well EVERYWHERE( maybe not #1, but still great numbers)... and the 360 sells like complete dog sh!t in japan..Blue_Shield

That's because Japan has been in a economic slump for 20 plus years. They only buy Japan products because it helps with their economy. Which makes sense.

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Clearly, as you can see, you are right. The Japanese just do not like American products. I mean, it could not possibly be that the Xbox 360 just does not appeal to the Japanese.

They do seem to be somewhat biased. Some of that does have to do with a lack of *quality* Japanese-centric games. Still, you have to admit, it's a bit of an anomily that the 360 and PS3 compete neck-and-neck in EU and the US, but the 360 can't sell at all in Japan.

I honestly don't expect MS to try very hard in Japan next gen. I think they will just focus on China, EU, and the US. I could be wrong on that... it's just a hunch.

#304 Posted by SuperFlakeman (7342 posts) -

[QUOTE="Blue_Shield"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Poor Wii-U. 

Poor Vita.

At least Nintendo can still eke out a decent market if they get their sh!t together in the next few months. The Vita, though... Man.

Obligatory old link for anyone who wants a good laugh at the Vita and IGN.

cainetao11

Of course, some will say hindsight is 20/20.

Except, it was'nt. More like foresight was 20/20.

There were people, even before launch, saying Vita might be in trouble, because of the change in the mobile market, and Sony was making the same mistakes with the Vita that they had with the PSP.

I think the big hurt, as a vita owner is the proprietary memory card and ridiculous cost. I remember MS getting so much flak for their HDD costs from cows, but none are saying it about this. I got a 32 gig flash for $18, and Sony wants what? $100 for 32 gig Vita card? Yeah they don't rip off gamers at all. None of them care about us.

Software sells hardware.

This talk of gigabytes and HDD is not relevant in the large scheme of things. It's about hit software and mass market appeal/price of hardware. People bought Wii Fit in droves at $100, they can afford a memory card.

1. Sony's 1st party is the weakest of the bunch, and they give their handhelds the side-treatment. The guys who did Galaxy 1 and 2 also did 3D Land which sold 8 million units on 3DS so far and helped recover the system.

2. Sony let Nintendo get away with Japanese 3rd parties; the only ones supporting handhelds, which means you've got no 1st party and no 3rd party, huh.

#305 Posted by AznbkdX (3209 posts) -

I knew what would happen once I read the title of this thread.

Bad numbers, doomed, ppl capitalizing on it to make a knock on Ninty, etc. etc.

Classic SW should stay classy. ;)

I'll just play the waiting game. All this crap about Vita or WiiU going over are just hot air as far as I'm concerned.

#306 Posted by Blue_Shield (2610 posts) -

They do seem to be somewhat biased. Some of that does have to do with a lack of *quality* Japanese-centric games. Still, you have to admit, it's a bit of an anomily that the 360 and PS3 compete neck-and-neck in EU and the US, but the 360 can't sell at all in Japan.

I honestly don't expect MS to try very hard in Japan next gen. I think they will just focus on China, EU, and the US. I could be wrong on that... it's just a hunch.StormyJoe

Not really.

As shown, Japanese do have a love for American products. It just depends on what it is, and if it appeals to them. Same as anywhere else. I mean, there's a reason the phrase "Big in Japan" was coined.

Personally, I contribute it to differences in markets, and Microsoft's poor decisions.

Otherwise, not unheard of for a product to be popular in one or two regions, but be unpopular in another.

#307 Posted by Lionheart08 (15424 posts) -

Wii U 57K confirmed

Thefatness16

Honestly, I'm not too surprised. First Party is currently lacking, so the major selling point is getting games you can already play on the 360 or PS3. The Tablet is not going to be the second coming of motion control.

#308 Posted by jessejay420 (3831 posts) -

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

Where you come from? Sorry to hear that. Here in the USA, we enjoy the status as the only global superpower. You know, the country that can shape the rest of the world through political, economic, or military means.

It's awesome here; you'd be welcome.

