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do you think nintendo is doing the right thing? buy gaming weaker hardware so companys will focus on game play. i feel that games are going down the wrong path all company seems to care about is how good the game looks. let at game look gears looks amazing but very short its online maps are tiny and ovly can have 8 players.deadmeat59
yea thats why ps2 sold the most :|
please troll get something new.
No. The Wii does not mean developers will make games with better gameplay. It means they will get to reuse last gen games and engines for another 5 years. It means they will try to incorperate motion contols into everything even if they don't add anything to the game, simply because thats the point of the system. It means Nintendo is able to make huge amounts of money on hardware that is little more than a slightly improved version of something that sells for 70 USD at most stores. It means people will still pay close to the price of a 360 core, and get a fraction of the hardware, and it will set an example for future generations of marketing.
I like Nintendo franchises, that's why I own a Wii, not for the motion sensing, not for any other reason. There might be 1 or 2 decent 3rd party games i will buy for it, but my Wii library is going to be almost all first party. If Nintendo went 3rd party and released the wii mote for the ps3 and 360, I would buy the same amount of their games as if it was on a console of their own, maybe more.
They've done a brilliant job of marketing. But untill I play something truly amazing on that system that can't be had anywhere else, and can't be just as enjoyable as with motion sensing, I will continue to see it as nothing more than that.
michaelareb0001
your worst than tc
just beacuse ps3 and 360 have power and graphcis dosent mean they make it better for gamepaly either
wii uses some old tech plus new tech dont be a noob
the worst thing Nintendo did in this gen so far was that no online third party games this yearpoopinloop32For once I agree with you. I'm so freaking confused as to why they wont give the devs online kits or whatever. it kinda seems like bad business sence when everything else they are doing in terms of business is correct.
Wavebrid I assure you, I know plenty about all three consoles. The Wii may be 3x more powerful than the origional xbox in processing power, but it lacks the ability to do most of the effects the xbox handled with ease.
I am aware the PS3 and 360 don't mean better gameplay because of the tech inside, I never said that, but it is a pretty well know fact, that around here, people for some reason equate Wii to good gameplay. Outside of Zelda, I have not seen a single game with good gameplay that couldn't be done on A) a PS3 or 360 (and better for that matter) or B) done on the gamecube
EDIT: I would have made an exception for Elebits except it was way too short and repetative.
michaelareb0001
1. thats developers not the hardware problem.
2. your assuming thats the problem here. red steel is good with the wiiremote but it did have some problems. though red steel is a good game . dont call it fact when its your Opioion
elbits is a third party game not nintendo fault.
madden plays better on wii accodring to reviews (dont worry i dont go bye them ) i go by my standards.
[QUOTE="poopinloop32"]the worst thing Nintendo did in this gen so far was that no online third party games this yearwavebrid
last time i check its stil 2007
stop making crap up
this was linked and disscussed a week ago..just because its agianst nintendo doesnt mean its not true[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"]the worst thing Nintendo did in this gen so far was that no online third party games this yearpoopinloop32
last time i check its stil 2007
stop making crap up
this was linked and disscussed a week ago..just because its agianst nintendo doesnt mean its not truejust beacuse a link says it dosent mean its true
explain to me why there online kits for wii for thrid paty support please... you been avoding this question ANSWER IT
[QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"]the worst thing Nintendo did in this gen so far was that no online third party games this yearwavebrid
last time i check its stil 2007
stop making crap up
this was linked and disscussed a week ago..just because its agianst nintendo doesnt mean its not truejust beacuse a link says it dosent mean its true
explain to me why there online kits for wii for thrid paty support please... you been avoding this question ANSWER IT
link?[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"]the worst thing Nintendo did in this gen so far was that no online third party games this yearpoopinloop32
last time i check its stil 2007
stop making crap up
this was linked and disscussed a week ago..just because its agianst nintendo doesnt mean its not truejust beacuse a link says it dosent mean its true
explain to me why there online kits for wii for thrid paty support please... you been avoding this question ANSWER IT
link?ok while you send me a link to where that came from i look for you link
http://www.aeropause.com/archives/2007/02/third_parties_f.php
not the best source still proves it
[QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"]the worst thing Nintendo did in this gen so far was that no online third party games this yearwavebrid
last time i check its stil 2007
stop making crap up
this was linked and disscussed a week ago..just because its agianst nintendo doesnt mean its not truejust beacuse a link says it dosent mean its true
explain to me why there online kits for wii for thrid paty support please... you been avoding this question ANSWER IT
nintendo hasnt released the online dev kits to 3th party yet. and probably wont until later this year. third party games probably wont have online until 08. hes not lieing[QUOTE="michaelareb0001"]Wavebrid I assure you, I know plenty about all three consoles. The Wii may be 3x more powerful than the origional xbox in processing power, but it lacks the ability to do most of the effects the xbox handled with ease.
I am aware the PS3 and 360 don't mean better gameplay because of the tech inside, I never said that, but it is a pretty well know fact, that around here, people for some reason equate Wii to good gameplay. Outside of Zelda, I have not seen a single game with good gameplay that couldn't be done on A) a PS3 or 360 (and better for that matter) or B) done on the gamecube
EDIT: I would have made an exception for Elebits except it was way too short and repetative.
wavebrid
1. thats developers not the hardware problem.
2. your assuming thats the problem here. red steel is good with the wiiremote but it did have some problems. though red steel is a good game . dont call it fact when its your Opioion
elbits is a third party game not nintendo fault.
madden plays better on wii accodring to reviews (dont worry i dont go bye them ) i go by my standards.
[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="michaelareb0001"]Wavebrid I assure you, I know plenty about all three consoles. The Wii may be 3x more powerful than the origional xbox in processing power, but it lacks the ability to do most of the effects the xbox handled with ease.
I am aware the PS3 and 360 don't mean better gameplay because of the tech inside, I never said that, but it is a pretty well know fact, that around here, people for some reason equate Wii to good gameplay. Outside of Zelda, I have not seen a single game with good gameplay that couldn't be done on A) a PS3 or 360 (and better for that matter) or B) done on the gamecube
EDIT: I would have made an exception for Elebits except it was way too short and repetative.
michaelareb0001
1. thats developers not the hardware problem.
2. your assuming thats the problem here. red steel is good with the wiiremote but it did have some problems. though red steel is a good game . dont call it fact when its your Opioion
elbits is a third party game not nintendo fault.
madden plays better on wii accodring to reviews (dont worry i dont go bye them ) i go by my standards.
dont even say that. beacsue there nothing proving wiiremote holding back crap
can you prove me wrong. it suppose to be a flick of wirst...
so that makes it better than wii verison :roll:
or you just plain suck at them :|
red steel is a good game. dont try to put words in my mouth i enjoy it :| i know its a good game just beaucse you dont dosent mean its bad or medicorn...
and what good games are out for ps3 ..... please tell me i like to know :|
zelda is still zelda you can play on wii and gc so what
[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"]the worst thing Nintendo did in this gen so far was that no online third party games this yearlaughingman42
last time i check its stil 2007
stop making crap up
this was linked and disscussed a week ago..just because its agianst nintendo doesnt mean its not truejust beacuse a link says it dosent mean its true
explain to me why there online kits for wii for thrid paty support please... you been avoding this question ANSWER IT
nintendo hasnt released the online dev kits to 3th party yet. and probably wont until later this year. third party games probably wont have online until 08. hes not lieinghttp://www.aeropause.com/archives/2007/02/third_parties_f.php
go shutup and read it Yes they have
[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"]the worst thing Nintendo did in this gen so far was that no online third party games this yearwavebrid
last time i check its stil 2007
stop making crap up
this was linked and disscussed a week ago..just because its agianst nintendo doesnt mean its not truejust beacuse a link says it dosent mean its true
explain to me why there online kits for wii for thrid paty support please... you been avoding this question ANSWER IT
nintendo hasnt released the online dev kits to 3th party yet. and probably wont until later this year. third party games probably wont have online until 08. hes not lieinghttp://www.aeropause.com/archives/2007/02/third_parties_f.php
go shutup and read it Yes they have
another link (which I cant find but was on here a few days ago) said otherwise. It said it was third hand how reliable can it be.Red Steel is not a good game, it is a medicore game with a twist. It's AI, story and the majority of the levels are horrible and the controls lack the precision needed for a good FPS. In sword fighting, all you do is trigger pre defined animations. I literly twirled my wiimote around by the strap and unleased 4 different attacks. It may be the best FPS on the Wii, but it's competetion is even worseI agree that it wasn't an objectively good game in such categories as AI and level design. It's story, however, I felt was decent, mainly because it was highly philosophical containing reflections on feudal Japanese concepts of honor and ends-justifying-means approaches. I highly disagree on your comment that the Wiimote lacks precision and controls for FPS games. I don't know why anyone subjects themselves to the depravities of dual analog controls. If you want imprecise and clunky, you pick dual analog. The Wiimote point-and-shoot approach has been the closest thing to mouse-and-keyboard (M&K) accuracy on a console to date. What it lacks for the speed of turning with M&K, it makes up for it with a greater ability to move independently of your aim, thus, instead of naturally circle strafing enemies while aiming at them, you can strafe sideways or move backwards, etc, while still maintaining fire on an enemy. This is a useful advantage for shooting enemies while moving for cover. There is also something satisfying about running STRAIGHT down a hallway, headshotting people on different sides of the corridor, instead of having to move diagonally to aim while moving. Your comment lends me to believe you've spent little to no time playing Red Steel. When your ability to aim is only limited by how fast and accurate your hand is as opposed to a pre-defined turn speed, you potentially have faster, better aim (assuming the player isn't the limiting factor). Granted, its implementation of aiming wasn't perfect, two of its greatest faults being a slight but noticeable cursor lag and difficulty turning and firing at the same time due to a huge bounding box. This is not to say that someone with tons of practice with dual analog can't aim precisely but, damn, I feel sorry for people who have to put up with that crap. Limited aim speed, tough to quickly aim at different points in a room, generally inaccurate due to the small size of analog sticks (thus it's harder to get all of the speed gradations possible with analog as opposed to a full-size joystick - ever had that problem of having your cursor go past that far off enemy then, when you try to go back that little bit, you overshoot and, once again, go past the target?), dual analog was the only practical solution for its age, but it's time to move on.
michaelareb0001
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