NPD January 2013 - Holy f*cking sh*t Wii U at 57K lol - Vita around 35K

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#151 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22497 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Neon_Noir"]Oh god they really are screwed. This is some of the best news ever. Sheep are such battered housewives. "It will be different this time, I swear."BPoole96
funny how lems and cows touted how 'sales don't matter' while the wii was kicking everyone's ass.

Guessing once(if) nintendo turns this around you guys will go back to moving goalposts

Mmm yummy DC

I ain't even DCing, anyone with eyes can see this thing's dead if nintendo doesn't pick up the pace.
That was just an observation on my part

#152 Posted by immortality20 (7958 posts) -

Hope we see a $300 premimum Wii U by Summer and a decent few games to choose from. Hope DMC stays on selling for a long time.

#153 Posted by Speedzilla (1756 posts) -

The Vita almost did as good as the Wii U :lol:

#154 Posted by spiderluck (2376 posts) -

The way I see it is Ninty has no choice but to drop this thing like a hot potato ....throw a boatload of cash [ which they have ] into something they can release early next year and that cleanly trumps both Orbis and Durango...failing that, stick to handheld for this gen and go all in on next gen

#155 Posted by themyth01 (13924 posts) -

Just for comparison sake, 360 did 270K last year. An 11K increase over last year is pretty good, though expected.

Thefatness16
How is it expected with the next xbox all but certain for launch this year. It seems very surprising that either PS3 or 360 would do any better than last year.
#156 Posted by themyth01 (13924 posts) -
Nintendo's poor performance and Sony's drive to a more manageable architecture seems to point to PS4 dominance ala PS2 era. All seems to be pointing that way. All Sony has to do is not screw up and they got it win for next gen.
#157 Posted by Fizzman (9883 posts) -

Nintendo deserves this for going after the casuals.  Live by the casual, die by the casual.  

#158 Posted by lunar1122 (669 posts) -

considering the amount of times xbox 360's red ring to death, it makes sense they sell the most due to needing replacement.

 

Isnt that just in usa though? ps3 owns outside of usa. 

#159 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (8908 posts) -
Poor sheep. :lol:
#160 Posted by SuperFlakeman (7342 posts) -

Nintendo deserves this for going after the casuals.  Live by the casual, die by the casual.  

Fizzman

What about Gamecube, it sold 22m lifetime.

#161 Posted by whiskeystrike (12068 posts) -
Poor sheep. :lol:Xaero_Gravity
Any kid who manages to squeeze 250 from his parents to play Mario is probably not poor.
#162 Posted by spiderluck (2376 posts) -
considering the amount of times xbox 360's red ring, it makes sense they sell the most. Isnt that just in usa though?lunar1122
How was your voyage back from the stone age man
#163 Posted by darkziosj (166 posts) -

poor vita

#164 Posted by HaloPimp978 (7315 posts) -

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

The Wii U will be fine not worried about the down numbers. Was hoping Ni No Kuni would be in the top 10 its the best game so far this year IMO.

fernandmondego_

We're talking 55k here... 

We are talking blind and delusional here.

I'm delusional? Whatever things will get better for Wii U it takes time to build a gaming library just saying.

#165 Posted by Blake135 (3994 posts) -

I love gaf.

 

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MFDOOM1983

Omfg that was beautiful :lol:

#166 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (8908 posts) -
[QUOTE="Xaero_Gravity"]Poor sheep. :lol:whiskeystrike
Any kid who manages to squeeze 250 from his parents to play Mario is probably not poor.

You know damn well what I mean. You shall suffer the next time we play Mario Kart. :evil:
#167 Posted by whiskeystrike (12068 posts) -
[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"][QUOTE="Xaero_Gravity"]Poor sheep. :lol:Xaero_Gravity
Any kid who manages to squeeze 250 from his parents to play Mario is probably not poor.

You know damn well what I mean. You shall suffer the next time we play Mario Kart. :evil:

> doesn't play for months > still 2nd place bwahahahahahahaha
#168 Posted by BPoole96 (22803 posts) -

Nintendo deserves this for going after the casuals.  Live by the casual, die by the casual.  