StormyJoe
Owned
[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Pathetic country timbers_WSU
And yet that freezer you live in could not survive without help from others and your tool is always up a piece of a Japanese man's software. So take your third world BS somewhere else. PS3 or not, you are at the bottom of the food chain.

Owned again
#309 Posted by LadyBlue (3928 posts) -

:lol: at the wiiu sales... whats spin did the sheep use this time around? rofl.gif

#310 Posted by mems_1224 (47155 posts) -
[QUOTE="Giancar"]Themajormajor is from Sweden. Anyways, guess we'll have to wait a moment for the other numbers to show up.

:lol: is he really? that explains a lot.
#311 Posted by Rayne718 (172 posts) -

Ni no Kuni was at #11 on the software chart.

Slashkice

 

not bad considering Ni no kuni came out Jan. 22nd. 

#312 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (27787 posts) -
[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Giancar"]Themajormajor is from Sweden. Anyways, guess we'll have to wait a moment for the other numbers to show up.

:lol: is he really? that explains a lot.

*shrug* Hard to bash Sweden. Most of the Swedes I've met are a chilled decent bunch (except one who was an absolute nutcase) and the country is well run.
#313 Posted by mems_1224 (47155 posts) -
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Giancar"]Themajormajor is from Sweden. Anyways, guess we'll have to wait a moment for the other numbers to show up.

:lol: is he really? that explains a lot.

*shrug* Hard to bash Sweden. Most of the Swedes I've met are a chilled decent bunch (except one who was an absolute nutcase) and the country is well run.

yea but they talk funny :P
#314 Posted by jimmypsn (4425 posts) -

360 is doing very well.  NO need to release a new console.

#315 Posted by cainetao11 (17598 posts) -

[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="Blue_Shield"]Of course, some will say hindsight is 20/20.

Except, it was'nt. More like foresight was 20/20.

There were people, even before launch, saying Vita might be in trouble, because of the change in the mobile market, and Sony was making the same mistakes with the Vita that they had with the PSP.

SuperFlakeman

I think the big hurt, as a vita owner is the proprietary memory card and ridiculous cost. I remember MS getting so much flak for their HDD costs from cows, but none are saying it about this. I got a 32 gig flash for $18, and Sony wants what? $100 for 32 gig Vita card? Yeah they don't rip off gamers at all. None of them care about us.

Software sells hardware.

This talk of gigabytes and HDD is not relevant in the large scheme of things. It's about hit software and mass market appeal/price of hardware. People bought Wii Fit in droves at $100, they can afford a memory card.

1. Sony's 1st party is the weakest of the bunch, and they give their handhelds the side-treatment. The guys who did Galaxy 1 and 2 also did 3D Land which sold 8 million units on 3DS so far and helped recover the system.

2. Sony let Nintendo get away with Japanese 3rd parties; the only ones supporting handhelds, which means you've got no 1st party and no 3rd party, huh.

well said and I do know this. I know for me, as I said, the memory card is a draw back. It's not that it cant be afforded, it's just such a cash grab, like Live.
#316 Posted by TheXFiles88 (1040 posts) -

"Vita around 35K". Holly Cow. How low can it go...

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#317 Posted by CanYouDiglt (7472 posts) -

Poor Wii-U. 

Poor Vita.

At least Nintendo can still eke out a decent market if they get their sh!t together in the next few months. The Vita, though... Man.

Obligatory old link for anyone who wants a good laugh at the Vita and IGN.

DarkLink77

If there is a article to show how biased IGN is it was this one. The way they ride Sony's jock it is as if someone like NineTailedGoku, brofists, or another on here like that wrote it.

 

#318 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (8741 posts) -

:lol: at the wiiu sales... whats spin did the sheep use this time around? rofl.gif

Pete-B
Just wait.
#319 Posted by MonsieurX (30272 posts) -

360 is doing very well.  NO need to release a new console.

jimmypsn
You already posted this and no one cared,why post a 2nd time?
#321 Posted by AznbkdX (3209 posts) -

[QUOTE="Pete-B"]

:lol: at the wiiu sales... whats spin did the sheep use this time around? rofl.gif

Xaero_Gravity

Just wait.

