Nintendo Q1 15-16: 3DS 53m, Wii U 10m, Profit

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#1  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Market Expectations for Q1 were as followed:

EARNINGS FORECAST: Net loss of ¥125 million is the consensus of four analysts surveyed by Nikkei, compared with a year-earlier loss of ¥9.9 billion.

REVENUE FORECAST: Revenue of ¥89.17 billion is the market forecast, compared with ¥74.7 billion a year earlier.

Nintendo Q1 FY15 Results:

Net Sales: ¥90.233 billion yen

Operating Income: ¥1.149 billion yen

Net Income: ¥8.284 billion yen

Hardware & Software Q1 Results:

3DS HW: 1.01 million

Wii U HW: .47 million

3DS SW: 7.92 million

Wii U SW: 4.55 million

Nintendo FY15 Guidance:

Net Sales: ¥570 billion yen

Operating Income: ¥50 billion yen

Net Income: ¥35 billion yen

Hardware & Software FY15 Guidance:

3DS HW: 7.6 million

Wii U HW: 3.4 million

3DS SW: 56 million

Wii U SW: 23 million

Additional Information Q4 (Software/Hardware Shipments, Digital Sales, Cash & Equivalents):

Splatoon: 1.62 million

Digital Sales: ¥12.0 billion yen

Cash & Equivalents: ¥882.808 billion yen

LTD Figures:

Pokemon XY - 13.99 million

Pokemon ORAS - 10.27 million

Super Smash 3DS - 7.04 million

Super Smash Wii U - 3.83 million

Mario Kart 8 - 5.43 million

Will update thread throughout & Additional Information segment.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/07/...at-to-watch-8/

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2015/150729e.pdf

(via NeoGAF)

Glad to see Smash, Kart, Splatoon, and Pokemon do so well.

Worldwide sales of 3DS are now at 53 million. Worldwide Wii U sales at 10.01 million.

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#2 FoxbatAlpha
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Good! What's a Yen? Lol.

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@FoxbatAlpha: Short for Yennefer.

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@freedomfreak: Oh, you mean that beaoch from Witcher. Tell me that pu$$y wasn't on a pedestal.

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#5 Desmonic  Moderator
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Pokemon pulling crazy numbers as per usual lol

Look at that Mario Kart attach rate! More than 50%!! That's absurd (and amazing!)

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#6 SolidGame_basic
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Still all time lows for Nintendo, no real way of spinning it.

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Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

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@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

They should go 3rd party.

Happy? :D

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#9 zassimick  Moderator
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Great sales for Splatoon, a new IP on a console with a small user base. I'll have to check it sometime soon.

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@Desmonic: lol oddly enough I do feel a little better

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Sweet sales for Splatoon and nice to see the Wii U hit a milestone if an underwhelming one at that.

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Splatoon is killing it! And respectable sales for what many consider a "dead" system.... well done

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Still hasn't outsold the Dreamcast. LMAO.

Just go 3rd party already.

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Nintendo big pimping. Can wait to see how they do when the Holidays come and they actually give the Wii U a price drop.

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@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

Imagine how much more profitable they could be if they did go third party!

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#16  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@samusbeliskner said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

Imagine how much more profitable they could be if they did go third party!

They wouldn't be as profitable, they'd lose out on their hardware revenue stream, as well as licensing revenue streams.

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I really need to get Splatoon, but damn...no budget for games for a while now :-/

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I'm not surprised about 3ds sales it's great,the n3ds is so goddam good and has killer games .thanks Nintendo you've kept me happy for 30 years now

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@charizard1605 said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

Imagine how much more profitable they could be if they did go third party!

They wouldn't be as profitable, they'd lose out on their hardware revenue stream, as well as licensing revenue streams.

"Buh... games would sell more."

Sorry... had to say it.

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Wow Nintendo won't exist come tomorrow. So doomed.

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#21  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@samusbeliskner said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

Imagine how much more profitable they could be if they did go third party!

Because you know Nintendo's business and revenue streams so well. With their own hardware they don't need to pay all the fees associated with putting their games on other consoles. Heck, any money you think they would save would all be sucked dry by the other console companies.

Is Sega sitting on some imaginary pile of money that I'm not aware of? Because they went third party and it's hasn't done a damn thing for them.

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@freedomfreak: Oh, you mean that beaoch from Witcher. Tell me that pu$$y wasn't on a pedestal.

Yennifer is better than Triss! And better looking too!

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@stuff238: dreamcast was losing money not making it.

