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#1 Dibdibdobdobo
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2 Years in and Nintendo made a big promise just before this new generation started of "were going for the core gamer and not casuauls like Wii" which to me still thinks theyre still lacking in several departments when it comes to different genres of games but slowly working upon it with some great looking games in 2015 like Pokken, X and Splatoon which are 3 games in different genre's which nintendo dont have many IPs in.

So have in your opinion have Nintendo lived up to their promise of going for Gamers like yourself.

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#2 bunchanumbers
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Nintendo funded and published the only AAAAE this generation, Bayonetta 2. Even included Bayonetta 1 for certain territories. Then factor in tough challenges like DKCTF and Hero mode on WWHD and I'm inclined to agree. Nintendo has some of the tougher challenges in gaming today.

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#3 inb4uall
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Better than Sony or MS have.

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#4  Edited By TrappedInABox91
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Coming off the worse console of all time: The Wii. IMO. They have been trying for the core gamer and are doing an O.K job. The name of the fucker is the worse part. Who wants to buy something called " Wii U"? Who named this Gamecube of a system? Seriously.

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#6 freedomfreak
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It's funny how some people link hardcore to playing games that are about violence, nudity and swearing. And that's literally the stuff Nintendo went after with Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third.

They couldn't have been more transparent about it.

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#7  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Wii Fit U is the most hardcore game of all time. If you don't believe me, just think about the name, and what it means. Think about it.

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#8  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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@charizard1605 said:

Wii Fit U is the most hardcore game of all time. If you don't believe me, just think about the name, and what it means. Think about it.

Hahaha clever

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#9 nintendoboy16
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No... for many convoluted reasons.

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#10 Lulu_Lulu
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Ofcourse they have... Infact the promise is moot since they've been releasing Hardcore Games consistently, including on the Wii.

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#11  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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Yeah I don't like that mentality either... I'm sure Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker is going to be way more Hardcore. Its always funny when somebody brags about Dark Souls and then is Stymied by a Puzzle Halfway through Portal.

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#12 freedomfreak
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Yeah I don't like that mentality either... I'm sure Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker is going to be way more Hardcore. Its always funny when somebody brags about Dark Souls and then is Stymied by a Puzzle Halfway through Portal.

Yeah, Souls games are for noobs. Nothing hard or interesting about trial and error.

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#13 Lulu_Lulu
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That plus Stats... :) Bayonetta doesn't give the player ther luxury of grinding to increase stats....

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That plus Stats... :) Bayonetta doesn't give the player ther luxury of grinding to increase stats....

Exactly. Pure skill.

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LoL... And they have the nerve to tell me to "git gud".... Thats six kinds of Wrong.

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#16 speedfreak48t5p
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All Hail Godtendo!

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#17  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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No, Nintendo themselves have never really "Left" the Core market. Just look at the games, It tells you a different story if you think otherwise.

HOWEVER THOSE PROMISES THEY MADE AT THOSE E3s LONG AGO HAVE BEEN UNFULFILLED.

  1. We still don't have a Ghost Recon game.
  2. EA has pulled the plug on anything Nintendo related.
  3. 3rd Party games are almost nonexistent on the hardware.
  4. There are huge gaping holes in Game Genres that need to be filled in the WiiU's library.
  5. TVii sucks and the app doesn't seem to work right most of the time (and poor Europe thinks they're missing something special).

In short, Nintendo shot themselves in the foot with the WiiU (shocking I know, lets beat the dead horse some more). But That's not stopping them from being Nintendo and pumping out Amazing games that have been proven to be some of the industry's best.

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#18  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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@speedfreak48t5p

I don't think I've ever seen you so Enthusiastic and Zealous....

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#19 Lulu_Lulu
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The Company that was voted as the most hated company in America award and won..... TWICE, pulled their support from the Wii U ?..... Oh Noooooo ! :o

Couldn't you have picked something like Capcom or Ubisoft ?

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#20 speedfreak48t5p
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@speedfreak48t5p

I don't think I've ever seen you so Enthusiastic and Zealous....

Oh just wait until I go on a rant about Ubisoft and requiring a mobile device to 100% AC Unity.

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#21 Heil68
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Not to me the haven't. I wont buy another Nintedno console.

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@LegatoSkyheart

The Company that was voted as the most hated company in America award and won..... TWICE, pulled their support from the Wii U ?..... Oh Noooooo ! :o

Couldn't you have picked something like Capcom or Ubisoft ?

Unfortunately, EA, like Ubisoft and Activision are among the defining powers of the industry as much as we hate them (I'm still not buying their newer products even IF they do go back to Nintendo).

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#23 Lulu_Lulu
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Oh Yeah... You have it.... Don't Worry, they'l fix it... Eventually. Ofcourse they'l fix it faster if people keep shining a light on it. :)

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The only worthy loss is FIFA...

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#26 Lulu_Lulu
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When did Nintendo try to Appeal to Assassin's Creed and CoD Demographic ? :o

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No.... don't get me wrong, I love their games.

But for the core gamer you need all the important multiplats... and good online services and features to match.

I don't see why they can't make a carbon copy of a PS4 with Nintendo First party... what is wrong with that? what do they lose exactly?

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#28 nintendoboy16
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No.... don't get me wrong, I love their games.