They definitely shouldn't be the only ones that say that.

#322 Posted by SUD123456 (4464 posts) -

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]They do seem to be somewhat biased. Some of that does have to do with a lack of *quality* Japanese-centric games. Still, you have to admit, it's a bit of an anomily that the 360 and PS3 compete neck-and-neck in EU and the US, but the 360 can't sell at all in Japan.

I honestly don't expect MS to try very hard in Japan next gen. I think they will just focus on China, EU, and the US. I could be wrong on that... it's just a hunch.Blue_Shield

Not really.

As shown, Japanese do have a love for American products. It just depends on what it is, and if it appeals to them. Same as anywhere else. I mean, there's a reason the phrase "Big in Japan" was coined.

Personally, I contribute it to differences in markets, and Microsoft's poor decisions.

Otherwise, not unheard of for a product to be popular in one or two regions, but be unpopular in another.

Japan is not in fact the same as anywhere else. Japan is excessively ethnocentric. The non-Japanese brands that do well are in categories where there is no significant domestic competitor. They also are typically iconic brands with broad fashion and style appeal. There are also a few quirky things like the relationship between hollywood and monster movies and of course baseball. Xbox is in tough against two powerful domestic brands...which is essentially an impossible task in any product category in Japan.

#323 Posted by Sir-I_exCalibur (752 posts) -
[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

360 is doing very well.  NO need to release a new console.

You already posted this and no one cared,why post a 2nd time?

Once for the 360, once for his new refurbished 360.
#324 Posted by timbers_WSU (5753 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Giancar"]Themajormajor is from Sweden. Anyways, guess we'll have to wait a moment for the other numbers to show up.blue_hazy_basic
:lol: is he really? that explains a lot.

*shrug* Hard to bash Sweden. Most of the Swedes I've met are a chilled decent bunch (except one who was an absolute nutcase) and the country is well run.

And yet instead of modding him for being a racist prick you try and tell us it is hard to bash his country. Good job.

#325 Posted by mariokart64fan (19510 posts) -

:lol: at the wiiu sales... whats spin did the sheep use this time around? rofl.gif

Pete-B

theres nothing to spin, 

as you notice there was nothing new released for the wiiu  since launch but once those games come ,  you know darn well they are coming , nintendo has time! because they released early i dont see why u sony fanboys and ms fanboys get so up tight when nintnedos systems go off to a slow start but the vita SOME HOW DOESNt get the same attention yet its selling less then both wiiu and its main competitor 3ds , which is pretty funny by  the way how much units did the original wii sales and ds sell 3ds as well remember nintendo has 4 peices of hardware for parents to choose from , 

and right now 3ds is the best option until wiiu gets those killer titles people want , 

it makes sense,  to bad no body around here uses sense,  

they just continue to slam what ever console they want against a wall for any stupid reason 

wiiu is still profitable with 1 game sold ,  and thats all that matters, 

cant say the same about ps3 can we,   yet it still came out alright , 

i still dont get why every console has to be like a ps2 wii or ps1 , to get the respect around here,  

oh wait wii never got that,     

so again ,    theres no need to spin anything facts are facts ,  you play sales fine i play games ,  

so scootch off 

#326 Posted by AdamPA1006 (6420 posts) -

Its becoming really clear to me that once the PS4 and 720 are announced, its not ever gonna be fair. ALL hype will be for those 2 consoles. Wii U will fade into oblivion

#327 Posted by super600 (30667 posts) -

Its becoming really clear to me that once the PS4 and 720 are announced, its not ever gonna be fair. ALL hype will be for those 2 consoles. Wii U will fade into oblivion

AdamPA1006

There is a chance both of those consoles could have poor launch numbers to like the WiiU.

#328 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Its becoming really clear to me that once the PS4 and 720 are announced, its not ever gonna be fair. ALL hype will be for those 2 consoles. Wii U will fade into oblivion

super600

There is a chance both of those consoles could have poor launch numbers to like the WiiU.

