NPD January 2013 - Holy f*cking sh*t Wii U at 57K lol - Vita around 35K

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#201 Posted by BPoole96 (22817 posts) -

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

Nintendo's way out is to deliver high quality 1st party games and target the new generation of kids with titles lthat appeal both Nintendo fans and kids (Wonderful 101 = saturday morning cartoon, Lego GTA)

Bring out the Wii megaton sellers, there is bound to be some spillover from the Wii era. NSMB U and Nintendo Land sales have absolutely insane attach rates.

Initiate collaborations with 3rd parties, risky as they may be. Reach out to indie devs to fill out eShop.

They are doing all of the above! What bothers me is that the system should have been weaker and thus cheaper.

SuperFlakeman

Kids aren't the same demographic as they used to be. You know what all the 10-11 year olds are playing? Online FPS games on XBL and PSN, Pokemon, and iPad/iPhone games. Kids don't want a console that is nothing but Mario and Zelda ad nauseum, and neither do I. It is physically impossible for Nintendo's first party to keep up with all the third party games that release on PC/PS4/720 that the Wii U gets shafted on. The best the Wii U can be is a nice supplementary system for a handful of Nintendo games for the entire gen, just like the Wii was last gen.

There is too much generalization and down-playing of Nintendo games in your post. 

You dismiss Galaxy and Skyward Sword as "more Mario / Zelda", Really? 90%+ metascores and more "new IP" in them than actual new IPs. Yada Yada

Okay, lets say SMG3 sells 20m copies, and Zelda U sells 15m. What are the other ~30 million people doing with the system that would make Nintendo actual competition to the PS4/720 that will likely have install bases of 50m within 5 years of their release? The problem with Nintendo games is that they are all for the exact same demographic. If you like Mario, good chances are you also like DK, Metroid, Pikmin, etc. It's not like Sony's first party that caters to all sorts of different demographics as well as having 3rd parties fill in a massive void for people with certain tastes. With Nintedo's consoles, people who buy them are there for Mario, Zelda, and Monster Hunter. People that aren't into that have little reason to own the console.

Like I said, The Wii U will be just like the Wii, a supplementary system. How many people that post on this board owned only a Wii for the entirety of last gen? Less than 5? Whereas there were several people who owned only a 360, PC, or PS3 for the majority of last gen until other platforms became very cheap.

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#202 Posted by SuperFlakeman (7411 posts) -

I wouldn't be surprised if the 3DS didn't do so hot either.fernandmondego_

You mean the handheld outpacing DS as of December 31 2012, launch aligned. Having shipped 30 million units in 1 year 10 months.

Hardware is as of August 2012 being sold at a profit.

Animal Crossing and Pokemon X / Y are dropping later this year. Those titles will drive hw sales and MK7/3DLand/NSMB2 will continue to beast, selling at steady rates over a long period of time. These games are now in the 5-8 million sold range, and counting.

3DS monopolized the dedicated handheld market by taking out Sony were it matters: Japan (For those unaware, Japan = only place that supports handhelds with software)

The system has a healthy upcoming library consisting of a steady stream of great-amazing games, both retail and eshop.

3DS is nothing but a solidified success. Vita... ouch.

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#203 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (9765 posts) -

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Ni no Kuni was at #11 on the software chart.

finalstar2007

Impressive considering it came out at the end of January. Nice to see it doing well.

It was also the second best selling game in PSN North America ( outsold a lot of new games on PSN like DS3 and so on ).. it was the best selling game on the EU PSN and best selling game in EU Europe :)

That's awesome. I hated the demo but the full game is incredible. It's just a bit too easy.
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#204 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]I wouldn't be surprised if the 3DS didn't do so hot either.SuperFlakeman

You mean the handheld outpacing DS as of December 31 2012, launch aligned. Having shipped 30 million units in 1 year 10 months.

Hardware is as of August 2012 being sold at a profit.

Animal Crossing and Pokemon X / Y are dropping later this year. Those titles will drive hw sales and MK7/3DLand/NSMB2 will continue to beast, selling at steady rates over a long period of time. These games are now in the 5-8 million sold range, and counting.

3DS monopolized the dedicated handheld market by taking out Sony were it matters: Japan (For those unaware, Japan = only place that supports handhelds with software)

The system has a healthy upcoming library consisting of a steady stream of great-amazing games, both retail and eshop.

3DS is nothing but a solidified success. Vita... ouch.