But for the core gamer you need all the important multiplats... and good online services and features to match.

I don't see why they can't make a carbon copy of a PS4 with Nintendo First party... what is wrong with that? what do they lose exactly?

A whole ton of money.

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#29 Lulu_Lulu
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They're entire fanbase who care more about the games than the system itself ?

Nintendo doesn't want to compete, they want to stand out, The PC wanna be market is already split between Sony and Microsoft, if Nintendo copies them then it will split three ways, all of them trying to do the samething...

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#31 Lulu_Lulu
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Thats just Nintendo increasing their Library....

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@nintendoboy16 said:

@MBirdy88 said:

No.... don't get me wrong, I love their games.

But for the core gamer you need all the important multiplats... and good online services and features to match.

I don't see why they can't make a carbon copy of a PS4 with Nintendo First party... what is wrong with that? what do they lose exactly?

A whole ton of money.

Well yea granted... R&D is a b*tch... but if you fall too far behind... the cost is greater. Very much doubt they will have another "Wii" generation.... with that much easy profit.

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@MBirdy88

They're entire fanbase who care more about the games than the system itself ?

Nintendo doesn't want to compete, they want to stand out, The PC wanna be market is already split between Sony and Microsoft, if Nintendo copies them then it will split three ways, all of them trying to do the samething...

Er what? I said "including their games" .....

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#34 Lulu_Lulu
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No way man.... there are some 3rd Party Titles that can go Toe to Toe with Nintendo EAD's Finest.... They could benefit from keeping these guys on their systems, where they can watch them carefully... Obviously Creed Of Duty isn't One of them.

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#35 Lulu_Lulu
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Their Games will be affteced, possibly for the worst... Its the shitty hardware thats keeping them Honest :)

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#37  Edited By Zelda187
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When the WiiU drops down to around $199 and the new Zelda and Xenogears come out, I'll certainly buy one.

But if I didn't have a quality gaming PC and could only afford one new "next gen" system...then I wouldn't go anywhere near it.

Nintendo has basically been making "companion" consoles dating back to the N64.

For example, I liked the N64...but I sure as hell wouldn't have chosen it over the PS1.

I liked the Gamecube...but I sure as hell wouldn't have chosen it over the PS2 or XBOX.

Nintendo hasn't had that juggernaut, go-to console since the SNES.

Doesn't mean that Nintendo sucks, they just have a more limited appeal now.

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#38 Lulu_Lulu
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Dragon Age ?! Come on... :(

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#39  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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Dragon Age ?! Come on... :(

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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@MBirdy88

Their Games will be affteced, possibly for the worst... Its the shitty hardware thats keeping them Honest :)

There is no proof to any of that....

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#41 Lulu_Lulu
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Exactly... So leave Nintendos Hardware be and let Microsoft and Sony fight to be the best Nuetered PC. Everybody wins !

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Exactly... So leave Nintendos Hardware be and let Microsoft and Sony fight to be the best Nuetered PC. Everybody wins !

no.... Nintendo's market share loses.... nintendo's potential loses.

What does hardware have to do with quality software? especially from first parties.... all it means is more power for them... nothing else, can keep making the same quality art direction and gameplay. only actually be the general publics system of choice.... and support much more...

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#44  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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No it wasn't... People said the same thing about Stats Effect. Dragon Stats is no Different. :p

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#45 Lulu_Lulu
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Doesn't matter... Being Shameless Copy Cats aint gonna help them win... Not at this point... That ship has long sailed.

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#46 LegatoSkyheart
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@Lulu_Lulu: its a huge misconception gamers make to think Nintendo fans aren't attracted to Assassin's creed or Call of Duty.

If Unity, Rouge, or Advance Warfare were on WiiU you bet I would be all over it.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

@Lulu_Lulu said:

@LegatoSkyheart

The Company that was voted as the most hated company in America award and won..... TWICE, pulled their support from the Wii U ?..... Oh Noooooo ! :o

Couldn't you have picked something like Capcom or Ubisoft ?

Unfortunately, EA, like Ubisoft and Activision are among the defining powers of the industry as much as we hate them (I'm still not buying their newer products even IF they do go back to Nintendo).

Not even Dragon Age Inquisition (which is pretty good so far tbh)? :(

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#48 superbuuman
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No not on Wii U, Xenoblade Chronicles X is still not release. :P

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#49  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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I know very little about Inquisition... But the other two... Nope.

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#50  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@PikminWorld said:
@nintendoboy16 said:
@Lulu_Lulu said:

@LegatoSkyheart

The Company that was voted as the most hated company in America award and won..... TWICE, pulled their support from the Wii U ?..... Oh Noooooo ! :o

Couldn't you have picked something like Capcom or Ubisoft ?

Unfortunately, EA, like Ubisoft and Activision are among the defining powers of the industry as much as we hate them (I'm still not buying their newer products even IF they do go back to Nintendo).

Not even Dragon Age Inquisition (which is pretty good so far tbh)? :(

As much as I really like Bioware and Dragon Age. Nope. I hate doing it myself, but EA in general just hit the last nerve with Sim City. This means I'm avoiding the next Star Wars game too and if EA touches any other license I like, say Dragon Ball, you can bet I'll avoid it (at least until I can tolerate EA again).