If a $600 PS3 could do better, i seriously doubt they will. These are monumentally bad numbers.
#329 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26735 posts) -
[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Its becoming really clear to me that once the PS4 and 720 are announced, its not ever gonna be fair. ALL hype will be for those 2 consoles. Wii U will fade into oblivion

fernandmondego_

There is a chance both of those consoles could have poor launch numbers to like the WiiU.

If a $600 PS3 could do better, i seriously doubt they will. These are monumentally bad numbers.

Not if an economy is bad enough (and these days, it's VERY bad, things were different on 2006)
#330 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -
[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="super600"]

There is a chance both of those consoles could have poor launch numbers to like the WiiU.

nintendoboy16
If a $600 PS3 could do better, i seriously doubt they will. These are monumentally bad numbers.

Not if an economy is bad enough (and these days, it's VERY bad, things were different on 2006)

Everything is doing just fine 'cept for the WiiU and Vita, the economy has nothing to do with it.
#331 Posted by super600 (30667 posts) -

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Its becoming really clear to me that once the PS4 and 720 are announced, its not ever gonna be fair. ALL hype will be for those 2 consoles. Wii U will fade into oblivion

fernandmondego_

There is a chance both of those consoles could have poor launch numbers to like the WiiU.

If a $600 PS3 could do better, i seriously doubt they will. These are monumentally bad numbers.

There are many factors that can influence how a console is received at launch. One of the factors is price. If the price of a console is way tohigh when it is released no one will buy it. The WiiU's price was kinda high and no one barely bought it at launch and is currently buying it.The economy is another one. The US economy even though it's recoverying it's recovering really slow and the US could potentially be in another recession in a year or so because of multiple factors.Also the software support and the movement of the casual market away from console. This will affect all big three's sales numbers next gen.

#332 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26735 posts) -

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]If a $600 PS3 could do better, i seriously doubt they will. These are monumentally bad numbers.fernandmondego_
Not if an economy is bad enough (and these days, it's VERY bad, things were different on 2006)

Everything is doing just fine 'cept for the WiiU and Vita, the economy has nothing to do with it.

But it's because prices are lower for certain items, something Nintendo can't afford with Wii U. How many people going to spend $400+ on something this day in age?

Even the Vita is still selling like ass due to some pricing.

#333 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Not if an economy is bad enough (and these days, it's VERY bad, things were different on 2006)

Everything is doing just fine 'cept for the WiiU and Vita, the economy has nothing to do with it.

But it's because prices are lower for certain items, something Nintendo can't afford with Wii U. Who's going to spend $400+ on something this day in age?

The prices are pretty close and they were actually higher before and still never did the PS3 and 360 ever put up such bad numbers. Not in 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13...
#334 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="super600"]

There is a chance both of those consoles could have poor launch numbers to like the WiiU.

super600

If a $600 PS3 could do better, i seriously doubt they will. These are monumentally bad numbers.

There are many factors that can influence how a console is received at launch. One of the factors is price. If the price of a console is way tohigh when it is released no one will buy it. The WiiU's price was kinda high and no one barely bought it at launch and is currently buying it.The economy is another one. The US economy even though it's recoverying it's recovering really slow and the US could potentially be in another recession in a year or so because of multiple factors.Also the software support and the movement of the casual market away from console. This will affect all big three's sales numbers next gen.

HIgh? It was 300-350, 360 was 300-400 and PS3 was 500-600. The 360 250gb/Kinect bundle is more expensive than the WiiU.
#335 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26735 posts) -

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="fernandmondego_"] Everything is doing just fine 'cept for the WiiU and Vita, the economy has nothing to do with it. fernandmondego_
But it's because prices are lower for certain items, something Nintendo can't afford with Wii U. Who's going to spend $400+ on something this day in age?

The prices are pretty close and they were actually higher before and still never did the PS3 and 360 ever put up such bad numbers. Not in 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13...

That's because things were better back then.

Sony still had quite a bit more fans that were willing to buy their console at that high of a price compared to how many Nintendo had after N64 and GameCube.