Fizzman
Exactly. Casuals have no loyalty and the Wii fad has been over for years now. Even when Ninty launches Mario and Zelda games, how many copies did those games sell? 20m tops? That's all the sales the Wii U will get since there is literally no other reason of owning that console. Wii Sports was Nintendo's driving game last gen, and they don't have anything outside the usual suspects that can bring in numbers anywhere close to what the Wii sold.
#169 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (8908 posts) -
[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"][QUOTE="Xaero_Gravity"][QUOTE="whiskeystrike"] Any kid who manages to squeeze 250 from his parents to play Mario is probably not poor.

You know damn well what I mean. You shall suffer the next time we play Mario Kart. :evil:

> doesn't play for months > still 2nd place bwahahahahahahaha

I only started playing in the PUSH community last week or so. :x
#170 Posted by SuperFlakeman (7342 posts) -

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Nintendo deserves this for going after the casuals.  Live by the casual, die by the casual.  

BPoole96

Exactly. Casuals have no loyalty and the Wii fad has been over for years now. Even when Ninty launches Mario and Zelda games, how many copies did those games sell? 20m tops? That's all the sales the Wii U will get since there is literally no other reason of owning that console. Wii Sports was Nintendo's driving game last gen, and they don't have anything outside the usual suspects that can bring in numbers anywhere close to what the Wii sold.

That's fine but what do you say about Gamecube? In regards to the whole "hah, should have catered to hardcore, not casuals"

They tried that for two gens and it failed.

#171 Posted by SuperFlakeman (7342 posts) -

Nintendo's way out is to deliver high quality 1st party games and target the new generation of kids with titles lthat appeal both Nintendo fans and kids (Wonderful 101 = saturday morning cartoon, Lego GTA)

Bring out the Wii megaton sellers, there is bound to be some spillover from the Wii era. NSMB U and Nintendo Land sales have absolutely insane attach rates.

Initiate collaborations with 3rd parties, risky as they may be. Reach out to indie devs to fill out eShop.

They are doing all of the above! What bothers me is that the system should have been weaker and thus cheaper.

#172 Posted by Fizzman (9883 posts) -

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Nintendo deserves this for going after the casuals.  Live by the casual, die by the casual.  

SuperFlakeman

Exactly. Casuals have no loyalty and the Wii fad has been over for years now. Even when Ninty launches Mario and Zelda games, how many copies did those games sell? 20m tops? That's all the sales the Wii U will get since there is literally no other reason of owning that console. Wii Sports was Nintendo's driving game last gen, and they don't have anything outside the usual suspects that can bring in numbers anywhere close to what the Wii sold.

That's fine but what do you say about Gamecube? In regards to the whole "hah, should have catered to hardcore, not casuals"

They tried that for two gens and it failed.

Should have not been a decade late to the multiplayer party.

Original Xbox had something to differentiate it from the PS2 besides way better graphics.  XBOX LIVE.  

Gamecube had slightly better graphics with no way to watch DVD's.  

 

Back to the sales.

It sold 55k in a FIVE WEEK period.  That is hilariously awful.  It's worse than the Vita, and that system is DOA.  

#173 Posted by SuperFlakeman (7342 posts) -

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"] Exactly. Casuals have no loyalty and the Wii fad has been over for years now. Even when Ninty launches Mario and Zelda games, how many copies did those games sell? 20m tops? That's all the sales the Wii U will get since there is literally no other reason of owning that console. Wii Sports was Nintendo's driving game last gen, and they don't have anything outside the usual suspects that can bring in numbers anywhere close to what the Wii sold.Fizzman

That's fine but what do you say about Gamecube? In regards to the whole "hah, should have catered to hardcore, not casuals"

They tried that for two gens and it failed.

Should have not been a decade late to the multiplayer party.

Original Xbox had something to differentiate it from the PS2 besides way better graphics.  XBOX LIVE.  

Gamecube had slightly better graphics with no way to watch DVD's.  

Some of the stuff here go against Nintendo's principles.

No way they'd pay royalties to a competitor for DVD / blu-ray playability or w/e you call it

Nintendo won't (refuse) to change as a company just to attract the "cool" crowd. Nintendo-like games simply don't sell to the PS3/360 crowd. 

Microsoft tried with Rare, all of Sony's recent mascot games like PSABR / Sly 4 are mega flops. What sells is Uncharted: generic TPS edition. Nintendo would go handheld only before giving in.

#174 Posted by gago-gago (9571 posts) -
NA is the biggest market for gaming right?
#175 Posted by TwistedShade (3165 posts) -

With those Software sales I can see why nobody wants to make or even port games to it. And good god is the Vita freaking pathetic, hopefully Sony says something about it the 20th.

#176 Posted by BPoole96 (22803 posts) -

Nintendo's way out is to deliver high quality 1st party games and target the new generation of kids with titles lthat appeal both Nintendo fans and kids (Wonderful 101 = saturday morning cartoon, Lego GTA)

Bring out the Wii megaton sellers, there is bound to be some spillover from the Wii era. NSMB U and Nintendo Land sales have absolutely insane attach rates.

Initiate collaborations with 3rd parties, risky as they may be. Reach out to indie devs to fill out eShop.

They are doing all of the above! What bothers me is that the system should have been weaker and thus cheaper.

SuperFlakeman
Kids aren't the same demographic as they used to be. You know what all the 10-11 year olds are playing? Online FPS games on XBL and PSN, Pokemon, and iPad/iPhone games. Kids don't want a console that is nothing but Mario and Zelda ad nauseum, and neither do I. It is physically impossible for Nintendo's first party to keep up with all the third party games that release on PC/PS4/720 that the Wii U gets shafted on. The best the Wii U can be is a nice supplementary system for a handful of Nintendo games for the entire gen, just like the Wii was last gen.
#177 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14692 posts) -

I'm honestly of the mind that sony is coming close to overtaking nintendo in the 1st party department.

and that's not good, especially when that's all Nintendo has in the first place.

#178 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22497 posts) -

I'm honestly of the mind that sony is coming close to overtaking nintendo in the 1st party department.

and that's not good, especially when that's all Nintendo has in the first place.

ReadingRainbow4

considering all the stuff they're putting out on the 3ds nah, Nintendo's still far ahead

#180 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14692 posts) -

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I'm honestly of the mind that sony is coming close to overtaking nintendo in the 1st party department.

and that's not good, especially when that's all Nintendo has in the first place.

Shinobishyguy

considering all the stuff they're putting out on the 3ds nah, Nintendo's still far ahead

I'm really not counting the handheld here, but the wiiu.

3ds isn't much better imo, we can only take so many versions of mario.

#181 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -
I'm really curious about the 3DS numbers. The US seems to be moving away from hand helds the way Japan is moving away from consoles.
#182 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22497 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I'm honestly of the mind that sony is coming close to overtaking nintendo in the 1st party department.

and that's not good, especially when that's all Nintendo has in the first place.

ReadingRainbow4

considering all the stuff they're putting out on the 3ds nah, Nintendo's still far ahead

I'm really not counting the handheld here, but the wiiu.

3ds isn't much better imo, we can only take so many versions of mario.

games like 3d land, Luigi's mansion, and Mario and Luigi: Dream team are so fundamentally different that about the only thing they share are the characters

Plus you got stuff like Fire emblem, pokemon XY, Kid Icarus and Animal crossing

#183 Posted by CanYouDiglt (7521 posts) -

Dang the Vita only did mid 30s and that is with 5 weeks counted. Holy cow that is bad, so only around 6k to 7k a week.

#184 Posted by whiskeystrike (12068 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I'm honestly of the mind that sony is coming close to overtaking nintendo in the 1st party department.

and that's not good, especially when that's all Nintendo has in the first place.

ReadingRainbow4

considering all the stuff they're putting out on the 3ds nah, Nintendo's still far ahead

I'm really not counting the handheld here, but the wiiu.

3ds isn't much better imo, we can only take so many versions of mario.

Well at least we get a Mario reskin (Luigi)
#185 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -

Dang the Vita only did mid 30s and that is with 5 weeks counted. Holy cow that is bad, so only around 6k a week.

CanYouDiglt
Sony probably should bury that puppy cause it seems to be dead.
#186 Posted by MFDOOM1983 (8456 posts) -

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I'm honestly of the mind that sony is coming close to overtaking nintendo in the 1st party department.

and that's not good, especially when that's all Nintendo has in the first place.

ReadingRainbow4

considering all the stuff they're putting out on the 3ds nah, Nintendo's still far ahead

I'm really not counting the handheld here, but the wiiu.

3ds isn't much better imo, we can only take so many versions of mario.

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:P

#187 Posted by Advid-Gamer (4642 posts) -

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Nintendo deserves this for going after the casuals.  Live by the casual, die by the casual.  

SuperFlakeman

Exactly. Casuals have no loyalty and the Wii fad has been over for years now. Even when Ninty launches Mario and Zelda games, how many copies did those games sell? 20m tops? That's all the sales the Wii U will get since there is literally no other reason of owning that console. Wii Sports was Nintendo's driving game last gen, and they don't have anything outside the usual suspects that can bring in numbers anywhere close to what the Wii sold.

That's fine but what do you say about Gamecube? In regards to the whole "hah, should have catered to hardcore, not casuals"

They tried that for two gens and it failed.

Dude, you try to hard, nintendo is just not evolving with the times, and now it is biting them in the ass. Rip nintendo King from the nes to the snes,been sliding down hill ever since, and no the wii selling most consoles last gen means nothing. Wii=worst console ever that sold the most unites ever in history , period.
#188 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -

I did a quick google search and I found that Dreamcast supposedly sold a million in about 2 months in the US. This was before it's first Black Friday and Christmas holiday. I believe the WiiU is now somewhere under a million after 3 months. You put 2 and 2 together and you get WiiU possibly selling worse than the Dreamcast and neither had/have EA support. It's starting to look a lot like Dreamcast everywhere you go... Nintendo seriously better turn this around, it isn't looking good. Good Luck Nintendo.

http://news.cnet.com/Dreamcast-sales-hit-1-million-in-North-America/2100-1040_3-233527.html

#189 Posted by Thefatness16 (4672 posts) -

Rumor

DmC < 200K

Bomba

#190 Posted by CanYouDiglt (7521 posts) -
I think it is a little early for the doom and gloom for the Wii U. It does not look like it will be the monster success the Wii was but it is fairly new still with little amount of games. 55k is not terrible compared to other consoles in the same time frame.
#191 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -
I think it is a little early for the doom and gloom for the Wii U. It does not look like it will be the monster success the Wii was but it is fairly new still with little amount of games. 55k is not terrible compared to other consoles in the same time frame. CanYouDiglt
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL wait... wait... are you serious?
#192 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -

Rumor

DmC < 200K

Bomba

Thefatness16
That's not good, that would also mean that Ni No Kuni didn't do so great.
#193 Posted by SuperFlakeman (7342 posts) -

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

Nintendo's way out is to deliver high quality 1st party games and target the new generation of kids with titles lthat appeal both Nintendo fans and kids (Wonderful 101 = saturday morning cartoon, Lego GTA)

Bring out the Wii megaton sellers, there is bound to be some spillover from the Wii era. NSMB U and Nintendo Land sales have absolutely insane attach rates.

Initiate collaborations with 3rd parties, risky as they may be. Reach out to indie devs to fill out eShop.

They are doing all of the above! What bothers me is that the system should have been weaker and thus cheaper.

BPoole96

Kids aren't the same demographic as they used to be. You know what all the 10-11 year olds are playing? Online FPS games on XBL and PSN, Pokemon, and iPad/iPhone games. Kids don't want a console that is nothing but Mario and Zelda ad nauseum, and neither do I. It is physically impossible for Nintendo's first party to keep up with all the third party games that release on PC/PS4/720 that the Wii U gets shafted on. The best the Wii U can be is a nice supplementary system for a handful of Nintendo games for the entire gen, just like the Wii was last gen.

There is too much generalization and down-playing of Nintendo games in your post. 

You dismiss Galaxy and Skyward Sword as "more Mario / Zelda", Really? 90%+ metascores and more "new IP" in them than actual new IPs. Yada Yada

#194 Posted by Fizzman (9883 posts) -

I think it is a little early for the doom and gloom for the Wii U. It does not look like it will be the monster success the Wii was but it is fairly new still with little amount of games. 55k is not terrible compared to other consoles in the same time frame. CanYouDiglt

They are historically bad.  Worse than the Vita and Dreamcast.  

#195 Posted by rjdofu (9171 posts) -

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

Nintendo's way out is to deliver high quality 1st party games and target the new generation of kids with titles lthat appeal both Nintendo fans and kids (Wonderful 101 = saturday morning cartoon, Lego GTA)

Bring out the Wii megaton sellers, there is bound to be some spillover from the Wii era. NSMB U and Nintendo Land sales have absolutely insane attach rates.

Initiate collaborations with 3rd parties, risky as they may be. Reach out to indie devs to fill out eShop.

They are doing all of the above! What bothers me is that the system should have been weaker and thus cheaper.

SuperFlakeman

Kids aren't the same demographic as they used to be. You know what all the 10-11 year olds are playing? Online FPS games on XBL and PSN, Pokemon, and iPad/iPhone games. Kids don't want a console that is nothing but Mario and Zelda ad nauseum, and neither do I. It is physically impossible for Nintendo's first party to keep up with all the third party games that release on PC/PS4/720 that the Wii U gets shafted on. The best the Wii U can be is a nice supplementary system for a handful of Nintendo games for the entire gen, just like the Wii was last gen.

There is too much generalization and down-playing of Nintendo games in your post. 

You dismiss Galaxy and Skyward Sword as "more Mario / Zelda", Really? 90%+ metascores and more "new IP" in them than actual new IPs. Yada Yada

So are they not Mario/Zelda :|?
#196 Posted by CanYouDiglt (7521 posts) -

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]I think it is a little early for the doom and gloom for the Wii U. It does not look like it will be the monster success the Wii was but it is fairly new still with little amount of games. 55k is not terrible compared to other consoles in the same time frame. Fizzman

They are historically bad.  Worse than the Vita and Dreamcast.  

Really the 55k is lower then the dramcast and the Vita is the same time frame? Heck I take it back then they are screwed.
#197 Posted by SuperFlakeman (7342 posts) -

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"] Kids aren't the same demographic as they used to be. You know what all the 10-11 year olds are playing? Online FPS games on XBL and PSN, Pokemon, and iPad/iPhone games. Kids don't want a console that is nothing but Mario and Zelda ad nauseum, and neither do I. It is physically impossible for Nintendo's first party to keep up with all the third party games that release on PC/PS4/720 that the Wii U gets shafted on. The best the Wii U can be is a nice supplementary system for a handful of Nintendo games for the entire gen, just like the Wii was last gen.rjdofu

There is too much generalization and down-playing of Nintendo games in your post. 

You dismiss Galaxy and Skyward Sword as "more Mario / Zelda", Really? 90%+ metascores and more "new IP" in them than actual new IPs. Yada Yada

So are they not Mario/Zelda :|?

My point is Zelda and Mario ad nauseum is not a bad thing ^_^

So long as they maintain quality and freshness between sequels.

#198 Posted by fernandmondego_ (3170 posts) -
I wouldn't be surprised if the 3DS didn't do so hot either.
#199 Posted by finalstar2007 (25341 posts) -

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

Ni no Kuni was at #11 on the software chart.

Xaero_Gravity

Impressive considering it came out at the end of January. Nice to see it doing well.

It was also the second best selling game in PSN North America ( outsold a lot of new games on PSN like DS3 and so on ).. it was the best selling game on the EU PSN and best selling game in EU Europe :)

#200 Posted by rjdofu (9171 posts) -

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

There is too much generalization and down-playing of Nintendo games in your post. 

You dismiss Galaxy and Skyward Sword as "more Mario / Zelda", Really? 90%+ metascores and more "new IP" in them than actual new IPs. Yada Yada

SuperFlakeman

So are they not Mario/Zelda :|?

My point is Zelda and Mario ad nauseum is not a bad thing ^_^

So long as they maintain quality and freshness between sequels.

Oh ok, that I'd agree. To be fair, they're quite different compared to their predecessors, that's arguably better than new IPs with more of the same sh!t. It's good for Nintendo that their exclusives are more of a episodic type of games & not so heavily focused on story, unlike Sony's & MS' games.