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#24 GameboyTroy
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Nintendo is making more money now.

Wii U Sales Pass 10 Million Since 2012 And Splatoon Has Sold 1.62 Million Units

http://gonintendo.com/stories/239399-nintendo-posts-best-fiscal-q1-results-since-2012

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Wii U needs a price drop or they won't even hit 15 million.

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#26 Shewgenja
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Drop the price of WiiU for the holidays.

Announce a Pokemon game for it for the love of Bob..

Try having a release date for Zelda by summer '16.

Watch WiiU march forth to a stronger twilight year.

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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@FoxbatAlpha said:

@freedomfreak: Oh, you mean that beaoch from Witcher. Tell me that pu$$y wasn't on a pedestal.

Yennifer is better than Triss! And better looking too!

Ahhh I like Triss better.......now both together would have been cool, I didn't play my cards right I guess.

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@charizard1605 said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

Imagine how much more profitable they could be if they did go third party!

They wouldn't be as profitable, they'd lose out on their hardware revenue stream, as well as licensing revenue streams.

You are not thinking clearly. Everyone loves nintendo games. It's just that no one wants to have to buy a nintendo console to play them.

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#29  Edited By SamusBeliskner
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@nintendoboy16 said:
@charizard1605 said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

Imagine how much more profitable they could be if they did go third party!

They wouldn't be as profitable, they'd lose out on their hardware revenue stream, as well as licensing revenue streams.

"Buh... games would sell more."

Sorry... had to say it.

And they would. Simple math.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

Imagine how much more profitable they could be if they did go third party!

Because you know Nintendo's business and revenue streams so well. With their own hardware they don't need to pay all the fees associated with putting their games on other consoles. Heck, any money you think they would save would all be sucked dry by the other console companies.

Is Sega sitting on some imaginary pile of money that I'm not aware of? Because they went third party and it's hasn't done a damn thing for them.

You don't have to know it well. They are a software publisher, first and foremost. They sell much more software than hardware, by a lot.

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#31  Edited By AzatiS
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@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

If they scroo it up with NX they will go 3rd party though i strongly beleive NX will be an hybrid of console/handheld or something similar and it might get some attention.

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#32  Edited By AzatiS
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@samusbeliskner said:
@charizard1605 said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

Imagine how much more profitable they could be if they did go third party!

They wouldn't be as profitable, they'd lose out on their hardware revenue stream, as well as licensing revenue streams.

You are not thinking clearly. Everyone loves nintendo games. It's just that no one wants to have to buy a nintendo console to play them.

You have a point there ... I personally refuse to pay for this piece of junk , Wii U that is , for 2-3 games i was/am interested in so im renting the system with the game i want or we doing friend meetings and we playing the games with friends etc.

I wouldnt mind to pay for games like Zelda or Bayonetta ... but i wouldnt buy a system for 2-3 games only , then become a dust collector, waste of money and .. space.

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#33  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@samusbeliskner said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

Imagine how much more profitable they could be if they did go third party!

Because you know Nintendo's business and revenue streams so well. With their own hardware they don't need to pay all the fees associated with putting their games on other consoles. Heck, any money you think they would save would all be sucked dry by the other console companies.

Is Sega sitting on some imaginary pile of money that I'm not aware of? Because they went third party and it's hasn't done a damn thing for them.

You don't have to know it well. They are a software publisher, first and foremost. They sell much more software than hardware, by a lot.

It's better to own the candy store where you sell your own candy. Than to sell your candy in someone else's store.

MMmmmm Twix

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@AzatiS said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@charizard1605 said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

Imagine how much more profitable they could be if they did go third party!

They wouldn't be as profitable, they'd lose out on their hardware revenue stream, as well as licensing revenue streams.

You are not thinking clearly. Everyone loves nintendo games. It's just that no one wants to have to buy a nintendo console to play them.

You have a point there ... I personally refuse to pay for this piece of junk , Wii U that is , for 2-3 games i was/am interested in so im renting the system with the game i want or we doing friend meetings and we playing the games with friends etc.

I wouldnt mind to pay for games like Zelda or Bayonetta ... but i wouldnt buy a system for 2-3 games only , then become a dust collector, waste of money and .. space.

Then its good that Nintendo doesn't cater to you. You and your casual 2 games wouldn't keep Nintendo afloat as a 3rd party publisher. Me and my 47 Wii U games do. If Nintendo went 3rd party and had to depend on your casual game purchases, they would need to average 20-30 million units selling like Rockstar.