Not to mention Nintendo's a freaking controversial mess, so do you expect anyone that wants them to do well outside of a few hopefuls (myself included)? Everyone else wants to see them multiplatform, but as I said before, it won't help them at all. It would end up backfiring like every other time Nintendo tried to fix complaints, thus making them in a just as bad, if not worse than what SEGA is dealing with.

#336 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] But it's because prices are lower for certain items, something Nintendo can't afford with Wii U. Who's going to spend $400+ on something this day in age?nintendoboy16

The prices are pretty close and they were actually higher before and still never did the PS3 and 360 ever put up such bad numbers. Not in 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13...

That's because things were better back then.

Sony still had quite a bit more fans that were willing to buy their console at that high of a price compared to how many Nintendo had after N64 and GameCube.

Not to mention Nintendo's a freaking controversial mess, so do you expect anyone that wants them to do well outside of a few hopefuls (myself included)? Everyone else wants to see them multiplatform, but as I said before, it won't help them at all. It would end up backfiring like every other time Nintendo tried to fix complaints.

Better? Really? When unemployment was over 10%? Still not buying it hurting them to go 3rd party and they didn't try to fix any complaints. No third party, weak hardware...
#337 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26735 posts) -

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"] The prices are pretty close and they were actually higher before and still never did the PS3 and 360 ever put up such bad numbers. Not in 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13...fernandmondego_

That's because things were better back then.

Sony still had quite a bit more fans that were willing to buy their console at that high of a price compared to how many Nintendo had after N64 and GameCube.

Not to mention Nintendo's a freaking controversial mess, so do you expect anyone that wants them to do well outside of a few hopefuls (myself included)? Everyone else wants to see them multiplatform, but as I said before, it won't help them at all. It would end up backfiring like every other time Nintendo tried to fix complaints.

Better? Really? When unemployment was over 10%? Still not buying it hurting them to go 3rd party and they didn't try to fix any complaints. No third party, weak hardware...

Numerous reports, despite showing lower unemployment rate pretty much show a worse economy.

Yet again, WHEN Nintendo gets third party support, sparks end up flying in a bad way (don't need to point out any examples anymore).

How can it be "hurting them to go third party" when their past struggles (N64 and GameCube) never made them lose as much money as SEGA with theirs (SEGA CD, 32X, Saturn, Dreamcast)? Even their Wii sales prevent that.

#338 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] That's because things were better back then.

Sony still had quite a bit more fans that were willing to buy their console at that high of a price compared to how many Nintendo had after N64 and GameCube.

Not to mention Nintendo's a freaking controversial mess, so do you expect anyone that wants them to do well outside of a few hopefuls (myself included)? Everyone else wants to see them multiplatform, but as I said before, it won't help them at all. It would end up backfiring like every other time Nintendo tried to fix complaints.

nintendoboy16

Better? Really? When unemployment was over 10%? Still not buying it hurting them to go 3rd party and they didn't try to fix any complaints. No third party, weak hardware...

Numerous reports, despite showing lower unemployment rate pretty much show a worse economy.

Yet again, WHEN Nintendo gets third party support, sparks end up flying in a bad way (don't need to point out any examples anymore).

How can it be "hurting them to go third party" when their past struggles (N64 and GameCube) never made them lose as much money as SEGA with theirs (SEGA CD, 32X, Saturn, Dreamcast)? Even their Wii sales prevent that.

Yeah, no. The economy is not as bad as it used to be. Comparing them to SEGA is pointless. Look how much Activision makes by selling to all gamers.
#339 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26735 posts) -

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]Better? Really? When unemployment was over 10%? Still not buying it hurting them to go 3rd party and they didn't try to fix any complaints. No third party, weak hardware...fernandmondego_

Numerous reports, despite showing lower unemployment rate pretty much show a worse economy.

Yet again, WHEN Nintendo gets third party support, sparks end up flying in a bad way (don't need to point out any examples anymore).

