Next generation performance: Playstation 4 vs Xbox One

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#1 Edited by PAL360 (26311 posts) -

Much has been speculated about the evolutionary leap from the current generation to the next one. Many argued that the new consoles would not have sufficient capacity to endure both: the graphical leap and better performance. Thankfully they were wrong. Most next gen games not only look great, but also do run at 1080p and 60fps.

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This list is based on confirmation and rumors. Feel free to post new info or prove anything in the list wrong.

Playstation 4:

Xbox One:

Now...behave yourselves :P

#2 Edited by Renevent42 (4949 posts) -

#3 Posted by silversix_ (12543 posts) -

Why u no 1080P xbox?

Because 720p is inside X1's blood. Why do you think we've been calling next gen xbone the Xbox 720 since 05?

#4 Edited by -Damien- (4923 posts) -

wow look at those 1080P for PS4!!!!!

in the meantime bone.....is stuck with 720P...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

#5 Edited by waltefmoney (18030 posts) -

Dead Rising 3's and Titanfall's resolutions are not confirmed TC. Stop spreading FUD.

#6 Posted by Shewgenja (6828 posts) -

Dat CableBox720 yo!

#7 Edited by AutoPilotOn (7405 posts) -
#8 Edited by Snugenz (11114 posts) -

Playstation 4:

  • Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag (1920x1080 ...fps)
  • Battlefield 4 (1600x900 60fps)
  • Blacklight: Retribution (1920x1080 ...fps)
  • Call of Duty: Ghosts (1920x1080 60fps)
  • Deep Down (1920x1080 60fps)
  • Drive Club (1920x1080 ...fps)
  • Fifa 2014 (1920x1080 60fps)
  • Infamous: Second Son (1920x1080 ...fps)
  • Killzone Shadow Fall (1920x1080 30/60fps)
  • Knack (1920x1080 ...fps)
  • NBA 2K14 (1920x1080 60fps)
  • The Order 1886 (1920x800 ...fps)
  • Thief (1920x1080 ...fps)
  • Warframe (1920x1080 ...fps)

Xbox One:

  • Battlefield 4 (1280x720 60fps)
  • Call of Duty: Ghosts (1280x720 60fps)
  • Dead Rising 3 (1280x720 30fps)
  • Fifa 2014 (1920x1080 60fps)
  • Forza Motorsport 5 (1920x1080 60fps)
  • Killer Instinct (1280x720 60fps)
  • NBA 2K14 (1920x1080 60fps)
  • Ryse: Son of Rome (1600x900 30fps)
  • Titanfall (1280x720 60fps)

Removed some of the games on the PS4 list that would easily run at 1080p60 on the X1 aswell. PS4 still has a substantial lead.

Also, is Thief not coming out on the Xbone aswell?.

#9 Posted by shawn30 (3696 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

Playstation 4:

  • Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag (1920x1080 ...fps)
  • Battlefield 4 (1600x900 60fps)
  • Blacklight: Retribution (1920x1080 ...fps)
  • Call of Duty: Ghosts (1920x1080 60fps)
  • Deep Down (1920x1080 60fps)
  • Drive Club (1920x1080 ...fps)
  • Fifa 2014 (1920x1080 60fps)
  • Infamous: Second Son (1920x1080 ...fps)
  • Killzone Shadow Fall (1920x1080 30/60fps)
  • Knack (1920x1080 ...fps)
  • NBA 2K14 (1920x1080 60fps)
  • The Order 1886 (1920x800 ...fps)
  • Thief (1920x1080 ...fps)
  • Warframe (1920x1080 ...fps)

Xbox One:

  • Battlefield 4 (1280x720 60fps)
  • Call of Duty: Ghosts (1280x720 60fps)
  • Dead Rising 3 (1280x720 30fps)
  • Fifa 2014 (1920x1080 60fps)
  • Forza Motorsport 5 (1920x1080 60fps)
  • Killer Instinct (1280x720 60fps)
  • NBA 2K14 (1920x1080 60fps)
  • Ryse: Son of Rome (1600x900 30fps)
  • Titanfall (1280x720 60fps)

Removed some of the games on the PS4 list that would easily run at 1080p60 on the X1 aswell. PS4 still has a substantial lead.

It does and the ease of the PS4 games reaching 1080p and more of them is pretty obvious. But the One will certainly achieve more 1080p games going forward as the dev tools are better optimized.

#10 Posted by PAL360 (26311 posts) -

Dead Rising 3's and Titanfall's resolutions are not confirmed TC. Stop spreading FUD.

Removed those, but like i said, this thread is based on rumors too.

#11 Edited by XxR3m1xInHDn3D (1967 posts) -

hmm better graphics (ps4) vs better games (xbox one) decisions decisions

#12 Posted by AtariKidX (6138 posts) -

@-Damien- said:

wow look at those 1080P for PS4!!!!!

in the meantime bone.....is stuck with 720P...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

They should name it XBone 720..............lol

#13 Posted by donalbane (15849 posts) -

@Renevent42 said:

Why u no 1080P xbox?

Because 720p is inside X1's blood. Why do you think we've been calling next gen xbone the Xbox 720 since 05?

I read it's because their ESRAM drivers aren't ready for prime time. Just as it took the PS3 several years to hit it's stride, I predict we'll see the quality of Xbox One games - including the game resolution - improve over the coming months and years.

#14 Posted by Couth_ (9679 posts) -

@shawn30 said:

It does and the ease of the PS4 games reaching 1080p and more of them is pretty obvious. But the One will certainly achieve more 1080p games going forward as the dev tools are better optimized.

It has nothing to do with the dev tools. The xbone GPU can't push 2.1 million pixels at 60fps. Games will get better assets buit the xb0ne will, for the most part, be a 720p box for the life of the console

#15 Edited by Heil68 (40488 posts) -

lots of 1080p goodness in that PS4 list.

#16 Posted by always_explicit (2134 posts) -

It wont take long, we saw last gen that multiplats were comparable in quality with only subtle differences. First party devs will continue to bring the goods because its always been that way.

Despite topic after topic on this and umpteen painfully dull tormentos posts the differences are not as black and white as forum dwellers will have you believe.

#17 Posted by Couth_ (9679 posts) -

It wont take long, we saw last gen that multiplats were comparable in quality with only subtle differences. First party devs will continue to bring the goods because its always been that way.

Despite topic after topic on this and umpteen painfully dull tormentos posts the differences are not as black and white as forum dwellers will have you believe.

No. It really is. The difference between 720p at 1280x720= .9million pixels and 1080p at 1920x1080 = 2.1 million pixels is 1.2 million pixels, over twice as many in 1080p than in 720p. The power required to produce 1080 over 720 is substantial, and there is a substantial power difference in the console's GPU. Look how the xb0ne GPU, 7770 performs at 1080p in in comparison to the 7850/7870 of the ps4.. The 7770 simply can not hit 1080p60fps in most modern games. Not even last gen games. Lol @ goons that think it will be able to hit 1080p going forward. The assets will improve but it's a 720p box for life. The power just is not there.

#18 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (11040 posts) -

Jesus, nearly everything on the ps4 is 1920x1080 except for bf4.

I had no idea the gap was that big.

I think the order is also rendering at 1920x1080, but scaled to 800 for whatever reason, oh yeah a cinematic widescreen experience.

#19 Edited by hrt_rulz01 (4955 posts) -

Anyone else sick and tired of all this "Xb1 only 720p & PS4 is 1080p" crap?!?! Just buy one and enjoy it for goodness sake.

#20 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (11040 posts) -

Anyone else sick and tired of all this "Xb1 only 720p & PS4 is 1080p" crap?!?! Just buy one and enjoy it for goodness sake.

That's hard to do seeing how neither is available yet.

I imagine alot of this will calm down once we actually have the systems.

#21 Edited by always_explicit (2134 posts) -

@Couth_ said:

@always_explicit said:

It wont take long, we saw last gen that multiplats were comparable in quality with only subtle differences. First party devs will continue to bring the goods because its always been that way.

Despite topic after topic on this and umpteen painfully dull tormentos posts the differences are not as black and white as forum dwellers will have you believe.

No. It really is. The difference between 720p at 1280x720= .9million pixels and 1080p at 1920x1080 = 2.1 million pixels is 1.2 million pixels, over twice as many in 1080p than in 720p. The power required to produce 1080 over 720 is substantial, and there is a substantial power difference in the console's GPU. Look how the xb0ne GPU, 7770 performs at 1080p in in comparison to the 7850/7870 of the ps4.. The 7770 simply can not hit 1080p60fps in most modern games. Not even last gen games. Lol @ goons that think it will be able to hit 1080p going forward. The assets will improve but it's a 720p box for life. The power just is not there.

Well I like to use my eyes and the fact that I have to stare at bullshots to notice a fraction of a difference in some folliage tells me that actually the difference is marginal at best. Its all relative and largely dependant on the size of your television and your distance from it.

#22 Posted by Couth_ (9679 posts) -

@Couth_ said:

@always_explicit said:

It wont take long, we saw last gen that multiplats were comparable in quality with only subtle differences. First party devs will continue to bring the goods because its always been that way.

Despite topic after topic on this and umpteen painfully dull tormentos posts the differences are not as black and white as forum dwellers will have you believe.

No. It really is. The difference between 720p at 1280x720= .9million pixels and 1080p at 1920x1080 = 2.1 million pixels is 1.2 million pixels, over twice as many in 1080p than in 720p. The power required to produce 1080 over 720 is substantial, and there is a substantial power difference in the console's GPU. Look how the xb0ne GPU, 7770 performs at 1080p in in comparison to the 7850/7870 of the ps4.. The 7770 simply can not hit 1080p60fps in most modern games. Not even last gen games. Lol @ goons that think it will be able to hit 1080p going forward. The assets will improve but it's a 720p box for life. The power just is not there.

Well I like to use my eyes and the fact that I have to stare at bullshots to notice a fraction of a difference in some folliage tells me that actually the difference is marginal at best. Its all relative and largely dependant on the size of your television and your distance from it.

You aren't going to get the difference from bullshots your youtube videos. You aren't going to notice a difference if you only have an xbone because you can't see both.. The fact is there is a massive difference between 1080 and 720. There is no downplaying that. And the xbox is shit for having a two year old entry level GPU that never could hit 1080p/60

Go ahead just sit farther from the TV lol

#23 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (11040 posts) -

lol

#25 Posted by Netherscourge (16271 posts) -

Microsoft should have just dropped the XB1 price to $350; that would have ended A LOT of the debate around here and would have put the pressure back on Sony to deliver better-than-XB1 games.

Charging $500 for the XB1 is insulting. It puts the XB1 in the position of having to prove that it's worth more than the PS4 all the time. It never will be, based on the raw hardware specs, and this is going to hurt the XB1 for ALL of Next-Gen. Whenever MS announces a price-cut, the PS4 will respond and the XB1 will never be able to catch-up.

#26 Posted by Martin_G_N (1652 posts) -

@Couth_ said:

@always_explicit said:

It wont take long, we saw last gen that multiplats were comparable in quality with only subtle differences. First party devs will continue to bring the goods because its always been that way.

Despite topic after topic on this and umpteen painfully dull tormentos posts the differences are not as black and white as forum dwellers will have you believe.

No. It really is. The difference between 720p at 1280x720= .9million pixels and 1080p at 1920x1080 = 2.1 million pixels is 1.2 million pixels, over twice as many in 1080p than in 720p. The power required to produce 1080 over 720 is substantial, and there is a substantial power difference in the console's GPU. Look how the xb0ne GPU, 7770 performs at 1080p in in comparison to the 7850/7870 of the ps4.. The 7770 simply can not hit 1080p60fps in most modern games. Not even last gen games. Lol @ goons that think it will be able to hit 1080p going forward. The assets will improve but it's a 720p box for life. The power just is not there.

Well I like to use my eyes and the fact that I have to stare at bullshots to notice a fraction of a difference in some folliage tells me that actually the difference is marginal at best. Its all relative and largely dependant on the size of your television and your distance from it.

The difference is bigger this time around, compared to last gen. What do you think will happen later in the gen when game developers push the PS4 hardware even more, utilizing the extra compute power it has. We will see games later in the gen on the PS4 running closer to 720p to keep up the performance, while the X1 won't even be able to run those games.

#27 Posted by always_explicit (2134 posts) -

@Couth_ said:

@always_explicit said:

@Couth_ said:

@always_explicit said:

It wont take long, we saw last gen that multiplats were comparable in quality with only subtle differences. First party devs will continue to bring the goods because its always been that way.

Despite topic after topic on this and umpteen painfully dull tormentos posts the differences are not as black and white as forum dwellers will have you believe.

No. It really is. The difference between 720p at 1280x720= .9million pixels and 1080p at 1920x1080 = 2.1 million pixels is 1.2 million pixels, over twice as many in 1080p than in 720p. The power required to produce 1080 over 720 is substantial, and there is a substantial power difference in the console's GPU. Look how the xb0ne GPU, 7770 performs at 1080p in in comparison to the 7850/7870 of the ps4.. The 7770 simply can not hit 1080p60fps in most modern games. Not even last gen games. Lol @ goons that think it will be able to hit 1080p going forward. The assets will improve but it's a 720p box for life. The power just is not there.

Well I like to use my eyes and the fact that I have to stare at bullshots to notice a fraction of a difference in some folliage tells me that actually the difference is marginal at best. Its all relative and largely dependant on the size of your television and your distance from it.

You aren't going to get the difference from bullshots your youtube videos. You aren't going to notice a difference if you only have an xbone because you can't see both.. The fact is there is a massive difference between 1080 and 720. There is no downplaying that. And the xbox is shit for having a two year old entry level GPU that never could hit 1080p/60

Go ahead just sit farther from the TV lol

I really dont care about resolutions bud, I play games to play games. The Xbox offers more features that I will use than the PS4 and so far many more games I want to play. I dont like PC gaming for anything other than total war and dont like the Wii U.

The PS4 is a nice spec upgrade but next gen she aint.

Its another generation of bullshot comparisons. Snore.

#28 Edited by kingoflife9 (1987 posts) -

Cable Box 720p strikes again.

#29 Edited by superclocked (5676 posts) -

Microsoft should have just dropped the XB1 price to $350; that would have ended A LOT of the debate around here and would have put the pressure back on Sony to deliver better-than-XB1 games.

Charging $500 for the XB1 is insulting. It puts the XB1 in the position of having to prove that it's worth more than the PS4 all the time. It never will be, based on the raw hardware specs, and this is going to hurt the XB1 for ALL of Next-Gen. Whenever MS announces a price-cut, the PS4 will respond and the XB1 will never be able to catch-up.

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. MS assumes that people are stupid enough to buy it at $500, and I hope for everyone's sake that they're wrong...

#30 Posted by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

Seems the Sony product commands a solid graphics lead over the Xbox One.

Well done.

#31 Posted by PAL360 (26311 posts) -

Jesus, nearly everything on the ps4 is 1920x1080 except for bf4.

I had no idea the gap was that big.

I think the order is also rendering at 1920x1080, but scaled to 800 for whatever reason, oh yeah a cinematic widescreen experience.

Indeed. It's impressive how every PS4 game except BF4 and The Order run at 1080p. I believe that the order res (1920x800) is a design choice. A very stupid one, if you ask me :/

#32 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (11040 posts) -

@PAL360 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Jesus, nearly everything on the ps4 is 1920x1080 except for bf4.

I had no idea the gap was that big.

I think the order is also rendering at 1920x1080, but scaled to 800 for whatever reason, oh yeah a cinematic widescreen experience.

Indeed. It's impressive how every PS4 game except BF4 and The Order run at 1080p. I believe that the order res (1920x800) is a design choice. A very stupid one, if you ask me :/

Agreed, it makes no damn sense.

#33 Posted by shawn30 (3696 posts) -

Anyone else sick and tired of all this "Xb1 only 720p & PS4 is 1080p" crap?!?! Just buy one and enjoy it for goodness sake.

yep

#34 Posted by TheTruthIsREAL (622 posts) -

@Snugenz: You think the Xbone can run resogun at 1080p 60fps? That is like the only game that is using the gpgpu compute. Xbone cannot easily run that, if at all

#35 Posted by PAL360 (26311 posts) -
#36 Edited by RossRichard (2228 posts) -

What you are seeing here is DDR3 vs GDDR5. There is a reason why the cheap GPUs on PC use DDR3, and the high-end GPUs use GDDR5.

As far as the ESRAM, I am hearing rumors that developers aren't even using it cause its a PITA.

#37 Edited by Mozelleple112 (6527 posts) -

I wonder if the PS4 - XBO gap will be the largest in gaming history? I mean, has the dominant console of any generation ever had such a huge graphical leap? 1080p is TWICE the resolution of 720p, and who knows maybe the XBO uses less Dx11 (esque) effects than PS4? Perhaps less AA? As far as I'm concerned all 4 consoles of the 5th gen were 480p, and PS3 and 360 were both 720p.

#38 Posted by Couth_ (9679 posts) -

@Couth_ said:

@always_explicit said:

@Couth_ said:

@always_explicit said:

It wont take long, we saw last gen that multiplats were comparable in quality with only subtle differences. First party devs will continue to bring the goods because its always been that way.

Despite topic after topic on this and umpteen painfully dull tormentos posts the differences are not as black and white as forum dwellers will have you believe.

No. It really is. The difference between 720p at 1280x720= .9million pixels and 1080p at 1920x1080 = 2.1 million pixels is 1.2 million pixels, over twice as many in 1080p than in 720p. The power required to produce 1080 over 720 is substantial, and there is a substantial power difference in the console's GPU. Look how the xb0ne GPU, 7770 performs at 1080p in in comparison to the 7850/7870 of the ps4.. The 7770 simply can not hit 1080p60fps in most modern games. Not even last gen games. Lol @ goons that think it will be able to hit 1080p going forward. The assets will improve but it's a 720p box for life. The power just is not there.

Well I like to use my eyes and the fact that I have to stare at bullshots to notice a fraction of a difference in some folliage tells me that actually the difference is marginal at best. Its all relative and largely dependant on the size of your television and your distance from it.

You aren't going to get the difference from bullshots your youtube videos. You aren't going to notice a difference if you only have an xbone because you can't see both.. The fact is there is a massive difference between 1080 and 720. There is no downplaying that. And the xbox is shit for having a two year old entry level GPU that never could hit 1080p/60

Go ahead just sit farther from the TV lol

I really dont care about resolutions bud, I play games to play games. The Xbox offers more features that I will use than the PS4 and so far many more games I want to play. I dont like PC gaming for anything other than total war and dont like the Wii U.

The PS4 is a nice spec upgrade but next gen she aint.

Its another generation of bullshot comparisons. Snore.

Yet here you are undermining the difference in the GPU and resolution... If you don't care about the res, why are you in here talking about it and implying the xbox will catch up as "we saw last gen". Not gonna happen bud

#39 Posted by tdkmillsy (977 posts) -

Launch date - March 2014 games

PS4 18 retail, 34 Indie games

Xbox One 21 retail, 6 indie games, plus 10,000+ games once Windows 8 app store is on Xbox One

If you going to make a list at least make one full and proper, otherwise it just looks like a troll post.

#40 Posted by superclocked (5676 posts) -

What you are seeing here is DDR3 vs GDDR5. There is a reason why the cheap GPUs on PC use DDR3, and the high-end GPUs use GDDR5.

As far as the ESRAM, I am hearing rumors that developers aren't even using it cause its a PITA.

Plus, the GPU is far weaker, and 10% of the GPU's power is reserved for the OS and Kinect. Considering the high price tag, the XBox One should be far more powerful than it is...

#41 Edited by PAL360 (26311 posts) -

@tdkmillsy said:

Launch date - March 2014 games

PS4 18 retail, 34 Indie games

Xbox One 21 retail, 6 indie games, plus 10,000+ games once Windows 8 app store is on Xbox One

If you going to make a list at least make one full and proper, otherwise it just looks like a troll post.

This isn't a list of PS4 and X1 games. This is a list of games with confirmed or rumored performance info.

#42 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (11040 posts) -

The xbone needs to be reduced to $200 right now.

right the fvck now, there's no excuse for the over inflated value, no excuse at all.

#43 Posted by 2mrw (4950 posts) -

The resolution of the Order 1886 was revealed .... when was that?

Great Job Sony .... but I would be a hypocrite if I pass a judgment on Xbone now Because I defended the PS3 hidden power for so long, wouldn't I?

Still things are looking bad for the Xbone.

#44 Posted by InfinityDream (2 posts) -

It's good to see that a lot of games this generation will be 60fps. Framerate is much more important to gameplay than 720p+ resolution differences.

#45 Posted by Dreams-Visions (26569 posts) -

#46 Posted by cainetao11 (14377 posts) -

I don't care. Im going to play and have fun with games, even if my hdtv breaks and I have to play them on a standard def, black and white tv.

#47 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (11040 posts) -

oh jees, lol.

These gifs just get better and better, this is getting close to xbone reveal levels.

#48 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2209 posts) -

@always_explicit:

Its pretty apparent, ps4 off the bat running at a higher resolution due to being stronger and it being a easier architecture to develop for over the Xbox One, of course over time developers will squeeze more out the xbox one and probably have more 1080p titles but same thing with PlayStation 4, ps4 will always have a edge this generation

#49 Edited by tormentos (15287 posts) -

AC4 was confirmed to be 1080p 60FPS on xbox one.?

#50 Edited by blackace (18466 posts) -