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#35  Edited By KBFloYd
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@stuff238 said:

Still hasn't outsold the Dreamcast. LMAO.

Just go 3rd party already.

10 million in 3 years at 300$.....didnt the dreamcast not reach that until all the consoles were on fire sale when they announced they were done?

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#36  Edited By Thunderdrone
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@samusbeliskner said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

Imagine how much more profitable they could be if they did go third party!

Because you know Nintendo's business and revenue streams so well. With their own hardware they don't need to pay all the fees associated with putting their games on other consoles. Heck, any money you think they would save would all be sucked dry by the other console companies.

Is Sega sitting on some imaginary pile of money that I'm not aware of? Because they went third party and it's hasn't done a damn thing for them.

You don't have to know it well. They are a software publisher, first and foremost. They sell much more software than hardware, by a lot.

You DO actually have to put some thought on this besides just blurting out a thinly veiled wishfull thought and moving on.

Nintendo as we know it operates within the dynamics that go with owning and operating their own hardware and software. So saying they should shave off a massive component that drives most of their business decisions, suddenly depend on other console makers and expecting their output to not be affected is, well.... quite stupid to say the least.

Games like Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101, Fatal Frame V, SMT X FE, etc would have NO real reason to exist if the need to diversify their libraries in order to lure in people into a more appealing ecosystem, wasnt there.

Low to modest selling IPs like Fire Emblem was until Awakening came out, or even Xenoblade, would never go past the planning stages when a Mario Kart or a Smash game can sell more than both of those combined, three times over. This would mean that the company would suddenly find itself unable to sustain the workforce and talent that fuels both the big and small games, and along with the sudden irrelevancy of most of the R&D department (that also has input on games btw) would lead to massive layoffs, gutting the company from the inside and leaving behind only the necessary talent to sustain the profitable projects.

If this sounds appealing to you or something Iwata or its successor imagines as the future for Nintendo, then I honestly dont know what to say.

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@Thunderdrone said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

Imagine how much more profitable they could be if they did go third party!

Because you know Nintendo's business and revenue streams so well. With their own hardware they don't need to pay all the fees associated with putting their games on other consoles. Heck, any money you think they would save would all be sucked dry by the other console companies.

Is Sega sitting on some imaginary pile of money that I'm not aware of? Because they went third party and it's hasn't done a damn thing for them.

You don't have to know it well. They are a software publisher, first and foremost. They sell much more software than hardware, by a lot.

You DO actually have to put some thought on this besides just blurting out a thinly veiled wishfull thought and moving on.

Nintendo as we know it operates within the dynamics that go with owning and operating their own hardware and software. So saying they should shave off a massive component that drives most of their business decisions, suddenly depend on other console makers and expecting their output to not be affected is, well.... quite stupid to say the least.

Games like Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101, Fatal Frame V, SMT X FE, etc would have NO real reason to exist if the need to diversify their libraries in order to lure in people into a more appealing ecosystem, wasnt there.

Low to modest selling IPs like Fire Emblem was until Awakening came out, or even Xenoblade, would never go past the planning stages when a Mario Kart or a Smash game can sell more than both of those combined, three times over. This would mean that the company would suddenly find itself unable to sustain the workforce and talent that fuels both the big and small games, and along with the sudden irrelevancy of most of the R&D department (that also has input on games btw) would lead to massive layoffs, gutting the company from the inside and leaving behind only the necessary talent to sustain the profitable projects.

If this sounds appealing to you or something Iwata or its successor imagines as the future for Nintendo, then I honestly dont know what to say.

Thank you. It makes me laugh that gamers think they can tell big corporations how to be profitable. Nintendo has lived through many major shifts in the gaming landscape. Their methods are tried and true and even led to the Wii selling over 100 million units.

People laugh at Nintendo thinking they don't know what they are doing. They laughed at Amiibos. They laughed at Splatoon. Well keep laughing because they are still alive and well and profitable. The playstation and the xbox one could never sustain a Wii U like failure. But who can, yup the big N.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

Imagine how much more profitable they could be if they did go third party!

Because you know Nintendo's business and revenue streams so well. With their own hardware they don't need to pay all the fees associated with putting their games on other consoles. Heck, any money you think they would save would all be sucked dry by the other console companies.

Is Sega sitting on some imaginary pile of money that I'm not aware of? Because they went third party and it's hasn't done a damn thing for them.

You don't have to know it well. They are a software publisher, first and foremost. They sell much more software than hardware, by a lot.

It's better to own the candy store where you sell your own candy. Than to sell your candy in someone else's store.

MMmmmm Twix

That doesn't work if no one goes inside your candy store in the first place.

Why would anyone make a product that is only sold in a handful of stores, when they can sell that product in 5000 stores everyone goes to? Your analogy fails.

If everyone thought like you, they would go out of business.

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#39  Edited By AzatiS
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@bunchanumbers said:
@AzatiS said:
@samusbeliskner said:

You are not thinking clearly. Everyone loves nintendo games. It's just that no one wants to have to buy a nintendo console to play them.

You have a point there ... I personally refuse to pay for this piece of junk , Wii U that is , for 2-3 games i was/am interested in so im renting the system with the game i want or we doing friend meetings and we playing the games with friends etc.

I wouldnt mind to pay for games like Zelda or Bayonetta ... but i wouldnt buy a system for 2-3 games only , then become a dust collector, waste of money and .. space.

Then its good that Nintendo doesn't cater to you. You and your casual 2 games wouldn't keep Nintendo afloat as a 3rd party publisher. Me and my 47 Wii U games do. If Nintendo went 3rd party and had to depend on your casual game purchases, they would need to average 20-30 million units selling like Rockstar.

You sound like Nintendo games are costly as much as a GTA game and is hard to make a revenue from them ... Are you serious now ? Besides i would buy what everyone would .. Zelda / Main mario game and ... maybe a Mario RPG. 3 games from same publisher , isnt that ok ? I mean ... why the hell for a game like Kart to need Rockstars games sales in order to bring in $$ ? Lol man ...

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Tiny sales for the wii u, but considering how cheap the tech is and how expensive they are selling it, they still make a profit. Not good for the fans because the tech is so shit and over priced but people still celebrate a corporation cheating them.

Revenue is not good. 10 million sales. Jesus Christ. That's alarming.Take the wii out and every gen they get worse.

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#41 AzatiS
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@charizard1605: Considering how bad Wii U does , not bad for Nintendo , specially when in 2015 has nothing to show off like in 2014 software wise. Lets see what will happen with Zelda , there will be a boost on sales for sure.

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@DocSanchez said:

Tiny sales for the wii u, but considering how cheap the tech is and how expensive they are selling it, they still make a profit. Not good for the fans because the tech is so shit and over priced but people still celebrate a corporation cheating them.

Revenue is not good. 10 million sales. Jesus Christ. That's alarming.Take the wii out and every gen they get worse.

thats where hater logic like yours and others fails....the wii...

if only the wii didn't exist.

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@AzatiS said:
@bunchanumbers said:
@AzatiS said:
@samusbeliskner said:

You are not thinking clearly. Everyone loves nintendo games. It's just that no one wants to have to buy a nintendo console to play them.

You have a point there ... I personally refuse to pay for this piece of junk , Wii U that is , for 2-3 games i was/am interested in so im renting the system with the game i want or we doing friend meetings and we playing the games with friends etc.

I wouldnt mind to pay for games like Zelda or Bayonetta ... but i wouldnt buy a system for 2-3 games only , then become a dust collector, waste of money and .. space.

Then its good that Nintendo doesn't cater to you. You and your casual 2 games wouldn't keep Nintendo afloat as a 3rd party publisher. Me and my 47 Wii U games do. If Nintendo went 3rd party and had to depend on your casual game purchases, they would need to average 20-30 million units selling like Rockstar.

You sound like Nintendo games are costly as much as a GTA game and is hard to make a revenue from them ... Are you serious now ? Besides i would buy what everyone would .. Zelda / Main mario game and ... maybe a Mario RPG. 3 games from same publisher , isnt that ok ? I mean ... why the hell for a game like Kart to need Rockstars games sales in order to bring in $$ ? Lol man ...

And what happens after that? Nintendo has to be funding the advertising, distribution, and promotion. It would be too much to risk when they are also losing money to licensing fees and developing for multiple consoles. Not to mention people would expect sale prices 2 months after launch like every other 3rd party publisher while as a first party publisher they determine the value of their product. It just makes no sense. Look where they are now. Still making profits even in this situation. This whole argument is pointless because they're still making cash.

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@AzatiS said:
@bunchanumbers said:
@AzatiS said:
@samusbeliskner said:

You are not thinking clearly. Everyone loves nintendo games. It's just that no one wants to have to buy a nintendo console to play them.

You have a point there ... I personally refuse to pay for this piece of junk , Wii U that is , for 2-3 games i was/am interested in so im renting the system with the game i want or we doing friend meetings and we playing the games with friends etc.