How can it be "hurting them to go third party" when their past struggles (N64 and GameCube) never made them lose as much money as SEGA with theirs (SEGA CD, 32X, Saturn, Dreamcast)? Even their Wii sales prevent that.

Yeah, no. The economy is not as bad as it used to be. Comparing them to SEGA is pointless. Look how much Activision makes by selling to all gamers.

How is it pointless? SEGA was a former first party that had quite a bit of respect, even in it's final days. But when they went third party, lost most of it (won't repeat the reasons why) to the point of their own fans hating them. What makes you think it won't happen to Ninty?

Just because Activision makes a lot of money being multiplat, doesn't mean Nintendo will. Activision's games have an appeal across the board, Nintendo does not and never will.

#340 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Numerous reports, despite showing lower unemployment rate pretty much show a worse economy.

Yet again, WHEN Nintendo gets third party support, sparks end up flying in a bad way (don't need to point out any examples anymore).

How can it be "hurting them to go third party" when their past struggles (N64 and GameCube) never made them lose as much money as SEGA with theirs (SEGA CD, 32X, Saturn, Dreamcast)? Even their Wii sales prevent that.

nintendoboy16

Yeah, no. The economy is not as bad as it used to be. Comparing them to SEGA is pointless. Look how much Activision makes by selling to all gamers.

How is it pointless? SEGA was a former first party that had quite a bit of respect, even in it's final days. But when they went third party, lost most of it (won't repeat the reasons why) to the point of their own fans hating them. What makes you think it won't happen to Ninty?

Just because Activision makes a lot of money being multiplat, doesn't mean Nintendo will. Activision's games have an appeal across the board, Nintendo does not and never will.

2 different companies in different situations.  Nintendo games do have appeal across the board.

#341 Posted by COVAtheNOVA (185 posts) -

25th month in a row the XBOX360 has owned NA. Don't see that trend stopping any time soon and it will probably pass the Wii in NA sales by this summer. LMAO at the Wii U. I'm pretty sure Nintendo has yet to sell out of their initial 3.5 million unit launch. Wondering now if they will even meet that 4 million number by end of March. Doubtful if these sales continue.

#342 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26735 posts) -

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]Yeah, no. The economy is not as bad as it used to be. Comparing them to SEGA is pointless. Look how much Activision makes by selling to all gamers.fernandmondego_

How is it pointless? SEGA was a former first party that had quite a bit of respect, even in it's final days. But when they went third party, lost most of it (won't repeat the reasons why) to the point of their own fans hating them. What makes you think it won't happen to Ninty?

Just because Activision makes a lot of money being multiplat, doesn't mean Nintendo will. Activision's games have an appeal across the board, Nintendo does not and never will.

2 different companies in different situations.  Nintendo games do have appeal across the board.

Different companies? Obviously. Different situations? Sure. High chance of similar reputation? Oh yeah.

No, Nintendo games don't have that broad of an appeal. The audiences on a PlayStation/XBOX aren't even the freaking same. Expect less sales out of their games, be it their (current) triforce (Mario/Zelda/Pokemon), or other IP (Metroid/F-Zero/Donkey Kong/Kirby).

#343 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]How is it pointless? SEGA was a former first party that had quite a bit of respect, even in it's final days. But when they went third party, lost most of it (won't repeat the reasons why) to the point of their own fans hating them. What makes you think it won't happen to Ninty?

Just because Activision makes a lot of money being multiplat, doesn't mean Nintendo will. Activision's games have an appeal across the board, Nintendo does not and never will.

nintendoboy16

2 different companies in different situations.  Nintendo games do have appeal across the board.

Different companies? Obviously. Different situations? Sure. High chance of similar reputation? Oh yeah.

No, Nintendo games don't have that broad of an appeal. The audiences on a PlayStation/XBOX aren't even the freaking same. Expect less sales out of their games, be it their (current) triforce (Mario/Zelda/Pokemon), or other IP (Metroid/F-Zero/Donkey Kong/Kirby).

I'm just going to agree to disagree.
#344 Posted by rjdofu (9170 posts) -
[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] :lol: is he really? that explains a lot.