It hasn't been doing so hot in the US.
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#205 Posted by SuperFlakeman (7411 posts) -

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"] Kids aren't the same demographic as they used to be. You know what all the 10-11 year olds are playing? Online FPS games on XBL and PSN, Pokemon, and iPad/iPhone games. Kids don't want a console that is nothing but Mario and Zelda ad nauseum, and neither do I. It is physically impossible for Nintendo's first party to keep up with all the third party games that release on PC/PS4/720 that the Wii U gets shafted on. The best the Wii U can be is a nice supplementary system for a handful of Nintendo games for the entire gen, just like the Wii was last gen.BPoole96

There is too much generalization and down-playing of Nintendo games in your post. 

You dismiss Galaxy and Skyward Sword as "more Mario / Zelda", Really? 90%+ metascores and more "new IP" in them than actual new IPs. Yada Yada

Okay, lets say SMG3 sells 20m copies, and Zelda U sells 15m. What are the other ~30 million people doing with the system that would make Nintendo actual competition to the PS4/720 that will likely have install bases of 50m within 5 years of their release? The problem with Nintendo games is that they are all for the exact same demographic. If you like Mario, good chances are you also like DK, Metroid, Pikmin, etc. It's not like Sony's first party that caters to all sorts of different demographics as well as having 3rd parties fill in a massive void for people with certain tastes. With Nintedo's consoles, people who buy them are there for Mario, Zelda, and Monster Hunter. People that aren't into that have little reason to own the console.

Like I said, The Wii U will be just like the Wii, a supplementary system. How many people that post on this board owned only a Wii for the entirety of last gen? Less than 5? Whereas there were several people who owned only a 360, PC, or PS3 for the majority of last gen until other platforms became very cheap.

Mostly true.

Mario / Zelda are the games everyone gather around, and split up from there. Some buy, Pikmin, others get Kirby. The person who owns Kirby doesn't want Pikmin and vice versa, but both own Zelda.

Thing is people buy Playstation consoles for the 3rd party games, they have always been the main system sellers. GTA, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear. Nintendo doesn't want that. They want Mario to do 30 millionz, AND GTA doing 15m. It's not possible to achieve that for two reasons: competition and the high risk involved making a fully-featured system means 1 flop and you're out as a small company (look at Sony with PS3). Basically Nintendo is the indie dev trying to fight the big bullies with clever ideas, they can't compete head to head applying brute force.

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#206 Posted by Mario1331 (8902 posts) -

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]I wouldn't be surprised if the 3DS didn't do so hot either.fernandmondego_

You mean the handheld outpacing DS as of December 31 2012, launch aligned. Having shipped 30 million units in 1 year 10 months.

Hardware is as of August 2012 being sold at a profit.

Animal Crossing and Pokemon X / Y are dropping later this year. Those titles will drive hw sales and MK7/3DLand/NSMB2 will continue to beast, selling at steady rates over a long period of time. These games are now in the 5-8 million sold range, and counting.

3DS monopolized the dedicated handheld market by taking out Sony were it matters: Japan (For those unaware, Japan = only place that supports handhelds with software)

The system has a healthy upcoming library consisting of a steady stream of great-amazing games, both retail and eshop.

3DS is nothing but a solidified success. Vita... ouch.

It hasn't been doing so hot in the US.

its been doing great, last gen handhelds use to outsell consles and the 3ds been neck and neck with consoles for the longest time now

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#207 Posted by SuperFlakeman (7411 posts) -

It hasn't been doing so hot in the US.fernandmondego_

Didn't 3DS sell 1.2 million units in December going in with Paper Mario: Sticker Star as the sole November/December gun?

:lol: 

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#208 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
Poor US, the decline of the country is imminent. Being the only country where the 360 sells is a pretty bad sign, it shows people are making poor decisions and they are the ones who will elect their own government. I think someone should invade them to save them from themselves..
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#209 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"] It hasn't been doing so hot in the US.SuperFlakeman

Didn't 3DS sell 1.2 million units in December going in with Paper Mario: Sticker Star as the sole November/December gun?

:lol: 

I believe so, but I'm talking about compared to the DS. 3DS doesn't even outsell the 360 and that did 281K. DS use to sell 400-500k on a regular basis.
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#210 Posted by DJ-Lafleur (35181 posts) -

Yeesh, sales these low better not become a long trend and Nintendo better get their asses in gear. Nintendo better have a plan with future Nintendo Directs and the upcoming E3.

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#211 Posted by Advid-Gamer (4753 posts) -
Poor US, the decline of the country is imminent. Being the only country where the 360 sells is a pretty bad sign, it shows people are making poor decisions and they are the ones who will elect their own government. I think someone should invade them to save them from themselves..kuraimen
I agree, you should start it. Start with my house with you personally on the charge, and see where that gets you, my guess is a 2 ft hole in my back yard.
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#212 Posted by ninjapirate2000 (3347 posts) -

USA! USA! USA! USA!

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#213 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Poor US, the decline of the country is imminent. Being the only country where the 360 sells is a pretty bad sign, it shows people are making poor decisions and they are the ones who will elect their own government. I think someone should invade them to save them from themselves..Advid-Gamer
I agree, you should start it. Start with my house with you personally on the charge, and see where that gets you, my guess is a 2 ft hole in my back yard.

The fact that not all americans have guns yet is an advantage for the invaders. Sorry but you're doomed!
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#214 Posted by super600 (32166 posts) -

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Poor US, the decline of the country is imminent. Being the only country where the 360 sells is a pretty bad sign, it shows people are making poor decisions and they are the ones who will elect their own government. I think someone should invade them to save them from themselves..kuraimen
I agree, you should start it. Start with my house with you personally on the charge, and see where that gets you, my guess is a 2 ft hole in my back yard.

The fact that not all americans have guns yet is an advantage for the invaders. Sorry but you're doomed!

The americans could nuke your country if they wanted to.

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#215 Posted by LostProphetFLCL (18526 posts) -

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] I agree, you should start it. Start with my house with you personally on the charge, and see where that gets you, my guess is a 2 ft hole in my back yard.super600

The fact that not all americans have guns yet is an advantage for the invaders. Sorry but you're doomed!

The americans couldnuke your country if they wanted to.

Checkmate motha *****! :P

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#216 Posted by mariokart64fan (20199 posts) -

where does it say wiiu at 55k ,  i dont see it ,  now your thread sinks until there is proof 

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#217 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -

where does it say wiiu at 55k ,  i dont see it ,  now your thread sinks until there is proof 

mariokart64fan

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#218 Posted by super600 (32166 posts) -

where does it say wiiu at 55k ,  i dont see it ,  now your thread sinks until there is proof 

mariokart64fan

:lol:

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#219 Posted by whiskeystrike (12170 posts) -

where does it say wiiu at 55k ,  i dont see it ,  now your thread sinks until there is proof 

mariokart64fan

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Do the math

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#220 Posted by 720OwnsPS4 (132 posts) -

where does it say wiiu at 55k ,  i dont see it ,  now your thread sinks until there is proof 

mariokart64fan
Cut your losses and move on. Wii U is a big ass failure.
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#221 Posted by mariokart64fan (20199 posts) -

when the games come ,   the sales will , right now there are no games for the majority ,  

once mariokart zelda mario3d etc start hitting its going to be a 360 degree turn around oh and ps4 720 will pull the same numbers wiiu is doing now why because they will be more expensive and will not have a library built   and with recent rumors they may make that one mistake and vita only sold 30 k  and has been out longer , supposed to have its killer aps ,, oh nintendo still sold alot of 3dses and some dses and wiis  numbers are not looking so bad combined haha

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#222 Posted by AM-Gamer (8116 posts) -

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Actually I find it rather shocking they still increase year to year sales. A 7+ year old console and probably the next console being launched this year but yet they are still able to increase.spiderluck

I guess MS is really good at marketing and making everyone believe a 7 year console is still relevant. Good for them. Wonder if this will help MS get out of 3rd place.

Haha Sony getting spanked again...44% of console sales and according to Gaf that includes Wii U ...lol ps3 numbers must suck ..but hey keep combining them with ps2 numbers and you almost avoid complete embarassment and fall into that grey zone of pathetic shamefullness

Good thing they dont make PS2s anymore , and the PS3 continues to spank the 360 WW as usual.  Back to last place for MS yet again. 

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#223 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -

when the games come ,   the sales will , right now there are no games for the majority ,  

once mariokart zelda mario3d etc start hitting its going to be a 360 degree turn around oh and ps4 720 will pull the same numbers wiiu is doing now why because they will be more expensive and will not have a library built   and with recent rumors they may make that one mistake and vita only sold 30 k  and has been out longer , supposed to have its killer aps ,, oh nintendo still sold alot of 3dses and some dses and wiis  numbers are not looking so bad combined haha

mariokart64fan
LOL That is hilarious.
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#224 Posted by 720OwnsPS4 (132 posts) -

when the games come ,   the sales will , right now there are no games for the majority ,  

once mariokart zelda mario3d etc start hitting its going to be a 360 degree turn around oh and ps4 720 will pull the same numbers wiiu is doing now why because they will be more expensive and will not have a library built   and with recent rumors they may make that one mistake

mariokart64fan
There is no "etc". Whatever Mario and Zelda sells is all Wii U will sell.
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#225 Posted by bleehum (5321 posts) -

when the games come ,   the sales will , right now there are no games for the majority ,  

once mariokart zelda mario3d etc start hitting its going to be a 360 degree turn around oh and ps4 720 will pull the same numbers wiiu is doing now why because they will be more expensive and will not have a library built   and with recent rumors they may make that one mistake and vita only sold 30 k  and has been out longer , supposed to have its killer aps ,, oh nintendo still sold alot of 3dses and some dses and wiis  numbers are not looking so bad combined haha

mariokart64fan
The English language is in the corner crying.
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#226 Posted by whiskeystrike (12170 posts) -

heh, this thread has now been mariokart64fan'd

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#227 Posted by Giancar (19155 posts) -

when the games come ,   the sales will , right now there are no games for the majority ,  

once mariokart zelda mario3d etc start hitting its going to be a 360 degree turn around oh and ps4 720 will pull the same numbers wiiu is doing now why because they will be more expensive and will not have a library built   and with recent rumors they may make that one mistake and vita only sold 30 k  and has been out longer , supposed to have its killer aps ,, oh nintendo still sold alot of 3dses and some dses and wiis  numbers are not looking so bad combined haha

mariokart64fan
> There is already a heavy hitter for the WiiU: NSMBU. > There is a thing called value. People don't buy things based only for the price. > PS4 and 720 will have a similar perfomance. 3d parties are already working for both. There will be a pretty big library for those. > :|
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#228 Posted by cloudff7tm (3975 posts) -

I think the Wii U will be fine. These sales are awful, but things will get better soon. Even if it does end up doing poorly, Nintendo isn't going to drop it and I know I will end up enjoying the console either way, so I'm not worried.

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#229 Posted by nintendoboy16 (31994 posts) -

Holy sh*t thats awful.

Nintendo gonna have to speed up production of it's games and get a price cut out there asap

Shinobishyguy

Speed up production of games and... lose their quality? Bad games are among the last things Wii U needs.

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#230 Posted by Newhopes (4748 posts) -

Vita 7k a week no wonder shops are starting to pull it.

 

WII U not too concerned yet once the frist party games start rolling out it should do fine.

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#231 Posted by Midnightshade29 (5918 posts) -
[QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

Xbox 360> competition (as usual) :cool:

spiderluck

North America loves last place consoles.

No they don't ...they hate the ps3

No we don't just the idoits, ghetto/trailer park trash, frat boys, parents of kids who think the kids will like kinect, and the under-educated masses .... the walmart shoping mainstream nubs who will believe anything they see on tv as gospel. Look how much money M$ spends on advertising, thats why they have US in the bag...Many Americans are brainwashed by tv and the media. Anyone I know with a brain and can think for themselves has a PS3 and usually a gaming compatible pc too.
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#232 Posted by whiskeystrike (12170 posts) -
[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

North America loves last place consoles.

Midnightshade29
No they don't ...they hate the ps3

No we don't just the idoits, ghetto/trailer park trash, frat boys, parents of kids who think the kids will like kinect, and the under-educated masses .... the walmart shoping mainstream nubs who will believe anything they see on tv as gospel. Look how much money M$ spends on advertising, thats why they have US in the bag...Many Americans are brainwashed by tv and the media. Anyone I know with a brain and can think for themselves has a PS3 and usually a gaming compatible pc too.

Yes because without ads, people would just be naturally drawn to the PS3.
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#233 Posted by jessejay420 (4091 posts) -

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

North America loves last place consoles.

Shewgenja

..so why isn't the PS3 dominating.. :lol:

 

Please, it's the same country that had this guy run it for eight years..

lol

You've revoked any right you have to claim you have taste or discernment.

so console sales depend on a president? now i have heard it all :lol:
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#234 Posted by jessejay420 (4091 posts) -
[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

North America loves last place consoles.

Midnightshade29
No they don't ...they hate the ps3

No we don't just the idoits, ghetto/trailer park trash, frat boys, parents of kids who think the kids will like kinect, and the under-educated masses .... the walmart shoping mainstream nubs who will believe anything they see on tv as gospel. Look how much money M$ spends on advertising, thats why they have US in the bag...Many Americans are brainwashed by tv and the media. Anyone I know with a brain and can think for themselves has a PS3 and usually a gaming compatible pc too.

damage control :lol:
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#235 Posted by 15strong (2806 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"] ..so why isn't the PS3 dominating.. :lol: jessejay420

 

Please, it's the same country that had this guy run it for eight years..

 

You've revoked any right you have to claim you have taste or discernment.

so console sales depend on a president? now i have heard it all :lol:

I'm not quite sure you understood.

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#236 Posted by Kingpin0114 (2607 posts) -

when the games come ,   the sales will , right now there are no games for the majority ,  

once mariokart zelda mario3d etc start hitting its going to be a 360 degree turn around oh and ps4 720 will pull the same numbers wiiu is doing now why because they will be more expensive and will not have a library built   and with recent rumors they may make that one mistake and vita only sold 30 k  and has been out longer , supposed to have its killer aps ,, oh nintendo still sold alot of 3dses and some dses and wiis  numbers are not looking so bad combined haha

mariokart64fan

 

More tears please

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#237 Posted by thedork_knight (1656 posts) -
[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

North America loves last place consoles.

Midnightshade29
No they don't ...they hate the ps3

No we don't just the idoits, ghetto/trailer park trash, frat boys, parents of kids who think the kids will like kinect, and the under-educated masses .... the walmart shoping mainstream nubs who will believe anything they see on tv as gospel. Look how much money M$ spends on advertising, thats why they have US in the bag...Many Americans are brainwashed by tv and the media. Anyone I know with a brain and can think for themselves has a PS3 and usually a gaming compatible pc too.

wow that is so stupid!!! care to explain how come the ps1/2 were so successful then? adverts where everywhere for both of them.
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#238 Posted by Kingpin0114 (2607 posts) -

[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

where does it say wiiu at 55k ,  i dont see it ,  now your thread sinks until there is proof 

fernandmondego_

nile-river.jpg

 

:lol:

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#239 Posted by getyeryayasout (10644 posts) -
Not great numbers, and if it were any company other than Nintendo I might be ready to throw in the towel. Fact of the matter is that Nintendo is responsible for more mania causing franchises than any company in the history of video games. Their fortunes could turn on a dime and I won't be writing them off just yet.
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#240 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -
Not great numbers, and if it were any company other than Nintendo I might be ready to throw in the towel. Fact of the matter is that Nintendo is responsible for more mania causing franchises than any company in the history of video games. Their fortunes could turn on a dime and I won't be writing them off just yet.getyeryayasout
Not really, Nintendo franchises really are not the heavy hitters they used to be.
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#241 Posted by jessejay420 (4091 posts) -

[QUOTE="jessejay420"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

 

Please, it's the same country that had this guy run it for eight years..

 

You've revoked any right you have to claim you have taste or discernment.

15strong

so console sales depend on a president? now i have heard it all :lol:

I'm not quite sure you understood.

im not quite sure he has a point :?
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#242 Posted by getyeryayasout (10644 posts) -
[QUOTE="getyeryayasout"]Not great numbers, and if it were any company other than Nintendo I might be ready to throw in the towel. Fact of the matter is that Nintendo is responsible for more mania causing franchises than any company in the history of video games. Their fortunes could turn on a dime and I won't be writing them off just yet.fernandmondego_
Not really, Nintendo franchises really are not the heavy hitters they used to be.

Big hitters are still big hitters. I don't think WiiU will do Wii numbers, but I don't expect it to tank either. Besides, who knows when they might pull the next Wii Sports or Pokemon out of their asses. I just think it unwise to bet against the company that defined home video games as we know them.
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#243 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -
[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="getyeryayasout"]Not great numbers, and if it were any company other than Nintendo I might be ready to throw in the towel. Fact of the matter is that Nintendo is responsible for more mania causing franchises than any company in the history of video games. Their fortunes could turn on a dime and I won't be writing them off just yet.getyeryayasout
Not really, Nintendo franchises really are not the heavy hitters they used to be.

Big hitters are still big hitters. I don't think WiiU will do Wii numbers, but I don't expect it to tank either. Besides, who knows when they might pull the next Wii Sports or Pokemon out of their asses. I just think it unwise to bet against the company that defined home video games as we know them.

It's the same games that did nothing for the GC.
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#244 Posted by DJ-Lafleur (35181 posts) -

I think the Wii U will be fine. These sales are awful, but things will get better soon. Even if it does end up doing poorly, Nintendo isn't going to drop it and I know I will end up enjoying the console either way, so I'm not worried.

cloudff7tm

Kind of what I'm feeling. I think the Wii U will end up being another Gamecube; probably perform worse in sales and likely software compared to PS4 and Xbox720 due to lack of third party, but Nintendo will manage in the end, and the Wii U will muster up a worthwhile amount of gems.

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#245 Posted by nintendoboy16 (31994 posts) -

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

I think the Wii U will be fine. These sales are awful, but things will get better soon. Even if it does end up doing poorly, Nintendo isn't going to drop it and I know I will end up enjoying the console either way, so I'm not worried.

DJ-Lafleur

Kind of what I'm feeling. I think the Wii U will end up being another Gamecube; probably perform worse in sales and likely software compared to PS4 and Xbox720 due to lack of third party, but Nintendo will manage in the end, and the Wii U will muster up a worthwhile amount of gems.

Wii U shouldn't be another GameCube. That's the last thing Nintendo needs.

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#246 Posted by Mario1331 (8902 posts) -

[QUOTE="getyeryayasout"]Not great numbers, and if it were any company other than Nintendo I might be ready to throw in the towel. Fact of the matter is that Nintendo is responsible for more mania causing franchises than any company in the history of video games. Their fortunes could turn on a dime and I won't be writing them off just yet.fernandmondego_
Not really, Nintendo franchises really are not the heavy hitters they used to be.

lol what?. MKwii sold 30 million

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#247 Posted by DJ-Lafleur (35181 posts) -

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

I think the Wii U will be fine. These sales are awful, but things will get better soon. Even if it does end up doing poorly, Nintendo isn't going to drop it and I know I will end up enjoying the console either way, so I'm not worried.

nintendoboy16

Kind of what I'm feeling. I think the Wii U will end up being another Gamecube; probably perform worse in sales and likely software compared to PS4 and Xbox720 due to lack of third party, but Nintendo will manage in the end, and the Wii U will muster up a worthwhile amount of gems.

Wii U shouldn't be another GameCube. That's the last thing Nintendo needs.

Is it? Can't say I've checked Nintendo's sales, but I would imagine Nintendo still has a ton of bank and that the 3DS is only adding to it.

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#248 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -

[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="getyeryayasout"]Not great numbers, and if it were any company other than Nintendo I might be ready to throw in the towel. Fact of the matter is that Nintendo is responsible for more mania causing franchises than any company in the history of video games. Their fortunes could turn on a dime and I won't be writing them off just yet.Mario1331

Not really, Nintendo franchises really are not the heavy hitters they used to be.

lol what?. MKwii sold 30 million

Cause of the wheel, which made it a game that the Wii was known for. The Wii is what sold the game. How much did it sell on the GC? About a tenth of that?
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#249 Posted by cloudff7tm (3975 posts) -

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I think the Wii U will be fine. These sales are awful, but things will get better soon. Even if it does end up doing poorly, Nintendo isn't going to drop it and I know I will end up enjoying the console either way, so I'm not worried.

DJ-Lafleur

Kind of what I'm feeling. I think the Wii U will end up being another Gamecube; probably perform worse in sales and likely software compared to PS4 and Xbox720 due to lack of third party, but Nintendo will manage in the end, and the Wii U will muster up a worthwhile amount of gems.

Yeah I agree. I think this way with most consoles tbh. There will be times where things are going bad and everybody starts predicting doom. Said console may end up with lackluster sales and a lesser library then the competion overall, but when its all said and done, there will always be some games that made the purchase worth it. I bet thats how im going to feel about the Vita at the end of the gen too.

Somebodys gotta stay positive. :)

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#250 Posted by nintendoboy16 (31994 posts) -

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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

Kind of what I'm feeling. I think the Wii U will end up being another Gamecube; probably perform worse in sales and likely software compared to PS4 and Xbox720 due to lack of third party, but Nintendo will manage in the end, and the Wii U will muster up a worthwhile amount of gems.

DJ-Lafleur

Wii U shouldn't be another GameCube. That's the last thing Nintendo needs.

Is it? Can't say I've checked Nintendo's sales, but I would imagine Nintendo still has a ton of bank and that the 3DS is only adding to it.

Either way, they still don't need a gen where the handhelds keep them afloat when the console sales are bad. Especially when said consoles are the laughing stock of that generation (something GameCube was, it had it worse than the Dreamcast).