I wouldnt mind to pay for games like Zelda or Bayonetta ... but i wouldnt buy a system for 2-3 games only , then become a dust collector, waste of money and .. space.

Then its good that Nintendo doesn't cater to you. You and your casual 2 games wouldn't keep Nintendo afloat as a 3rd party publisher. Me and my 47 Wii U games do. If Nintendo went 3rd party and had to depend on your casual game purchases, they would need to average 20-30 million units selling like Rockstar.

You sound like Nintendo games are costly as much as a GTA game and is hard to make a revenue from them ... Are you serious now ? Besides i would buy what everyone would .. Zelda / Main mario game and ... maybe a Mario RPG. 3 games from same publisher , isnt that ok ? I mean ... why the hell for a game like Kart to need Rockstars games sales in order to bring in $$ ? Lol man ...

So you are okay with nintendo being reduced to a smaller, less diverse dev house, because you happen to only care about franchises you assume would survive the third party transition.

Tell me how this benefits anyone (Nintendo included) other than you and your desire to play 3 or 4 specific Nintendo titles on your favourite game box, that you assume would be safe from the culling?

lol

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@KBFloYd said:
@DocSanchez said:

Tiny sales for the wii u, but considering how cheap the tech is and how expensive they are selling it, they still make a profit. Not good for the fans because the tech is so shit and over priced but people still celebrate a corporation cheating them.

Revenue is not good. 10 million sales. Jesus Christ. That's alarming.Take the wii out and every gen they get worse.

thats where hater logic like yours and others fails....the wii...

if only the wii didn't exist.

If the Wii Didn't exist, they would be dead

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@bunchanumbers said:
@AzatiS said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Then its good that Nintendo doesn't cater to you. You and your casual 2 games wouldn't keep Nintendo afloat as a 3rd party publisher. Me and my 47 Wii U games do. If Nintendo went 3rd party and had to depend on your casual game purchases, they would need to average 20-30 million units selling like Rockstar.

You sound like Nintendo games are costly as much as a GTA game and is hard to make a revenue from them ... Are you serious now ? Besides i would buy what everyone would .. Zelda / Main mario game and ... maybe a Mario RPG. 3 games from same publisher , isnt that ok ? I mean ... why the hell for a game like Kart to need Rockstars games sales in order to bring in $$ ? Lol man ...

And what happens after that? Nintendo has to be funding the advertising, distribution, and promotion. It would be too much to risk when they are also losing money to licensing fees and developing for multiple consoles. Not to mention people would expect sale prices 2 months after launch like every other 3rd party publisher while as a first party publisher they determine the value of their product. It just makes no sense. Look where they are now. Still making profits even in this situation. This whole argument is pointless because they're still making cash.

What do you mean what happens after that ? I dont get you . What every other successful publisher and developer does to keep profits up. Also the consoles now are waaaay more friendly architecture wise that makes ports for one system to the other ..a piece of cake. Its for a reason why myriads of developers praised the choice of hardware this generation. And i dont see that change anytime soon. So i dont agree developing for multiple consoles is a real costly issue.

If people wait 2 months or not ... doesnt affect many AAA caliber developers ... why someone like Nintendo to be affected by this ... We talking about one of the most talented developer around with some of the biggest and more established franchises in gaming history here , not just a random company .. theres a difference imho there. I get your point though.

Its pretty impressive how good they do under this situation indeed. But when 3DS will start to lagging further .. then what ? You know that NX is the last hope for Nintendo ( consoles wise ) more likely right ? Thats what i think , i hope im wrong ( or not , since i would love to play Nintendo games on the systems i really like , even if i like just few of them )

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#47  Edited By jsmoke03
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i guess ninty will float or sink with their handhelds.

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Can we return on-top, please?

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@charizard1605 said:
@samusbeliskner said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Pft. Nintendo posting Profits? Its obviously a error. Someone should tell them that people in forums is saying they're doomed and that they should go 3rd party.

Imagine how much more profitable they could be if they did go third party!

They wouldn't be as profitable, they'd lose out on their hardware revenue stream, as well as licensing revenue streams.

Yeah, all that money they got from the 6 retail games on the WiiU so far this year!

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Mario Kart 8 is still selling very well.Splatoon is selling very well and it will definetely be over 2 million and maybe over 2.5 million by the end of the year. It's good to hear that the WiiU finally broke 10 million, but it's still not selling that well.