*shrug* Hard to bash Sweden. Most of the Swedes I've met are a chilled decent bunch (except one who was an absolute nutcase) and the country is well run.

And yet instead of modding him for being a racist prick you try and tell us it i hard to bash his country. Good job.

American is not a race, son.
#345 Posted by Advid-Gamer (4641 posts) -
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]How is it pointless? SEGA was a former first party that had quite a bit of respect, even in it's final days. But when they went third party, lost most of it (won't repeat the reasons why) to the point of their own fans hating them. What makes you think it won't happen to Ninty?

Just because Activision makes a lot of money being multiplat, doesn't mean Nintendo will. Activision's games have an appeal across the board, Nintendo does not and never will.

2 different companies in different situations.  Nintendo games do have appeal across the board.

Different companies? Obviously. Different situations? Sure. High chance of similar reputation? Oh yeah.

No, Nintendo games don't have that broad of an appeal. The audiences on a PlayStation/XBOX aren't even the freaking same. Expect less sales out of their games, be it their (current) triforce (Mario/Zelda/Pokemon), or other IP (Metroid/F-Zero/Donkey Kong/Kirby).

My god you are still trying to defend this garbage. Seriously go outside,you constant boot licking of nintendo is pathetic.
#346 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26735 posts) -
[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"] 2 different companies in different situations.  Nintendo games do have appeal across the board.

Different companies? Obviously. Different situations? Sure. High chance of similar reputation? Oh yeah.

No, Nintendo games don't have that broad of an appeal. The audiences on a PlayStation/XBOX aren't even the freaking same. Expect less sales out of their games, be it their (current) triforce (Mario/Zelda/Pokemon), or other IP (Metroid/F-Zero/Donkey Kong/Kirby).

My god you are still trying to defend this garbage. Seriously go outside,you constant boot licking of nintendo is pathetic.

Dude, I wasn't even defending the Wii U. I was just saying that it's not a good idea to see them end up like their former rivals at SEGA because it ends up getting worse.
#347 Posted by timbers_WSU (5753 posts) -
[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] *shrug* Hard to bash Sweden. Most of the Swedes I've met are a chilled decent bunch (except one who was an absolute nutcase) and the country is well run.

And yet instead of modding him for being a racist prick you try and tell us it i hard to bash his country. Good job.

American is not a race, son.

No $hit. I guess you are the genius of the family to figure that one out.
#348 Posted by rjdofu (9170 posts) -
[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] And yet instead of modding him for being a racist prick you try and tell us it i hard to bash his country. Good job.

American is not a race, son.

No $hit. I guess you are the genius of the family to figure that one out.

Nah, seems like you're the dumbass who accuse themajormayor as a racist, just trying to educate you son.
#349 Posted by Giancar (19067 posts) -
Everybody likes to blame the economy. (might take a look for inflation rates, unemployment rates, dow jones index, GDP, growth, GDP per capita, unemployment rates) USA is not a disaster form an economic POV. (though there is also lots of debt, and there always has been that) Please, the PS3 price was 30% higher. And the 360 was $50 bucks more. $350 is a great pricepoint, in fact 360 and PS3 have sold extremely good for that price. Cell phones sell great for that price, tablets, technology. There are other factors that are really hurting Nintendo, and if the competition doesn´t prepare for those will suffer too. Do not expect Nintendo to repeat Wii numbers, you will be left in disappointment. Do not expect the WiiU to be the home of 3rd party games. Do not expect the WiiU to have the most acclaimed titles in the industry. But also, Do not expect the WiiU to sell this bad all year, will do way better. Do not expect WiiU to be the end of Nintendo. Do not expect WiiU to lack gaming gems. Their 1st party devs are among the best in the industry.
#350 Posted by mems_1224 (47155 posts) -
[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="rjdofu"] American is not a race, son.

No $hit. I guess you are the genius of the family to figure that one out.

Nah, seems like you're the dumbass who accuse themajormayor as a racist, just trying to educate you son.

I think he was talking about me :lol: