New Xbox One Update Boosts Console GPU Power

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#1 Edited by vickissv2 (1857 posts) -

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-xbox-one-update-boosts-console-gpu-power/1100-6420097/

"Microsoft is looking to close the performance gap between the Xbox One and Sony's more powerful PlayStation 4, and is now giving developers access to more GPU bandwidth with the console's latest software development kit.

"June #XboxOne software dev kit gives devs access to more GPU bandwidth. More performance, new tools and flexibility to make games better," said Xbox Xboss Phil Spencer on Twitter. Microsoft had previously made rumblings that it was looking to make this the case as soon as possible."

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#2 Posted by chikenfriedrice (13561 posts) -

I was about to post this

And the doubters doubted

Cows are shaking in their hooves.

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#3 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (12477 posts) -

854p has never been so close...

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#4 Posted by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -

how many tera flops did it add? 10 or 20?

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#5 Posted by Blabadon (32740 posts) -

If true, that would be a fantastic PR campaign.

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#6 Posted by vickissv2 (1857 posts) -

This needs to be talked about explicitly by Microsoft at E3.

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#7 Posted by AutoPilotOn (8655 posts) -

Since there are kinect free bundles now they can gain what 10% didn't they say of resources that were allotted to it.

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#8 Posted by silversix_ (24305 posts) -

They're boosting an HD7770 LOLOL good luck bros

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#9 Edited by misterpmedia (6130 posts) -

How many articles do they really need to make about that 10% kinect reserve being given back. lol Didn't they already give some back? How much is honestly left? Baha.

edit: lel they've already given back 8% so that's what....2% left?

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#10 Posted by NFJSupreme (6301 posts) -

By how much though? Also all the software updates in the world won't close the hardware gap completely. That will always exist.

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#11 Edited by Shewgenja (16556 posts) -

With the power of Microsoft, pack mules will attain warp speed. Set your phasers to 'Awesome', kids, this thread is gonna be fun!

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#13 Posted by gago-gago (11538 posts) -

The XO gets more powerful every time, the PS4 and Wii U not so much.

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#14 Edited by vickissv2 (1857 posts) -
@FastRobby said:

@misterpmedia said:

How many articles do they really need to make about that 10% kinect reserve being given back. lol Didn't they already give some back? How much is honestly left? Baha.

edit: lel they've already given back 8% so that's what....2% left?

I don't think this has anything todo with kinect. Kinect is CPU, not GPU...

Did you even read the article? Kinect IS (was) GPU, and this is kinect related.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-microsoft-to-unlock-more-gpu-power-for-xbox-one-developers

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#15 Posted by scatteh316 (5715 posts) -

What's Phil Spencer become...

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#17 Edited by hoosier7 (4166 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:

how many tera flops did it add? 10 or 20?

None, it's given back some more bandwidth to devs apparently.

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#18 Edited by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -
@FastRobby said:

@vickissv2 said:
@FastRobby said:

@misterpmedia said:

How many articles do they really need to make about that 10% kinect reserve being given back. lol Didn't they already give some back? How much is honestly left? Baha.

edit: lel they've already given back 8% so that's what....2% left?

I don't think this has anything todo with kinect. Kinect is CPU, not GPU...

Did you even read the article? Kinect IS (was) GPU, and this is kinect related.

Didn't read it because I'm pretty sure Kinect is only CPU. I really don't think it communicates with the GPU, or that the GPU processes anything from the kinect

why do you think that? upon what evidence did you reach that conclusion?

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#20 Posted by vickissv2 (1857 posts) -

@FastRobby said:

@vickissv2 said:
@FastRobby said:

@misterpmedia said:

How many articles do they really need to make about that 10% kinect reserve being given back. lol Didn't they already give some back? How much is honestly left? Baha.

edit: lel they've already given back 8% so that's what....2% left?

I don't think this has anything todo with kinect. Kinect is CPU, not GPU...

Did you even read the article? Kinect IS (was) GPU, and this is kinect related.

Didn't read it because I'm pretty sure Kinect is only CPU. I really don't think it communicates with the GPU, or that the GPU processes anything from the kinect

lmao so you're admitting to commenting without checking out facts? it's not based on what you think.

"Xbox One has a conservative 10 per cent time-sliced reservation on the GPU for system processing. This is used both for the GPGPU processing for Kinect and for the rendering of concurrent system content such as snap mode," Microsoft technical fellow Andrew Goossen told us."

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#21 Posted by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -
@hoosier7 said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

how many tera flops did it add? 10 or 20?

None, it's given back some more bandwidth to devs apparently.

omg that's lulzy

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#22 Edited by Shewgenja (16556 posts) -

Wake me up when Microsofts next-gen console can run a Call of Duty in 1080p lel

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#23 Posted by AutoPilotOn (8655 posts) -

@FastRobby: the gpu is used 10% by kinect. 8% for video 2% for voice.

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#24 Edited by Heil68 (56628 posts) -

Well PS4 is still the world's most powerful video game console to have ever been created in the history of video games.

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#26 Posted by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -

@FastRobby: good on you soldier. good on you.

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#27 Edited by StormyJoe (7463 posts) -

@Salt_The_Fries said:

854p has never been so close...

LOL! While I support both, this was funny.

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#28 Posted by santoron (8582 posts) -

@Salt_The_Fries said:

854p has never been so close...

Post of the day. Made me lol for real.

Srsly, more good work by Spencer and the gang trying to make the best out of Mattrick's mess. They can't magically make the hardware equal, but steps like this are going to at least improve the situation.

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#30 Posted by littlestreakier (2950 posts) -

@gago-gago: good, I'd like a reason to sit a XB1 next to my PS4, but as it stands now there's no reason for me to do that.

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#31 Edited by musicalmac (24702 posts) -

If this is as cut and dry as MS makes it seem, what purpose did it serve to throttle the GPU?

EDIT: Kinect -- so says the article. What a mess.

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#32 Edited by Heil68 (56628 posts) -

@musicalmac said:

If this is as cut and dry as MS makes it seem, what purpose did it serve to throttle the GPU?

EDIT: Kinect -- so says the article. What a mess.

Kinect(lol) the joke of the industry..lulz

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#33 Edited by Speak_Low (2248 posts) -

@chikenfriedrice said:

I was about to post this

And the doubters doubted

Cows are shaking in their hooves.

That's actually a funny line. LOL

Btw I like this Spencer guy. He's getting so much more done ever since he took over. This guy is the real deal

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#34 Posted by lglz1337 (4798 posts) -

792.9p is almost here people!

plz be excited!

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#36 Edited by DEadliNE-Zero0 (6444 posts) -

@vickissv2 said:

@FastRobby said:

@vickissv2 said:
@FastRobby said:

@misterpmedia said:

How many articles do they really need to make about that 10% kinect reserve being given back. lol Didn't they already give some back? How much is honestly left? Baha.

edit: lel they've already given back 8% so that's what....2% left?

I don't think this has anything todo with kinect. Kinect is CPU, not GPU...

Did you even read the article? Kinect IS (was) GPU, and this is kinect related.

Didn't read it because I'm pretty sure Kinect is only CPU. I really don't think it communicates with the GPU, or that the GPU processes anything from the kinect

lmao so you're admitting to commenting without checking out facts? it's not based on what you think.

"Xbox One has a conservative 10 per cent time-sliced reservation on the GPU for system processing. This is used both for the GPGPU processing for Kinect and for the rendering of concurrent system content such as snap mode," Microsoft technical fellow Andrew Goossen told us."

Interesting. I want to see how much power they get out of that GPU then. From what i remember, it is still weaker than the PS4's, but i wonder if they match it close.

@Heil68 said:

Well PS4 is still the world's most powerful video game console to have ever been created in the history of video games.

Funny thing is, nowadays, that's not saying much.

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#37 Edited by sneslover (952 posts) -

Even then, you're looking at a Radeon R7 260 (not the X version, regular 260 has exactly the same number of shaders)underclocked at 853mhz (versus the PC's 1000mhz +), and then devs have to effectively use the ESRAM to get around bandwidth limitations.

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#38 Posted by darkangel115 (4055 posts) -

@littlestreakier said:

@gago-gago: good, I'd like a reason to sit a XB1 next to my PS4, but as it stands now there's no reason for me to do that.

IDK i have both and I'm glad I do.

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#39 Posted by Heil68 (56628 posts) -

@deadline-zero0:

Some people feel stating the truth is just that. I just post facts, so don't be alarmed.

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#40 Posted by Alcapello (1396 posts) -

Doesn't matter, there's no point in owning an xbox 1 anymore, Project Beast is a PS4 exclusive so it's over for microsoft basically.

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#41 Posted by chikenfriedrice (13561 posts) -

@speak_low said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

I was about to post this

And the doubters doubted

Cows are shaking in their hooves.

That's actually a funny line. LOL

Btw I like this Spencer guy. He's getting so much more done ever since he took over. This guy is the real deal

Me too....I am hyped for E3

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#42 Edited by deniiiii21 (1261 posts) -

GPU is the last thing a company should ever cheap on, graphics and hype sell these days. They know they fucked up with their 7770 and their DDR3 set up, so they overclocked the box just to catch up a little, and now they are trying to eek out some resources from Kinect. Microsoft one of the richest companies in the world, put a damn GPU in the next console and quit cutting corner. 750 shaders against 1150 game over.

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#43 Edited by donalbane (16383 posts) -

I see a lot of PS4 enthusiasts talking trash about this like the PS4 is some kind of super computer by comparison. It's absurd. And another thing, if the PS4 had this announcement, you'd crap your skinny jeans.

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#44 Posted by vickissv2 (1857 posts) -

@FastRobby said:

@AutoPilotOn said:

@FastRobby: the gpu is used 10% by kinect. 8% for video 2% for voice.

Just read up, since people told me I'm wrong. It is indeed being done by the GPU. But honestly I still think this extra bandwith has nothing to do with Kinectless Xbox. So people with Kinect plugged in will have worse graphics compared to the people that don't have a Kinect plugged in? That seems an annoying workaround for the developers

I think it's pretty obvious that kinect features can be disabled without having to actually physically touch the kinect If anything it gives the developers exactly what they want. Slightly more room to work with

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#45 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

They can only go so far with updates, I guess closing the gap a little is nice

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#46 Edited by Speak_Low (2248 posts) -

@donalbane said:

I see a lot of PS4 enthusiasts talking trash about this like the PS4 is some kind of super computer by comparison. It's absurd. And another thing, if the PS4 had this announcement, you'd crap your skinny jeans.

You guys are killing it with the funny lines today. I'm partial Cow and even I think that's funny. lmao

And thank goodness Don Mattress is no longer head of Xbox One's future. If he stayed on and stubbornly stuck to his ways (much like Iwata) the Xbox One would be hurting a lot more

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#48 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@FastRobby said:

@vickissv2 said:

@FastRobby said:

@AutoPilotOn said:

@FastRobby: the gpu is used 10% by kinect. 8% for video 2% for voice.

Just read up, since people told me I'm wrong. It is indeed being done by the GPU. But honestly I still think this extra bandwith has nothing to do with Kinectless Xbox. So people with Kinect plugged in will have worse graphics compared to the people that don't have a Kinect plugged in? That seems an annoying workaround for the developers

I think it's pretty obvious that kinect features can be disabled without having to actually physically touch the kinect If anything it gives the developers exactly what they want. Slightly more room to work with

So you are saying I can't say: Xbox Go Home, or Xbox Snapp Brazil Now anymore during games? They can't do that, that would be ridiculous

well they can do that, but idk why

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#49 Posted by vickissv2 (1857 posts) -

@FastRobby said:

@vickissv2 said:

@FastRobby said:

@AutoPilotOn said:

@FastRobby: the gpu is used 10% by kinect. 8% for video 2% for voice.

Just read up, since people told me I'm wrong. It is indeed being done by the GPU. But honestly I still think this extra bandwith has nothing to do with Kinectless Xbox. So people with Kinect plugged in will have worse graphics compared to the people that don't have a Kinect plugged in? That seems an annoying workaround for the developers

I think it's pretty obvious that kinect features can be disabled without having to actually physically touch the kinect If anything it gives the developers exactly what they want. Slightly more room to work with

So you are saying I can't say: Xbox Go Home, or Xbox Snapp Brazil Now anymore during games? They can't do that, that would be ridiculous

lmao I highly doubt that. But even if it was like that , it's worth the 1080p.

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#50 Posted by SonySoldier-_- (1186 posts) -

This has already been talked about millions of times. If they removed Kinect they could unlock the Hidden 10% Super Secret Sauce Power blah blah blah. So the $399 kinectless Xbone could be more powerful than the $499 Xbone with Kinect?